The Padres have at least kicked around the idea of attempting to swing a deal for Indians shortstop Francisco Lindor, Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reports (subscription link). However, Rosenthal cautions that the superstar probably won’t end up in San Diego, which already has an enviable left side of the infield between shortstop Fernando Tatis Jr. and third baseman Manny Machado. In the unlikely event the Padres do wind up with Lindor, it seems they’d try to turn Tatis into a multi-position player (primarily a center fielder), though Rosenthal notes doing so could displease the 20-year-old and would likely receive pushback from his representatives. That’s important considering San Diego’s desire to extend the phenom.
On the plus side, in addition to picking up an elite player in Lindor, the Padres would keep him away from the division-rival Dodgers, who have been connected to him this winter. But the Lindor-related talks between LA and Cleveland have only been “preliminary” to this point, per Buster Olney of ESPN (subscription). The Indians, for their part, aren’t necessarily under pressure to trade Lindor right now – he still has two years’ control left and remains the best player on a team that has been a consistent playoff contender in recent seasons. That said, the Indians don’t appear to have much of a chance to extend Lindor, so perhaps they’ll be open to parting with him this winter.
Let’s check in on a couple more of baseball’s highest-profile trade candidates…
- Bob Nightengale of USA Today reported earlier this week that the Red Sox and Dodgers have had “exploratory trade talks” in regards to Boston outfielder Mookie Betts. The Dodgers have even included shortstop Corey Seager in discussions centering on Lindor and Betts, Nightengale relays. However, even though Betts only has a year of control left (in which he should make almost $30MM via arbitration), and even though the Red Sox are working to get under the $208MM luxury tax, it doesn’t look as if there’s any hurry to part with the former AL MVP. Instead, it seems the Red Sox’s preference is to trade from their starting staff, tweets the Boston Globe’s Alex Speier, who hears that they and the Dodgers “had virtually no engagement” in regards to Betts at last week’s Winter Meetings.
- More from Rosenthal, who writes that the Yankees’ years-long interest in Cubs outfielder Kyle Schwarber has continued. Nevertheless, there’s no momentum toward a deal as of now, Rosenthal adds. Schwarber has been a favorite of the Cubs’ front office, though trading him could be part of an offseason shakeup for a club that fell apart late in 2019. The 26-year-old slugger still has two seasons of arbitration eligibility remaining, and he’s coming off a pair of above-average campaigns, so he’d likely be difficult for the Yankees or anyone else to acquire.
Dalton1017
Rangers are going to get Arenado. dont forget that one
hiflew
No they aren’t. Don’t forget that one.
dany8484
Hahaha
angt222
Think St. Louis would have a better chance at acquiring Arenado than TEX.
yogineely
Nope
Dodgerdawgs 2
Dodgers would have the pieces to get him especially since they would include Seager, who I think would better at 3rd over SS,in a package but don’t see it because of the same division thing
Jim Emmons
I’d love to see that trade made. Not to sign over the farm to Colorado, but a package worth their consideration. His contract runs through his age 36 season which isn’t awful, however I can’t see LA taking on a pact of that duration and see even less likelihood of the Rockies dealing with LA unless the Dodgers over-pay. You can’t deny that Arenado is a helluva player. Speaking of ‘can’t see’, why did they extend his contract if they had thoughts of possibly moving him? Very Stanton’esque.
Dalton1017
the trade will be such.
Rangers trade Odor Jung Allard Winn Tavaras and Heirberto Hernandez
Rockies trade Ian Desmond and Nolan Arenado
Rockies get Jung who was considered one of the better college bats out of last years draft. They get Allard who has a decent floor and a ceiling of probably a #3 Taveras who is at this point a defense first prospect who make alot of contact and has the potential to be a solid CF and Hernandez who is an exciting young prospect with a ton of power. they also take on Desmond contract which is much worse the Odor’s
Dalton1017
when i say Desmond contract is worse i mean paying him 25 mil over 2 years is worse then paying Odor 37 mil over 3
mlb1225
If the Padres were to trade for Lindor, why not just move Tatis Jr. to 2B? Seems like it would make more sense to put him there than CF. At least in CF, they have an elite defender. At 2B, Profar isn’t great on either side of the ball.
TheMick7
The problem in have with the way this article written is that there’s no indication of which pieces would return to Cleveland. It would probably take Tatis or Gore as the centerpiece of a multi-player return anyway. Highly doubtful this trade ever comes to fruition. Lindor will probably be with them until he hits FA.
As for Dodgers/Sox, it makes very little sense to send back Seager unless I’m missing something. The already have Xander at SS and Denver’s at third…..
Ezpkns34
They wouldn’t take Lindor for Tatis straight up, put down the bong
andyg37
Looks like to me like he said “centerpiece of a multiplayer return.” You should probably follow your own advice.
