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Camp Battles: Athletics’ Second Base Job

By Steve Adams | February 18, 2020 at 8:41pm CDT

The Athletics boast one of baseball’s best infield trios: third baseman Matt Chapman, shortstop Marcus Semien and first baseman Matt Olson are among the sport’s very best as their respective positions. It’s easy to argue that Oakland is 75 percent of the way to the best infield in the game — but it’s that remaining 25 percent that will be one of the key areas of focus for the organization this spring.

Oakland’s second base position is wide open, although that doesn’t mean that the club is short on candidates. Franklin Barreto, Jorge Mateo, Tony Kemp, Sheldon Neuse and Rule 5 pick Vimael Machin are among the candidates to join that all-world infield mix. If the Oakland organization isn’t content with the options already in house, they could look to a free-agent market that still includes veterans Brian Dozier, Scooter Gennett and Tim Beckham. The merits of further muddying an already crowded mix can be debated, but the A’s at least looked into Jason Kipnis before he signed with the Cubs, so perhaps a lefty bat like Gennett would be of some interest.

Complicating the matter for Oakland decision-makers is that four of the five incumbent possibilities are unable to be sent to the minors; each of Barreto, Mateo and Kemp is out of minor league options. Machin would have to be put on waivers and offered back to the Cubs upon clearing if he doesn’t win a spot on the roster. It’s a competition that’ll surely force the Athletics into some tough decisions, but that’s common this time of year.

Let’s take a look at the options…

  • Barreto: Brett Lawrie is out of baseball. Sean Nolin hasn’t pitched in the big leagues since 2015. Kendall Graveman? He’ll spent the 2020 season with the division-rival Mariners after being non-tendered two years ago following Tommy John surgery. Some might question what those names have to do with Barreto, but A’s fans know: he’s the last vestige of the franchise-altering trade that sent Josh Donaldson to Toronto in November 2014. Still not even 24 years old, Barreto ranked among the game’s top 100 prospects in four straight offseasons but has season his prospect/rookie status expire without establishing himself in the big leagues. He curbed some strikeout issues in Triple-A last year and posted a strong .295/.374/.552 slash in Triple-A. Manager Bob Melvin tells MLB.com’s Martin Gallegos that 2020 camp represents Barreto’s “best shot” to date with the organization. “[I]f he has the type of Spring that he has had before, it’s going to be tough not to have him be part of that dynamic, whether it’s a left-right dynamic or an everyday role,” says Melvin. Assistant hitting coach Eric Martins calls the job “absolutely [Mateo’s] to lose.”
  • Mateo: Another high-profile prospect at the time of acquisition (alongside Dustin Fowler and James Kaprielian in the trade that sent Sonny Gray to the Yankees), Mateo has yet to play in the Majors. He brings elite speed — 80-grade, on some reports — that can’t be matched by the rest of the participants in this competition. Mateo hit .289/.330/.504 in 566 Triple-A plate appearances last year — a slash that incredibly, by measure of wRC+ (96), ranked just below league average in the offensively supercharged Triple-A environment. He’s a shortstop by trade and has also played center field, so he could make the club as a super-utility option even if he doesn’t win the second base job.
  • Kemp: The newest entrant into the Oakland second base derby, Kemp was acquired just last month in a trade that sent minor league infielder Alfonso Rivas to the Cubs. The 28-year-old Kemp has played in 283 games in the big leagues, mostly with the Astros, and put together a .233/.314/.367 slash through 749 plate appearances. His left-handed bat could theoretically pair well with the right-handed bats of Barreto, Kemp or Neuse, although he hasn’t displayed particularly significant platoon splits. He’s a .312/.373/.425 hitter in parts of four Triple-A seasons and brings some defensive versatility to the mix as well; Kemp has logged 1152 Major League innings in the outfield — including 321 frames in center.
  • Neuse: The fact that Neuse has all three minor league option years remaining will surely work against him, but he’ll have the chance to outplay his out-of-options brethren in Oakland camp. Like everyone else on this list, the 25-year-old Neuse was originally part of another organization; he joined the A’s along with Jesus Luzardo and Blake Treinen in the trade that sent Ryan Madson and Sean Doolittle to the Nationals. The 2019 season was a big one for Neuse, who ripped through Triple-A pitching with a .317/.389/.550 slash en route to making his Major League debut. He’s still only totaled 61 plate appearances in the bigs, but the former second-round pick will surely add to that total in some capacity in 2020.
  • Machin: The 26-year-old Machin is — pardon the pun — an OBP machine who has walked nearly as often in his minor league career as he’s struck out (215 free passes to 258 punchouts). He’s fresh off a .295/.390/.412 slash between Double-A and Triple-A in 2019, and he’s hit at a .313/.345/.437 clip in winter ball this season. Machin has at least 650 plate appearances at all four infield positions but has spent the bulk of his minor league time at second base. His versatility, OBP skills and Rule 5 status could give him an opportunity to break camp as a utility option, and a strong early showing could net him larger looks as the season wears on.

