The Red Sox have been linked to various permutations of trades involving Padres outfielder Wil Myers this offseason — including as recently as last week. However, Alex Speier of the Boston Globe now reports that the two sides are “unlikely” to line up on an agreement. The Red Sox’ interest in working out a trade was largely a means of attempting to purchase some minor league and/or controllable MLB talent by absorbing part of the remaining three years and $61MM on Myers’ contract.
It’s not a surprise to see the Red Sox seeking creative ways to bolster their farm and their stock of MLB-ready rotation options. Boston’s farm landed 22nd of 30 in Baseball America’s February ranking of the game’s best minor league systems, and the back of their rotation looks perilously thin. Beyond Chris Sale, Eduardo Rodriguez and Nathan Eovaldi, the Red Sox will likely rely on reclamation project Martin Perez and an unproven internal option (or options).
Among the candidates vying for the fifth starter’s job are Hector Velazquez, Matt Hall, Chris Mazza, Mike Shawaryn, Ryan Weber and Kyle Hart. A clear winner might not be declared, as the Sox could shuffle a number of names through that spot or even deploy an opener every fifth day. And, of course, Sale and Eovaldi were far from 100 percent healthy in 2019. The added depth such a move would bring about would be particularly valuable in Boston.
As for the Padres, while it’s logical that they’d want to get out from some of the remaining Myers money, Speier indicates that the club isn’t interested in depleting its depth just to save money at this time. Shipping a Cal Quantrill or Joey Lucchesi to Boston thins out their starting depth, and there’s no real means of improving the roster quality right now outside of an additional trade. Bringing a third club into the mix — as has been previously rumored — would give the Padres more options but obviously comes with additional layers of complexity. With Opening Day just one month away, the time to put together a deal of that magnitude is waning. (Not that Opening Day is a deadline, per se, but notable trades early in the regular season are a rarity.)
Even if Myers remains in San Diego to begin the season, rumors centering around the former Rookie of the Year will surely persist into the summer. The Padres’ outfield will consist of Tommy Pham, Trent Grisham and Franchy Cordero. Myers, Josh Naylor and non-roster invitee Juan Lagares are on hand as additional options, and the club also has yet-to-debut outfielders Edward Olivares and Jorge Ona on the 40-man roster — though neither has played above Double-A. The outfield has been something of a revolving door in San Diego over the past couple of seasons, but the team’s depth remains strong, and Myers is very arguably superfluous — particularly given his significant salary.
With the Friars set to open the year at a club-record $153MM payroll, it stands to reason that a successful jettison of even part of Myers’ salary would give general manager A.J. Preller additional room to improve the club this summer and to make further additions next offseason. As evidenced by the apparently unproductive talks with the Red Sox and the lack of success in prior efforts to deal Myers, however, bringing that idea into actuality is a rather challenging task.
This is what is killing baseball. These asinine guaranteed contracts. Contracts like the one to Stanton is killing the Yankees. Hes hurt again
Nothing is “killing baseball”, even remotely. The article before this is about how the Braves made a record profit last year.
Nothing, I repeat, nothing, is “killing” baseball – the only thing being killed here is certain fans overuse of hyperbole and pulling phony narratives out of thin air.
this
A take from strike 4 I can get behind. And using stanton as an example of killing a 700 M rev franchise is well, that’s different.
S4 lands another logic bomb
No, he’s full of speculation and misinformation in his posts quite often, But what else is new, the ignorant and worse usually garner as many or more upvotes as sensible and decent commenters all over the internet.
Wrong
@sn0048 They’re called “takes” and that’s all every comment on this site will ever be. You can agree by upvoting or disagree by presenting your take on the topic, but at the end of the day it means nothing.
This is not journalism.
You do the same which you’ve called others out for.. One example – you stated that McGwire didn’t use PED’s in 1993-1994. How could you possibly know? Players have down years.. Why assume McGwire stopped using?
