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NL West Notes: Giants, Espinoza, Rockies

By Steve Adams | April 20, 2020 at 12:48pm CDT

Much of the focus on the trade that sent right-hander Mark Melancon from the Giants to the Braves last July has centered on the surprising fact that the Braves were willing to take on all of the $14MM owed to Melancon in 2020. So much so, it seems, that the return the Giants received is often entirely overlooked. Alex Pavlovic of NBC Sports Bay Area writes, however, that the Giants are excited by the potential of righty Tristan Beck — a 23-year-old fourth rounder from the 2018 draft who saw his velocity trend upward during his run in the Arizona Fall League this year. Beck posted an ugly ERA (5.65) but encouraging FIP/xFIP numbers (3.04, 2.89) in eight starts with Atlanta’s Class-A Advanced affiliate. In the same number of innings with the Giants’ High-A club, Beck’s ERA dropped to 2.27 as he maintained sharp K/9 and BB/9 marks that carried into the fall league. Baseball America ranked Beck 14th among Giants prospects and called him a potential fourth starter, noting that his new organization’s decision to shift his four-seam focus to the top of the zone has improved his overall effectiveness.

A bit more from the division…

  • Padres prospect Anderson Espinoza had been eyeing a summer return from last April’s Tommy John surgery, writes Dennis Lin of The Athletic in his latest reader mailbag. His timeline is now TBD, and the leaguewide stoppage has created the risk that he’ll miss an incredible fourth straight season of games. Still just 22 years of age, Espinoza was considered to be one of baseball’s premier minor league arms when the Red Sox shipped him to San Diego in return for a year and a half of Drew Pomeranz. But he’s twice undergone Tommy John surgery — most recently late last April — and now represents something of a wild card in a deep Padres farm system. His last appearance in a minor league game came back on Aug. 31, 2016.
  • Although no one quite knows what the draft will look like, Rockies scouting director Bill Schmidt is confident that his club is prepared and ready whenever the date does roll around, per Kyle Newman of the Denver Post. Rox scout Jay Matthews expressed to Newman that the ability to connect with players will be all the more crucial this year, as nondrafted players will be capped at just $20K signing bonuses. “Since we’re all going to be under the same money figure for free agents, it’s going to come down to relationships that the area scouts have established with the prospects,” said Matthews, likening this year’s atypical signing process for undrafted players to the college recruiting process. Newman points out that the Rockies have trended toward college players in recent drafts, with a particular emphasis on pitching. Colorado will have three of the first 46 picks in the draft — whatever form it takes.
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38 Comments

  1. DarkSide830

    5 years ago

    the Gaints should have held on to Winkler

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    • rightyspecialist

      5 years ago

      The Giants Lol

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      • PutPeteRoseInTheHall

        5 years ago

        shut up

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      • scottn59c

        5 years ago

        Seriously! Just STFU.

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  2. stephaniebpetagno

    5 years ago

    Almost as if the Giants know what they are doing, although homer beat guys are gonna homer beat guy.

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    • Kapler's Coconut Oil

      5 years ago

      Who are you trying to attack? By homer beat guys are you referring to the Giants beat writers or the Braves? Because the Giants beat writers are often defending Zaidi and the FO fairly frequently

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      • arc89

        5 years ago

        If you look at Beck’s stats I wouldn’t call him a top, prospect unless he learned a new great pitch. he will be almost 24 and pitching in high A ball. The jump to AA is big. I think more is that the Giants rank him as 14th in their system says they have a lot of marginal prospects.

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        • statman

          5 years ago

          Giants farm system was rated 10th overall in MLB in last ranking I’ve seen … most publications have their system anywhere from 10-15 so their prospects are now very legit.

