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NL West Notes: Padres, Rockies, Giants

By Connor Byrne | April 1, 2018 at 8:27am CDT

A quick look around the NL West…

  • After a rough season debut Saturday, Padres right-hander Luis Perdomo is in danger of losing his starting job, perhaps even his roster spot, AJ Cassavell of MLB.com writes. The 24-year-old Perdomo surrendered five earned runs on seven hits and four walks (with seven strikeouts) in four innings during a loss to Milwaukee, after which Padres manager Andy Green said: “It’s two years on the roster [for Perdomo]. It’s just one outing this year, and it wasn’t a great outing. But it’s time for him to go. It’s time for him to step up and attack. The challenge is out there in front of him.” If Perdomo does fall out of San Diego’s starting five, it could turn to left-hander Robbie Erlin, per Cassavell. Erlin, 27, pitched 3 2/3 innings of two-run relief Saturday in his first action since undergoing Tommy John surgery in May 2016.
  • Rockies first baseman Ian Desmond left the team’s game early Saturday with right knee soreness, and he’s now day-to-day, according to Nick Groke of the Denver Post. Desmond got off to a good start prior to the injury, going 4 for 10 with a home run, as he attempts to rebound from an injury-filled, highly disappointing 2017. Colorado replaced him with Ryan McMahon on Saturday.
  • Giants righty Jeff Samardzija, who has been out for over a week with a strained pectoral muscle, is progressing in his recovery, manager Bruce Bochy told Kerry Crowley of the Mercury News and other reporters Saturday. Samardzija probably won’t be ready the first time the Giants need a fifth starter (April 10), Bochy suggested, but it appears likely he’ll return to their rotation sometime this month.
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  1. Kwflanne

    7 years ago

    How about if Perdomo doesn’t step up, which he won’t…. we’ve seen the same thing from him for multiple years…. you bring up the pitching prospects closest to the majors and see if they are worth a damn. Not Robbie Erlin! We’ve seen it already… and it’s not impressive. Stop holding your prospects down, assuming they will succeed once they are brought up. They need to find out which of these prospects will actually perform. Example: Lucchesi got his start for Lamet…. and did NOT look as impressive as advertised (yes, I know it was just one start). But his 91 mph fastball and flat curve/slider up in the zone wasn’t fooling anyone. He relied heavily on deception, which was working for him in the minors, but that might not work in the big leagues. I’m hoping it does, I’d like to see him succeed. Point is, we won’t know about these “prospects” until they are given a chance…. not held down for the likes of Robbie Erlin, Jordan Lysles, etc

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    • Travis’ Wood

      7 years ago

      How do you know Perdomo won’t step up? He’s only 24 years old and put up respectable numbers last year… can we give him more than one start?

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      • Kwflanne

        7 years ago

        He’s had more than one start… he’s had two seasons. A 5.71 era… and last year a 4.67 era… if you consider an ERA north of 4.50 for two consecutive seasons “respectable numbers”, that’s on you.

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    • scogan

      7 years ago

      You say the same thing on every post. We get it…you want them to bring up their prospects. Why though? They aren’t major league ready or they’d be here already. Give them a little bit of time to season in the minors again and then bring them up when they are ready. Stop pushing for them to be brought up on every post…it’s not gonna happen.

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      • Kwflanne

        7 years ago

        Stop reading the posts if you think it’s the same thing… and it’s not gonna happen?? IT JUST DID HAPPEN!! They brought up Lucchesi to pitch!

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        • mrpadre19

          7 years ago

          Yes,they did just what you are asking for and brought up Lucchesi and he pitched just the same as Perdomo is.

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        • Kwflanne

          7 years ago

          Did you even read my post?? That’s one of the reasons WHY they upper level prospects should be brought up! To see if they can actually pitch in the majors! Now, Lucchesi is on ONE start, where Perdomo is on season number three… but Lucchesi can look as impressive in the minors as he has… and still not be able to get major league hitters out. That is the point I’m making. Might as well find out if these prospects in the upper minors are all they are billed up to be.

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        • SixFlagsMagicPadres

          7 years ago

          It’s nots necessary to bring up more prospects right now. Lucchesi was brought up because he was deemed the most “major league ready” out of all of them. There’s no need to rush these guys and potentially hurt their development.