@Strike Four you are probably right, because not even cheating kills baseball, apparently you cAn do what you want and baseball gets away with it. People will just continue to throw money at it
That’s not killing the game. The Shift is killing the game.
It changes the way the game is played. If Ted Williams couldn’t hit the ball the other way against pitchers throwing in the 80s, what chance do most of today’s players have where pitchers throw in the mid 90s.
So, if you can’t go the other way, and if you can’t go through the shift, you have to go over the shift. And that makes a very boring game.
Six of the top eight shifting teams made the playoffs. It’s going to get worse before it gets better and it’s already awful.
Generations will adapt
The shift isn’t “killing the game” either, but I do think it should be against the rules to put 3 of the 4 infielders on one side of 2B. At least make the SS stand to right of 2B then run over towards the 1B/RF area after the ball leaves the pitchers hand.
wrong guy to use for your false narrative.
guy was one of the best hitters of all time, even with teams shifting against him.
it’s called evolve or die (oh wait, i forgot. the boomers on here who whine about baseball don’t believe in evolution. turns out, it’s actually real, can’t just go POOF!!! and magically everything has changed into the way you folks want it).
@mfm420 … Why do you hate your parents?
It’s not Ted Williams “couldn’t” hit the other way. He was stubborn in that he was going to show them all he was Ted Freakin Williams and the shift won’t work because he would hit it over or through the shift. Notice it didn’t catch on with a lot of other teams using it against him outside of Lou Boudreau’s Indians, like it has with other players/teams. today. Hitters have to make the adjustment to get the defense out of the shift either by hitting the other way (hardly taught today like it used to be) or like Williams, over and through it. Since nobody today can hit like Williams and they’re not hitting the other way, you see the results.
Agree 100%
Well, the commisioner might be killing the spirit a little bit.
Except that same article said their profit was down $40 million over the previous year.
$40 MM is hardly a big deal for such an organization. What were their gross revenues?
A list of things that have been said to be “killing baseball.”
1. Television
2. Guaranteed, long-term contracts
3. Ticket prices
4. Pace of play
5. Millennial attention spans
6. Artificial turf
7. Free agency
8. Arbitration
And yet the pie gets larger.
Agree on most, but have to mention 1 thing.. Was a time during late 70’s thru much of 80’s when over half the NL stadiums were known as “cookie cutters”. They were all pretty much the same! Phony grass, same dimensions, wide open and overbearingly hot for players on the field.
Pittsburgh (3 rivers)
Philly
St Louie (busch)
san Diego (think was jack murphy then)
Cinci (riverfront)
Off top of my head were NL stadiums look exactly alike from playing field perspective.. Throw in the phony grass as well.
ONLY 2 stadiums that were close to being original during that time, was Wrigley and the old “launching pad” in Atlanta.
San Diego never had “phony grass.” It (The Murph) was also a football stadium. Still is.
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If the astros didn’t kill baseball nothing will
@ Strike Four – Accounting 101 for you. Revenue is not the same thing as profit. The Braves has record revenue (total money taken in), not record profit. In fact their profits were down year over year. Also, very good to see Atlanta spending more this year too, which will once again result in lower profits most likely.
@ Dorothy- well his avatar is an “anti” fascist symbol, so what do you expect? their understanding of economics (and reality) is laughable. still, even a broken clock is right twice a day, and i agree with most of his initial assessment.
Most of those clowns can’t even define “fascism.” Seriously, they can’t.
Revenue, not profit. Vast difference. Vast, vast, vast. How in the world did that get 20 likes?
