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East Notes: O’s/Cobb, Mets, Nats, Jays, Rays

By Jeff Todd | November 17, 2017 at 11:19pm CDT

The Orioles seem to be casting a wide net in their hunt for starting pitching, as they have been cited as having interest in quite a few arms already. While the organization has become known for doing a good portion of its business later in the offseason, perhaps it’ll be more aggressive on some pitchers this time around. In any event, the latest name connected to the O’s is righty Alex Cobb, with Jon Morosi of MLB Network tweeting that the team has interest in a hurler who long tormented them in the division. Cobb won’t come cheap, but could be an option if Baltimore decides it’s able to add a more significant contract. The primary goal, though, will be to ensure there’s enough depth on hand in the rotation.

More from the eastern divisions:

  • The Mets are the current poster child for the concept that you can never have enough pitching depth. Even on the heels of a tough season in which the club’s vaunted rotation collapsed, though, GM Sandy Alderson says he’ll consider dealing arms, as Mike Puma of the New York Post reports. While there’s still a need to “be careful” not to thin the staff out too far, Alderson is obviously also looking for ways to improve with a limited amount of payroll flexibility. Odds are that the team’s most prominent pitchers won’t be dangled, but Puma suggests Robert Gsellman, Seth Lugo, or Rafael Montero might conceivably be discussed.
  • While there’s nothing the Nationals can do to get out from under their 2018 commitment to Matt Wieters, the team will look for ways to improve behind the plate. Jorge Castillo of the Washington Post writes that the plan is to reduce the veteran’s role. Of course, that would mean relying more heavily on another player, and the team’s top internal alternatives (Pedro Severino and Raudy Read) are hardly sure things. An external acquisition will surely at least be considered; I ran through some other possibilities after the Nats were bounced from the postseason.
  • The Blue Jays are aiming for depth in their pitching staff, Ben Nicholson-Smith of Sportsnet.ca writes. Lefty Robbie Ross is among the arms they are interested in, he reports. Certainly, Toronto has had a chance to see Ross up close over the past several years, which he has spent with the Red Sox. He was limited by injury in 2017 but turned in 55 1/3 innings of 3.25 ERA pitching in the prior campaign. Toronto isn’t limiting itself to lefty relievers, though; Nicholson-Smith says the club is looking at basically every type of hurler out there.
  • Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times has the latest on the Rays’ efforts to land a new ballpark. Owner Stuart Sternberg expressed optimism about a prospective site in Hillsborough County, but there are plenty of challenges still to be dealt with. Among them: the club “might only cover $150 million of the projected $800 million cost,” Topkin writes. Those interested in learning more about where things stand will want to give the link a full read.
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  1. simschifan

    8 years ago

    Give it up Cobb is going to the Cubs Ohtani to the Yankees and Stanton to the Cardinals. Lets get this started already I’m getting bored waiting around for the moves.

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    • CubsRebsSaints

      8 years ago

      Cubs may as well sign Cobb now. Quit playing around. He wants to be there. They want him. They’ve been wanting him.

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    • WhiteSox4ever

      8 years ago

      Reunion with Madden. Absoulutley

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      • simschifan

        8 years ago

        I hope someone gets signed soon. I’m hoping Cobb and a few bullpen arms. At the very least. If Cards happen to get Stanton it’s gonna be a tight race.

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    • Voidhelix

      8 years ago

      Cobb has an average IP of around 110 per year, isn’t that far from TJ surgery, and has a FIP that screams ENVIRONMENT. I would’ve taken the QO if I were him, just to prove he can throw 170 IP back to back seasons. Possibly Cobb wants to choose an environment he can win in though?

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  2. Jerry Handy

    8 years ago

    Orioles are just talking as always have eyes on pitchers and get nothing

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  3. dwilson10

    8 years ago

    The O’s need to jump on Cobb, even though he has a QO attached to him. They would lose their 2nd round pick but they already have the #11 and #33 picks so it wouldn’t really hurt the team.

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    • bravesfan88

      8 years ago

      It may only be a second rounder, but they would also lose the slot money tied to that pick as well. With that slot money, it could significantly help them land an over slot player or two. Which, for the Orioles, is more important than for most other teams..

      Now, obviously, I say that because the Orioles do not even consider the international market, so it makes their draft THAT much more vital towards building their farm system…And Baltimore pretty desperately needs to add to their farm system…

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      • dimitriinla

        8 years ago

        A team can always add to their system, sure, but the O’s system on the whole is looking pretty good.

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      • Jbigz12

        8 years ago

        O’s farm system is now middle of the pack. We don’t add players in international free agency so the draft is a little more important to us than some other middle of the road farm systems. But that would have to be irrelevant if we can add a pitcher who can stabilize the rotation. We definitely aren’t hurting as bad as we used to in the prospect area.

