The Angels have acquired right-hander Kyle Keller from the Marlins for catcher Jose Estrada, according to announcements from both teams. The Angels designated righty Jake Jewell for assignment in a corresponding move.
Keller’s the only player in the two-man trade who comes with major league experience. An 18th-round pick of the Marlins in 2015, Keller debuted in the bigs last season with 10 2/3 innings of four-earned run ball, in which he struck out 11 and walked eight. The 26-year-old spent the majority of the season at the Triple-A level, where he posted a 4.50 ERA/4.19 FIP with a whopping 12.17 K/9 against 3.5 BB/9 over 54 innings. Although Keller was at least a useful minor league arm for the Marlins, they designated him Dec. 20.
Jewell, also 26, now finds himself in DFA limbo after struggling in both the minors and majors last season. An Angel since they used a fifth-rounder on him in 2014, Jewell threw a career-high 26 1/3 frames in 2019. However, despite an eye-popping 63.8 percent groundball rate, Jewell only managed a 6.84 ERA/6.67 FIP with 7.86 K/9 against 2.73 BB/9.
In Estrada, the Marlins are getting a 19-year-old who’s coming off his first pro season. Estrada took 176 plate appearances at the rookie level last year and batted .247/.335/.305 without a home run.
Upgrade your 40 by swapping out an “old for his level” 19 year old.
Not sexy, but an upgrade with a very minor return.
you go get’em Billy ?!
Makes sense. When you have the big league talent of the Miami Marlins you don’t need these pesky 26 year olds with great stuff who dominate in AAA!
I don’t like that they DFA’d him, but they have a full 40 and need space for Cervelli and Dickerson
Is it me, or did everyone miss the part that the Marlins got a 19 year old catcher for a soon to be 27 year old pitcher that may not have made the roster?
I don’t like it because Moran is older and should have been DFA’d before Keller, it’s an okay return considering the Marlins have no catcher prospects other than Banfield and this kids only 19.
You missed the part where people were wondering why he wouldn’t be making the roster. 26 is not old for a relief pitcher to break in, there are many many cases of older pitchers becoming strong members of good bullpens at older ages. The 19 year old c is 100% lottery pick, this guy has some potential in the next couple years i think. But not a marlins fan, so if you like it I won’t argue.
Right…as the saying goes…the 19 year old catcher, in 10 years, has a good chance of being 29. Not sure he’s anything to get even mildly excited about.
Moran is a lefty, so being older than Keller is not a factor. RHPs are easier to find than LHPs.
The Marlins need catching depth at all levels. Earlier this offseason, they signed 4 in one day (all ages 23 or 24). I’m okay with this move. We’re not talking about someone that has lit the world on fire at this point in his pro career.
We get a potential future/depth catcher for a guy that may not have even made the roster. I’m okay with this.
Not a bad swap for both sides.
A pawn for a pawn . Still waiting for that top of the rotation guy .
Quintana and Chatwood for Marsh
That’s a heavy no for the Angels. I wouldn’t give up Marsh for one year of a back of the rotation starter, and a guy who struggled so much he got moved to the pen.
Q isnt a back end starter. At worst he is a 3. And last I checked, the Angel’s aren’t flush with front end guys, which put Q in near the top. That said, your reason on the hard pass is sound.
If he so good why are you trying to dump him on the Angels?
I like Quintana. His ERA is 3.72 his FIP is 3.65. His ERA last year was 4.68 his FIP was 3.80. In this example, I trust his FIP more than his ERA.
However, Chatwood is not worth much. So basically, it’s 23 million for Quintana.
That’s too rich for most teams.
4.68 ERA. 95 ERA+ Below league average across the board. So at best a #3. Quintana is not as good as Ohtani, Canning, or Teheran and probably not even a healthy Heaney. So a #4 or #5 on the Angels. Since everyone says our pitching stinks, that shows that Quintana is not a very good starter.
Tyler Chatwood might have a little value if the Cubs were willing to eat more than half his salary. Say Chatwood, $9 million, and a Cubs middle of the top 30 prospect (like Franklin?) for Jahmai Jones and a low level prospect.
I don’t think this is the trade the angel fans were hoping for lol…
but these kind of moves can help the team in late in the season.
clear upgrade for probably nothing. these are the moves more teams should be making.