The problem isn’t that the shift is killing the game, it’s that the shift is one of many things killing the game. And for the guy pointing to the braves revenue last year that is an ignorant statement. One of the many things killing the game is that kind of thought. Trying like hell to find evidence the game is thriving so therefore ignoring the glaringly obvious downward trends in viewership and general excitement level. I am a lifelong redsox fan who used to obsess over them practically but I don’t know a single person I can talk to that likes to talk about last nights game or even knows the roster. I live In MASSACHUSETTS! But the thing is also, I can’t watch the game in its entirety or even half of it. Sox yanks games were must see tv living on every pitch and losing felt like the sky was falling. Not anymore. The shift, the time between pitches, bloated contracts, lack of in the lines action, the coddling of players especially pitchers creating a lack of respect and love for them. And on and on
The shift s not an issue any more than a zone in B-ball, hockey or FB. Ten years from now, every LH minor league hitter will be able to drop a bunt down the LF line. That’ll kill the shift.
IRT the NYY/RS, I wonder if this has anything to do with them not being the center of the universe any more.. Once upon a time, it was the NYY, the RS, and an unknown team from the LAC and ALW.
And they need a pitch clock with 9 timeouts. My HS team from here in The Bronx, doesn’t even huddle. If a HS FB team can get the signal from the sidelines, relay it the rest of the offense, get to the line, and get a play off in 15-20 seconds, I refuse to believe a catcher cannot get the signal to the pitcher within 20 seconds.
But that’s what the timeouts would be for. Just like with B-ball, 5 one-minute timeouts for the manager/strategy, and 9 20-second timeouts for the catcher and pitcher to get on the same page.
Strike 4 – Killing the ability of many fans too attend games!!!!’ If you disagree, you are clueless and do not understand personal finance!!!!!!
Strike 4 is clueless on financial. What a moron!!!!!!!!!!!!’
and yet, if salaries go down, what on earth makes you think prices will go down?
cause yeah, since when has any business decided “you know what? let’s pay people nothing while lowering prices to reflect that”.
oh wait, that’s never happened.
put on a full salary cap, enjoy seeing ticket prices remain far too high for you to go to a game (but… but… the economy is doing so well, you should be able to go. what are you doing wrong that you can’t afford to go? it must be your fault).
The players should not agree to a new agreement that includes a luxury tax. The luxury tax sucks because only a handful of owners are really wanting to spend to win.
Crappy owners like the Royals and Marlins don’t want to spend…then sell the dang team.
Can sell and re-sell the teams without enough of a base and it will not fix the issue that there are too many teams and several just need eliminating, which have said many times over the years.
I can see extending some kind of financial (only) support up to like 2-3y before a team is forced to disband and players are put into a draft and become eligible to be picked up by other teams.
MLB players are no different that employees of companies who lose jobs, by that mean those that lose employment status with a failed ballclub. Should a Oakland, TB, Miami etc.. Be disbanded, then those left are on their own to find employment within the industry if they can.
Leagues, divisions can be redrawn each season, it’s not all that difficult. better than wasting travel and support on franchises that are yearly on the dole.
Oh you want something with less hyperbole, gotcha; I’ll go with the inability/interest of America’s ‘baseball-playing youth’ in sitting thru 3.5 hrs of TV games that have no controllers. Those are kids who enjoy baseball and play baseball. Of course my kids are different
Btw, Joe makes a good point you condescending tool
Stanton hurts the Yankees in no way. They signed Gerrit Cole just fine and knew the risks of trading for a guy who was under team control for a ridiculous amount of years. Myers contract sucks but not as much as Hosmer or Machados.
Thumbs up. Hosmer’s contract is brutal. Machado’s isn’t worse, yet.
LOL
Contracts aren’t killing baseball, it’s doing just fine financially. However, when our grandfathers stop watching on tv, baseball will die if they don’t do anything with pace of play and time of game. The absolute last thing most kids care about these days is baseball
It’s a stupid contract but far from killing baseball. It will barely slow the Yankees down from getting other players.
The real problem is teams that are openly tanking and not spending money for FA”s or their own players, while trying to scrape up a team with duct tape and get lucky once in a blue moon.
And teams like the Indians, Rays, A’s, and Blue Jays who can sometimes compete with the big dogs, many of whom have been better than Yanks/Sox/Astros but they refuse to spend extra to get over the edge.