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    • dwhitt3

      8 years ago

      It’s their “second pick” so if they pick 11 and 33, they’ll lose pick 33

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      • dwilson10

        8 years ago

        No they lose their 2nd round pick. Pick #33 is a pick at the end of round 1 not their 2nd round pick.

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  4. antibelt

    8 years ago

    Stanton to Giants is obvious. They can afford to go over luxury tax (especially to keep their fans happy and at the park). Cards have an overloaded outfield already, and will be trading surplus to improve in other areas.

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    • Paul_25

      8 years ago

      Maybe they can trade belt this off season and promote Chris Shaw to first base. We can flip belt for prospects to flip to Miami and send them some of our prospects to get Stanton.

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    • bravesfan88

      8 years ago

      But, I thought I read the Giants are trying to shed some payroll first…before they even consider making any significant additions??

      Or has that plan already changed??…

      And, I’m not trying to be a smart-ass or anything, I’m genuinely curious what the Giants are planning to do this off-season.
      It’ll really be interesting to see what kind of moves they make to get back to being a top, contending team..

      Baseball is always better whenever the Giants are competitive..It makes their NL West rivalry with the Dodgers much more fun to watch…It is truly one of the few remaining, big rivalries left in baseball, and one of the best, alongside the Red Sox and the Yankees..

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      • thegreatcerealfamine

        8 years ago

        The Giants need to worry about the other two teams they’re looking up at…Rockies-Diamondbacks. They also need to worry about the Padres nipping at their heels other then ever competing with the Dodgers…

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  5. mlb fan

    8 years ago

    every year it’s the same old story with the Baltimore Orioles, we are seeking a couple of veteran starting pitchers…..

    and then they settle for a couple of retread, low end starting pitchers to continue on into mediocrity……

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    • bravesfan88

      8 years ago

      I mean, you can’t blame them too much for trying to wait out the market a little, as to not immediately overpay for someone…BUT, they end up waiting too long, and they end up overpaying for someone who never ends up giving them any type of return…

      I think the Orioles end up waiting a little while longer, but eventually I think they will end up signing Lynn…They will most likely end up overpaying him a little, but if that is what it takes to land a quality pitcher, then you gotta do what you gotta do…At least you already know what you’re getting with Lynn, and that’s a pretty solid, reliable guy..

      He’s a pretty sizeable improvement over the vast majority of starters they have had recently..

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      • mlb fan

        8 years ago

        you are right….the Orioles have had some recent success in waiting out the market and getting players at a better price(Trumbo et al….), but I am just a little frustrated that they never seem to go for it when they have a winning window……

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    • lucienbel

      8 years ago

      I’m not an O’s fan but it’s really tough to watch what they do with free agent pitching. They often save on “rebound” candidates who never seem to rebound. They could just go and spend the money on one mediocore starter and come out of it a lot better IMO. They’ve had some decent chances lately that have largely been hindered by rebound pitchers who never rebounded.

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      • gomerhodge71

        8 years ago

        A lot of people blame O’s ownership, but let’s not forget Duquette, when he was in Boston, signed pitchers like Ramon Martinez, Pete Schourek, Bret Saberhagen, Frank Castillo and Steve Ontiveros. Sign a handful, throw ’em at the wall and see if any of them stick.

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        • mlb fan

          8 years ago

          @gomerhodge……the Orioles never really strike me that they are that interested in building a winning team and are much more interested in being profitable…….

          They have no real farm and every year find themselves in the uneviable position of throwing money at major league average, at best, starting pitchers…..

          And the Orioles obviously think that almost ANYONE can play corner outfield, whether they can actually catch the ball or not….

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  6. CubsRebsSaints

    8 years ago

    Cubs need to go on and sign Cobb and quit playing. They both like one another.

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    • dlevin111

      8 years ago

      Cobb would be reunited with Hickey and Maddon. Sounds like a no brained.

      Reply
  7. LarsLap

    8 years ago

    While I hate to give up on a metropolitan area, I’m tired of hearing about Tampa’s need for a new facility. A new stadium isn’t going to fix the inherent problems facing long term success in the bay area. MLB needs to own up leaving the area is in the best for the franchise and MLB.

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    • mlb fan

      8 years ago

      Florida is a tough sports market, period……even in the NFL the Florida teams have rarely drawn well…..

      The year after making a World series appearance against the Phillies(2009) the Rays still only averaged about 19,000 fans per gm……

      I am not really sure what exactly the problem is in Tampa, outside of them obviously needing a new stadium, and I do tend to agree with you that MLB should let them open up their search, and options, to include places not in florida(Montreal?)…..

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      • slider32

        8 years ago

        Tampa needs to relocate to Charlotte or Raleigh!

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        • realgone2

          8 years ago

          They would do even worse there,

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        • mikeyank55

          8 years ago

          Or how about a novel idea, Tampa?

          They play in the worst stadium in baseball that’s downright depressing. Worst of all they are playing on the wrong side of the causeway, which if you’ve ever been stuck in traffic is unpleasant.