In Callaway we trust.
I very anxious to see if Callaway can work his magic with good young arms the way he did with the Indians.
He’s the first Angel pitching coach in 20 years I’ve actually trusted.
Callaway is an idiot and I am sorry as an Angel fan we got this clown.
If Callaway is such a great pitching guru then why did he DFA Robles when he was the Mets pitching guru and manager and Butcher turned Robles around into a great closer? That was Callaway’s call on the Mets!
Even Langston on the radio spotted Robles flat slider but Callaway was blind to it!
He lucked out in Cleveland with a great staff; even mlb analysts on Roger Lodge show said the same thing about Callaway’s ability or lack thereof!
Don’t put your trust in that clown or your heart will be broken!
@canosucks Says your an angels fan yet thinks “butcher” turned robles in a gem. Thats funny because butcher was on arizona last year homer….white was angels pitching coach. Also Callaway was the head coach for mets not the pitching coach….again your homerism is showing.
Well LA homer Robles was on the Angels for 2 years!
Hey how about Kershaw; my favorite pitcher!
Secondly even if I was wrong on the pitching coach doesn’t make what I said wrong
It is called manger in baseball not head coach mindless and the owners consulted HIM on pitching
Dont talk to this dude. Imindless is the WORST troll in the game. He just fishes looking for fights with Angel fans when in truth he hates himself.
Love you guys
@bkbk guess you never see me supporting the angels team in most arguments even in this one. Lol dudes trying to say callaway is a bad higher which is clearly not the case.
@bkbk how is imindless an angels troll he literally defends them in almost every post. This despite being a dodgers fan lol. Delusional
Thanks; will do…
I was getting that and he just needs to argue with everyone on here. We all give opinions and that is the fun of this but some people like mindless have nothing else better to do then just spam argue.
The only delusional thing is that a Dodger fan likes the Angels.
It’s easy to tell Canosucks is a huge loser. Even your name is a form of whining. Noife? you seem to be a candidate for that role bud hahaha
JMac. It’s hard to rip the Angels this year. They traded Cozart, and gave away their #4 prospect. That was bad, but then they signed Rendon.
They couldn’t compete with the Yankees regarding Cole. They could have overspent for Ryu and Kuechell, but I’m glad they didn’t.
They could have traded for Kluber, but the Indians don’t seem to want Marsh.
For two month you could have gotten on their case for not adding a catcher, they signed Castro.
And they added a 4th and 5th for next to nothing that are going to replace the starts made by a combination of pitchers who had an ERA in the high sixes.
The one big mistake the Angels made was not pursuing Wheeler. That may have been fruitless, but they didn’t even try. Now add Alex Wood and call it an off-season.
A huge loser, kingsslayer is a guy like you who has to applaud himself with hahaha because you are to insecure to let people on thier own think your statement is funny. just like writing lol after their statements.
kingslayer sounds like a loser who sits behind a keyboard and games his whole life away
Everyone of my comments were an opinion on sports; agree or disagree but your comment is just a sad personal attack with no sports content from a person with no life.
He said Callaway was the Manager and Pitching guru. As a Doyer fan don’t you have a wall that needs tagging?
@macstruts It’s the other way around, Angels didn’t want to give up Marsh for Kluber Indians asked for too much from the Angels and not enough from the Rangers.And Zach Wheeler for 5 years 118 mill idk how thats gonna work out for the phils.
Secondly look at the all-star Diaz the Mets picked up!
Callaway was clueless and Diaz turned in one of the worst seasons any closer in baseball has ever had! Gave up more ninth inning home runs than any pitcher in MLB history!
Thor and Matz got worse under his rein also…
Again your a homer if you think being a head coach makes him responsible for pitching lol. If that the case degrom has become the best pitcher in baseball under his watch. Again your comments and argument are invalid because you think butcher made robles a gem. Butcher hasnt been with angels for 3/4 years. Shows you don’t watch baseball lol
Also not sure why teams have a “pitching coach” if its the head coaches job to get the most out of pitchers lol. Ill take the 6 years with cleveland as a better idea of what to expect than 2 years as mets “manager” with your logic when players sustain injuries on the field that the managers fault to right? Lol #sitdown
Sorry I was busy watching Clayton Kershaw giving up back to back home runs to Rendon and Soto; so I do watch baseball.