Former Blue Jays and White Sox infielder Ryan Goins stands out as a notable non-roster option who’s in camp, although it’d certainly qualify as an upset if he beat out five 40-man players — including two out-of-options former top prospects who’ve yet to see an extended audition in the big leagues (Barreto, Mateo).

Regardless of the outcome, there’s some potential for a notable 40-man move or two here late in camp. It seems likeliest that the A’s will play things safe and keep both Barreto and Mateo on the roster, but they’ll be two of the more intriguing names to monitor on this year’s list of out-of-options players throughout Spring Training.

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  1. stubby66

    5 years ago

    Steve you still forgot about Nste Orf and mow your going to look silly when he wins the job lol

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    • Steve Adams

      5 years ago

      If Nate Orf wins the starting second base gig, I will happily own my wrongness and oversight. I love seeing guys like that pop up out of nowhere.

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      • Cave

        5 years ago

        Orf, orf, orf. Hank Arft could be their manager?

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      • Rangers29

        5 years ago

        I am going to do a survey, if you think Nate Orf should be mentioned in the article then give me a like. (this is a joke, I repeat, a joke, I’m not some insecure 12 y/o looking for likes).

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        • antibelt

          5 years ago

          Rangers29-There’s my joke lol

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        • antibelt

          5 years ago

          Rangers29-There’s my joke lol

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      • ChapmansVacuum

        5 years ago

        Nate Orf somehow leads the team in WAR this season lols. Good article, I would guess Kemp, Mataeo, and Barretto make the team and they try to trade the Cubs for Machin if they can, Nuese goes to AAA to get more 2B reps and wait in case injuries cause a need there or at 3B.

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        • jchiaratti

          5 years ago

          Can only trade with the cubs after exposing him and his rule 5 rights to waivers

          Reply
  2. andrewgauldin

    5 years ago

    3 of the 5 making the opening day roster is totally plausible. And if the A’s don’t expect to give Semien an extension, I think it’s very important not to lose Mateo or Barretto through waivers. Kemp could make sense as a utility guy, I can’t see him winning the everyday second base role though.

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    • lukewance21

      5 years ago

      Barreto may be fighting for the everyday shortstop job in the near future, sooner than any of us realizes.

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    • ChapmansVacuum

      5 years ago

      If they are extending Simien we should hear about it in the next month.

      Reply
  3. racosun

    5 years ago

    Been waiting years to see Mateo hit the MLB basepaths. 80 speed is fun to watch.

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    • zacharydmanprin

      5 years ago

      80 speed doesn’t mean much if you can’t get on base.

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  4. Sideline Redwine

    5 years ago

    Semien has had one great year. Does this make him one of the best in the league? Hardly. How about show it for five or six years…he was average or slightly above his previous years, just slow down.