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        • mlb fan

          8 years ago

          @mikeyank55…..you hit the nail right on the head when you said the Tampa stadium is “depressing”. I do not watch Tampa that often, since I am more the west Coast MLB guy, but when I do it seems ridiculous that you need rules for balls that hit girders and platforms up above…..

          .it seems everytime I watch a Tampa Bay MLB game, the ball goes UP but does NOT always come DOWN….

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    • stevetampa

      8 years ago

      The current location of Rays stadium cannot support a consistent 20k per game attendance. It’s location is in the not so populated down St Pete area which is on a peninsula and removed from the more populated areas of St Pete. Relocating the stadium across Tampa Bay and into Tampa is a logical move which will absolutely lead to increased attendance. If they can’t move the stadium, I would agree that Tampa Bay eventually loses its franchise.

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      • reflect

        8 years ago

        This. The current stadium is in a terrible location which is why no one goes. It would be equivalent to a stadium out on Ellis island, New York, or Hawaii or something.

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        • mikeyank55

          8 years ago

          Or Flushing?

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    • fljay73

      8 years ago

      The Trop is basically located in South Pete a few miles off of I-275. Over half the season ticket holders live outside of Pinellas county (like me). The Rays need to definitely move closer to their season ticket holder base & allow fans from east of Lakeland to be able to go to a game. Ever try to go west on I-4 east of mile marker 55 after 400p?

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      • cosmic

        8 years ago

        The Rays won’t move to Tampa. The Lightning have devolped a first class area with surrounding draws in downtown and they have no desire to share with the Rays. Every other potential Tampa site has real problems. And that’s before you even aak for $650 million un free stuff.

        St. Pete will always be remembered as the city who built a bad baseball stadium/monster truck venue and then chained a team to it like a gimp in a basement that went on to have emberassing attendance and revenue numbers.

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    • thegreatcerealfamine

      8 years ago

      Same with the Marlins and the every 4-5 years of needing to shed salary with the stripping of players only to yell “small market rebuild”. Florida is inherently a spring training/vacation destination and can’t support one team let alone two. For another spring break area Arizona barely supports the Diamondbacks and in no way could support two. Vegas would and could support the Rays…

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  8. slider32

    8 years ago

    The Mets and O’s may have missed their window, everything this year will come down to the health of Syndergaard, de Grom, and Harvey. The rest of their pitching is sub par. They are not going to get alot for any of those other pitchers.

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    • mikeyank55

      8 years ago

      The Mets trade window will open after one big free agent signing. Wilpon’s have approved him inking his next door neighbors’ kid to a two year deal. The kids got a terrific arm and will throw T-shirt’s into the stands during the 7th inning.

      Then Sandy will deal Harvey to lower the payroll. It will be a salary dump for no real prospect (just like Sandy’s signature moves this summer when he traded Bruce, Granderson, et al for a few coupons to McDonalds).

      Oh and Harvey will regain his velocity and moxy playing anywhere else as he goes into winning the comeback player of the year award.

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  9. mike156

    8 years ago

    The problem with Tampa’s stadium issue is that, once again, the taxpayer is going to have to pony up for it, as ownership doesn’t have the scratch. Florida is a market you want to be in. But neither Florida team draws well. So, what’s the plan to solve attendance beyond spending other people’s money? That’s not just a political question–it’s an economic one.

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    • eilexx

      8 years ago

      No taxpayers should EVER be responsible to build a sports stadium for a professional team. And if taxpayers do foot the bill for any such stadium/arena, the team’s revenues generated in that ballpark—tickets, concessions, parking—should be split with those taxpayers in the exact percentage of the makeup of the ballpark financing, until every dollar—plus 25% (interest, to borrow the money)—is paid back in full.

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      • jimmertee

        8 years ago

        Well said Bob Mckowan. [Legendary sports radio guy in toronto shares the same views as you.]

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  10. chound

    8 years ago

    What I just read says to me that Alex Cobb is getting more than I ever imagined.

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    • greatgame 2

      8 years ago

      Wouldnt touch Cobb. Big Hellickson like regression coming.

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      • chound

        8 years ago

        I completely agree but there’s so much buzz around Cobb (I assume b/c so many thought he could be had on the cheaper side of SP deals). He’s going to make far to much for my team to make a run at him!

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  11. User 4245925809

    8 years ago

    I’m thinking Robbie Ross will be a steal pickup this winter. Decent middle reliever until injury last year and rand into roster crunch with boston this winter.

    Believe he’s a prime Duquette type grab and fits another hole they have well.

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  12. seaver41

    8 years ago

    Tampa is saddled with a cheap owner – he won’t pony up big money. He’s never reached deep to back the team when they have contended – fir crying out loud he’s a Mets fan to boot

    Reply
  13. DXC

    8 years ago

    Actually, the Mets are the current poster child for the concept that — you can never too low a payroll.

    Reply

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