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      • rightyspecialist

        5 years ago

        Schulman, Baggarly, Pavlovic. These are some of the worst baseball writers in the country.
        I’m a Yankee fan that currently resides in the Bay Area for work reasons. I’m spoiled by the sharp, accurate reporting of the east coast. New York, DC, Boston baseball writers hold teams accountable. They don’t regurgitate front office talking points.
        These Bay Area writers are clowns. Straight up HOMERS The lack of critical journalism is just staggering.
        The San Francisco Giants Just booked their 3rd consecutive losing season and are about to embark on their 4th…The franchise is a mess and has been a mess for several years
        That doesn’t fly on the east coast. If Cashman booked a 98 loss season with a 200 million dollar payroll like Sabean / Evans did in 2017 , he would have been fired!

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        • talking baseball

          5 years ago

          Really Mr. Yanker,
          How about you ask your company to send you back to the east coast where you belong. Yankees, Yankees, Yankees, when was the last time they won anything ?
          Yankees, Dodgers, two brides maids, always left standing at the alter. Go back to N.Y.,Yankee boy !!!!!

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        • rightyspecialist

          5 years ago

          Unlike the Giants , The Yankees field a competitive team. We win plenty of games .lol
          please tell me you’re not referring to institutional championships or waiving the ‘3 n 5’ flag. lol . because that stuff is tired and it occured a half a decade ago
          As far as institutional success or championships, no team has more championships than the New York Yankees .

          Wow , Typical Overly sensitive, Birkenstock wearing , Garlic frie eat’n , too many cats in the house Giants fan .

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        • WarrenSpahn

          5 years ago

          and even worse is when we have to listen to Krukow, the ultimate homer announcer…

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    • claude raymond

      5 years ago

      So stephanie, what defines a “homer beat guy”? Is a beat writer (eg Pavlovic) supposed to write about non-prospects? Does he write that prospectus writer Keith Law (not a beat guy) ranks the giants in the top 10 regarding prospects (before zaidi they were bottom 10 tho Bart and Ramos are from the previous regime) or does the beat writer talk about fading prospects?

      What defines a homer beat writer? Is homer beat writer redundant? If the beat writer is critical like you want them to be, do they become an ex-beat writer? Do fans want to NOT have hope? Does that sell papers/subscriptions?

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      • wild bill tetley

        5 years ago

        If Keith Law says it, then it can’t be true.

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        • claude raymond

          5 years ago

          True or not, the point is he’s not a beat writer.

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        • wild bill tetley

          5 years ago

          Your point was to use an awful judge of baseball talent with a track record to prove it just to back up some convoluted argument.

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      • SFGiants4ever

        5 years ago

        Claude, just going to hit on one point you made. Eight of the top 10 ranked prospects in the system were drafted or signed before Zaidi got there.
        Rightyspecialbus, as usual your ignorant takes are here to try and upset us. You sound like a teenager with your weak takes, but if your story is true that you have a job, I don’t imagine you to be to old and therefore haven’t been around for many of your favorite teams championships. Let me clue you in when the Giants won those 3 championships you are referring to they weren’t picked to win, heck even the local writers didnt give then much of a chance to win in 10′ but most of us Giants fans are optimistic when it comes to our favorite team. Doesn’t mean we can’t be realistic as well, but we’re going to enjoy the articles written one way or the other and we’ll watch and see what happens on the field. I know many yank fans, and I know what a bunch a whiners you all can be when you can’t buy a championship, so you want to try and take it out on us SF fans every time an article is written about the Giants. Don’t worry we get it, we all think you’re a loser and you have nothing worth saying to add to the conversation anyway. Since you don’t like hearing about 2010,12, and 14 here is another way to see things your team has won just as many championships since 2015 as the Giants have.

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  3. Afk711

    5 years ago

    That first sentence was a major surprise last deadline. No money for Donaldson but is there a mediocre reliever who’s whole contract we can take??? – AA

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  4. RunDMC

    5 years ago

    I still am baffled why ATL took on Melancon’s pay and included Beck, whom he was big on when he was drafted despite his injuries. Did they see something that was a cause for concern? Almost like AA had to repay a debt to Zaidi from his Dodger days.