Daynlokki
Which would be why he said they wouldn’t even do it straight up, meaning they definitely wouldn’t with extra pieces going? Maybe you should follow the advice given.
rocknwell
That made no sense. I think you’re on the funny stuff too.
yogineely
Lindor way more valuable
YODA777
2 years of Lindor is more valuable than 5 years of Tatis? I would much rather have Tatis.
deweybelongsinthehall
As for Seager, Someone (most likely him) could always be flipped.
On another front, imagine a 20 year old in the real world trying to dictate his working conditions.
Appalachian_Outlaw
In the “real world” you can choose your employer instead of being drafted, and switch employers if you don’t care for the working conditions. You’re not bound somewhere for a decade. I see fans try to make that comparison, but it’s just not the same. Plus maybe he gets hurt trying to learn a new position, or just isn’t as good there; which hurts his future earning power.
Cam
Bad example, considering most 20 year olds in the real world actually get to have a choice in where they work.
TheMick7
I’m confused how both of you (Daynlokki & Ezpkns) re confused. As Andy said confirmed what’s meant, why would it make more sense to say they wouldn’t do it straight up so they definitely wouldn’t do it with MORE pieces. It works the others way around. Lindor would not be trades for Tatis straight up, EVER (Indians).
Indians would require Tatis, plus more, hence, as my astute friend Andy noted, my saying Tatis or Gore would be the centerpiece, which they (Padres) wouldn’t do.
So, from the person who said it, please take Andy’s advice and your own, because inhaling down you no favors.
Hope that clarifies the confusion. Oh yeah, read first, then respond, without insult, unless you want to look dumb…. mission accomplished(?)……. queue the bubbling sound……
spinach
It’s called the tech industry. (Since the massive entertain industry isn’t part of the world.)
jbrown1453
he isn’t real world. He just chose to play baseball instead of working somewhere else. When he child’s baseball he chose to play by their rules
jbrown1453
he is in the real world. He just chose to play baseball instead of working somewhere else. When he child’s baseball he chose to play by their rules
Tomfromsd
TheMick7 – Lindor is a good player.
But to claim that it would take Tatis and then some for Lindor is at best optimistic, at worst crazy.
Tatis put up 4.2 WAR in 84 games in 2019, while Lindor put up 4.7 WAR in 143 games. Tatis, playing a full year, would probably have topped Lindor’s numbers. He doesn’t have the same track record, granted, but if he fulfills the potential that pretty much every scout in baseball foresees, Tatis could be a superior player to Lindor as early as next season.
Then, consider the fact that Tatis is 6 years younger, cheaper and controllable for longer, and I just don’t see how anyone can make your case. I agree with the others. In SD’s shoes, I wouldn’t trade Tatis for Lindor straight up, let alone throwing more in the deal.
But all of this is besides the point, because the article clearly states that if SD does trade for Lindor, SD fully expects to keep Tatis anyways and move him around, rather than include him in any deal. Other prospects would be the ones in play.
kidaplus
Given age, years of control, salary and position Tatis is probably the most most valuable asset in baseball…
It’d be like someone offering someone for 10lbs silver in exchange for 10lbs of diamond encrusted gold.
He has absolutely no bearing on a potential deal as Cleveland would never ever ever ever even mention him in return for two years of Lindor.
Oh and BTW… a person epically dumb enough to type … “It would probably take Tatis or Gore as the centerpiece of a multi-player return anyway”… ie one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard… lecturing someone about looking dumb id priceless.
Everyone, do yourself a favor and read that while picturing Dax Shepard’s character from Idiocricy.
You’re welcome…
Priggs89
Nah. That title belongs to Acuna and his ridiculously team friendly contract.
deweybelongsinthehall
Disagree. Most 20 year olds take the first job offer they get assuming college. Even those with options, don’t put restrictions on a job offer at that age. There can’t be a Wild West atmosphere and most understand as they get experience, options eventually open up. They chose this career.
TheMick7
TomfromSD – I don’t disagree with your assessment based on the metrics. I am speaking to what the Indians would consider doing. In my opinion, they would not do a straight up trade, neither would the Padres, for Lindor.
Thus, I used Tatis as the most extreme example of why a trade for lesser prospects would never work.
So, if Indians would not trade for Tatis or Gore +, they sure won’t trade for lesser prospects.
I could be wrong and they could Kluber this deal, but that is my assessment of the Indians valuation of Lindor.
Also, thank you for providing a mature, cogent response, rather than the pompous individual(s) in this thread.
TheMick7
Kidaplus, if you resort to insults it exposes your lack of intelligence. If you read my comment I’m speaking to what the Indians would/wouldn’t do. If you read the thread, I refer to them being dumb for misinterpreting my statement, and then resorting to insults to validate their opinions, like you.