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    • MoRivera 1999

      5 years ago

      I don’t think it takes five or six years to judge a player. A player can establish themselves as “one of the best” in two or three years. We often look at achievements greater than three years old as being historical and perhaps less than representative of the player today. One year may be too soon, but two or three years are enough. IMO. As far as Semien goes, I might go out on a limb and say he’s “probably” one of the best.

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    • Brixton

      5 years ago

      Semien was a 7.6 fWAR player.
      Only 11 guys averaged 5 fWAR over the last 5 years, let alone 6.
      Of those 11, 7 are MVPs,

      Semien’s not a 8 WAR player moving forward, but hes not 2014-2018 Semiem either

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    • everlastingdave

      5 years ago

      I’m a White Sox fan, so I was very slow to accept what a good player Marcus Semien is because I wanted to see the Samardzija trade as lose-lose. But I was wrong and Semien is very good.

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      • sacball

        5 years ago

        Chris Bassitt makes the Shark trade a win for the A’s

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        • ChapmansVacuum

          5 years ago

          Phegley was useful as well.

          Reply
      • zonis

        5 years ago

        Semien was not a good player when he came over to the A’s. He made himself a good player through hard work. His fielding went from atrocious to amazing.

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        • zacharydmanprin

          5 years ago

          That’s ridiculous. Semien’s defense only “improved” when Matt Chapman and Matt Olson showed up. Chapman takes everything on Semien’s right and Olson can snare Semien’s poor throws. Semien still double clutches on throws.

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        • afannaz

          5 years ago

          Ron Washington, the A’s fielding coach for several of Semien’s first years with the team, was a significant part of his improvement.

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        • zacharydmanprin

          5 years ago

          No, he was not. Go back and review when Washington was there and when Chapman and Olson arrived. The only “improvement” came when the Matt’s came along.

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    • ChapmansVacuum

      5 years ago

      He has steadily improved the last 4 seasons. His defense has taken a sustainable step forward since Chapman debut. He continued the trend of lowering his K rate again this last season which is a stable predictor that he will retain a decent amount of the offensive gains. I would say you can pencil him in for 3.5-6WAR in each of the next 3 seasons.

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    • jchiaratti

      5 years ago

      Semien is one of the hardest workers in the game and has earned every advancement that he’s made on both sides of the ball… just because it took him as long as it did to truly break out, doesn’t mean he’s a fluke… he just finished 3rd in MVP voting and all the statcast data and metrics back it up

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  5. Asfan0780

    5 years ago

    Dump grossman. I’d rather see one of the utility types like mateo or machin kept. Really pulling for baretto but i doubt the organization ever gives him an extended opportunity. They keep mateo because he’s their only possible shortstop to replace semien in 2021

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    • ChapmansVacuum

      5 years ago

      Yeah between Brown, Cahna, Laureano, Piscotty, Pinder, and Kemp, Baretto, and Mateo have gotten at least some outfield reps. I think Grossman is totally superfluous and unnecessary, also his arb earnings arnt even fully guaranteed. Fowler and Bolt are just a couple more options in AAA if the team needs more OF help.

      Grossman is a fine player but he should and probably will go before the end of ST, maybe in a small trade to a team that loses an OF.

      Reply
  6. Frahm_

    5 years ago

    Didn’t Tim Beckham sign?

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    • agentx

      5 years ago

      One of the national writers reported that he’d signed with San Diego, but then another writer pointed out that the Padres had only signed Gordon Beckham and not both Gordon and Tim.

      So yeah, Tim Beckham is still out there.

      Reply
  7. Rangers29

    5 years ago

    Hey, were did my comment, and another guy’s comment go that was talking about the Astros. I posted a reply to his comment, and now both are gone. What happened?

    (On this thread btw)

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    • hiflew

      5 years ago

      If the OP’s comment is deleted either by the user or by the admin, all replies go with it.

      Reply
      • Rangers29

        5 years ago

        Ok thanks.

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    • DarkSide830

      5 years ago

      maybe stop talking about the Astros at every turn. its worn out and there are 29 other teams out there.