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    • scottn59c

      5 years ago

      It really was baffling. I think ATL thought they were getting a closer who needed a change of scenery. But Melancon was not closing for SF; Will Smith was. Melancon had looked really shaky in a number of high-pressure situations he’d been put into, and I cringed whenever I watched games where he was entrusted with a lead. The guy was never able to live up to the closer contract he signed, and that was years ago. I have no idea why ATL would have paid that contract in full and given up a decent talent in the bargain.

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      • dynamite drop in monty

        5 years ago

        I’m baffled!

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      • brandons-3

        5 years ago

        AA didn’t reinforce the bullpen (or rotation) during the previous offseason and had to upgrade the bullpen after Keuchel was miraculously still available. (Side note: The Braves were going to sign both Keuchel and Kimbrel to one-year deals before Kimbrel got a three-year offer from Chicago.)

        Melancon is an experienced, professional pitcher, something Atlanta desperately needed down the stretch. That bullpen before the deadline was terrible. AA had to completely overhaul it over the course of the season which parlayed into having to take on Melancon’s salary, which he did help stabilize it to an extent along with Greene, Martin, and Newcomb, but not $14 million worth.

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  5. baseball10

    5 years ago

    One of those trades that Braves fans knew, along with everyone else, that it wasnt good right away. Melancon was not bad by any means but it was a head scratcher

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    • scottn59c

      5 years ago

      He definitely didn’t pass the eye test as a Giant last year. And this was after a couple of seasons wasted by injury.

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  6. jdgoat

    5 years ago

    I don’t think I’d be that confident in Scherzer or Degrom being good after four straight years off. It sucks but the chances of Espinoza ever contributing seems to be very small. Hope he can come back strong though.

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  7. scottn59c

    5 years ago

    That they got anything, anything at all for Melancon’s contract other than salary relief was one of the biggest coups that Zaidi could have hoped for. Anything else is just icing on the cake.

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    • PandaExpress

      5 years ago

      No doubt was a great trade. Really I thought all the trades at the deadline were very shrewd.

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  8. bbatardo

    5 years ago

    Espinoza is lucky he is only 22. Probably the saving grace from his misfortunes.

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  9. padreforlife

    5 years ago

    Padre fans at time of trade straight up called Espinoza the next Pedro not brightest bunch

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    • lowtalker1

      5 years ago

      The experts called him the next Pedro and referred to him as little Pedro
      Thanks for playing

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      • padreforlife

        5 years ago

        The experts u mean delusional Padre fans who think every prospect is a star

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        • dynamite drop in monty

          5 years ago

          As a Sox fan I can assure you he was anointed the next coming of Pedro long before he was ever even in the discussion of a summer trade.

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        • Javia

          5 years ago

          I have to say, you don’t sound anything like a Padreforlife.

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    • MikeEmbletonSmellsBad

      5 years ago

      Learn English.

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    • mrpadre19

      5 years ago

      He was called “the next Pedro” by the Red Sox!
      I for one hated that trade.
      An All Star LH Starter should get you more than one 17 year old.
      Don’t care how good he is and I said so at the time and for this very reason.
      Would have been better to get 2-3 very good prospects rather than one great one that was 5 years away.

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  10. Angels & NL West

    5 years ago

    I’m an AA fan so I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but the Melacon trade was a head scratcher – taking on the entire $14 mil? I’m guessing AA thought they could change Melacon’s pitch mix, etc and get better results.

    Perhaps this says more about Zaidi than AA. I’m going to start keeping a closer eye on Zaidi and the Giants.

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  11. biffpocoroba

    5 years ago

    If Beck develops into a 4 or even a 5, coupled with that salary dump and their likely pitching pickups in the upcoming draft, Zaidi will have converted their pitching fortunes from overpaid albatross-status in less than three years. Shark and probably Cueto will be off the books by next offseason, and the rotation will be full of young arms to build upon.

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  12. saavedra

    5 years ago

    Anderson Espinoza was traded for two and a half years of Pomeranz, not one and a half. #TerribleDeal.

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