So, my opinion still stands… Indians would demand Gore or Tatis as the centerpiece in a trade.
I didn’t say it was fair, or that they are comparable in metrics. Taking my statements out of context does not make your point, unless you point is that the Indians would give up Lindor without demanding Gore or Tatis, in which case, I can’t help you.
So, in response to your assertion, if that is one of the dumbest things you’ve heard, you’re either so stupid you don’t know it or you’re surrounded by the most intellectual people in the baseball industry, like GMs who can make such definitive claims.
yogineely
Do you want to look dumb? Re read that message and tell me it makes sense. queue my bong sound and I’ll still know how to put a sentence together. Love all these dudes making fun of stoners but can’t put a sentence together
TheMick7
Which comment, there were a few? Yogineely, I hope you’re not going grammar police because of texting and autocorrect on my phone. I clarified it above for someone like you. I’m here to talk baseball, not deal with people that cannot grasp context. If you’re picking apart grammar, you simply are hiding behind your own incompetence.
ck99
The big risk with Tatis is that he’s had two significant injuries in his rookie year, while he’s 20. Is this going to continue? Hopefully not, but anyone considering a trade for Tatis will have to consider that.
TheMick7
Hey, yogineely, speaking of putting a sentence together….nice grammar, doofus. We use capitals, periods, and we hyphenate words; we don’t just place random spaces in between them. So, queue your bong sound and you’ll still think you know how to put a sentence together. I shall call you Glass House from now on. Word to the wise, and you too yogineely, if you are going to make fun of other’s sentence structures and grammar, please don’t write like a fifth-grader while doing so. It has a certain ring of stupidity, if you get my drift.
jimthegoat
Neither Tatis nor Gore is getting traded for a guy with only two years on his contract. Sorry.
Wolverines2
EXACTLY.
T-Dawg
Who’s Denver’s? You mean Rafael Devers?
keepinthafaithsd1
There is no way that we will let even smell Tatis jrs jockstrap for 2 yrs of Lindor. Gore is the ONLY prospect that will not be traded unless some guy named Trout (or like player w contract) is coming for him. And please everyone please stop blaming marijuana for these peoples obvious crack problem.
TheMick7
That’s exactly my point, keepinthafaith, which is why I postulated such a trade would never come to fruition.
And yes, Denver’s was an autocorrect while phone-swipe-texting. So, if a name correction is all you have, when you clearly know who I meant, you need a new occupation, uh T-dawg; or, one may point out you spelled dog wrong, if one were to be as pretentious as you are.
Nonetheless, let’s read the original transcript and agree that the two (Crack smokers) who began the personal attacks did so upon the pretext I was positing Gore or Tatis would actually be traded, because I didn’t. In fact, that thought process is antithetical to mine.
fox471 Dave
Why do Padre fans always obsess on “smelling their players jockstraps?” Is it a thing in San Diego?
Just_a_thought
My guess is they are convinced it’s the closest thing to sniffing the playoffs
TheMick7
Nothing T-dog? Wow, thanks for your profound contribution to a baseball conversation! You may have a career in this, so I encourage you, sir, don’t stop now, you’re well on your way.
Vin Scully
Your comment is incoherent. Maybe you are the one with a drug problem.
Vin Scully
Yes it is.
TheMick7
Hey Vin, not sure which comment you are referring to, sir. There were a bunch in this thread.
sdskittles
An article on MLB has this for a trade:
Padres get: SS Francisco Lindor
Indians get: RHP Luis Patino (MLB’s No. 30 prospect), SS CJ Abrams (MLB’s No. 45 prospect), OF Manuel Margot, RHP Cal Quantrill
For me, I would rather trade Trammel than Abrams.
YODA777
I would add Trammel to that pile if Cleveland included Clevinger.
hockeyjohn
Cleveland won’t trade Lindor for just prospects. They are not rebuilding. They want controllable MLB ready players. The Indians already have four center fielders (Mercado, Deshields, Allen, and Zimmer) so they do not need Margot and Quantrill would not make our roster as a starter. This offer makes no sense for the Cleveland Indians.
jimthegoat
Yes they will trade him for just prospects and if they trade Lindor then absolutely they are rebuilding. You can’t trade Lindor and simultaneously make the team better in the near term. And the Indians need to make the team better, not worse, if they want to contend.
dbenzz
Pads are definitely not trading Tatis or Gore
rocky7
Another day another typical Padres rumor….day late and a dollar short….seemingly very good 20 year old shortstop in Tatis Jr. and Manny at 3rd, but not satisfied….seems like the Rock Star GM likes to read his name or his teams name thrown around for any and every major talent out there or just likes to tinker with the already successful talent on his team.