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        • davidcoonce74

          7 years ago

          Lucchesi is pretty old for a prospect making his major league debut – he’s almost 25 now, and his start, he didn’t look great but not horrible. He pitches to contact, keeps the ball in the zone, but when hitters hit it they make hard contact. But he’s almost 25, hasn’t pitched above double-A, and may as well see if he’s anything.

          Perdomo looked really bad last night though. Does anybody remember when 50 Cent threw out the first pitch at a game once? Google that video clip and that was basically Perdomo last night.

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  2. Travis’ Wood

    7 years ago

    Perdomo is in danger of losing his roster spot after one start? Is this serious? This can’t be serious. Can we please wait for a slightly larger sample size? I hate early season baseball sometimes.

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    • lowtalker1

      7 years ago

      He should have never broke camp he is awful

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      • Travis’ Wood

        7 years ago

        He put up league average numbers last year as a 23 year old only two years removed from being in high A…. in what universe is that awful?

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        • lowtalker1

          7 years ago

          Should have been sent two double a last year
          Perdomo is done
          High era limited control
          I’d be fine with cutting him and would a lot of padres fans

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        • Travis’ Wood

          7 years ago

          You have literally no idea what you’re talking about lol

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        • lowtalker1

          7 years ago

          I know what I’m talking about you don’t know what you’re talking about

          He was one of the leaders in ground ball but has zero control
          He needed a year in the upper minors to figure things out

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        • Travis’ Wood

          7 years ago

          3.29 BB/9 is zero control? My goodness lol

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        • Travis’ Wood

          7 years ago

          League average BB/9 last year was also 3.29…. league average control… league average run prevention…. he’s 24 years old…..

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        • Faceguy

          7 years ago

          “I know what I’m talking about you don’t know what you’re talking about”

          Great point lol

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        • Travis’ Wood

          7 years ago

          Lol too funny. He doesn’t wanna reference any actual stats though. “He has zero control.” Stats say otherwise. Typical Internet moron

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        • stymeedone

          7 years ago

          Nothing wrong with developing a league average starter. Every team would love to have five at least average starters.

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    • SixFlagsMagicPadres

      7 years ago

      In all fairness, they could give him a couple more starts. However, if he keeps displaying more of the same, then he’s likely ticketed for the minors, which is probably where he should have been this whole time.

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      • lowtalker1

        7 years ago

        Why? He has been awful to include spring. Comparable to how good and bad cy was

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  3. JFree47

    7 years ago

    You mean to tell me, a rule 5 pitcher that wasn’t close to being ready for the majors hasn’t developed into a good pitcher? Shocking!

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    • Travis’ Wood

      7 years ago

      Um, his number so improved significantly from 2016 to 2017. He was league average last year. Not sure what numbers you’re looking at.

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      • lowtalker1

        7 years ago

        Quit trying to defends yourself Perdomo

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        • Travis’ Wood

          7 years ago

          I’m defending a league average pitcher from morons on the internet

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        • Kwflanne

          7 years ago

          Really not sure how an era over 5…. followed up by an era of over 4.6 is league average. You can’t take a certain stat like ground ball rate, and say “see, he’s league average!”…. hunter renfroe hit 26 homers last year…. above the league average… you can’t say “see, he’s a league average hitter”… your argument really doesn’t make sense. He is WELL above league average in ERA. Control/command are two VERY different things, and his pitches in the strike zone are FAR too hittable. There’s a reason the coaching staff/management is questioning his spot on the roster… and arguments like “you don’t know what you’re talking about…. morons on the internet….” etc…. just kinda show you’re getting defensive and don’t really have any validity to your statements

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        • Travis’ Wood

          7 years ago

          Are you even reading what I’m saying? I havent referenced groundball rate once… his run prevention is league average, his WAR was league average last year. By definition he’s a league average pitcher. This is not complicated lol

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        • Kwflanne

          7 years ago

          That’s why I said you can’t just take a certain stat LIKE ground ball rate, and use that as justification that he’s league average. Much like you didn’t reference renfroe and his home runs… they were examples of the TYPE OF ARGUMENT you are making. Example: you have made somewhere around 10 comments on this post…. well above the average poster…. but that doesn’t mean any of your posts were worth a damn…

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        • Travis’ Wood

          7 years ago

          You are not reading or comprehending what I’m saying. I’m not taking one single stat. I said his run prevention is league avaerage. His control is league average. His WAR is league average. Literally by definition he’s a league average starter. What more do you need to convince you he’s league average? Again, this is not complicated stuff whatsoever.

