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Dodgers Defeat Joc Pederson In Arbitration

By Jeff Todd | February 7, 2020 at 12:35pm CDT

The Dodgers have won their arbitration case against outfielder Joc Pederson, according to MLB.com’s Mark Feinsand (via Twitter). He’ll earn $7.75MM to play in Los Angeles for the coming season, though it remains to be seen which uniform he’ll be wearing.

Pederson had sought a $9.5MM payday after a strong 2019 offensive campaign. MLBTR had projected that he’d earn $8.5MM, but both sides dug in their heels. Arbitration hearings are black-and-white propositions, with the panel simply choosing the number it deems closest to the player’s true value.

All indications remain that Pederson will earn his new salary with the cross-town Angels. But we’re still waiting for a fun intra-Los Angeles trade to be finalized. (That seems likely to occur once another, yet more notable swap goes in the books.) This is Pederson’s final arb-eligible campaign.

Pederson, 27, appears to have been knocked out of the Dodgers’ outfield mix due to the still-pending acquisition of Mookie Betts. But that’s not to suggest that Pederson isn’t an accomplished player in his own right. He carries a cumulative .249/.331/.530 batting line with 61 long balls in 957 plate appearances over the past two seasons. While Pederson carries yawning platoon splits over his career, he’s quite a weapon when deployed almost exclusively against right-handed pitching.

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124 Comments

  1. ITFDB

    5 years ago

    You’re welcome, Arte…

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    • Geno55

      5 years ago

      Angels and Dodgers fans got to stick together we got to take down the cheating Houston Astros

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      • socalblake

        5 years ago

        Yep. When I lived in L.A. and the Dodger game was blacked out…let’s see what the Angels are up to tonight.

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        • frank858

          5 years ago

          Great living so close to both teams, was able to watch both growing up. Go So Cal.

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      • danielking

        5 years ago

        Collab on a time machine?

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      • puigpower

        5 years ago

        I rooted for the Angels against the Giants in 2002, and I’ll be back on the Angel train again this season. Honestly they have a fun team to root for, and I’m all in for solidarity this season.

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        • Dodger Dogg

          5 years ago

          That Angels team was fun to watch. Salmon, Percival, Anderson, Erstad, Eckstein, Kennedy, K-Rod. That Spezio homer in Game 6 was awesome! Seeing Barry sink back deep into the shadows of the dugout..

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      • Dodger Dogg

        5 years ago

        Big Time! Starting on Opening Day at the Big A! Let the cheating Astros hear it from both fans…and ALL fans from every ballpark they visit!

        Trash can banging, wire-wearing, “Don’t take my jersey off” arrogant cheaters…

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  2. Patches O’Houlihan

    5 years ago

    Hard to win an arb case when you can’t hit lefties at all. No matter how much you mash off righties.

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  3. trace

    5 years ago

    1 down, 2 to go?

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  4. Kayrall

    5 years ago

    I love the use of the word “Defeat” in the title.

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    • spinach

      5 years ago

      Much snappier than “prevail against” or “triumph over”.

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      • looiebelongsinthehall

        5 years ago

        What about “awarded $7.75m”?

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    • BlueSkies_LA

      5 years ago

      Calling an arbitration decision that goes in favor of one side or the other (as they all do) a “defeat” has always bothered me, especially when the “winner” pays and the “defeated” side $7.75M.

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      • TrumpisMyGawd

        5 years ago

        Do you think it would matter to you if you were on the losing side?

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        • BlueSkies_LA

          5 years ago

          Sides don’t actually figure into my point, but I have yet to see a team “defeated” when the arbitrator decides in the player’s favor.

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        • TrumpisMyGawd

          5 years ago

          Washington Nationals and Michael A. Taylor and the arb didn’t even rule in favor of MAT.

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        • BlueSkies_LA

          5 years ago

          The Nats avoided arbitration with Taylor.