Break up the Padres…..already too successful to read about!
padam
The only place the Padres would be moving Tatis if they acquired Lindor is to Cleveland.
TheMick7
padam: Be careful, sir. I said something similar and was all but crucified for it, although that deal won’t ever happen in my opinion.
jimthegoat
I’m not going to crucify anyone. But I will say that there is no way Tatis is traded for any player who can be a free agent in 2 years.
pasha2k
I hope they trade Betts, he doesn’t want yo sign in Boston, so trade him, n they can send big mouth Price with him, who can’t say a civil word to a HOFer Eck, whose done nothing but be honest!
ForestCobraAL
Mookie to Cincinnati.
deweybelongsinthehall
Seattle. Great city but their present losing environment combined with the worst traveling of any big league club can make one understand how fortunate playing baseball as a career players really are. Comment was meant in general, not specifically towards Mookie.
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
Because the minors don’t do that? Maybe after 10 years, he may just really want the opportunity to experience FA. With the grind that’s involved, the general inability to have a basic amount of control and decision over their lives, for such a significant portion of their career, I never begrudge a ballplayer for wanting to control their next destination no matter what their motivations are.
I know fans like to speak from this high point position as to players not understanding how great they have it, but the simple fact is guys have zero control once that first contract is signed and owners have it for upwards of 11-14 years. And in the end it’s the price you pay for the career and money, but it’s also an established carrot a player earns. So this thought that a player get stuck in a bad situation to prove some sort of flawed point seems childish and ridiculous especially if said player/s are good guys that use their platform for good. It just makes it petty in a general sense.
deweybelongsinthehall
Childish? Who’s kidding who? the comment was meant tongue in cheek because unless Seattle has talent I’m not aware of, the team would be worse off trading Mookie there. Athletes in many cases act like spoiled kids. Look at the article and referencing Tatis. Players earn rights and for most Sox fans, it’s the unusual feeling that Mookie is holding the team hostage. He won’t take their money now and is saying the right things, teasing how he loves Boston.
Vandals Took The Handles
If I had a dollar for every MLB player in my lifetime that entered their walk year saying they loved the franchise they played for and people and the city that they played in, only to turn down an obscene contract from their team to sign an even more obscene contract with a team in another city…….
cpt redbeard
so you would have a dollar..
if you’re trying to get rich you should say ” for each player”
deweybelongsinthehall
Candela, it’s just not expected when it involves a big market club. Boston has not turned down his demand. He refuses to make one and no this has not to my knowledge happened before to Boston, LA, NY, etc.
snotrocket
Why would you want to decimate the return for Betts by attaching Price?
hiflew
“doing so could displease the 20-year-old and would likely receive pushback from his representatives.” Since when do organizations really care about the hurt feelings of 20 year old players or his representatives? I could see an established star having this issue, but Tatis has not even logged an entire season yet. Definitely not enough time for “diva attitudes.”
adamontheshore
When you want to possibly sign a young potential superstar to a long-term contract it matters a lot. But, I’m just repeating what the article stated.
deweybelongsinthehall
$$$ is what will get him to consider signing long term. Imagine if they sent him back to the minors until the team was ready to win. Now that would get him and his management team mad.
Cam
And it would have the Padres facing a clear cut grievance – so what’s your point?
nymetsking
Other teams have $$$ too. If he’s ticked off and wants to leave, he’ll easily find long term offers elsewhere once he hits FA.
deweybelongsinthehall
If they for example got Lindor and wanted him to learn a new position, they have every right to send him down. if he has a slump in the field or at the plate, they’d have that right. Look at Clint Frazier. His bat was and is MLB ready. just an example.
Jesse Cook
If Tatis is a team player,he will do whatever the Padres ask him to do.
Dbird777
Are the Tribe going to make the same mistake on Lindor as they did Kluber in asking too much now and selling low later? It’s starting to look like it.
sufferforsnakes
(insert face palm here)
Avory
You can’t make this stuff up, can you, sufferer?
TheMick7
Oh, I so hope they do – to the Yankees…. but, I’d also like to be a billionaire, and I think one is just as likely as the other.
TribeFan4Ever
After seeing Kluber go down in early May and watching the Tribe’s young pitchers step up to the challenge, Tribe management knew that Kluber was an expensive piece they really don’t need..
99socalfrc
That the Padres front office would even consider moving Tatis Jr is such a joke. He won’t sign an extension with this side show outfit, write it down now.
Prunella Vulgaris
I wonder about Tatis at shortstop. He’s only 20 years old, and already he’s missed time with a bad back. Not a good sign. Perhaps an outfield spot would be better for him — not as much bending.
99socalfrc
Have you watched him play shortstop??? My guess (since you are suggesting he play OF) is no.
