The Giants are inquiring around the league about possible outfield trade targets, according to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic (via Twitter). It does not appear as if they have locked in on a particular player to this point, with the report specifying that they’re in talks with “multiple clubs.”
It’s still early, but the San Francisco organization has received little in the way of offensive production from its outfield unit. Most of the playing time has gone to youngster Steven Duggar (71 OPS+) and veterans Gerardo Parra (56) and Kevin Pillar (86).
Multiple prior trades have already contributed to the mix, including one at the beginning of the month that brought Pillar to San Francisco. Another swap landed the Giants Tyler Austin, a player they’d like to take a look at. Unfortunately, he’s struggling to get past an elbow injury.
It’s not entirely clear just what kind of player the Giants are looking for at the moment. They have taken on several unproven younger players, with Connor Joe and Michael Reed already being shown the door but Duggar and Austin still in line for opportunities. They’ve also gone with experienced options in Parra and Pillar.
The most intriguing possibility, by far, would be a surprising early-season swap in which the Giants move some of their veteran pitching for a highly promising young outfielder. That can’t be ruled out with a variety of contenders facing serious bullpen needs, though there’s no indication at the moment that a deal of real consequence is under contemplation.
Can Kimbrel play the outfield?
No, but Denard Span could!
Trade Ozuna while his stock is high!
Not the worst of ideas, but the Giants just don’t have anybody but Smith that would interest the Red Birds, except perhaps MadBaum, and the Giants are looking to compete, and they cannot do that if they trade their franchise lefty.
Marcell ozunas stock is high because he’s been juicing since he left the Marlins.
just stop
MadBaum and Smith for Ozuna and aa solid prospect would be interesting.
(Eyes rolled)
I’m taking your “eyes rolled” comment as your previous comment was a complete joke.
They really shouldn’t look to compete, they’re just not that good. It’s a pretty weak team
You say that like it’s a good idea. As a life long giants fans the attitude of some of you clueless fans is that the Giants have to “compete”.
This team should have started breaking this team up in 2016. At the very least do what the Yankees did when they rebooted by trading their best assets in Miller and Chapman to build up their farm.
What the idiot giants fans don’t realize is that the Yankees, who were better off in terms of young players in the system, it took them a decade to get back up to a serious contender.
No thanks
He blows
we got a guy whose name ends in two r’s that you can have
Guerrerorrr Juniorr?
Funny
sure wish we did, but not for trade that is
As a Giants fan, this is something that could copied and pasted for about the past 5 seasons now.
The only difference is that I’m confident Zaidi will land a guy that could make an impact without looking like a total fool in the process.
That makes one of us.
Sounds like you are a fool to begin with.
Just rebuild already. You guys came off a 64 win, added more players, and won 73. This core is no good anymore. Should’ve began rebuilding last summer.
64 win season*
The Giants have the second lowest ERA and the most DRS in the MLB. Why rebuild when you already have a team that’s producing on the defensive side of the ball? They need offense desperately. Trade Longoria for Brian Goodwin and start Sandoval.
I’m sure the angels would love to give you a productive bargain outfielder for an aging declining overpaid 3B.
at least he’ll stay on the field as opposed to Cozart.
Why would the Angels do that?
Stop the insanity!
Sure if you take Albert pujols
YES! Sandoval in, Longoria out.
Longoria deserves better anyone. He deserves to be on a contender. If he could play 2nd or left I’d trade addison Russell and Kyle Schwarber for Longoria and a reliever.
Sandoval would never fit into any space Longoria would occupy…..
Cubs don’t need Longoria
Are you saying he is LARGER THAN LIFE? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!Okay, sorry about that. one,,,
Schwarber, Russell, Montgomery to Giants for Longoria, Watson, Smith. Just get in done!
Goodwin seemed like a logical pickup when he was released during the spring. Not sure how Farhan let that one slip by.
Z must be realizing that with a little offensive boost the Giants could contend
Hard to rebuild when they have that many large aging contracts. Kind of stifles a rebuild because you can only “rebuild” around those contracts you can’t move.
In the 31 years I’ve been alive the giants have never rebuilt. They’ve been in 5 world series and won 3. The giants would be fools to copy the rest of the garbage teams who think rebuilding and tanking is somehow acceptable.