You can google anything online connected with the Mets owners Wilpons and Callaway and see that they consulted him on pitching and brought him in as manager in the first place to help with pitching.
So if I am wrong then why when Roger Lodge asked an mlb analyst on his show if Callaway’s work in Cleveland proved his talent and the guy said no he was benifitted by the talent on hand.
I guess an MLB analyst doesn’t watch baseball either?.
What injuries are you talking about?
All the people I mentioned were healthy.
So when your clearly owned you resort to a moment in which a team that “made the playoffs” lost due to a bad call by dave roberts? Lol. So again by your logic Callaway is responsible for degrom becoming the best pitcher in baseball then? Or is that not valid because it doesnt support your irrational argument? Again posting paragraphs doesnt make you smart. You dont even know who your pitching coach is on the team you support. Says a lot. #sitdown
Your a legend in your own mind; you don’t need me but it is fun to keep you going.
DeGrom was an All Star long before Callaway joined the Mets.
I guess you don’t watch baseball.
I guess Dave Roberts threw the 2 gopher balls and not Kershaw?
Made the playoffs; I would expect more from a team with the largest payroll and financial assets than even the Yankees
With all that money you should win every year?
LA can buy a bench better than every other teams starters
Big deal were is the success when you can outspend any other team in baseball and still lose!
He lucked out in Cleveland. OK.
He’s arguable the most successful pitching coach in baseball at developing young pitchers and you say that’s all luck.
Maybe it is. The Angels could sure use some luck, and if that guy is lucky, then I hope he brings his luck with him.
Me too, I am an Angel Honk!
So if I am wrong then why when Roger Lodge asked an mlb analyst on his show if Callaway’s work in Cleveland proved his talent and the guy said no he was benifitted by the talent on hand.
Who is Roger Lodge and why should we care about his opinion?
@canosucks bro i think you probably should be less opinionated when you dont even know the team you support. You come across as a clown and a troll. Then bring up irrelevant comments that have little to do with the argument. Callaway wasnt a good manager but he was a great pitching coach for the indians (kluber,carrasco,bauer, clevinger etc.) all under him the list goes on. As an angels fan i would optimistic about a resurgence From there pitching under callaway
I can’t argue against “he’s lucky.”. Why Try?
I love the Angels… but our fans are garbage. You are a prime example.
So who is this Roger Lodge you ask? He’s a sports radio talk show host/hack and Angels homer. Former host of the Blind Date. How he still is employed by the Angels flagship station AM830 is beyond me.
Mr. King. Who is garbage? It would be nice to know who you consider a garbage fan.
If you want to be taken seriously, you shouldn’t boast your intel comes from Roger Lodge’s show.
@AngelsFans6 Well AM830 used to be a the nations largest spanish only station. Arte Moreno bought the station and the begin broadcasting Angel games in spanish. After a couple of years they made it an English only station, It is of little wonder why Roger Lodge is still employed. It is the simple fact is that he is never critical of the Angels. He is not the most sports savvy guy but he never speaks ill of the Angels. Even many fans were upset at the Harvey and Cahill signings from the beginning. He would always try to defend such bad moves. He was say we need to five them a chance. After we seen did and they were still bad, he would just say they need more time. If he were honest, he would be gone. Keep the boss happy and you can keep your job. What works for you, works for Roger Lodge.
@MrAngelsFan Yeah, that’s one of the things I don’t like about Roger Lodge. So as fans we can’t be negative about the trades made/offered, players signed, or if a certain player sucks? He’s almost always optimistic for my liking, and I’m more of a realist. I feel he is one of those politically correct type fans. Oh, we can’t talk bad and be critical about our team and players? I prefer Trent Rush as he definitely knows his baseball unlike that homer Lodge.
@AngelsFan16 I had the same frustration as you when I would listen. Just say the truth. How anyone could defend that pitching staff last year is beyond me, I understand why he is doing it but it is still frustrating.
@canosucks You do realize that managers don’t DFA anyone, right? That is 100% the GM’s job. So who was the GM? And who is the idiot?
Butcher wasn’t here last season. That was Doug White. So who is the idiot?
Francona said that Callaway was the reason the Indians made it to the 2017 World Series. That is how good he is as a itching coach. I will trust what aq MLB manager says over an unnamed MLB analyst every day and twice on Sunday.