He dominates any game he participates in, in a way nothing short of SS will suit him. If he outgrows it fine, but moving him to make room for someone else is like asking Michael Jordan to play second fiddle.
deweybelongsinthehall
No it’s not. Maybe an established MJ but not him in after one year in the league.
Priggs89
The stats really do not agree with you. He’s more flash than substance at short.
padreforlife
Bingo
padreforlife
18 errors in 1/2 season is dominating lol
ck99
That’s a very good point Prunella. He is a spectacular at shortstop. Players like him fill seats at the ballpark. But if playing like that puts him on the DL half the season when he’s 20, it may be smarter to put him in the outfield and keep his bat in the lineup.
He’d still be a great center fielder.
Jeff Zanghi
If the Sox can unload all of Betts contract and get a package back from LAD including Seager why aren’t they moving on that opportunity. Even if they turn around and flip Seager he’d obviously be easier to trade given his contract or they could shift him to 2B — and thats assuming he’s only part of the return they’d get for Betts. I really don’t get what the Sox position is – like if they have no chance to resign him AND need to get below the luxury tax # why wouldn’t they be interested in a deal like this and get this out of the way now so they could have time to actually build out the rest of their roster before it’s too late.
Appalachian_Outlaw
I’m not disagreeing with you, but I think they’re holding on Betts, hoping someone takes Price, and they can extend Mookie. I don’t believe they move Price though unless they eat some money (counter-productive) or attach a young piece with upside though.
rocky7
Betts doesn’t have a current contract other than the Arb 1 year deal he was on this year for big money and the Arb deal he will be on this coming year….again, he has no official “contract” other than his arbitration salary he is awarded which is the Sox problem….and he has said again and again, he WILL test free agency in 2021 so a team trading for him runs the risk that their offer will not keep him in that teams uniform.
Moving Price will take lots of “money eating” on the Red Sox part……nobody, even Blooms friends will be rushing forward on a re-boot deal like in the past, to help out the Sox with their bad contracts….its all on them.
san888
It will all work itself out. Not the end of the world. Sox will be more than competitive. These players are at times delusional.
fits65
Hey Jeff,
Don’t get excited too quickly. The dodgers are not willing to pay the PRICE to get Betts for one year.
No team wants to take on really stupid contracts. So PRICE and $ale have to stay in Fenway while the Sox desperately try to trade arguably the most talented player in their history (without the junk).
Cooperdooper7
I know it is an “if” …. but If Sale is healthy—- his contract actually is not that terrible… comparable to say Strasburg (who has more injury history) it is actually under market value. Price’s contract is the problem.
Cooperdooper7
Unload Betts Contract? Please know what the heck you are even talking about before replying….. He is on his last year of Arbitration and will most likely receive around 26 to 28 mill for this year. Unloading Price solves most of the Sox issues as far as payroll. The Sox want to Keep Betts— thats why he has not been traded.
theredsoxrule
why would they want to keep Betts when he won’t be worth the money he will get for his next contract…i don’t want them to sign Betts long term it makes better business sense to trade him now for whatever they can get
jasonlamarche
Put this article in as irrelevant as the “Padres making a move for Strasburg” article
jasonlamarche
Remember when they were posting article about the Padres making moves for Strasburg, Thor, Kluber, Stro etc haha yeah me too.
jimthegoat
Pepperidge Farm remembers
jimthegoat
You’d think they have learned with Wil Myers (and to an extent Luis Urias) what happens when you keep jerking a guy around the diamond. But I guess some people are just incapable of learning from their mistakes. Also, If Preller overpays for one of those guys just to keep him from the Dodgers, he needs to go.
… not that he didn’t already need to go.
AtlSoxFan
Or you could just accept that myers just isn’t that good.
The guy did well in about a half season as a rookie. Once guys adjusted to him he became roughly league average. Myers 2nd season in TB looked… Basically exactly the way he’s looked in his entire time in SD.
Preller and Co have made their share of mistakes. “Damaging” wil myers isn’t one of them.
jimthegoat
I know he’s not good. But I do think he would do better if they had him play just one position.
AtlSoxFan
But based on what?
The problem is, before getting bounced around positions he played exactly the same talent level as he has since.
I’d say, if anything, moving him around was an attempt after all else failed to find a way to unlock some thing resembling that first rookie half-year like performance. (Of course not having been with coaching staff to know what they did try with him thays pure speculation, but not much worse than blaming the moving around for holding him back.)
jimthegoat
In 2016 when he was an All Star they put him at 1st base and then left him there.
csspackler
Urias played 2B and SS for four years in the minors. Even played 3B.
differentbears
I really don’t like the idea of moving Seager, but doing so to get Betts makes more sense than Lindor. If it were just Seager for Lindor straightup, IMO, that be only a slight upgrade, but you do it from LA’s perspective. But once you start tossing in possible prospects, especially names that already have shown their promise at the MLB level, it becomes an expensive way to slightly improve at SS.
