The Red Sox are advising rival organizations that they’ll consider dealing away center fielder Jackie Bradley Jr., according to Bob Nightengale of USA Today (via Twitter). That stance, he notes, is tied to the team’s efforts to add a power bat — presumably, one that would occupy a corner outfield spot and bump Andrew Benintendi into center.
Several teams have been circling Bradley early in the offseason, though there had been no clear indication that Boston would offer him up. A move involving Bradley — whether or not directly tied to the acquisition of a new bat — has always seemed connected to any effort to add pop to the Boston outfield. Of course, there’s also room to add at first base, so there were and likely still are scenarios where Bradley stays right where he is.
Certainly, retaining the quality all-around performer would hardly be a poor option for the Red Sox. The 27-year-old took a step back at the plate last year, but still hit 17 home runs and landed within range of overall league-average production with the bat. Plus, he’s a highly regarded performer on the bases and in the field, so he graded out as a quality regular even despite falling well shy of his 2016 offensive output — a .267/.349/.486 breakout that leaves traces of a tantalizing ceiling.
For the Red Sox to part with Bradley, they’d surely need to be zeroing in on a major addition. And they’d likely also need to receive some real value in return. Bradley is still controllable for three more seasons via arbitration and is projected by MLBTR to earn a manageable $5.9MM for 2018. While his Super Two status gave him a high floor to build off of, he’s still a potential bargain given his track record of overall performance in recent seasons.
Bradley and 2 prospects to CHI for Abreu
Chicago doesn’t make sense for JBJ
Could possibly see it if the White Sox thought he could bounce back closer to his 16 numbers and have flip him at the deadline. But yeah, if their plan was to hold onto him, it wouldn’t really make sense.
Rebuilding teams don’t really have use for “lets see if he rebounds and we can flip him” type players as center pieces to deals.
If the Red Sox were to trade Groome, Chavis, Houck, and Mata along with JBJ it would make sense for the white sox to trade abreu in a package with JBJ included
Keep dreaming, buddy. Abreu ain’t THAT good.
And here comes the White With the ridiculous trade proposals cmon man that is just a silly trade proposal. Once again DD would laugh so hard and tell Hahn please never call him again that’s how bad the above trade proposal is. That’s almost as bad as Benny plus Abreu. I also think that Boston and the ChiSox don’t fit but this trade proposal is asinine.
I mean it all depends. If JBJ reaches his ceiling or even matches his 2016 breakout numbers the deal makes perfect sense. Given the money owed to Abreu over the next few years it would serve as a bit of a salary dump as well as give them an equally valuable trade asset if JBJ performs. And one would assume the Red Sox would have to send a prospect or 2 as well. So it would really be a salary dump for a valuable asset and some more pieces to stock the farm. Also Bradley is only 27. He is still plenty young to be part of the next generation of White Sox representing a veteran presence for the younger guys in 2-3 years if they hold on to him.
What it really comes down to is how you value Bradley. Is he an all-star? Or is he a solid roleplayer. If you believe 2016 is repeatable or improvable, this is a fair conversation. If you think he’s a defensive specialist and 2015 and 2017 are more in line with his standard output then yes this conversation makes no sense.
If teams were willing to empty the farm for Abreu he would be gone already. Sometimes you need to take the best offer and make sure you get something.
Seriously ? Get real !
I’m assuming the clown is trolling.
No balls to say what you think a fair abreu package is huh?
Typical bruin fans. All bark no bite.
Complain complain complain but no balls to submit your own trade proposals. Parents must be proud of their little coward.
Grow a pair and come back and post kid. Until then go change your tampon you’re clearly bleeding excessively with how bad my commeny triggered you.
Neither is groome. Groome is the most overhyped prospect this past year.
CHI doesn’t make sense for JBJ? He’s under team control for 3 more years which is line with the timeline for their top prospects…..CHI would definitely want JBJ in any deal involving Abreu.
Why would they? Chi has a glut if OF prospects that they are going to bring up. One year into the deal and the prospects will be ready.
Doesn’t make sense for the White Sox as Bradley only has one more season of control than Abreu. Not a very good fit trade wise for Chicago.