Stop acting like a clown.
Butcher’s last season for us was 2015. 3 years before we got Robles.
Go troll another thread.
@Koamalu If you are going to call other people “idiots” or “clowns” you should at least realize that the Indians didn’t make it to the 2017 World Series.
2016 World Series. That better. Where did I call anyone an idiot? Is CanoSucks your 2nd account?
Nope. Not him. Usually when someone makes a remark like that they are really calling themselves out for whatever they are projecting on others. Good to know that you operate like that.
I’m not an Angel’s fan but let me help you out with a few things.
Callaway is one of the best and his Manager with Cleveland said he was the reason they made it to the World Series. You never hear that about a coach. That should be a clue to you about how good he is. Callaway turned Kluber from a failed prospect into a superstar and turned a bunch of kids into a World Series staff.
Butcher has been with the Diamondbacks since 2016. He has never coached Robles.
Managers don’t have any control over the roster and Eiland was the pitching coach for Robles with the Mets. You want to complain about the Mets moving a 27 year old reliever with a 5.03 ERA then you go right ahead.
Wellsaid
Agreed. Though I’m more interested in what he does with existing guys than with Keller
Where are the “fire Eppler” replies to this post?
*eye roll* should we give him an award for this? The guy has made horrible move after horrible move, makes one decent trade and it’s now it’s fine to celebrate? Give me a break.
Eppler needs to go because he has yet to solve the issues with this incredibly mediocre rotation that won’t contend in the West. And it’s not just this year, it’s is whole tenure as GM
Eppler is on the hot seat. I don’t judge him for those one year contracts last year. I judge him on Cozart, I judge him on the Upton extension. I judge him on never being able to add a useful starting pitcher like the Rangers and A’s and Houston has done.
But I also judge him on Ohtani, his work with the farm, extending Trout, and his work on the pen.
If the Angels fail this year, the Angels will have a new GM. I think fans can be patient for one more year.
I agree 110% Ohtani and Trout were the only accomplishments he’s had in 4yrs.. not good.
We go through GMs like crazy, I was hoping Eppler would be here to stay after coming from NY, but man, he’s been a total let down imo
angels fans are usually the most patient and forgiving ones.
Dr doom so you give him credit for trout? Hahaha dude was drafted in 2009/2010 unless eppler told yankees to not draft in he had no role in that. Ohtani was a huge get that no one seems to understand the magnitude of.
*eye roll*
The negotiations of resigning Trout… Maybe you should learn how to read or at least absorb what you just read.
Eppler negotiated the extension for Trout, which was based in no small part on the relationship the two men have developed.
Eppler brought in Ohtani and I don’t think his influence can be ignored there either.
@macstruts Are you inferring that Upton was a bad move? I believe most Angel fans wanted an Upton extension.. They may have change their mind after last years performance/injuries. I am not ready to give up on Upton. Even though he didnt have his legs, he still showed he had power 12 HR is 63 games. I can still see him hitting 30 HRs next year, OPS+ of 125-130. . He has never been a injury plagued player. I do not know why people are so quick to sour on a guy after one season. He has a WAR of 3.8 the prior year which would be what I expect from him. He does strike out a lot, but in today’s game,it is fairly common.
You didn’t list Rendon under your good moves or bad moves under Eppler.. Do you like it or not or do you want to wait until next year to decide?
So when you join a franchise that had arguably the worst gm in trader jerry dipoto and are supposed to turn an angels team with a barren farm and no cap space into a contender in 3/4 years? Thats rich. He has done a lot steaming from better facilities in cuba and Dominican republic. Been active in international market and drafted well. He has built the farm to a top 15 farm while fielding a competitive team on the field and making frugal trades for robles and brian goodwin and getting justin upton for a relief arm( that still hasnt made it to majors) Sure angels are a ways away from competing but being saddled with pujols, josh hamilton, cj wilson and jered weavers deals is a lot to under take. No one is turning what the angels were into a winner as they were constructed.
“making frugal trades for robles”
After Callaway DFA’d him from the Mets!
@canosucks you are a major troll lol. Mindless dont mind this mongrel
He’s had his hits and misses, for sure. Loves his high upside draft picks and high velocity relievers, but has yet to identify and develop much impact starting pitching.