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        • Kwflanne

          7 years ago

          You’re right! This isn’t complicated at all actually, but for some reason you’re still not getting it… let me ask you a very simple question…. why do you think Padres management is saying he needs to step up?? I mean… he’s right there at league average right? He’s a league average pitcher. No one is saying he should be pitching like an ace… but according to you, he’s the definition of league average… literally by definition. Either you need to get the Padres front office and management a copy of your dictionary, so they can finally see these league average stats they have not seen already… and make a more informed decision on whether or not Perdomo should be at risk of losing his job. They, and everyone else who has watched Perdomo pitch over the course of the last couple years…. is clearly not as informed as your advanced metrics definitions. It’s my fault… I LOVE his 5.7 era two years ago and 4.67 era last year. I LOVE that he is, even on our terrible staff, one of the pitchers unable to pitch deep into games… as long as he’s the definition of league average according to you…. I’m all for it! Perdomo…. a staple of the Padres rotation for years to come!!! Future is bright! I’m gonna go ahead and stop now. Check back again when Perdomo is released, relegated to bullpen, or optioned to the minors. Hey, headley was league average in a few areas also last year! Sign an extension ASAP!!

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        • brucewayne

          7 years ago

          That post says it all ! Really? U think u have to do this WHY? It’s the damn internet !

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        • Travis’ Wood

          7 years ago

          Oh man kwflanne you are really confused man. I don’t know how I could possibly be any more clear in my explanation. 2.0 WAR is league average. He had 1.6 fWAR last year in like 160 innings. That’s league average over 180-200 innings. This is beyond basic. 4.67 ERA isn’t even that bad for a 23 year old who is two years removed from being in high A. Not every pitcher is Kershaw lol. Being league average and needing to “step up” are not mutually exclusive….

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        • Travis’ Wood

          7 years ago

          You just make no sense man. You’re rambling about him being awful yet the only stat you reference is ERA? And do you realize league average ERA for starters last year was 4.49? That’s right where Perdomo was…. how many stats does he need to be league average in before you come to your senses and realize he’s league average? A league average starter isn’t nearly as good as you think it is. Perdomo is a solid 3/4 starter, and those are valuable. How about you do some actual research before you make yourself look even more foolish.

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        • chesteraarthur

          7 years ago

          His run prevention isn’t really league average, he had an ERA- of 113 and ERA+ of 88. He’s not awful, but that’s not really league average either.

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        • Travis’ Wood

          7 years ago

          Thats fair, but ERA is also not a great stat. FIP is much better and Perdomo was actually slightly better than league average (4.40 for Perdomo compared to 4.48 for the average starter in 2017).

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  4. MiserablePadreFan

    7 years ago

    I’ve seen enough of Perdomo. The dude has zero command of anything except for his waist high sinker. Just doesn’t have any consistency and I’m done with him. As a Padre fan, he’s been ‘waived’ out of my mind and I will proceed to pretend he doesn’t exist anymore.

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  5. Kwflanne

    7 years ago

    perdomo; never has a more meaningless pitcher received this much discussion. Done

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    • MiserablePadreFan

      7 years ago

      Who? Never heard of him. He’s off my 40-man mental roster. Waived him last night.

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      • Travis’ Wood

        7 years ago

        If we are basing things on one game sample sizes the Cubs should probably just release Jon Lester cause he was horrific on opening day. Clearly washed up. Lol

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    • Kenleyfornia74

      7 years ago

      Exactly Padres fans talk about this guy like he is a future top of the rotation arm. Every since he has been with them its been an automatic win for my team whenever he pitches

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  6. Houston We Have A Solution

    7 years ago

    Not sure what the Padres are doing cause they are creating inconsistent at bats from players they need to see.

    The hosmer signing is creating a log jam. And already wound up costing myers health in the OF.

    Bench headley- put villanueva at 3rd. Put pirela at 2nd. Demote asuaje till we trade pirela. Keep spangenberg super utility. Put renfroe at RF myers in LF.

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  7. Bill 23

    7 years ago

    I haven’t seen this much Padres talk in awhile. This is fascinating.

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