It will take a lot more than that to get Abreu for any team not just the Red Sox. He is worth a lot more to the White Sox than what his numbers show. They have a young team and he provides the veteran leadership. Not to mention he is a big reason why they got Robert and is basically the mentor to Moncada.
Bradley is arguably better than Abreu, has one more year of control and is much cheaper in arbitration. Maybe if the White Sox included Garcia that would make sense
Lmao. Zero chance. If anybody should include an extra player or 2 in a JBJ/Abreu swap, it’s the Red Sox
Face it. A guy with a Career .318 OBP and .407 Slugging percentage isn’t returning back TWO all star players.
As great as he is defensively, his bat is still below league average.
I think you need to check what a league average center fielder bats.
JBJ has above average tools in every area. Abreu can hit better sure, but JbJ is one of the best defenders in baseball and a really good base runner. JBj hits well for a centerfielder. Meanwhile Abreu won’t produce much more than Carlos Santana on the open market
“a really good base runner”…..he bats .245 and had 8 steals last year.
How is that really good base running?
Base running is about more than stealing bases
@Death and ERic
League average for CF last year was a 101 wRC+
JBJ had a 93 wRC+
One year is how my 3 year old likes her samples too, Mike. For gits and shiggles… how did it play out the previous years? 119 & 123. Steamer projection for 2018? 104 and a WAR of 3.2. How about Abreu? Steamer projects a 129 wRC+ with a WHOPPING WAR of 2.8. How is that possible?
It doesn’t matter what the centerfielder bats if you are the Giants. According to reports, they are interested.
Because FanGraohs values defense heavily. That’s why.
How bout we just do his career? It’s 97. Slightly below league average.
97 is league average, not below average. The point is, there is more to take into account than just their bat and their WAR proves this.
He has a different skill set.
I stopped reading when you said “arguably better than Abreu”….Yeah, I guess someone can argue anything illogical. Yes…Bradley would most definitely field center better than Abreau.
Bradley is not in the same discussion as Abreu
Bradley will be hard to move!
Lol no, that’s an overpay.
PSA for White Sox fans: JBJ is worth way way more than Abreu
Red Sox fans are off their meds again with the value of their players.
Well if you look at the forecasting models on Fangraphs Depth Charts and Steamer have JBJ both at higher WAR next year then Abreu. I don’t know what that is worth but there values are a lot closer in terms a pure value then White Sox fans seem to think.
White Sox can do better than Jackie Bradley in a trade…has nothing to do with WAR value. WAR also has to taken in consideration of team construct…teams are often getting plus WAR anyway defensively in CF…so subtract that from Bradley WAR. Im not arguing Bradley has no value….Im just arguing its not just math. Abreu has offensive WAR coming in key game situations…
Listen I’m not arguing that the White Sox should trade for JBJ I’m just telling you in a nutshell there values are roughly equal.
And all I’m saying is that WAR isn’t necessarily correct in assessing value in a team construct. I can think of other reasons a deal for Abreu doesn’t happen…but Jackie Bradley is not Jose Abreu in any sense outside of the fact that he plays a more primary defensive position. The White Sox could acquire Bradley’s defensive WAR equivalent and deal Abreu for a better package.
This would be a mistake. They should concentrate on first base.
Abreu is a first baseman
Keep bradley
Who Won’t get traded for JBJ unless the Red Sox offer someone else.
Yeah it’s a preemptive strike. I can see this leading to Martinez and Hosmer signings. they can’t sign JD right now as they’d have to dh him and I think they really want to add Hosmer tonset the table for a power bat. moving JBJ allows them to sign both and play Martinez in left and move Hanley to dh.
This would be a huge mistake. Panic move by DD if it happens. Ask the pitchers what they think of not having JBJ in CF.
I wish they could address the power shortage without breaking up this outfield. They cover so much ground.
Kinda makes me think signing Hosmer would work along with signing a power LHH to offset Hanley at DH.
They can. Sign JD Martinez to play DH and keep Hanley at 1st.
Or sign Jay Bruce to play DH. Or sign Carlos Gonzalez to play DH.
