In addition to a trade this morning, the Giants have made a series of roster moves ahead of this afternoon’s matchup with the Dodgers (first reported by Maria Guardado of MLB.com). They’ll make a few tweaks to the pitching staff, reinstating left-hander Jarlin Garcia from the 60-day injured list and adding veteran Trevor Cahill to the taxi squad. To make room, Andrew Suarez has been optioned to the team’s alternate training site and infielder Abiatal Avelino was designated for assignment.
The Giants will rejigger their bullpen, adding Garcia, who was on the injured list with an undisclosed illness, and subtracting Suarez. Garcia, 27, will get his first shot with his new club after spending the first three years of his career with the Marlins. He emerged as a valuable lefty in Miami, notching a 4.29 ERA in 170 innings of work. He got work as both a starter and reliever, though he’s likely to settle firmly into a relief role.
Cahill, meanwhile, might be on the cusp of a promotion to the big league club, after news of Jeff Samardzija’s placement on the injured list yesterday. He figures to be one of the foremost options to replace Samardzija in the starting rotation for the foreseeable future.
Avelino, acquired in the 2018 trade that sent Andrew McCutchen to the Yankees, will see his Giants tenure come to a swift end, having appeared in just 10 games for the MLB club. The Giants will have a week to either trade, release, or place Avelino on outright waivers. At just 25 years old, and with plenty of remaining team control, Avelino could be a worthwhile pickup for a team in search of infield depth. His offensive track record in the minors is not especially strong, but his last two seasons in the upper minors have undoubtedly been his best.
Glad to see they made these impactful moves. No need to DFA Pence or Panda I am sure they will get hot soon.
The Blown no-hitter play by Pence has become a modern day classic. They just keep looping on ESPN.
I’ve seen it now probably a dozen times and it’s still entertaining.
Hunter Pence has no business being on an MLB roster. But people in Frisco love him. Giants fans are bizarre. They live in a time warp. The team has been one of the worst in baseball for the last 4 years but the fans turn a blind eye because these guys won 5-10 years ago. A bunch of kooks
Says who? Most Giants fans I know are ready for them to be released. We are loyal to all our players, but we wish they would in turn be loyal to us and know when it’s time to hang them up.
Pence, Belt and Crawford are sure outs and every Giant fan knows it.
I’m not convinced Zaidi is the guy but I will give him credit for Yaz, Dickerson, Solano and I think Dubon will be ok too. Basically Sabean and company ruined this team by giving guys like Shark, multi year contracts.
It’s hard to judge Zaidi right now when you look at the MLB ball club. He inherited a mess of big un-tradeable contracts so they couldn’t get any prospects in a fire sale. Might as well play them, get the “familiar-face fan money”, and pray they get hot enough someone will make a deal. I think pulling of the Melancon trade was nice. I never thought they’d move that one. Yaz has a been great player and story for them. Unfortunately I think it’ll be a few more seasons before it’s seen whether he’s the guy or not.
the fact that you say “frisco” means you know nothing about the bay area
What? You’re actually complaining about the term ‘Frisco’
What kind of overly sensitive weirdo freak complains about city name slang on a baseball message board.
You might want to speak to your therapist about that
The overly sensitive guy is you. You never post on any other articles. What is your real problem with the Giants? So what if they are rebuilding. It offends your delicate sensibilities for some weird reason. Every team goes through losing seasons. Why be so bitchy?
Frisco is a city in Texas, not California
People who eat cellophane-wrapped American cheese with their Spam call San Francisco ‘Frisco’
This team is just a huge piece of Horse Manure. None of these roster changes will fix that . All these little moves seem tedious and meaningless.
I wish I could argue this. They’re dreadful. NO pitching. We lead all of MLB in Runs Allowed.
We have the league leader in batting average, and leahuenleader in OPS and WAR this year. There are bright spots. Plus, at 6-8, we aren’t doing that bad. I would like to see Jaylin get an actual extended look, but Slater has looked great this season.