Yes! I agree. Why baseball fans get so giddy over the concept of a rebuild is beyond me. Yes it worked in Chicago and Houston, but it’s failed countless other times. Plus you force your fans through years of garbage teams. Plenty of organizations have been perennially good without any sort of drastic rebuild. The giants have plenty of money; let them use that financial leverage to keep a winning baseball team on the field.
Also workes for the Yankees, Braves and Royals. So we have a pretty good list of teams its worked for yet you mention countless teams its failed. Since its countless I imagine you can easily DOUBLE the number of teams that the strategy has failed, so go ahead.
The royals are god awful and they will continue to be for the foreseeable future. They were also a laughingstock for a decade prior.
When did the Yankees tear down and rebuild?
Sorry but the Giants are presently a garbage team,
no need for a rebuild in Frisco
They have nothing to build with…
You dont remember those world series titles in 2014 and 15 which was through their farm system?
Go ahead and peruze their roster and you will see a good number of their players that have come up through their farm.
They did a partial one in 2016 trading Chapman, Miller, Beltran, McCann, and Nova. But it worked for them because they had guys waiting in the wings to replace, plus they could still spend.
The Giants have plenty of home grown players, this is true
The unfortunate part is that the only one who was any good to come up since 2011 is Panik…
So yeah,it may be time to stop putting all your faith in ‘even year magic’ and bite the bullet…
Salary cap do I remember the royals title? Sure, I do. What are you even arguing for at this point? Do you know how they received Lorenzo Cain? By trading Zack Greinke. They didn’t do what they did in 2017 and let all their talent leave for nothing but draft picks. Are the royals tanking now? I guess not because they aren’t trading merrifield. But god damn they might as well be because they’re absolutely terrible.
You obviously build a team through the draft and with prospects. It helps if you maximize your trade assets in a non competitive window. I’m not sure you want to use the royals as a blueprint for success. Considering how many years of futility they suffered before and look to suffer after their WS win. They’re 8-18 and have a bottom 5 farm system. That’s a great argument why you should rebuild before all your talent is gone, if anything.
They might not have deliberately tanked for high draft picks like the Cubs and Astros but they did have back-to-back-to-back high picks in 2006-08 which they hit in a huge way on all 3.
Umm that is weird. There is nobody on the 1989 roster that is on the 2019 roster. So there must have been a rebuild.
Wow! You are smart! You know exactlt what a rebuild is. A rebuild is obviously a team that turns over its roster every 30 years! Hmm…did you post a strawman argument? Naaaah!
“Just rebuild already.”
The Giants aren’t in a position to rebuild. Given the ages, salaries, and recent performances, they would have to basically give away most of their core players. They would be starting from scratch. That’s not how you rebuild. If you can’t swap out your vets for good prospects, which they can’t for the most part, then you hang on to the core and try to reconfigure on the fly. That’s what Zaidi is doing and it’s really his only option.
Have you looked at the Giants pitching staff? They have some really good tradable players for teams that want to contend.
Inciarte could be an option maybe Wil Smith
He or duvall
“He or duvall”
Please tell me this is sarcasm. No way SF is trading Will Smith for Duvall. If Duvall ever comes back to the Giants it will be because they signed him after being released.
On behalf of my fellow Braves fans I apologize for the silly trade proposition of Inciarte or Duvall for Will Smith. Ooor maybe they were thinking Inciarte or Duvall for a black framed PICTURE of Will Smith.
Cards might be willing to move one of their outfielders for Smith, especially with the way Miller has been pitching.
Cards would probably want to wait for the injuries to subside first
Inciarte isn’t that good. He would struggle at AT&T park. Maybe have 50 hits for the year if it became his new home park.
Explain, please?
So a singles hitter is gonna struggle to hit in a bigger park that allows more space for said singles? Makes sense…
So you think Inciarte is going to bat .100? The only thing AT&T will supress is his home run count which is not a big part of his game. That cavernous park just might allow him to get more other hits though.
he’s a good hitter with speed and an excellent glove. (also, he typically is a much better 2nd half hitter)
Ichiro!
He’d bring the average age down a little.
Castellanos
Can’t play OF
He’s not so bad this season.
I hate to say it but renfroe makes too much sense.
Not when he’s controlled through 2023 and Bum is controlled through 2019.
Please don’t trade for anyone. Trade the pitching we have and rebuild. Even trout couldn’t fix our lineup. Is Larry Baer leaking these rumors to keep fans engaged?