Signing Jay Brunce to DH would probably be the best choice since he won’t cost as much as JD Martinez
How many boxes of balls will it take?
damn JBJ is one of my favorite players on the team. i dont believe in subtracting from a strength to add to other areas.
That is how you add to other areas. In order to receive value, you must give up value. Likewise, in order for the desired power hitter to receive at bats, someone has to lose at bats.
Andrew Benintendi is not a good cf.
Betts looks like more of a CF than Benintendi. Not sure why not keep Bradley and look at Betts at 2B. I think injuries and age suggest Pedroia is almost done.
You don’t move the best right fielder in the game to second base.
You’re right–Jason Heyward doesn’t turn the DP all that well.
Betts is better, offensively and defensively.
Lmao, Heyward isn’t better than Mookie
Heyward is better Defensively, but Mookie obliviously is better overall. There is no question about that.
Keep telling yourself that! Heyward didn’t even start every post season game for the Cubs. That shows you how much he’s valued there! The most overated player in MLB .
Ah no you are wrong and it’s really not even close anymore. Betts is the far superior defender in right, in fact, I think he more defensive runs saved then any outfielder in baseball the question isn’t if he is the best right fielder defensively it’s if he is the best defensive outfielder in the game.
The only trade that would justify parting with JBJ is the one the Yankees just pulled off. There are no other bats available on the trade market that justify losing his defense and breaking up the Killer B’s.
As much as it would be a major dice roll, I think the best move DD can make is opening the wallet for Martinez and Hosmer. It solves the problems we have without pulling from a place of strength.
Bradley for Schwarber?
That would never happen.
No. Schwarber is a garbage one trick player. JBJ is a great all around player
How is an all glove player good all around?
Cubs want Benny, not JBJ.
The Cubs are not getting either for a 1 tool player with no position but DH and can’t hit LHP.
Cubs and their fans need to put the pipe down.
Cubs can dream
Not sure what they have to offer, but the Giants need to check in on this.
Nothing. They have nothing that they would be willing to offer that could bring back up JBJ in return.
This guy should have gotten better last year, not worse. No way i can think of to explain it (except injury?) The Red Sox know this and are willing to part with him. You have already pretty much seen his ceiling.
His name is so close to Jackie Robinson Jr’s that people equate him to potentially reaching that skill level…he will not.
When has Jackie Robinson ever come into conversation with JBJ besides when you just brought it up. That literally makes zero sense
You think people confuse him with Jackie Robinson because they have the same initials? That, is laughable, and rather short sided. Baseball is a game of adjustments, more than any other sport. He needs to learn to adapt and assistance finding the holes in his game the can be exploited.
They don’t even have the same initials, but I will agree it is laughable.
I don’t think baseball people confuse the two–but fans have a tendency to over hype him–you hear Jackie Bradley Jr and there’s a sort of subliminal exciting player factor that creeps in..
But at least i got a rise out of a a few people. Mission accomplished. 🙂
Red Sox people overhype him….who else does?
and i think you meant –short sighted?
Speaking of short sighted! Man you are dense!
What in the heck are you talking about? Man I see some posts with some implied racial overtones especially involving asian players…but this is a doozy. You’re saying people overrate Bradley because his name is Jackie??? My gosh….if theres any overrating that goes on its the typical type that occurs with players in larger markets. Interesting theory….Ill put it in the “Oh Korean player A will want to play on Team A because Japanese player B is on that team”. Talk about objectification.
Zero to do with race bro’..except maybe in your view.
Ok….so its because his name is similar? You believe people expecting him to be Jackie Robinson because he has the same first name? What people? That’s like saying people had too high of expectations of Kurt Suzuki because he had the same last name as Ichiro Suzuki. I wonder if Bob Gibson had to overcome the Bob Feller comparisons. I remember when Giancarlo Stanton was Mike Stanton….maybe he just got tired of the constant comps to the former Braves reliever Mike Stanton.
What? That’s the stupidest comment I’ve read on this site in a very LOOONG time! That’s saying a lot. But it’s coming from a Cubs fan, so what else is new.
JBJ has better numbers than Ryan Braun the last two years along with high level fielding.