Go ahead Joegio, parrot owners’ talking points. Side with the billionaires over the millionaires.
People don’t really think in depth making these comments. If they take on a system like the NFL the sports popularity will take a dive. Many fans just like us like free agency, trade rumors, trades, judging and having an opinion on roster construction. You want to sit around and take about how much the cap hit is if a player is released? The system seems really strong to me. There’s parity and even though some teams can spend more we’re clearly seeing the deterrent of the luxury tax threshold. Some teams manage it better than others. Some teams can obviously afford to take more gambles but that hasn’t exactly guaranteed anything. You want teams to be able to just say oops and walk away? I guess I’d prefer players make a little more via arbitration and a little less in free agency but if a team wants to buck up on a player let them get that player and the risk/reward that comes with it. I honestly think the payroll dump trades only add to the interest and wide open possibilities of trades. Stop guaranteeing contracts you won’t be commenting on a rumors site because movement will slow down to a crawl just look at the NFL
Baseball isn’t dying or anywhere close to it. Guaranteed contracts may be killing you because you’re jealous of what these talented players are making. But they aren’t killing baseball. At least the Myers contract can be justified due to the fact that he was young at the time and had recently been a top prospect. But the Hosmer contract was just plain stupid, giving big bucks to an average player playing the easiest position to fill.
Not surprised Meyers stinks
So does your spelling
Lol
and based off of the username, I’m not surprised.
Yeah, but Wil Myers was not good last year.
Thanks for the news flash, no one on this site knew that.
You know what they say? the brown stuff rolls up hill. It ends up in LA.
I’d like to see the pirates take him, since they have around 0 dollars in payroll and could use a prospect or 2
Really perfect match right there. Great idea.
Me too. Get creative with payroll, use that flexibility. They never will.
Yep that’s exactly what a rebuilding/tanking team needs. Wil Myers.
So you must have read “I’d like to see the Pirates take him” and just stopped reading right there?
I could see this happening but taking a few months. I think Bucs will move Bell before the deadline. I think they could grab Myers and some prospects from the Padres and play Myers at 1b.
I’ve always liked this idea and have to ignore the payroll constraints. Assuming Padres top 4 prospects were off limits, I wonder what the Pirates could get if they could take on half or 2/3 of Myers contract. I’ll throw out Campusano, Castillo,and Rosario for 2/3 of the salary and see what people think.
Really? Wow, what a shocker.
Did anyone actually believe any part of this rumor?
Good! Myers pronked today so he’s going to have a great season! In all seriousness, I’m glad we didn’t make any trade and attach prospects simply to move Myers. I think he’s going to bounce back w a 3+ WAR season. He’s a good player w some emotional issues that were attributed to Andy “Punk’d by old man Roberts”Green. Arias, Campusano, Quantrill, Lucchessi are too valuable to pawn off a guy who still has potential.
Myers won’t get enough playing time to get to 3 WAR.
He’s also had 3.5 WAR one time in 7 seasons, so, a breakout seems unlikely.
Now S4 has a crystal ball ….
lmao
Myers, huge year ahead!
It’s the annual “Wil Myers is going to have a breakout season” post.
Still waiting. Actually, still waiting for him to just be decent.
Hey, it could happen! The guy is still young and is very athletic w more than two decent seasons under his belt
He’s a .240 hitter with exactly 2 seasons of 20+ HRs and he’s a K-machine. And his defense? Also below average.
Good.
PEDs cause damage to your body with prolonged use, n all these injuries keep occurring. I remember Mark Maguire having all these injuries, long term use of steroids damages body. This is why patients are limited as to how long n how much you give a patient.
Give it a rest
Dynamite a bit touchy!
Learn to spell players names and also learn history: McGwire missed two full seasons (93 & 94) because he -wasn’t- juicing. He used them after those years to stay healthy, which he did, and broke records.