So you want to trade the pitching you have, but you don’t want it to be for anyone? I’m pretty sure the line will be long (probably 29 teams deep) to take that pitching without giving anything up.
I’m pretty sure he meant don’t trade for MLB talent. Use the pitching to do a partial rebuild of the farm.
Unless they’re willing to trade Smith I’m not sure they have the pieces to land an impact OF. I’m sure they could bring back Gregor Blanco from the Mets for couch change……oh wait, Bobby Evans isn’t driving the bus these days.
Besides Smith and his 406 ERA+ They have:
Nick Vincent – 206 ERA+
Trevor Gott – 201 ERA+
Tony Watson – 189 ERA+
Reyes Moronta – 171 ERA+
And with 3 SPs with a better ERA+ than Bumgarner’s 112, and Andrew Suarez in the minors a SP is an option to trade as well. So I think they do have the trade chips beyond Smith.
They have one of the best bullpens in baseball, plus the pitching as a whole is better than most. They absolutely have more than Smith to deal, but I assume that people are not following the Giants and just assumed it was Smith and Bumgarner and that’s it. If the Giants could add an impact bat that could lengthen the lineup some and create production, they’d be able to compete better to go along with their pitching and defense.
They should trade Posey to an AL team so he can actually bat in the lineup everyday.
And Belt would probably be more valuable to a team in a stadium where he can hit homers instead of the big gaps in SF.
The Red Sox would probably trade Rusney Castillo for a halfway decent reliever. He is only under contract through next year (arb eligible after that if he sticks) and has had a couple of good years at AAA. He is having a really good year with the bat this year. He would cost $11m (pro rated) against the tax but they could send back a reliever that costs a few million in return. He is ready for MLB and wasting away at AAA.
Robles + Nats entire bullpen for Giants entire bullpen
This has the makings of a decent deal
Harper/Trout/Yelich gets us to .500. I’m starting to doubt Zaidi.
Brilliant
Adam duvall! please give us relievers
No lmao.
Go get Ackley or A.Jackson. Ackley was at spring training and healthy 2nd highest on team .526 OBP And is a Free agent that just fired Boras yesterday. So you could get him For peanuts 750k 6yrs exp. .991 fielding % in 5 spots all 0F and 1b and 2nd.
Inciarte for Smith and Watson. We’ll throw in Biddle if they want to try a reclamation project
Ha, no.
Not sure what you expect to get for Will Smith who is a FA after this season. Giants fans seem to be overvaluing him hard right now.
He’s a rental and you’re going to get rental value for him
Aroldis chapman was too you know
He’s the best closer on the market and teams pay premium for relief pitchers at the deadline. You’re undervaluing him and Watson hard. Watson and smith for inciarte? You’re a joke
Giants already have a good defensive OF, they need hitters.
Vincent for LaMonte Wade. Thats my guess
Possible trade with the Phillies? Bumgarner & Smith for a package of at least Medina and one of Williams/Haseley/Moniak. Phillies have depth when it comes to young OF’s and Nick Williams fits the doubles/gap power in SF. Haseley & Moniak are doing well in AA and would be of interest. Issue is with Herrera and Quinn on the IL for the Phils, doesn’t seem likely they’d deal from their outfield surplus at least until one of both return from the IL.
The Giants want young MLB ready OFers. The Phillies don`t have that, especially with their current injury situation.
The Cardinals are the team for the Giants to deal with right now. The Cardinals have lots of options in Bader, O’Neill., Lane Thomas, Adolis Garcia, etc.
The Cardinals are the perfect fit for Bumgarner or Will Smith or both.
I suppose the Cardinals could use Will Smith, but they really aren’t in the market for starting pitching help. Mikolas and Flaherty are much better than what they’ve shown so far, and if Hudson continues to struggle, they can always switch him out with Gomber, Ponce de Leon, or Reyes.
Smith, maybe, but they aren’t trading Bader, and they would want more than Smith for O’Neill and who else do the Giants have that would interest the Red Birds? Besides, I don’t see the Giants moving Baumgarner until the trade deadline. They are looking to compete, at least for a while.
Im not giving up Medina , Haseley or Moniak for a rental like Bumgarner
Kiermaier for Watson and Smith.
Kiermier can’t hit and that’s what the giants need
Plus the Rays already have a dynamic lefty. They might be interested in Smith, but not two lefties. Plus, Kiermier and Pillar are redundant. The Giants need an impact bat.