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        • TrumpisMyGawd

          5 years ago

          No last year they went to arb with MAT, won and still lost in that they had to pay him to hit 200 (at AA to make matters worse).

          Some years ago Blevins took Rizzo to arb, won and Rizzo was so angry he traded BB despite the fact that Blevins had been a very effective in his role. Over a few hundred K too.

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        • BlueSkies_LA

          5 years ago

          Last year. Okay. This year they avoided arbitration. Anyhow I wasn’t saying that arbitrators never rule for players. Of course they do. What I was saying it seems to be rare to describe them as “defeats” for the teams.

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      • Bart Harley Jarvis

        5 years ago

        Judge, Judy, and executioner…

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    • One Bite Hotdog

      5 years ago

      Conquered

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      • ldoggnation

        5 years ago

        Beaten like a rented mule

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    • dodgerblue88

      5 years ago

      Dodgers found ‘not guilty’ of paying Pederson $9.5mm?

      It is a hearing afterall? /s

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      • humphrey x boegarts

        5 years ago

        Dodgers acquitted of paying 2 million more than they wanted to

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        • BlueSkies_LA

          5 years ago

          With credit for time already served.

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        • TrumpisMyGawd

          5 years ago

          Maybe ‘dru can have an “Acquittal Ceremony”

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  5. Buzzed Capra

    5 years ago

    I hope the Angels sign that little sparkplug Brock Holt. I wanna see the Brockstar and the Jocstar in the same lineup.

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    • harleybk2

      5 years ago

      Dodgers should keep Joc

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    • xcfan

      5 years ago

      The Brock and Joc Connection would lay the smackdown.

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  6. ICanSeeTheFuture

    5 years ago

    Vanquished!

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    • BlueSkies_LA

      5 years ago

      I hope Pederson is ashamed of himself now.

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      • Geno55

        5 years ago

        I don’t think the Dodgers like him appealing arbitration plus the Dodgers have a set outfield already And stay under the Luxury tax dump salary

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        • BlueSkies_LA

          5 years ago

          Not sure what you mean. Pederson didn’t appeal anything, he submitted his number, the Dodgers submitted theirs. When they can’t agree to meet somewhere in the middle the arbitrator goes with one or the other. That’s how the system works. But yes, he’s being traded to clear payroll and presumably keep the Dodgers under the CBT when all the numbers are in from the big trade.

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    • BallBag

      5 years ago

      Decimated!

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  7. DarrenDreifortsContract

    5 years ago

    How will Joc afford to feed his family now????

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    • trace

      5 years ago

      Less caviar spread on morning toast, and more butter and jelly.

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    • Badfinger

      5 years ago

      People love to count other people’s money.

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    • looiebelongsinthehall

      5 years ago

      Who was the first athlete to use the phrase “feed his family” during negotiations over such sums that the average fan couldn’t relate to? Sprewell in the NBA comes to mind.

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      • vtadave

        5 years ago

        Yep, same guy who said after choking his coach, “it wasn’t like he was losing air or anything”.

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      • halo6219

        5 years ago

        I thought it was Shawn Kemp who came out and said they have to pay lawyers and insurance on his expensive cars and crap like that…all the while having a dozen kids from a dozen groupies

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  8. Donkatsu

    5 years ago

    The Dodgers are going to ask the Angels to throw in $1,750,000 in their deal to give Boston against David Price’s contract.

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    • macstruts

      5 years ago

      Donkatsu, That would be fine by me. Stripling give this team innings they desperately need.

      Reply
  9. derail76

    5 years ago

    I’m looking forward to seeing this trade complete, as well as the precursor for the Dodgers. I’m a Dodgers fan, but the Angels are a distant 2nd favorite. Joc and Strip were two guys that I really liked. Super stoked that I still get to root for them in Anaheim. (I live in OC) Looks like the Angels get a pretty good, but super young prospect as well. This has to be for more than Rengifo. I’ve read that are two other prospects coming to the Dodgers.. I’m ready for the details already!!

