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Latest On Pitching Plans For Rangers, Orioles Entering Winter Meetings

By Jeff Todd | December 11, 2017 at 9:37am CDT

Every team in baseball is still looking for pitching, so in that regard the Rangers and Orioles don’t stand out. But these two organizations are similarly situated in some regards; notably, each came into the offseason with rosters that appear to be capable but not certain of contention along with clear needs for significant improvement in their starting rotations.

For Texas, the Winter Meetings offer an opportunity and a challenge to chart a course that won’t involve Shohei Ohtani. While the pursuit of the two-way Japanese star is over, the team is still considering some novel approaches to its rotation usage. As Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News writes, that might involve a six or even four-man rotation setup, depending in no small part upon the team’s eventual moves. Of course, Mike Minor and Doug Fister were already brought aboard, but that doesn’t mean the club is done adding.

Notably, the Rangers aren’t just looking at budget arms. According to Grant, the club has not only checked in on quality veterans like Alex Cobb and Lance Lynn, but has “maintained some contact” with former star Yu Darvish and hasn’t yet ruled out a surprise reunion. While he was dealt away at the trade deadline after the sides failed to line up on an extension, Darvish’s roots in Texas obviously trace back to his initial entry to the majors. Grant cautions that the team isn’t planning to lead the charge after Darvish or another top hurler, but it’s notable nonetheless that there seems to be serious consideration.

It’s less pressing in some regards, but the Rangers will also be looking to improve their relief corps. Late-inning pieces, in particular, would clearly be on the wish list. One player to keep an eye on, per MLB.com’s TR Sullivan (via Twitter), is righty Brandon Kintzler. Of course, he has also been linked to quite a few other organizations. The sinkerballer has obviously boosted his stock quite a bit with a hefty groundball rate and steady work in high-leverage situations over the past two seasons. Japanese reliever Kazuhisa Makita could also represent a potential target for Texas, Gerry Fraley of the Dallas Morning News writes.

The situation is somewhat different for the Orioles, whose need for rotation pieces is even greater than that of the Rangers. With multiple pieces needed and relatively little available payroll space, Baltimore isn’t going to dabble at the top of the market, Dan Connolly of BaltimoreBaseball.com writes. That’s essentially the same conclusion reached by Roch Kubatko of MASNsports.com, who says the Orioles “really like” Cobb but don’t expect to be able to afford him.

Wary of the risks of a long-term pitching contract, the O’s plan instead to look further down the pecking order of rotation pieces. As Connolly explains, though, several of those pitchers have already gone off the market with early deals. Veteran righty Andrew Cashner is perhaps the most logical remaining mid-tier target for the team, he notes, while a variety of less costly pitchers also figure to be strongly considered. Both reports suggest southpaw Jason Vargas as a plausible name to bolster the back end of the rotation, so he’s certainly a player to watch.

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  1. Lefty_Orioles_Fan

    7 years ago

    I would be fine if the O’s singed both Vargas and Cashner and if they both work out for the O’s, maybe they could be flipped for some prospects because the O’s need to reload/rebuild in my opinion
    Cobb and Lynn won’t help the effort in my humble opinion

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    • soggycereal

      7 years ago

      if they go to baltimore, they won’t work out.

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  2. misterb71

    7 years ago

    Whomever composed the following, “With multiple pieces needed and relatively little available payroll space…” really doesn’t know what they’re writing about. As presently situated the Orioles are roughly $40m worth of payroll below last year’s Opening Day figure. Since management hasn’t communicated they’re cutting back for 2018 then the team has plenty of money to add pitching for the upcoming season. Now whether or not the team spends it’s money wisely is a completely different issue, but the money is there by all accounts.

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    • beajd27

      7 years ago

      Don’t forget some of that money is going to go towards arbitration raises. Schoop, machado, and Britton will eat up well over half of that by themselves.

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      • Michael Chaney

        7 years ago

        Probably even more than that since Britton alone is probably hovering around $11-12 million…sure, they might be well under budget now, but there will be next to no wiggle room left after those three are accounted for so it’s pretty accurate to say they have limited resources

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        • mehs

          7 years ago

          That $40 million left is already accounting for estimated arbitration raises.

          camdenchat.com/2017/11/27/16702806/orioles-payroll…

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        • mehs

          7 years ago

          Another link if you want to see all teams. Fangraphs is accounting for estimated arbitration raises as well.

          fangraphs.com/blogs/an-estimate-of-every-teams-pay…

          You will note Baltimore is 7th in estimated payroll room at over $40 million.

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      • outinleftfield

        7 years ago

        With arbitration raises the O’s are at around $130 million. Last season they opened at $164 million. Lots of money to spend and a lot of huge holes in the lineup. Since we know that Angelos will not allow Duke to go after any top quality pitchers, that means trash like Cashner and Vargas. It is not going to be a pretty season at Camden Yards.

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    • rickerbocker

      7 years ago

      It may be you that doesn’t know what they’re talking about. The O’s have significant payroll increases through arbitration.

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  3. Brixton

    7 years ago

    So what you’re saying is… the Orioles want SP, and the Mets want to trade Harvey for a reliever.. interesting..

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    • dimitriinla

      7 years ago

      Harvey is done.

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  4. Solaris601

    7 years ago

    O’s will fill out their rotation with cheap, short-term SPs, and they’ll get what they pay for. Unless something totally unexpected happens they’ll be battling TB for last place in a very tough division. BAL will be faced with some hard decisions in July. Angelos doesn’t want to rebuild, but he may have little choice in the near future.

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  5. osfandan

    7 years ago

    I would rather flail with nobodies than pay Cashner or Vargas.

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  6. mstrchef13

    7 years ago

    I prefer Jaime Garcia to Vargas. Been saying that for months.

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