Teoscar Hernandez of the Jays or Jorge Soler of the Royals could seem like theoretical fits. Both teams could use a bullpen arm like Moronta or Gott.
While those 2 strikeout prone DH’s may be an improvement over what SF currently has I don’t think that’s what they’re looking for.
Hernandez has actually been decent on the field this year but I see what you mean.
Why would the Jays or Royals want MLB pitching? With both rebuilding I think they’d want prospects instead.
San Fran….you are 11-14, and you just beat a AAA team in Toronto just to improve your record to 11-14. You are in-denial. You are going nowhere. Your dream will turn into a nightmare quick if you continue to neglect the inevitable. Rebuild.
3 games under 500 and a team is trying to stay competitive? Heaven forbid!
A team going nowhere. Yes. Keep dreaming.
The horror of a team trying to put a competitive roster on the field!
See above.
I think your being a little dramatic
With just a little offense they would be very competitive, with their pitching and defense so far among the best in MLB
The San Francisco Giants have as much a chance in the AL West as Toronto has in the AL East. Stop it. Fake desire considering they had all offseason to address their OF situation if they really cared to go for it this season.
I’m going to go out on a limb and say the Giants will never win the AL West.
Yeah, typo. Anyway, SF now 5 games below .500 and fading. My first point continues to hold strong.
The problem is you don’t understand San Francisco baseball. Look at attendance numbers from the Candlestick era and you might understand why the Giants don’t want to do a full blown rebuild.
So your fanbase supports mediocrity? If the “attendance numbers” are so greatly affected by the decision to rebuild then your team hired the wrong GM who should have had a better offseason.
What I understand is your team is going nowhere. By the time you figure it out I will have moved on.
Exactly the opposite in both cases. The fan base does not support mediocrity, and you will clearly not move on.
The team has been mediocre for 3 years. Delaying the rebuild is simply extending the mediocrity. That’s the argument right there and I tend to agree with it. It’s hard not to.
And in that time period the season ticket base has dropped from 30,000 to 22,000. It will continue to drop as the team continues to perform poorly. If they go into full blown rebuild/tank mode, you’re back to 3,000 season tickets like Candlestick days.
They might want to consider moving the franchise if you are correct.
They can have Tyler Naquin
Ian Happ is available could see the Cubs wanting a reliever
Happ isn’t on the block. Try again.
Schwarber? Almora?
Please tell me exactly what the Cubs front office is thinking, random internet stranger!
I mean, if they’re looking at Chicago, Heywards off to a hot start and would cost next to nothing…
Absolutely not
Padres have extra OF’s and they need a starter. I see a match.
Maybe Smith or Watson for Margot, Myers or Renfore?
I agree the Pads have an outfielder to spare, but doubtful they would trade intra-division.
They’d drive Myers all the way down to hand deliver him to SD if they offered either for him.
Kole Calhoun
they’re looking for someone who can, you know, actually hit, not one that’s on a steep decline already..
Give us Will Smith and a AAA prospect and we’ll give you Joc Pedesen
Lol
Y alveraz for bumgarner & Smith or watson
Bumgarner would demand more than Alvarez
Why do you have something against Pickles?
Outside of Philly, Houston makes sense as a good potential trading partner, since they have Tucker and Alvarez in AAA. But I’m not sure I agree that MadBum requires more than Alvarez. Machado was dealt last year for Yusniel Diaz, a top 50 prospect at the time. Darvish was dealt the year before for Willie Calhoun, a top 50 prospect at the time. I’d easily argue that Alvarez is a better prospect than either and that MadBum is of equal or less value than Machado/Yu at the time they were dealt.
They can take Lagares from mets he’s useless for us
“though there’s no indication at the moment that a deal of real consequence is under contemplation.”
That’s a real mouthful.
More grammar cops
They need to do something big…need a huge outfield bat
Paul Bunyan?
Tyler oniel for pomernaz/Smith & top 5-10 prospect
I doubt the Cards are interested in Pomerantz. Smith is a different story, but the Red Birds moved Gonzales to get O’Neill which means the Giants would have to offer someone besides Smith to land the deal, and I don’t know who they have that would interest the Cards. A dilemma.
Watson, dyson are both rental relievers who can pitch in the back end of the bullpen.
Trade for Melky
A possibility, but he is sort of a Parra clone with less defense, and the Giants would prefer a righty with thump.