It wasn’t that long ago that Seager was untouchable, and his woes were due to a seemingly now resolved injury. He really came alive in the second half, albeit his power was down. I expect a few more of those many doubles to be HRs in 2020.
Betts makes a bit more sense to dangle Seager plus prospects, especially if they think they can extend him. The difference as hitters between Seager and Betts is greater, and Lux shifts to SS.
The Human Rain Delay
Lindor is country miles ahead of Seager and Im a diehard Dodger fan, crazy talk…its not even close-
differentbears
I don’t see it that way. Corey Seager has a higher BA, higher OBP, same slugging, higher OPS. The ISO numbers are nearly identical, as are the HR/AB rate. Lindor has a speed advantage, and is a better defender, but his bat somehow isn’t better despite spending 81 games in a superior hitters park. Lindor switch hits, but Seager hits lefties better for his career than righties (.325 vs. .281, OPS .916 vs. .826).
Coming off an injury, Seager put up 4.7 WAR in 134 games (3.3 O, 1.4 D). Lindor in 143 games, 5.4 (3.7, 1.7).
How is Lindor “country miles ahead” of Seager?
fox471 Dave
Jd, my dear friend. Lindor is not country miles ahead of Seager. Seager was injured in 2018 and 2019 was a comeback year. Stop pretending you are a diehard Dodger fan, troll.
amk3510
They put up similar offense every year but sure feed narratives.
emac22
Why are the Yankees always alleged to be so desperate for another DH?
Just because they finally got the number one starter they’ve been avoiding doesn’t mean they should turn around and cancel out the advantage by adding a 3rd or 4th dh to the picture.
Keep DJ at first base and keep schwarber in Chicago.
PinstripedPride
Voit is at 1B and LeMahieu will return to his most used position of 2B while Gleyber slides over to SS. The club has all but officially said it
The Human Rain Delay
3 Team propsal
La- Mookie Price little cash from Sox
Chi White Sox- Seager Joc
Red Sox- Prospects and cheap mlb ready players from both teams ( They get under lux tax and get 4/5 mlb near ready talents
Chi sox offence would look very interesting next day,they have prospects to deal if they choose
Fried loves Price, Lad just got a close up…..lux may prolly stay; maybe they kick over Jonisiah Gray or Stripling with Jeter Downs on thier side to Red sox
Sox- Get payed on Mookie and money relief
ChiSoxCity
Dream on, Saux fan. Nobody’s giving you top prospects and “cheap” MLB ready players for Price and a Mookie rental. The entire baseball world is aware about the Saux’s financial situation, and have zero interest in being fleeced to bail them out. Be more reasonable and take what both players are worth right now (not much).
TrueOutcomeFan
How do you talk so much with knowing so little?
bostonbob
Bloom and Freedman have a great relationship. Sox want to trade a pitcher and with Betts gone nxt off season, the possibility exists of a trade for both, one or nine. If they want to get something done…IT WILL HAPPEN.
bostonbob
Err, none.
Matt Tobin
I mean Urias was the obvious piece to be the centerpiece of a Lindor trade….but here we are.
Maybe Pham, Mejia, and Cleveland’s choice of Trammell or Patino could get it done. It is a return that does decimate the team in 2020
jimthegoat
Cleveland would have no interest in getting Pham as part of the return for Lindor.
jekporkins
I could see L.A. and Boston getting together and doing a big trade involving Price and Betts. They have done it before. L.A. needs another starter and for some reason wants Betts. Boston wants serious salary relief.
iRiE-G
I think the padres should make a run at mookie and price.
jekporkins
I agree but San Diego sounds like they have hit their budget limit. Taking on $50 million in salary for 2020 would be a hard sell.
Priggs89
It’ll take at least Torres and Severino to get Schwarber. Probably add 2 prospects on top of that. Dude is Babe fricken Ruth.
babybears
You try too hard
Priggs89
Really didn’t have to try at all. It’s too easy.
ctguy
That is the most ridiculous proposal ever. It would take a lot more than Schwarber to get Torres.
Priggs89
You clearly don’t read many Cubs rumors.
ctguy
You clearly are delusional if you think the Yankees would consider Gleyber Torres in a trade for Schwarber.
Just_a_thought
I think these 2 would be enough if the Yankees sign Torres to a huge extension first and then trade him, while paying his entire salary. That’s the only way the cubs move him.
wordonthestreet
Torres is more valuable than Schwarber alone
canadianyankee
Here’s my trade proposal to Cleveland…Garcia, Estrada, Florial, Happ (while taking $7M of his contract) and either Loaisiga or Tarpley for Lindor….thoughts?