To make him available is fine but don’t give him away. He is coming into his own–he could solidify an outfield for a competitive team.
To me make Xander available and sign Cozart. It will be an interesting week in Orlando.
That’s in large part because FanGraphs values defense heavily.
Ryan Braun is one of the worst defensive OFers in baseball whereas JBJ is one of the best.
On the contrary, Braun has one of the best bats for an OFer where JBJ is below average….Maybe average At Best.
if the Mariners could get the Sox to take on most of canos contract for jbj then they could move Dee Gordon from center to 2b and put jbj out there in CF. Boston would have the power in the middle of their lineup they want and could put cano at 1b, something that has at least been mentioned in Seattle. then Seattle could go get some much need SP.
Cruz for jbj. imagine Cruz bombs over that wall
What does trading JBJ accomplish? JD Martinez is a huge negative defender in the OF., if that is the second domino to fall.
If you get worse at two outfield positions (JBJ>Benintendi, Martinez<Benintendi), is it worth it?
The Sox need to address 1B and DH and leave their outfield alone.
JBJ has THREE years left, why trade him now?
I feel like the return is going to be underwhelming.
agreed. you’re hurting one area to help another. doesnt make much sense unless they fleece someone
JBJ and Hanley FOR MIKE TROUT! MAKE IT HAPPEN DD!
The Sox should just sign moose and put him or devers at first. He’s a better power hitter than hosmer and he will be cheaper.
Think the moose move makes most sence… lefty bat, is what is needed, prolly has better D then Devers… but it’s about movable parts
Sorry Boston, you don’t get to fleece other teams out of their top talent like the Yankees do.
The Sox aren’t trading a perennial allstar/mvp-candidate stud 1B for JBJ and some mediocre prospects. Swap him with Benintendi and we have a deal.
abreu never has been or will be an mvp candidate
Ummmm Abreu has been in the top 21 MVP votes 3 of the 4 years he has been in the MLB, including number 4 his rookie season. I get Benintendi has only one full season, but he was not in the top 25 for voting last year. I agree the above swap is ridiculous and should never be done by the Red Sox, but look at the players before you comment.
“Top 21”…lol!!!!!
Exactly right.
Benny can hit.
Abreu has been an all star once and has only received serious consideration for MVP once. Let’s not pretend we’re talking about Joey Votto. Think from the other direction, would you be willing to give up a 22 year old coming off his first full season as a ROY runner up for an above average first baseman? Let’s add in the variable that another first baseman with equal WAR last year is on the market.
I’m not saying the White Sox should take the for Bradley, but they’d have to be kidding themselves if they think Benintendi is worth the deal for the Red Sox.
As I said in an earlier post, Abreu has more value to the White Sox than his numbers. So yes the trade of Abreu for Benny straight up would be complete ridiculous, that is the value that Abreu has for the White Sox due to all the off field benefits he provides to the team.
Any team trading for him will have to severely overpay as long as Hahn sticks to what he says.
Any off field benefits should have no effect on how the Red Sox move. Trading Benintendi makes no sense for the Red Sox, trading JBJ makes no sense for the White Sox. Therefore, bad trade no matter what.
Sure, the Red Sox don’t need to add a 40+ HR, 100+ RBI capable hitter in that lineup. That would make too much sense. smh
Home runz and ribbies are all that matters boys.
No of course not…but more times than not a 40hr/110rbi bat isnt hiding a weak hitter….they usually show well in the deeper stats too. Abreu isnt an average hitter.
This is just a thought. The Orioles have been struggling the last couple of years to find another permanent outfielder. I know they need pitching but that would fill a huge void.
I really feel bad for Baltimore fans. All they ever need is an ace and a decent #2 starter every. freaking. year. Their owner shoud be charged with human rights violations for causing undue suffering to hundreds of Orioles fans. 😉
Our owner will always hold us back. Peter Angelos is in his 80s and when he dies nothing will change unless he sells out of the family. But I definitely agree with you. We consistently have terrible starting pitchers with a deadly lineup. Just doesn’t workout, man. Makes me wanna drink a beer.