I don’t think it is in the Giants’ DNA to throw in the towel. Moreover, with veterans like Posey, Belt, Panik, Crawford, Longoria, Parra, Sandoval,Samardja, Watson, Smith and Bumgarner, among players, who can be competitive, yet not really bring much in return, their hands are tied. Yes, the Giants are going to have a tough time playing .500 ball, but a rebuild with so many veterans is unrealistic. The only logical option is to play out the string, hope for magic in a bottle, and at least be a thorn in the side of their competitors. If Arizona and San Diego continue to play near .500 ball, the Giants could be in the thick of things past the All-Star break, keeping fans coming to the park with the hope a Wild Card slot is possible.
How about a Longoria for Justin Upton swap? I realize Upton is hurt now, but he should be back in a month or so. Longoria has an extra year on his contract, but Upton is due more money, so it is relatively even. It would lower the Angels yearly payroll and get the Giants out of a big money deal a year earlier around the time they are ready for another run should they choose to rebuild.
It would give the Giants a “name” outfielder that they always seem to covet and would give the Angels a solid, albeit aged, third baseman that would allow them to convert Cozart into a super utility guy assuming he ever gets healthy.
Upton is a much better player than Longoria at this point, and I don’t think the Angels are yet ready to throw in the towel.
Yes he is, but the larger amount of money, plus the fact he is currently hurt account for that. The Giants could also add in a prospect if necessary. And I don’t think Longoria is bad enough that trading for him constitutes throwing in the towel. He is still a solid starting third baseman in the big leagues.
The point is that the Angels have no reason to downgrade their current lineup (well, “current” once Upton returns from the IL) as long as they also still intend to compete this season. Maybe try calling again in two or three months.
Longoria was a .4 WAR 3B last year. That is point four. He posted a sub .285 OBP. His OBP this year is .255 and the slugging has not been there in years. He’s a starting 3B because of the money he is owed and the fact that he’s on the Giants. You’re giving him far too much credit calling him a solid starting 3B. He’s far from that at this point. If he didn’t have that contract he’d be fighting for a ML job right now. Upton is certainly very overpaid and currently injured. He’s not getting any younger either but he’s coming off a 5 win followed by a 3 WAR season. He’s still a productive OF.
Watch them go pick up Hunter Pence.
Meanwhile, Matt Holliday is still twiddling his thumbs on the free agent market. Even at 39 years old, he’s gotta be better than what the Giants have right now.
Holliday would have a tough time in spacious Oracle. If he signs, much more likely in the AL.
Jason Heyward for Mark Melancon
Cubs won’t trade him, they love him
It’ll hurt, but because we’re such nice fans we’ll do the Giants a solid here
Are the Giants desperate enough to trade Madbaum within the division???
No.
Padres fan here…Whats your price for Bumgarner?
Renfroe, Urias and minor leaguer?
Honestly that seems like a little much, and I’m a giants fan. We’d have to throw in holland/smith/watson, and even then it might not be fair.
That said, please please do that Padres
Wild overpay by SD. Take Urias out and its fine.
Why would the Padres want to trade for Madison Bumgarner the pending FA?
If they want major league ready, Jason Heyward is off to a great start…
Can the Giants afford to take on his contract? They don’t have enough pieces to trade back to get the Cubs to eat a significant portion of it.
They have relievers and they would be taking some of the contract. that’s enough to convince the Cubs to eat a lot of it, I should think.
With Mac Williamson, the presumptive Starting Day leftfielder for much of the winter, now holding a .989 OPS in Sacramento, perhaps that should the first option before giving up anybody in a trade,
I think that the ship has sailed on Mac, but I’d love to see anyone but Parra in there right now.
Jeez people. The Giants are rebuilding. They have already replaced a quarter of the 40 man roster. You can’t overhaul a team in one off season. It took Houston a decade…Be patient.
It did not take Houston a decade. It was a decade between playoff appearances, but that wasn’t when they started the rebuild.
Inciarte, Newcomb, and Duvall for Madbum and Will Smith.
Jake Cave was just demoted to AAA recently, why not make a deal with the Twins again?? He definitely could benefit from more consistent playing time.
Posey + Bumgarner for Verdugo is a trade thats so bad its good.