Just_a_thought
I’m just focusing on Happ… 1. Why would Cleveland take him? 2. Even at $7M, what if his option vests? 3. Regardless, Cleveland taking on any of his salary, while reducing payroll does not make sense. Even taking out Happ, for this return, Cleveland would likely be coming up short for Lindor. Maybe if the Yankees take on Santana’s remaining salary would Cleveland consider this underwhelming return.
Boogaloo
Underwhelming? I mean he did put 3 guys who were recently or are top 100 prospects and almost solid young player.
What were you asking for Kluber and what did you end up getting?
canadianyankee
Thanks for the civil reply…I have to disagree tho…do you really think the 2 of the top 3 prospects are underwhelming? Both ranked 62 and 82 in all mlb…sure Happ’s contract likely isn’t appealing…so take Happ out and replace him with Tarpley and Loaisiga? Plenty of young controllable talent for one player…not likely the Yanks make this move but it’d be nice to see Lindor in pinstripes…worth betting the farm on him
hockeyjohn
Happ and spare parts for Lindor. My thoughts are you need to take off your Yankee glasses and realize what an awful proposal that is.
hoosierhysteria
Garbage news. Tali’s not going to CF
OCTraveler
Dodgers need to make a deal with the Indians for Lindor that might be in the line of Pedersen, Muncy and a pitcher. Dodgers then slide Seager over to third, a position better suiting his range and go with this infield: Turner – first, Lux – second, Seager – third and Lindor – short.
wrongway2011
Betts and Bradley to the Mets for Syndergard and Conforto. Red Sox get 2 years control of top line SP for about $10M/year and good corner OF for 2 years. Mets get one year of superstar big name player, MVP candidate, exclusive negotiating rights for one year and draft pick compensation if he leaves. Plus a Gold Glove CF who should hit better in the NL.
Price to Dodgers for AJ Pollock. Price is owed $96M for 3 years. Pollock is owed $46M for 3 years and is redundant for the Dodgers. Net cost to Dodgers is $50M/3 years, or less than $17M per year. Dodgers get a front line SP at a reasonable net cost. Red Sox get viable starting OF.
Red Sox dump $32M (Price), $28M (Betts) and $11M (Bradley). Total $71M.
They bring back Syndergard $10M, Conforto $4M and Pollock $16M. Total $30M.
They save $41M which brings them $15M below the $208M threshold and allows them to sign Keuchel or Teheran to further bolster their SP, plus some extra $ to fill any other needs or have flexibility. Easy Peasy!
OCTraveler
Dodger fan who wouldn’t mind the Pollock for Price deal but would also like to get Betts as well – Dodgers have a surplus of catchers (Ruiz, Smith, Barnes), a surplus of young arms (May, Stripling) and a surplus of infielders (Muncy, Seager, Taylor) – add any two of these and work something out
yogineely
Lol to everyone who thinks half a season of tatis is more valuable than a top 10 player who’s established already.
TheMick7
Yogineely,
Why did you say my statement concurring with that made no sense then? If you were not referring to me, I sincerely apologize for misinterpreting your response.
jimthegoat
Tatis has 5 years left. And realistically should have 6.
TheMick7
For all those illiterates that can’t seem to grasp my comment earlier and continue insulting, rather than having a conversation, I will restate my assertion:
Indians would demand Gore or Tatis plus prospects before they trade Lindor.
Indians would be asking way too much because of the value of Gore and Tatis.
Hence, the trade won’t happen because Indians won’t accept less and Padres will not make that trade. Let the insults keep flying you perfidious children, but I haven’t even warmed up yet. So, mental midgets, if you disagree with that, fine, but stop taking statements out of context and then insulting your own hypothetical transaction proposal, because that, self-indulgent ignoramuses, is truly idiotic.
OCTraveler
Just because you think you’re brilliant, no reason to condemn others … besides, your thought process lacks any imagine necessary to be considered original
TheMick7
Here we go…. I was called stupid multiple times for making a valid assertion. Then I responded only to be insulted again; so yes, when repeatedly challenged by people, like you, who don’t read, get facts, or understand context, then write a response opining on said topic, I will smash your perfidious comments and subpar IQ.
I will show respect first and always, until insults fly for no reason. Then, like with you, I will demonstrate how idiotic and inaccurate your statement was. Please feel free to read, study, or get a peer review if you would like to have an adult conversation.
TheMick7
OCTraveler: And what does your last statement even mean? It’s incoherent. My “thought process lacks any imagine to be considered original?” I posited the trade would not go through and was insulted, so I insulted in return, which I don’t believe has anything to do with you. I was only speaking to those individuals partaking in the insults, so you should not take offense. But, if you do, please have something better than my statement is not original, Mr. Uber Intelligence. Unless, of course, you are a bandwagon bully, which is plausible also.