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  10. TrumpisMyGawd

    5 years ago

    “Cross-town” but might as well be a million miles away. My condolences, Joc.

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    • macstruts

      5 years ago

      I hit “like” by mistake. You’re the reason Angel fans hate Dodger fans.

      I’d so much rather live in Orange Country than LA, more today than ever before.

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      • TrumpisMyGawd

        5 years ago

        Well, I’m not reciprocating by “liking” your comment so you’ll have to live with the consequences and maybe, just maybe, next time, you’ll be more prudent. Have a good day, sir!

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        • macstruts

          5 years ago

          I grew up about 10 to 15 minutes from “Chavez Ravine” and watched the Angels play their home games there. I’ve seen more Angel games in Dodger Stadium than Dodger games. It was hard being an Angel fan living in LA.

          However, if Dodger fans had that kind of sense of humor, It may have been a little easier.

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      • bringbackthebluee

        5 years ago

        People like him is why Padre fans despise Dodger fans too

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    • Vizionaire

      5 years ago

      0 for 4 against the halos in ’19!

      Reply
  11. cobbalicious

    5 years ago

    Aggressive title there

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    • Briffle2

      5 years ago

      You triggered, bro?

      Reply
  12. Bluemarlin528

    5 years ago

    1.75 Million for the Angels to spend on pitching.

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    • HalosHeavenJJ

      5 years ago

      Nearly covers Stripling for 2020. I hadn’t though of that.

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      • bkbk

        5 years ago

        Stripling only making 600k on the Angels. The rest the Dodgers paid on a bonus.

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        • HalosHeavenJJ

          5 years ago

          That’s right. So Joc and Stripling combined will make $8.3 million. Likely get 3ish WAR from Joc and 120 quality innings from Stripling.

          Note: the Dodgers are so stacked their spare parts make starters on most teams, even a pretty decent one like ours.

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  13. Thurman8er

    5 years ago

    Thank you, Dodgers.

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  14. Vizionaire

    5 years ago

    what treament to the faithful player!

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  15. HalosHeavenJJ

    5 years ago

    So probably increases the prospect return to the Dodgers a little bit. Have to imagine the salary has some impact on that and is a reason the full list of names hasn’t been announced.

    But I love a lineup of Fletcher, Trout, Ohtani, Rendon, Joc, Upton, Pujols/La Stella, Simba, Castro,

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    • macstruts

      5 years ago

      Halo, not necessarily. The Angels can add money to the deal that will help Boston and the Dodgers stay under the cap they may be able to add a lesser prospect. Every little bit helps.

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  16. macstruts

    5 years ago

    It means to make this trade work, the Angels can eat a little more money and stay under the cap. If the Angels can eat just a little bit that keeps the Red Sox and Dodgers under the cap, that helps everyone.

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    • Geno55

      5 years ago

      I’m sure the angels helped out one way or another with a prospect or money to finalize this trade

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      • macstruts

        5 years ago

        Getting Stripling is a GREAT deal for the Angels. When I heard it was just Pederson, it made no sense to me. But anything the Angels can do that doesn’t require giving up Marsh or Adams, I’ve very willing to support.

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        • HalosHeavenJJ

          5 years ago

          Even at just Pederson for Rengifo the trade was great. Goodwin doesn’t have a long track record and his defense rated worse than Upton’s last year. Upton is getting older, has bad defense, and is coming off of injury. Joc fits this team perfectly.

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        • macstruts

          5 years ago

          Halo, I completely disagree. The Angels didn’t need Pederson and would not have offered him a 7.75 million dollar one year contract.

          The Angels took Pederson to get Stripling.

          As far as Upton, everyone is getting older, Upton is 32. Any decline next year should be minimal.

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        • AngelDiceClay

          5 years ago

          I would hate to see Upton hurt his toe again. And we would have to suffer with a outfield of Adell, Perderson and Trout. That would be just terrible terrible news.