I know you Boston honks think Bradley Jr is worth something but he’s really not.There are many guys on Triple A rosters that are defensive with potential with a bat.He hit
.267 on his best year and had 17 bombs playing half his games that bandbox that is Fenway . That place was built when a big guy was 6ft tall.His skills don’t transfer well to most teams.Im sure KC or maybe the Giants might be interested, but if you built your team well, this guy is a fourth outfielder.
Bingo! Over hyped all day long.
I love how you start your response by attacking all Boston fans then make an opinion that I’m guessing you think isn’t biased.
First off, why do people keep assuming Fenway is a home run park. It’s not. The Monster makes it a doubles park, big difference. Bradley didn’t have a great year at the plate this year and was as his usual streaky. But he managed a 2.3 WAR (fangraphs) which made him #29 among regular OF. So average. But his value lies in his glove, not his bat. Considering the range I’ve seen him cover I’d say he’s worth far more than just a 4th outfielder. If you built your team getting power elsewhere, I’d say he’s exactly the defensive player I wouldn’t mind seeing batting in the bottom third of the order.
I see the Royals being in on him. Resign Moose, sign Logan Morrison, add JBJ…thats probably a better team than they put out there already. Im guessing the Sox are probably one of the few teams that wouldn’t be interesting in Danny Duffy.
The problem with Duffy is he is left handed. The Red Sox already have a ton of lefties.
That’s what I was getting at…that and the Yankees now being loaded from the right box. Boston is going to need to counter move.
All well and good, but players like him have little trade value. They don’t command premium contracts in the free agent market either. There are tons of guys like JBJ who can track a flyball in centerfield—very few of them hit or produce runs.
Another dolt who thinks just because fenway has small dimensions that means it’s a bandbox. The only place fenway was well above average for LHB was doubles last year. Everywhere else it was just above league average or below average
The Red Sox fans really hate Jackie. They keep screaming BJ when he comes up to bat during games.
Huh?
“That stance, he notes, is tied to the team’s efforts to add a power bat — presumably, one that would occupy a corner outfield spot and bump Andrew Benintendi into center” Why would a team trade a power bat/outfielder to get Jackie Bradley, it doesn’t make sense.
Sox will counter the Stanton trade with a trade for Votto.
The Red Sox already weak farm system probably doesn’t have the prospects to make that trade.
Votto already told the Reds he won’t waive his no trade clause.
Panda for Cano and JBJ + Hanley for Trout! DD YOU HAVE TO RESPOND! MAKE THESE MOVES!
Sooooo…. Cano to the Giants?
Enough with the Votto trades. He is going to veto any trade.
Votto wouldnt even accept a trade to his hometown of Toronto when the Jays looked like a serious WS contender. Nope…Votto will continue to hold up the Reds. His contract isnt insane..but its not great for them…that or the Homer Bailey deal. Boy pitchers make out like bandits. Id build a staff of controlled arms all day and night.
Adding further evidence that Boston is the most racist city in America. Even according to the Globe’s recent series.
Lol
Bradley and Chavis for Ozuna?
I think the Sox are dangling JBJ in front of the Cubs in order to acquire Kyle Schwarber. Face it, Schwarber has no future in the National League. This would be win-win for both clubs.
I still cannot for the life of me figure out why Schwarber is still considered some hot commodity worthy of a haul.
He has second division power bat written all over him….a guy the Brewers or A’s would pick up to mash in the day….like John Jaha.
Schwarber is no longer worth what he was 2 years ago. He couldn’t even hit a baseball last season and already has some serious injuries. Sure there’s plenty of time for him to bounce back. But his value isn’t that of the guy that went down with injury or returned and made the postseason look easy. He also is 1 dimensional. I’d cut my left thumb off if we traded JBJ for him. Not sure if I said that 2-3 years ago. But I’m firm on it now.
The Cubs have an abundance of OFs with weak bats. Why would they trade for another one?
Bradley for Nelson Cruz
jbj deal for a util player, Sox sign JD for left field, Hosmer for first, dh Hanley.
Is ESPN still running his stats on the bottom line like he’s the greatest player of all time or was that only the first few weeks of his career until he was sent down to the minors?