TheMick7
OCTraveler: So….. nothing again, from another illustrious author? Then stop insulting people and just have a regular conversation.
Boogaloo
Just curious, what did you think they would demand for kluber before trading him?
Im guessing alot more than they got.
Lindor is a great player, but hes basically on a 2 year- 34-38 million contract.
He loses value the longer he’s held onto, teams don’t give up great prospects for guys already deep into arbitration, at least not many do.
TheMick7
Yes, you are correct, but my opinion is that the Indians will demand either Gore or Tatis to give up Lindor. I don’t think the trade will happen because of that.
With Kluber I was surprised, like many, that they gave up so little, comparatively. Same goes for Lindor – in fact, I would love it if they asked less because I think it would give the Yankees a shot, however minimal, at trading for him. I don’t believe this trade will ever come to fruition, unless the Indians take the same approach with Lindor as the did with Kluber, I just don’t see it happening.
Again, I’m not making a value judgement, just stating what in think the Indians will demand this year. And thank you for posting your question without insults attached like many on this forum.
What do you think they will ask the Padres for him?
jimthegoat
Well they have the leverage of “We’re actually trying to contend in 2020 so it will have to be a really good return to give up the most important piece to that equation.” Fairly certain they’d demand Gore as the centerpiece.
But the Padres obviously aren’t going to move MacKenzie Gore for any 2-year rentals. Nor should they.
TheMick7
Totally agree. Upvote for you, sir. Good point.
BPax
I see why these are called “trade rumors.” They float them out there and shoot them down at the same time! I’m starting my own rumors right now. “Every major league team is interested in acquiring Mike Trout if the Angels will pay most of his salary” reports BPax on Trade Rumors. “The Angels likely won’t entertain offers in this scenario.” “Orioles interested in trading Chris Davis for Khris Davis” according to BPax. “That way we’d both have a Chris/Khris Davis that strikes out a lot” according to an Oriole spokesman that asked to not be named.
sufferforsnakes
Like the sun rising every morning
are the bizarre trade proposals on MLBTR.
drysdale53
This is the same bs/tease Freidman and Company put out every off season. “Interested in big names,” and then doing NOTHING until Trade Deadline if then. They will give the fans the likes of Pollack, Kelly and now Treinan and nothing more. Having Lindor or Betts would be great, but unless they can pitch as well as hit, then it ain’t gonna fix anything!
bigbadjohnny
Schwarber would be a Yankee Killer for the Red Sox in their ballpark !
TheMick7
He could do some damage with that swing, for sure.
Nugent'sBow
My taint itches a little bit.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
And the Yankees still dont have the prospects the Cubs want or need. Unless they get Torres plus another prospect.
paindonthurt
Lol. Not getting Torres for Schwarber.
Rickey O'Sunnyvale
Preliminary and exploratory. Sounds like Freidman.
The Human Toilet
The Dude does not have the balls to pull a major trade or sign a major free agent, he needs to go back to running a small market team where he belongs.
Jim Emmons
Dear I hate my father (nice name)
Friedman made a competitive offer for Gerrit Cole and was never given a chance to counter NY’s offer. It is unlikely that LA would have outbid the Yankees regardless. It looks like Cole had decided to be a Yankee. Rendon? What do you do when a player has a silly notion in his head about your team, but then signs with the ‘other’ Los Angeles team? I can’t think of any Dodger who lives the ‘Hollywood’ lifestyle now that Puig is gone and he was settling down as a Dad. Strasberg wanted to stay in DC. You can’t blame Friedman for all this or nor being unwilling to overpay for a player.
Jim Emmons
No, it doesn’t sound like him at all. Friedman doesn’t make sounds, he works completely in silence and every rumor we read is just that and certainly doesn’t come from him.
paindonthurt
People actually believe the Pads would trade Tatis Jr. in any trade?
Matt 18
What if the Padres set up a package for Marte and Archer for Myers plus prospects and money like maybe Morejon, Ona, and Quantrill
jimthegoat
That’s not enough to get Pittsburgh to take Myers without including Marte and Archer.
Matt 18
It’s a start I think I dont want archer but I dont want Myers more
megaj
Of course Yankees fans would drool over this. Hopefully Epstein isn’t so stupid as to trade away Schwarber. Not only fan favorite, but a true team player that may not have hit his best seasons yet.
paindonthurt
He would not be stupid to trade Schwarber if you receive more value in multiple players. I don’t think he is the one they trade however. Bryant has the the most dollars attached and should net some of the young pitching they need.
raulito23
I think ya kees dong need kyle.They hace similar players thanos Andujar whole can be moved ti outfielder,or Frazier who hace bad defensive but good bat similar kyle.