      Reply
  8. andrewgauldin

    5 years ago

    Semien is a good short stop, but not a top 5 shortstop. He’s no longer a liability defensively, he’s cleaned that up. But his offensive year in 2019 is an outlier. Sure he could have changed his swing or approach and that’s what led to 2019, but let’s not forget that he’s been hovering between .670 ops to .730. That’s hardly serviceable. If he didn’t clean his defense he’d be in AAA prior to 2019. Based on his career stats, he’s due to regress big time.

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    • sacball

      5 years ago

      yeah because 3.2 WAR in 2018 is worthy of sending a player who is clearly out of options to AAA, nice try

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      • andrewgauldin

        5 years ago

        I clearly stated “if he didn’t clean his defense he’d be in AAA prior to 2019.” His defense contributed to that 3.2 WAR. If his defense was that of 2014 to 2016, he’d be a liability, a negative WAR player… try again

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    • ChapmansVacuum

      5 years ago

      The improvements in K and BB rates are real and stabilize rather quickly, and with the improved K/BB rates and a top of the league K% he should be able to replicate most of his 2019 batting line.

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  9. hiflew

    5 years ago

    I really hope Kemp wins it just because I want to see him bat regularly in Houston. I don’t usually watch AL baseball, but I would an A’s/Astros just because it feels like it could be the Pirates/Reds of this year where a brawl is likely to break out any given game. One of those teams needs to sign Puig.

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    • ChapmansVacuum

      5 years ago

      I havent done the research, but I feel like he ops 1.000 vs OAK and like 1/3 of his career HR were against them. He always seemed to outplay his stats by a mile vs them.

      Reply
  10. le r.

    5 years ago

    Don’t forget about Chad Pinder, he’ll get time at 2B and arguably could play there full time.

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    • lukewance21

      5 years ago

      No. Statistics show he is a horrible defensive second baseman, but a strong defender in the outfield

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    • andrewgauldin

      5 years ago

      I think Pinder starts the season as a platoon in RF or LF with Grossman. But I wouldn’t be surprised at all if by June or July, Pinder is the every day second basemen.

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    • drgntrnr

      5 years ago

      Nope, He’s a platoon outfield guy, with the occasional backup to give guys the day off on like, sundays. He’s not an everyday starter because he can’t hit righties.

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      • ChapmansVacuum

        5 years ago

        He is there because he plays every defensive position besides Catcher at either a little above or a little below scratch, and can fill in at 7 positions when needed while being a bench bat for pinch hitting with some pop.

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    • jchiaratti

      5 years ago

      I hate to say it, but the fact ponder has options could come into play rather than losing one of Barreto/Mateo/kemp/machin

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    • jchiaratti

      5 years ago

      I hate to say it, but the fact ponder has options could come into play rather than losing one of Barreto/Mateo/kemp/machin

      Reply
  11. Moneyballer

    5 years ago

    Ill take the guy who gets on base at a .390 average clip!

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  12. BBB

    5 years ago

    Just for the record, Eric Martins said the job was “absolutely (Barreto’s) to lose,” not Mateo’s.

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    • ChapmansVacuum

      5 years ago

      Kemp/Baretto platoon at 2B with Baretto getting occasional starts elsewhere Kemp too. Then Mateo as the reserve 2B/SS/CF would be my guess as to the way it shakes out.

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  13. Geoff28

    5 years ago

    Can someone tell me how Kemp’s left handed bat also pairs well with his right handed bat… was unaware he was a switch hitter lol

    On that note, if Kemp breaks camp as the starting second sacker, I would be shocked. He is an outfielder who will occasionally get some innings on the dirt. Only reason he spent time there with Chicago was because they didn’t have anyone to man the position

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  14. Peart of the game

    5 years ago

    “He’ll spent the 2020 season with the division-rival Mariners…” Shouldn’t it be spend instead of spent since the 2020 season hasn’t begun yet?

    Reply
  15. Patrick Tracey

    5 years ago

    It’s not just Barreto – the A’s got Zach Erwin and JB Wendelken for Lawrie

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