Trading Jackie Bradley is a fantastic idea. I can’t stand watching this guy (try to) hit – infuriating. It’s like watching Dice K pitch, just leaves one tired. I don’t care how good his glove is in CF, I question Bradley’s integrity after he, too, ambushed Eckersley the way he did – that should never happen.
Even though Beane said he’s not going anywhere, a trade bringing JB Jr and prospects to Oakland for Khris Davis would yield immediate benefits for both clubs
Contract status definitely favors Bradley. Are we sure Davis is even a substantially better player than Bradley is?
Jbj and prospects? No thanks unless it’s Henry Owens and Trey Ball
I think he’s traded to make room on the roster and to add prospects and/or a utility player. I don’t think we match up on an Abreu Trade..I love some of these trade scenarios…about 1 in 20 is worth even pausing to consider. Good thing fan bases don’t negotiate trades or I don’t think any player would ever be traded again.
Either way, I hate to lose Bradley, but he seems to make sense as the one that we would need to move in order to add a bat. I also think the dip in offensive performance last year makes him more affordable than he probably should be.
Regarding the Abreu for JBJ idea, what about a three team trade between the Red Sox, White Sox, and Giants? RSox get Abreu, Giants get JBJ, and White Sox get a ton of prospects
Why the 3 team though…just pack prospects for Abreau….SF doesnt have much and probably want to use them for something a bit better than jbj. 3 team deal speculation is fun but its mind boggling.
I seriously think KC might be scoping him out.
I would keep JBJ.. Great CF. Saves you many runs with his fielding and is a reasonably good hitter.
I would pick up Hosmer (1st Choice for 1B)..
IIf I get Hosmer I would try and trade Hanley Ramirez or let him got after 2018
I would DH Pedroia.
I would resign Eduardo Nunez and use him at 2B.
I would pick up Jake McGee. (RP)
I would pick up Lance Lynn (SP).
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DD is using JBJ as a carrot to entice other GM’s to talk “deal” with the BoSox FO. Lets not forget the Sox won 93 games in 2016 w/o a slugger in the middle of the lineup.
I like the trade proposed by Damon 389 that would move JBJ for Khris Davis as the centerpieces.s. Beane is a Swihart fan, I believe if you add Chavis and Groome and we get Davis and Semien.
Davis has a higher BA than the former A’s, Chris Carter, but his 195 K’s in 2017 would be tough for Boston Fans to accept. They would love his 40 plus dingers and 100 plus RBI.
Davis, I believe, will be paid $11 M in 2018.
Perhaps follow up that trade with Matt Harvey and a good prospect for Xander. Then sign Cozart.
Interesting… Agree w/your comment re Swihart, although I don’t see why Oakland would want Chavis considering Chapman. Also, not sure the A’s would want to trade Semien. His defensive play has improved dramatically from disastrous to league average and I don’t think that Mateo or Barreto are ready. However, Jed Lowrie is another option.
Davis should play 90% of the time, but he’d absolutely mash in Boston. A’s are pushing defense and athleticism. Also, catching is a mess. Maxwell issues are well-documented, and Phegley and Garneau are PTPs at best.
I have a conflicting article saying Khris Davis won his arbitration hearing for $5 M not $11 M.
That’s a pretty good trade even with 195 K’s.
He’s poised to make $11MM in 2018
How much is Billy Beane involved in day to day operations…hes pretty into his soccer venture.
Wondering if the Bosox would do a deal with the Braves where Jackie Bradley Jr. and Blake Swihart go to Atlanta for Matt Kemp (DH) and Julio Teheran go to Boston.
The Sox might consider that trade if the Braves took Rusney Castillo and his bad contract or the Hanley contract.
Wondering if the Bosox would do a deal with the Braves where Jackie Bradley Jr. and Blake Swihart go to Atlanta for Matt Kemp (DH), Julio Teheran and either Dustin Peterson or Travis Demeritte.
What would be the return to the Padres if the R Sox were interested in a trade for Wil Myers.
I know I’m dreaming but Bradley for avi Garcia? Sorry thought it was April first
I hope it’s a dream.