When players don’t juice, they often end up like Ken Griffey Jr. – which I guess is what you are arguing for here? But then you will complain baseball is dying because you went to see his team play and some AAAA scrub was playing instead. So what would you rather?
ESPN’s decade-plus long propaganda campaign about PEDs in MLB really broke so many fans brains. Players staying healthy should be the only thing that matters and they should be allowed to use whatever they want to to stay healthy.
it’s more than just being healthy. I’ve had teammates juice in their final seasons of draft eligibility and wow. the problem isn’t professionals juicing for your entertainment. it’s the trickle down effect. my former teammates were college kids hoping to get drafted. felt they had to to compete. it’s really bad at the hs level. I don’t want to feel like my sons will have to juice to have a shot at the bigs. No one should. I’m certainly not encouraging my boys to play football on a truly competitive level and I would have 35 years ago. a game I loved changed for the worse cause peds are encouraged
Couldn’t disagree more. I’m not interested in watching freaks play ball, only to die in their 40’s and 50’s. Pro wrestling has disposed of many a person in just this way. A big whiff there K4.
A sports network such as ESPN doesn’t benefit from anti-PED propaganda, as you put it.
They don’t want to discuss anything else that devalues sports unless forced to. It goes against their best interests.
But it’s the type of subject they will continue to discuss if there’s a serious issue at hand.
Strikefour, seems like i struck a nerve that someone is so nit picking over spelling of a players name I did not like or watch.
Love your take on the PEDs Strike Four. “Broke so many fans brains” is a great way to put it. For example, here we’ve got a guy posting about McGwire and steroids, which has absolutely nothing to do with this article about Myers and the Red Sox.
Asking for everyone here, can you also at least stay on topic for each article… this comment is beyond irrelevant here
Thumbs way up.
McGwire’s injuries were nearly all muscle pulls and strains. When you bulk up, you lose flexibility.
I still think JBJ is on the move. They aren’t done yet.
I seriously don’t understand why he is still on the team. They should’ve unloaded him years ago
No one really cares what you think.
I’m not surprised Bloom couldn’t get it done, a shame, but it could be teams know the RS after good prospects n just won’t give it.
Couldn’t get what done? Do you know what the Padres were offering and/or wanted in return? Unless the Red Sox are getting a couple top 100 prospects they are better off letting the Padres keep that overpaid clubhouse cancer.
And it was going to take at least Lux and May for the Dodgers to pry Betts away from Boston. Except it took a whole lot less. Without Betts going back to SD, I doubt SD will even be willing to send just Campusano to Boston anymore.
Is there any reason why the Red Sox haven’t brought Buchholz back on a minor league deal with a spring training invite? Heck even on a major league deal at minimum salary? I mean I realise he was bad/injured last year but that list of options for the 5th starters role doesn’t exactly inspire confidence. Considering the fact that they’re still allegedly trying to win this year, you’d have to think they’d rather have him than someone like Chris Mazza.
That’s their lost
Orioles
Royals
Rangers
Tigers
Rockies
All these teams could stick Myers at 1st and ask for quantity prospects that are mlb ready or near mlb ready.
Starts with 1 good/great prospect like Morejon
You toss in players like Bolanos (SP), Baez (SP/RP), Wingenter or Reyes (RP), and a prospect like Arias or Miller (ss/2b/3b).
Padres pen is pretty much set with Yates Pomeranz Stammen Strahm Castillo Munoz Johnson Perdomo Reyes or Wingenter (whoever they keep).
If the team is willing to take Myers entire contract it’d cost prospects, but you’d clear the books for an addition in 2021 and beyond.
I know some wouldn’t like this trade But
Mariners need Corner OF (have DH spot)
Padres need 2nd / CF
Will Myers + Prospect for Dee Gordon (I know PED Cheater)
But this trade helps both teams
Well if teams keep giving out stupid long term deals like 9 years to Cole, 10 years to Machado, 13 years to Harper… heck even 12 years to Trout, that is what is not good for baseball…. but its the teams choice
That’s what happens when you keep trying to get every team’s best player in the trade.