Posey shouldn’t be catching (and they’re two years too late on that), and Bumgarner continues to decline. Dodgers don’t need an aging catcher who can’t hit for power and a 4.xx ERA starter. They certainly don’t need Posey at 1st, with the Bellinger/Freese/Muncy trio already. And certainly not for Verdugo, who looks like another very good regular already, with a rather high ceiling.
Seems crazy, given that a couple years ago even a prospect like Verdugo might not have been enough for Posey (possibly) OR Bumgarner (definitely not), and now the Dodgers would probably hang up laughing at the offer of both for Verdugo. Well, maybe out of respect for Zaidi, they’d hang up first, then laugh.
All those years I heard that Buster Posey needed to move to 1st to save his legs (which would save his bat), and it never happened. That Belt contract looks worse and worse now, especially given all the failed attempts to hide him in LF. Belt flashed the bat a few years, but not enough to justify accelerating Posey’s decline.
As for Bumgarner, it would appear he’s shedding value with every 2019 start. Granted, this would happen just from the passing of time. Bumgarner was worth more to another team at last year’s trade deadline than before the start of this season, simply because he’d make more starts. But he’s been in decline for several years now, and this year he’s been especially bad, being quite hittable and prone to allowing fielding mistakes and frustration at squeezed pitch calls to lead to big innings.
It’s possible that injuries or lack of depth will still inflate Bumgarner’s value to a team in desperate need or hoping for that stretch run, but I just don’t see smart teams as thinking the 2019 version of Bumgarner is worth all that much at this point.
A situation that screams for Rob Refsnyder.
The Giants with there abundance of pitching could spare a starter or a reliever if the price is right. I would love to see the Braves hook up with the Giants and I wont waste the time with silly proposals of Inciarte or even worse, Duvall for Smith. Ive already read that proposal and Giants fans rightfully objected.
The problem is the Giants dont do rebuilds so they will want an OFer mlb ready. Pache is pretty close and did well in ST this year. He’s currently playing in AA and is 20 years old.
There are problems though. As I mentioned before would the Giants FO be okay with a prospect who is ready for the MLB but not proven there yet? For the Braves, AA has held on greedily to his top prospects and with good reason. Lastly, Smith is a free agent in 2020. The Braves will want to sign an extension but that will probably be more difficult than you think because they will probably not do more than 2 years and will not go over a specific price tag of some low number or another.
Pache for a rental of Will Smith? This can’t be a serious post. The Inciarte for Smith proposals are relatively in line with what Giants fans should be expecting
Will Smith isn’t exactly Aroldis Chapman here. He’s largely had a relatively mediocre track record. Has never been a full time closer. And is reaching the age of decline very soon.
Keone Kela last year brought back Taylor Hearn from Pitt and Joakim Soria was dealt for Kodi Medeiros to put this into perspective a little bit for those of you thinking Smith is going to command some top tier outfielder. You’re all in dreamland, completely out of touch with reality.
Says the guy who proposed Watson and smith for inciarte. Inciarte is garbage, you braves fans overvalue him for some reason.
Braves could deal Adam Duvall and Dilmer Mejia for Reyes Moronta, and Ender Inciarte for Will Smith and prospect Marco Luciano or Yangervis Solarte.
What would the Braves even do with Solarte?
Ender inciarte for smith AND a prospect? Lmfao no
Nick Williams should be the Giants target.
With Martinez coming into the bullpen, Reyes hopefully returning at a better level and Hicks throwing flames we don’t need to trade for rental relievers. A left hand starting pitcher would help though. At what point to San Fran trade for Bumgarner. The wild cards will be in the central and/or east this year. And the Giants will not win the West….
How is it that all of us who read MLB Trade Rumours knew their outfield was dreadful, but they didn’t or chose to do nothing about it?
Bum and Melancon (and his gross contract) for Nimmo and Vargas
Samardzija, Bumgarner & Smith & $15M for Fowler, Canha and Mateo.
Even after trading away much of their OF depth the cardinals still have a few outfielders they could trade for the right relievers.
Will Smith to the Cards would be nice. They’ve got a lot of intriguing, controllable outfielders
Sam Dyson straight up for Jake Cave.
This is one of the few trade suggestions that make some sense, although Cave being a left handed hitter is not ideal. Most of the other proposals here—at least from a Giants perspective—are out of touch with our needs. Ideally, we want a RH OF with pop. Could be a top prospect or someone like Ozuna or Renfroe. Stop with the Kermiers, Inciartes, the Fowlers, Heywards, & Varguses. Farhan is not about to dumpster dive, we’ve already got enough problems.