I’d probably give him a B, maybe B- after factoring in both the obstacles faced and his own moves (like last year’s draft).
I like this move as an Angels fan. Young bullpen arm who will be fighting for a spot in the big league pen in ST.
Struck out 12.2 per 9 in 2019 and 13.3 in 2018 in the minors. And, we didn’t really give up much. Might end up being Buttrey-esque
@Will McLaren Yep. We will be the Nasty Boys 2.0 with Keller, Buttrey, and Robles.
Eppler loves high k/high walk rate guys in the bullpen. Grabs a couple each year, it seems.
And he has a reasonable success rate with these types of moves. River panning yeilds gold every so often
Yep. He’s been pretty good at these types of moves.
I like the move both ways.
Marlins get a competent catching prospect that’s really young.
Angels land a much needed young arm, with little innings under his belt to bolster a bullpen that’s thrown way too many innings the past few seasons.
WE ARE STILL ONE PITCHER AWAY FROM BEING SCARY. Right now we look like a better/improved team. But not by enough to close the gap between the A’s, Astros and a quality 2nd place AL East team.
All the moves the marlins have been making and I’ve been praising them for…. Then they make a move like this. Doesn’t add up…. obviously not killer or major but gosh…. something else must be brewing otherwise this just looks dumb
Wow Eppler really stepping up to address his starters this year. Maybe he can go get another quality arm like Trevor Cahill or Hernandez and try to win 4th place in the division again.
So what would you have done? Commit four years to Keuchell and Ryu? Took whatever it took to get Cole?
The people who don’t talk solutions very seldom have solutions.
Sad but very true as some don’t realize that snark adds very little to a conversation.
This is the type of little move that Eppler is doing over and over to bring a good bullpen. Robles via claim from the Mets, Buttrey via trade from the Red Sox and this offseason another high reward waiver claim could be Mike Myers from the Cardinals and now this trade for Kyle Keller. Two young arms that can be essential part of the bullpen.
Not to be that guy but his last name is Mayers. Not to be confused with Halloween‘s Michael Myers, the silent, masked killer responsible for haunting Haddonfield, Illinois lol But, let’s just hope he’ll be able to tap into his name sake’s side and massacre opponents for the Halos.
Looks like Keller could be a solid guy for us. These little tweaks make a difference. Especially if it results in losing Jewell, who did nothing for us.
I like the moves his made of late. As a fan, you are not going to agree with every move. You can only hope they get most moves correct. He inherited a barren farm system. All the picks he has made in the past few years will to begin to bear fruit in the next couple years.
There were 2 pitchers in this FA class that could have helped the Angels out, Cole and Strassburg. It wouldn’t matter who the GM was, we were not going to get either of those two. We changed course and received the only other superstar available in Rendon. He flipped Ian Kinsler to Ty Buttrey and Martin Maldonado to Patrick Sandoval. These are good moves. He traded for Bundy and signed Teheran. Most people do not understand these moves, but us true fans understand why they were made. With all the injuries we have sustained for the past years, a reliable, dependable arm means more that anything.
People do not understand we have upgraded significantly on both sides. We filled a void at 3rd base that has existed for years. I like hitting Rendon behind Trout. His patience will allow Trout to steal some bases. He also added Jason Castro, which is a significant upgrade over last year’s catchers. Hopefully, we have Upton and Ohtani healthy to begin the season. If we do, 1 to 9 there are not any glaring holes.
The rotation adds Ohtani, Teheran, and Bundy. This is oodles better than what we had last year. The dependability of Teheran and Bundy goes a long way. We are not going to have triple A or double A on speed dial. If we get a low 4 ERA from those 2 it is icing on the cake compared to last years rotation. Hopefully Ohtani can throw 22 games and get through the season healthy. I can’t wait to see him dominating on the mound again.
People want to get rid of Eppler, but much of the Angel struggle is injury related and not GM related. The fact is we are vastly improved our lineup and rotation. If you don’t see that then it is time to pull your head out of your hiney. Not every team can say the have improved both,in fact most cant. All I can ask for is improvement. Why would you even consider firing someone that improves your team? Next on the agenda is extending Simmons or signing Adell to a Luis Robert type deal.
You haters can keep hating but I love my team.