Avisail Garcia had by far the highest babip in baseball. He is such a regression candidate it’s not even funny his batted ball profile says he didn’t of hit the ball much harder then JBJ there is nothing to suggest anything but a large regression next year unless you count on a .392 babip again. When you take into account the defense it’s not even close Avisail was very lucky last year.
I don’t think the Red Sox are trading JBJ unless they are signing JDM or trading for another outfielder. There is no way they are going to go into the season with Bryce Brent’s or Rusney Castillo as there starting left fielder. My guess is if JBJ is traded or will be after they have JDM or he is traded I. A larger package for Someone like Ozuna.
Fangraphs has an interesting article up about a JBJ and Abreu trade. You White Sox fans should read it Spells out why the Red Sox shouldn’t even trade JBJ straight up for Abreu. It’s an interesting read.
So CFs are better runners and defenders than 1Bs? Brilliant.
No it’s about overall value read the article if you are going to comment on it. I’m not saying that the White Sox should trade for JBJ but if they were in the market for him it would be an even up trade and the reality is they are very close in value. I realize that the White Sox might find a better deal somewhere else but saying that Abreu is way more valuable is just stupid.
JBJ’s defense adds a ton of value, no doubt about that. Although, that’s not the attention grabbing type of player most fans are wanting for their teams.
Kind of like a fullback or lineman in football. Good ones add a ton to the team but the QB and RB get all the buzz.
As a White Sox fan, I would rather have Abreu at first and “can’t hit a lick” DEFENSIVE wiz Adam Engel in the OF. Engel can make some highlight plays out there. PS…..I would give my right arm if Hahn promises to start ANYONE other than Engel in CF. I can’t stand watching automatic outs every time in the lineup. This is how I feel about Bradley also. PASS! Most every team has someone “capable” of turning into what Bradley is now. He has more upside but its looking less likely that he will reach it.
I understand your point I’m not saying that the White Sox need to trade for JBJ I’m just saying if the White Sox had the need for center fielder then this would be a one for one based on value. I realize that the Red Sox and White Sox don’t match up real well. Some of these trade proposals of JBJ and Groome plus are just ridiculous. I’m pretty sure DD kicked the the tires and Hahn probably told him it would take a lot more then you would be willing to trade.
Bruin, you’re delusional. If Abreu played for Boston, you guys wouldn’t even think of trading him away, especially for JBJ. You guys always overestimate your players and downplay players on other teams. We heard the same crap from you guys about Sale. In hindsight, turns out Sale is worth way more than what you gave us for him.
You are the delusional one so the two Sox don’t match up well in this one. Still doesn’t change the fact that they are similar value period. Whether you want to believe that or not is absolutely irrelevant it’s a fact. Fangraphs has JBJ worth slightly more over the last three years and baseball reference has Abreu worth slightly more factor in the likely arb amounts and they are very close in value straight up. This is a just fact if you can’t see that well then you are the delusional one. As for the Sale trade only and idiot would pass judgement on that trade so early. Moncada looks pretty damn good and Kopech could be an ace so why don’t you wait to pass judgement on that trade. Why don’t you ask some of your knowledgeable fans if they think the White Sox got a bad deal in the Sale trade. Hey Priggs what do you think? Did the White Sox get a bad deal on the Sale trade?
Bradley to SF for Brandon Belt. Might have to expand the deal though, Then Bos signs JD Martinez to play LF. SF gets their CF, Bos fills 1b and LF.
An idea. Does this make sense to Red Sox fans?
Red Sox Sign JD Martinez (LF)
Benintendi to CF
Red Sox get Belt and Fabian
Giants Get JBJ and Chavis
Span to LF
Red Sox get Castro (2B and then Utility when Pedroia returns)
Marlins get Houck or Beeks & lottery pick
Wonder what kind of trade would happen with Atlanta if Freeman was included, adds power to lineup and doesn’t break up a good OF. Seems like something DD and AA would attempt to pull off.
If the Braves made Freddie Freeman available and I’m DD I’m interested. I think Atlanta would as for an arm and a leg and rightfully so.
I agree, love FF and all he has done for the team. But could see these two GMs making it happen. Coppy said his right arm, but AA hasn’t made any comments yet.
Don’t break up that outfield