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  17. Mollysdad

    5 years ago

    “He’ll earn $7.75MM to play in Los Angeles for the coming season, though it remains to be seen which uniform he’ll be wearing”
    I see what you did there 😉

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  18. Geno55

    5 years ago

    Looks like Billy Eppler might keep his job after all

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    • macstruts

      5 years ago

      He just might

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  19. Richs

    5 years ago

    Add Brian Goodwin to the trade to Boston from Angels. He is not needed in LA anymore after Pedersen arrival. I need Goodwin to stay in AL he is on my fantasy team and is a cheap keeper from last year draft.

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    • dirkg

      5 years ago

      Goodwin is that much-needed 4th outfielder. Upton has had spotty health and Joc is vulnerable against lefties (although I hope they give him a shot). Trout also needs days off or DH days, so I doubt Goodwin is going anywhere (esp considering he’s also a LH hitter).

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    • andrewgauldin

      5 years ago

      No I think he’s needed. We need Goodwin as our 4th OF until Addel is up. And once Addel is up, Pederson/Upton/Trout can see some time at DH, and Goodwin can always replace one of those names if they are in the DH role. In addition, Upton had a really poor season last year, yes there were injuries, but he’s due to decline. I think the angels should keep the depth, because after Goodwin it’s Hermosillo. That’s uninspiring.
      I don’t want Pujols on the field so maybe they let Pederson try first again, it was ugly but he’s got spring training to work on it now

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  20. arne23

    5 years ago

    Bummer. I would be so disappointed to only earn $7.75 mill compared to $9.5 mill.

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    • MoRivera 1999

      5 years ago

      Well, it is roughly a $150K/mo. difference. Not chump change.

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      • HalosHeavenJJ

        5 years ago

        And he did work for basically free all those years in the minors, so he’s kind of making up for it.

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        • Mick1956

          5 years ago

          Halo – Nah, not really making up for it. Attorneys work for 50k/year for 5-10 years on average, before getting paid. But even that averages about 130k nationwide for mid-career lawyers.

          He’s more than making up for it, but I’m not hating on him either. He’s lucky and talented enough to be in a career that has a market value for him at 8 mil /year, but he also wasn’t working for free in the minors.

          Either way, I wish the guy the best in wherever he goes. He seems like one of the more humble guys in MLB.

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  21. TrumpisMyGawd

    5 years ago

    Do you think Andrew will start Adell at Tulsa or OKC? I’d start him off as a Driller and let him get comfortable and then bring him up to OKC. Thanks Billy!!

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    • macstruts

      5 years ago

      Huh? If you think Adell is part of this deal you are crazy. Marsh isn’t even part of this deal. Maybe, at the most, Jordyn Adams is part of this deal. But I doubt it’s even that.

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      • TrumpisMyGawd

        5 years ago

        We got Josie and Jeter for my beloved Puig and Wood so for Joc, Stripling and the kid, I’m expecting big, big things. Since we’re losing a “Joc”, we need a “Jo” as a replacement. Nothing less. What number can we give him?

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        • MrAngelFan

          5 years ago

          @manilavanilla66 Salt Lake City is the answer to your question.

          Stop trolling, you know you are not getting Adell for Pederson and Stripling. Rengifo is the biggest piece you are getting back.

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    • bringbackthebluee

      5 years ago

      Moron

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  22. jctarzan

    5 years ago

    Angels don’t play in Los Angeles, people.

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    • TrumpisMyGawd

      5 years ago

      When you pay enough money, you play anywhere you want. Please welcome the Minnesota Twins of Los Angeles.

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      • macstruts

        5 years ago

        As soon as MLB recognizes LA as the Twins local market I will.

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    • macstruts

      5 years ago

      jctarzan…. So? I have no idea why you people are so stuck up about it.