Preller is destroying that franchise. Its been nothing but trades and non sensical signings. Everyone around the league doing extensions lets give Wil Myers one. Lets give Hosmer an over market deal even though no one else is bidding. Lets give Machado 300 million even though we’re still years from making the playoffs. You can at me all you want, Preller is a garbage GM always has been always will be. I feel sorry for San Diego fans. He’s gotten lucky with a few trades so hopefully those players will be with the team long after AJ.
Padres OF was awful last year. So what does preller do? Gets a whole new OF with Grisham and Pham.
Padres are gonna lose Yates next off season as they can’t find ground on an extension. What does preller do? Signs Pomeranz so when Munoz gets moved to closer it’s not gonna hurt as much when Yates leaves.
Hosmer and Kemp were ownership. They pushed for those deals.
He got a stop gap in profar and Dozier until Quiroz Vosler Miller Arias Abrams is ready for the mlb.
Proof that it was ownership that pushed for Hosmer and Kemp?
There is no proof. That is the primary argument to defend Preller.
Proof is the deals that were made.
A declining matt kemp for yasmani grandal and Zach eflin.
8 years for hosmer.
Preller didn’t green light those deals. Ownership had to have the final ok.
Preller goes to the Padres ownership and says we are going to give up a young catcher/OF and a top 100 pitching prospect for a declining 31 year old OF.
He goes to ownership and says I really wanna give hosmer 8 years and 144 when other teams are saying 7 years and Padres already had Myers on an extension at 1st. Plus royals, his former team, rejected 130 mill offer.
From 2016-2019 preller has hoarded his prospects. Ownership has mandated padres take a step forward which is why trades have been abundant for the padres this off-season.
A gm that has a history of hoarding talent is gonna give some up for Matt kemp? Not a chance unless ownership meddled.
A gm is gonna committ 144 to 1B when 1B already had what 72 mill invested? Not a chance unless ownership meddled.
History says when preller run things he accumulates talent and builds the farm. When ownership says we need to push 2015 happens and 2020 happens.
A gm that has a history of hoarding talent is gonna give some up for Matt kemp? Not a chance unless ownership meddled.
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I don’t care for the logic. There is just as much logic in assuming that Preller thought all he needed was a big middle of the order bat to get them into the playoffs. Especially since they finished 2nd in ERA and last in RPG.
Secondly, it allows fans to blame the owners for all the bad moves, and gives the GM all the credit for the good moves, and vice versa.
@All American Johnsonville Dogs I asked for proof, not speculation.
Adding on, was he hoarding talent when he traded Trea Turner, Max Fried, Luis Urias and Xavier Edwards?
Padres OF was awful last year? Not even. The team couldn’t score runs, but that’s not on the OF.
Grisham? Pham? Please.
As Padres Fan I actually like Renfroe for Pham trade (helped both Teams, both players fit teams traded for them better or Trading for Profar
Other 2 trades I didn’t so much understand (Trade Starting CF and 2nd baseman with having plan who’s going to replace them)
Preller keeps trying to sign Face of Franchise
Will Myers was suppose to be that (there only MLB marketed player (2nd was Chase Headley) Myers doesn’t develop wasn’t as marketable as Padres were hoping (Padres Slightly Over paid at the time)
Head into next off season needing Star to tell ticket, Merch, Buzz, overall Marketability plus needed High level Vet leadership, understanding of how to develop winning (Hosmer showed in KC he could be that type of player Padres Over Paid)
Again Hosmer doesn’t live up to what Padres wanted so Padres going into last off-season again looking for Face of Franchise (marketable face for advertising, charity events, Ticket sale, Merch sales, overall The Guy) go after player who just played in World Series was seen as Top 50 MLB player someone who could be leader or mentor for young players (like Tatis) get Machado (might have overpaid)
Still don’t think Preller is going best job
Sox brass are giving us no reason to tune in in 2020.