Choo from Texas will be a San Francisco Giant before the weekend is over, He has a good average and gets on base,Texas will eat a portion of contract,they were talking bout this in spring training. Hopefully happens and brings back a pitcher.
Not likely, unless Texas takes Longoria & his ridiculous contract.
I think it’s about time to see what the Cubs can get for Schwarber, time for a change if Theo could ever admit a miss
Ian Happ for either Smith or Watson …
LEAVE THE BULLPEN INTACT, IF YOU EXPECT TO WIN ANY GAMES AT ALL……….
Bring up Austin Slater and Chris Shaw. The GIANTS NEVER GIVE YOUNG OUTFIELDERS A FAIR SHOT. They need 300 to 400 at bats to prove themselves. Slater can play all 3 outfield positions and Shaw can play LF & 1B.
Keep the strength of the team intact and give the KIDS a fair chance.
I’ve been a GIANTS FAN since 1962 and I’ve seen it over and over again.
Step back front office and listen to the diehard fans for once. It really pisses me off when the kids don’t get a fair shake.
I’m a Slater fan, but he’ll never hit for power. I’d like to see him up, but I think you’re dreaming if you think we can contend, even with our great pitching (which will wear down by June). The time to trade is now.
The difference between a .200 BA and a .250 BA is huge: 1 for 5 versus 1 for 4. No wonder the Giants can’t string hits together when their team BA is about .210. so far this year.
I agree they haven’t given their OF prospects much of a chance. Mac Williamson was a shining star last April until he had rammed his head into a wall. He seems to be perking up lately for Sacramento (currently (.370/.989), and Mike Gerber is showing some improvement (.323/.923). As of now, it sure looks like they could replace Pillar and Parra. They would need 2 spots on the 40 man for them though.
Slater and Shaw are already on the 40 man but not performing as well as Mac Willilamson (small sample size). Shaw is at (.255/.799) in Richmond and Slater is at (.300/.938).. Even if Mac loses .100 points off his BA in the majors, that’s still a huge upgrade from Parra (.203/.569).
So why not bring up Slater and Williamson to replace the failed experiments with Pillar and Parra? Why trade unless you can get a bonafide sure thing? Give these guys a real chance first.
Slater can also play 1B
Prospect to the Dodgers for the rights to Andrew Tolles (wherever he is).
This team needs infielders too — Crawford has a 41 OPS+, Panik is at 47 and judging by how bad they were last year too, there isn’t much reason to think they’re completely turn it around either. They’re probably better than they’re showing but they’re also probably not that close to average hitters anymore.
No…they can’t have Trammel from the Reds…
Without reading this whole thread, how many Red Sox fans suggested Jackie Bradley?
And is Michael Taylor a good idea?
Somewhere right now, Austin Jackson is checking his cell phone…
…And Melvin Upton
Breaking news… water is wet
Zaidi had the whole offseason to find an outfielder who can hit and now he decides to find one? Does he know that spring training is over?
Zaidi IMO is not all that great. Waiting until now to try to aquire an outfielder? Get real! On top of that, getting every other teams throw aways when we have our own players in the minors that deserve a shot. Slater/Shaw. Let’s try them out first and see what they can do. The Giants farm is full of aging players. 23-24 year olds in A ball 26-28 year olds in AA. Start clearing house, get rid of these old bums that have no chance of competing at the highest level.
Go talk to the Phillies. They have buried Aaron Altherr and Nick Williams. They still have Cozens who is a Gallo-esque player. All of them are cheap and need every day at bats to get going. Can also talk to the Mets about Broxton and the vets at AAA like Gomez and Davis. Offer up some of that bullpen help, maybe Crawford. A’s are always loaded and ready to deal.
If the Giants trade Smith who is next in line for saves, Melancon?
Giants should look into a 3-team trade with one of the other teams being the Orioles. O’s have a surplus of good young outfielders.
The 3rd team would have to need Giants pitching and have infield or pitching prospects for O’s.
The Giants need more than just a OF’er, they need the entire lineup redone. Everybody on that team are now bench players. Posey his days are done, Crawford his days are done, belt his days are done, panic… well he should have never even seen any days on the roster, he’s a backup player at best. Full-time AAA goob. Most teams double A lineup wood beat the Giants best out of 3 games, guarantee…lol
Remember when they could have traded for Yelich?