      Their local TV station is there. KMPC, their flagship radio station, where they broadcasted for years, was there. MLB extra innings blocks out there games there. It makes a lot more sense than California Angels.

      For all intents and purposes they play in LA,

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      • TrumpisMyGawd

        5 years ago

        Don’t tell Rendon that.

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        • macstruts

          5 years ago

          Rendon would rather live in Orange County…. who wouldn’t?

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        • math

          5 years ago

          I live in Long Beach and work in Los Alamitos. OC is a soulless vanilla wasteland if you are more than 2 miles from the water. At least LA has personality. That being said I’m not planning on moving closer to the city center anytime soon.

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        • bringbackthebluee

          5 years ago

          Yeah, skid row has lots of personality.

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        • TrumpisMyGawd

          5 years ago

          Just make sure you have Faith Night every home Friday and lots of christian country concerts after the games. No Pride Night? Not a problem.Tony 2Bags don’t wanna see dat. And if the team’s losing, awww shucks, it’s just baseball man.

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        • macstruts

          5 years ago

          Soulless Vanilla Wasteland? Bitter much? You belong in LA.

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        • MrAngelFan

          5 years ago

          @bringbackthebluee LOL. so true. I have been to LA a few times in recent months. The homeless problem isnt just confined to skid row, it is all over downtown. The homeless urinate and poop in the public elevators, but hey it is just personality.

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        • Mick1956

          5 years ago

          Can you define vanilla wasteland for me?

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    • HalosHeavenJJ

      5 years ago

      The Giants and Jets don’t play in the state of New York, the Cowboys don’t play in Dallas. Tampa Bay doesn’t play in Tampa Bay, I could go on. Teams identify by media markets.

      The Angels did play in LA for sixty years before the Dodgers and were the originators of the logo the Dodgers now have on their caps.

      Let it go.

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      • macstruts

        5 years ago

        The Dodgers didn’t invent the LA Logo, the PCL Angels did. However, except for their name, the LA Angels are not related to the PCL Angels in any way. The LA Dodgers are not related to the Hollywood Stars in any way.

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      • lowtalker1

        5 years ago

        The Hollywood stars were the padres before moving to San Diego in 36

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        • macstruts

          5 years ago

          For two years?

          Actually, the Hollywood Stars are related to the Dodgers.
          1949–50
          Brooklyn Dodgers

          So are the PCL Angels
          1957
          Brooklyn Dodgers

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        • TrumpisMyGawd

          5 years ago

          What is that, second cousins thrice-removed?

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        • macstruts

          5 years ago

          Manil…
          You do have a sense a humor… good for you.

          I started cheering for the Angels when Jim Fregosi was a rookie. I didn’t care when they changed their name to California or Anaheim, Los Angels Angels of Anaheim or back to Los Angeles. I don’t know why anyone cares.

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        • TrumpisMyGawd

          5 years ago

          Just don’t get angry when the team underperforms and Rendon just waves it off as “just baseball”. I loved his play (particularly last year) and won’t boo him when he returns to DC but I didn’t like that he seemed he was ok with losing. And when the media questioned him on that he got touchy. I prefer the Kevin Brown-type, even if some of that perfectionist rage comes from using steroids.

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      • MrAngelFan

        5 years ago

        @HHJJ People don’t get it because they don;t understand the history. The Angels were the first team to play in LA. They can call themselves “Los Angeles” even if they play 25-30 miles away. Even the city name, Los Angeles, means the Angels.

        Arte Moreno is a marketing major. He sold his billboard company for 8 billion dollars. You do not have to be a marketing major to understand the Los Angeles Angels is more marketable than the Anaheim Angels. The Angels have one of larger TV contracts in MLB and play in a city smaller than Cleveland, a small market club.

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  23. jimmy bussit

    5 years ago

    “Defeat” haaaa I love it!!!! Sounds like trial by combat!!!!!

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  24. Jim Carter

    5 years ago

    Strong is a big word for a .249 average. Yes; he hit more than 30 home runs, but so did Renato Nunez.