This article states that it’s not a surprise to see the Red Sox seeking creative ways to bolster their farm because their farm landed 22nd of 30 in Baseball America’s February ranking of the game’s best minor league systems. Lol bologna!
Don’t beat around the bush, Boston is trying load up on prospects because they know they got cought cheating just like the Astros and their #1,#2 draft picks will be taken in back-to-back years as soon as MLB finalizes the investigation.
I honestly do not know why the Red Sox are following the Cubs lead in crying poor while being the biggest money teams in MLB.
If this was 10 years ago, Boston would happily eat that Myers contract and immediately DFA him if it meant getting Morejon or any of SD’s top 10 prospects. What’s changed? Owner greediness?
No they wouldn’t of, 10 years ago they would of instead used that money on the International Market. The international spending limits are what lead to teams willing to “buy” prospects through absorbing unwanted contracts. But that wasn’t happening 10 years ago.
It’s not about crying poor or not having money, it’s about the more consecutive years you surpass the luxury threshhold, you pay a higher percentage AND you lose draft picks.
You don’t lose draft picks. IF you exceed the highest level of the CBT ceiling (which I believe is $245M), your draft position drops 10 spots. You can exceed the $208M for 10 straight years but your draft position is not affected unless you exceed the highest level.
Think strike floor is dinking 2 mush. Red Sox are gonna drop 60 mil to cut a guy so they can have a non top 100 prospect….huh ??
Boston wants patino or abrams. If u take on will no thrill Myers u best get a sure fire player.
Boston didn’t even get a sure fire prospect in return for MOOKIE BETTS and David Price at half price. I doubt the Sox could even get Campusano for just Myers. But that is fine. The trade is not going to happen.
Higher corporate profits, lower taxes, they just want more.
Call Farhan about a month into the season and see what it would take for the Giants to take Myers, depends on cash and prospects obviously but they might listen 🙂
Trade him for Stanton. Yanks would even kick in half.
I’m curious on what SD would expect out of a package for a player such as CJ Abrams and Wil Meyers.
They will not trade Abrams.
Myers is going to be the comeback player of the year. I think everyone is giving up on him too soon.
I don’t think he’ll be worse. But, 2019 K rate was staggering! With that being said, I would love the Tigs to be bold and pull the trigger, especially if it comes with a mid-top level prospect.
I agree, he could be a player to watch.
You’re smoked.How many times do you have bang you’re head against the wall to realize it’s the reason bleeding. DFA that cocksucker. Send him to cuddle up with his ass pirate friend on fortnight.
The Red Sox are dead on arrival this year with no bullpen help and no 4th or 5th starter. Their rotation has pitchers who cannot stay healthy! This management Bloom and Henry have done both to make this team better this year. I think Bloom will be fired in two years.
I’m not ready to blame any of this on Bloom yet. I really wonder if Bloom had known ahead of time about the upcoming Cora cheating issue (and ouster) along with the ‘mandate’ to get under the CBT threshold if he even would have taken this job. He was really put in a no-win situation and it’s going to take a couple of years to get out of it. If you ask me, the owners are to blame for the mess the Red Sox are in right now and they’re positioning Bloom to be their fall guy if it all goes to hell.
It was common knowledge at the time of Dombrowski’s firing that getting under the luxury tax was a priority for the incoming GM. Bloom wasn’t blindsided by this news. He is not a potential victim. Bloom came in with both eyes open.
Bloom has done amazing work.
Getting below the $208M Luxury Tax Threshold.
Getting rid of half Price.
Getting 3 prospects for Betts.
Was anyone seriously expecting Price to have a great 2020?
Was anyone seriously expecting Betts to stay in Boston after 2020?
Boston had NO FINANCIAL ROOM to pick up a SP before those moves. Now they do.
The Rangers should reach out to SD on Myers. See if they’d be willing to do a bad contract flip with Odor. Maybe SD would be willing to include a guys like Owen Miller and Hudson Head.