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    • srechter

      5 years ago

      Pederson 2019 ops+ of 127
      Nunez 2019 ops+ of 101

      Nunez was essentially league average. Pederson was ~27% above league average.

      As always, batting average is a silly stat to compare players or determine value.

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      • MrAngelFan

        5 years ago

        “As always, batting average is a silly stat to compare players or determine value.”

        Are you Adam Dunn’s and Chris Davis’s agent? AVG and OBP are not silly stats. They are part of the equation to determine a players value. You need guys that can get on base and you need guys that can hit 3 run bombs like Joc. .

        Joc Pederson AVG and OBP are serviceable but not great. They are serviceable because he hit 36 HRs and his OPS was over 900 against left handers. If he had 8 HRs and the same average, he wouldn’t get playing time.

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        • JustCheckingIn

          5 years ago

          Where’s the brick wall to drive my head thru?

          Average is the biggest joke to telling you how good of a player a guy is. A single or a bomb, he’s 1-1 if it happened in the first!

          Especially when you’re talking under 250 guys with no pop. Cmon…

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        • srechter

          5 years ago

          Angelfan, I never said obp was a silly stat. In fact, obp is a critical part of the stat I, myself, used as evidence of Pederson’s superior production. I also never called batting average a silly stat outright. I simply believe it’s silly to compare two hitters solely based on their batting average, which isn’t even really an arguable point of contention. You seem to treat slugging percentage as something of a fluke, which is interesting, and, I would argue, plainly incorrect. Pederson takes walks and hits for power. There is value in that approach. That is the beginning and end of what this argument really boils down to, and it’s remarkable it’s an argument that is still waged at all.

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    • TrumpisMyGawd

      5 years ago

      Joc had a 920 OPS against RHP; Renato 733 and against LHP, 836. See the difference now?

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    • Dodgerblog

      5 years ago

      The Angels will like this player

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  25. RicoD

    5 years ago

    This seems like one of the larger gaps between player and team that I can remember seeing. Is this the largest of this offseason?

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    • JustCheckingIn

      5 years ago

      It was 1.75M…

      Springer and Houston were 5 million apart… and many more over 2M. It wasn’t that big a gap…

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  26. fieldsj2

    5 years ago

    The arbitrator must have been left handed!

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  27. lowtalker1

    5 years ago

    Angels don’t even play in la county, they play in Orange County

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    • macstruts

      5 years ago

      Again… So?

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  28. bballblk

    5 years ago

    Shouldn’t they have let Joc win tho if he was going to their rival?

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    • macstruts

      5 years ago

      No. The Less Pederson is owed, the more value he has.

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      • TrumpisMyGawd

        5 years ago

        Not if you’re Mrs. Pederson!!

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        • bballblk

          5 years ago

          But they already agreed to a trade for him…

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        • MrAngelFan

          5 years ago

          @bballblk It could all be walked back. It was all predicated on the Betts deal happening. I suspect the Red Sox are still motivated to move Betts and Price. They already have a Verdugo. They probably need some minor changes to make it work. I do not see another team willing to take half of Price and Betts, which is $43M in added payroll. The Dodgers are the only fit, so I believe it will happen eventually.

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  29. Deleted Userrr

    5 years ago

    “Defeat”

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  30. OCTraveler

    5 years ago

    Arbitration is bad for baseball. It immediately sets an adversarial relationship between the team and the player that often carries into the season. A simple solution would be to rather have a slotted pay scale based on years of service and include performance thresholds to increase annual compensation.

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  31. danlwebb5

    5 years ago

    This was a horrible trade for the Dodgers.

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  32. holycow16

    5 years ago

    Go Cubs Go

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  33. Dodgerblog

    5 years ago

    I will miss Joc. Even though he can’t hit lefties he was still a team home run leader. Bad deal for him. I don’t like losing him

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