The goal for SD is to reduce payroll substantially, not to trade their bad contract for another one. The only way SD would take on Odor’s deal would be if Texas is willing to take back 2X of Odor’s remaining salary (maybe Hosmer + would do it).
SD still cuts out 30M in this deal. When you have a team that could be making a big mid season move, that’s substantial. SD is dreaming if they think they’re getting rid of Hosmer for a guy like Odor.
SD never suggested including Hosmer, Dorothy-Mantooth did. He is correct however. SD has no interest in taking on one of the only maybe 3 players in mlb with worse numbers than Myers.
I sort of agree. @mantooth. But if you can’t find someone to lower your payroll, you might as well find a bad-contract-for-bad-contract trade if the incoming player somewhat fills a need on your roster, like a Darvish.
By far the best move for the Padres is to keep Myers and hope he returns to his 20/20 ways. He has negative value now but he’s still only 29.
He can only return to 20/20 if he plays a full season. With Cordero & Naylor there, you could make an argument for -0- ABs.
Myers could be a great 6th outfielder. I’m excited for this season.
Yea sure.
$16 M per year for 3 more years and no place to put Myers?
There goes their money for a SP.
If I were going to consider keeping and extra OF I would just keep JBJ, whom I recommend they trade or release, so why would I want Myers? JDM can play the outfield let’s not forget.
Boston needs 1 more SP rather than an OF.
I don’t see any free agent SP available right now anyway SG. Besides, Boston would be asking for an SP in return for taking Myers. But hey, feel free to complain.
Padres: 2020 Spring Training Champions!
We were second in the Cactus League last year. Just sayin’ ….
So, a deal isn’t likely.
Be sure to visit this site to get the details of the trade on Friday.
Thank God the Red Sox aren’t going after Myers.
So, let’s see:
Stanton is killing the Yankees
Preller is killing the Padres.
Guaranteed contracts are killing baseball.
Cheating is killing the game.
PED’s would kill the game.
The Shift is killing baseball.
The Commish is killing our spirit.
Radio broadcasts would kill attendance.
TV would kill attendance.
The lively ball would kill baseball.
The home run killed baseball.
The Reserve Clause killed baseball.
Eliminating the Reserve Clause would kill baseball.
Paying them thar Cincinnati Red Stockings would shorely kill off base ball.
This Baseball sure is one lively corpse.
Now if you’re talking OJ and killing, well then.
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You forgot Pete Rose wants to be reinstated.
And ARod is marrying JLo.
LOL
If the Padres are smart, Myers will start in RF daily until the ASG so they can build value and hopefully get him traded. BUT then, no one can accuse Preller of being smart.
Seems more often than not he does the exact opposite of what he should do.
Who plays CF?
What is this love affair with Myers? Why would anyone want him or his albatross contract?
Dude, you have to read the article. SD is trying to dump him, not keep him. It’s obviously a bad contract.
Weak article by Speiers. His argument is that, because the SDP were willing to spend money on Betts, then money is not a concern. That kind of ignores the fact that the two players aren’t remotely on the same skill level.
The second thing he is missing is that JBJ is rumored to be in the deal. Having Grisham-JBJ-Pham as your OF is far superior to Grisham-Myers-Pham. And that doesn’t include the $33M that SD saves over the next three years.
Quantrill, imho, is a reasonable price to pay for a decent improvement in 2020, plus $33M.
PADRES record payroll and the owner wants to win 82. We trade for Pham with a bad elbow….not even on field yet. Better keep Willie Myers. What a joke. Boycott Petco!
you basically say the same thing in every padres thread.
There won’t likely be any games played in front of people in 2020.
Due to the Corona virus.
Maybe they’ll cancel the season?
Who knows?
Olympics cancelled?
Japanese baseball plays to empty stands?
With MLB ticket prices so expensive many teams already play to empty stands.
Yet players keep getting more and more.
Crazy times we live in.