Seriously, these guys act like they’re 0-60 already…they’re 7-10!
Somebody obviously didn’t live through the horrific strings of seasons in the 70’s, 80’s, 90’s or 2000’s…losing seasons happen, relax
It may be a few years still, but with all the money that franchise now has command of and the people they’ve put in place in most FO positions, they’re building for more sustainable long term success
Be glad for Yaz and DonSolan
It’s sad to see Panda not take care of himself. Him and Solano are the same age, yet you can see what difference it makes when you are professional about keeping in shape. Pence has been a shadow of himself. Why we signed him after he could not take the field the last 2 months of the last season is beyond me. May as well throw Belt with this bunch too.
It’s scary to think about what Panda’s gonna look like when he’s NOT paid to do physical work and be in his current state of “shape”…and has nearly unlimited time and resources
Hoo wee
Love to see the Giants get hated on in every article even though the team had absolutely 0 expectations of contending this year and have still produced 2-3 players that will be valuable at the trade deadline. In 2022 this team will be contending.
with the farn system they have? good luck.
Top 10 farm system but ok
its a system with a lot of upside but also a lot of risk outside of Bart.
They literally have 5 top 100 prospects and they’re all considered MLB ready or close to MLB ready.
okay, time to get off the crazy train right there
There’s something called the MLB pipeline top 100 prospects list and if you look at it, you’ll see that there are 5 giants prospects on that list with ETA’s around 2022 or before. But sure DarkSide830, everything you say is correct simply because you assume so. (Corry was # 99 who they just recently knocked off)
“its a system with a lot of upside but also a lot of risk”
Isn’t that the definition of every team’s minor league system?
2022 is not “close to MLB ready.”
um, no? there are systems where you feel better about some of the prospects and how they will develop. i personally think there are a lot more higher risk guys in the Giants system.
Johnny superscout DarkSide personally believes that the Giants system is full of high risk players! He’s definitely not just talking out of his ass like he does on every article…
If compare that talent to the current SF mlb talent?
Which guys are exactly of the top 5 are higher risk and why do you feel that way?
yeah but the risk isn’t with the top players, there are a lot of high upside guys that have been picked up in little transactions but i havent heard anybody talk about riskiness with hjelle, ramos, luciano, etc
“um, no? there are systems where you feel better about some of the prospects and how they will develop. i personally think there are a lot more higher risk guys in the Giants system.”
It sounds like we live in your world then. You’re making it sound like you know more than baseball professionals and scouts who know the sport are listing the system in the Top 10. Throwing out bold statements like ‘high-risk guys’ with zero to back it up, when everyone else is saying the rankings are great, gives you the dubious honor of being the most clueless person in this post.
Is Bart high-risk? Marco Luciano? Heliot Ramos? Bailey? Some clarity and reasoning will help your argument other than tossing out a general ‘high-risk’ sweep of your hand.
In fact, give us a system that you don’t feel is high risk so we can all see where you’re coming from. I can wait…
“with the farn system they have? good luck.”
That’s an outdated take but carry on.
Here is how the Giants compete in 2022. Sign the following FA’s –
One of these – Arenado/Ramirez/Bryant
One of these – Lindor/Story/Baez
Two of these – Verlander/Kershaw/Scherzer/Greinke/Lynn/Morton/Bundy
Lineup:
Luciano – 2B
Yaz – LF
Lindor/Story/Baez – SS
Arenado/Ramirez/Bryant – 3B
Bart – 1B
Bishop – CF
Ramos – RF
Bailey – C
With 2 of the starters above to go with Webb, Corry, Beede, Hjelle, Humphrey, Harrison, Swiney, and a few others they should have the arms. Total commitment to 4 FA’s for 2022 would be around $120-$130 million annual but they wouldn’t have any other large contracts and the pitchers would be 2 year max deals.
LOL on the pitchers. Kershaw has a bum back, Verlander TJ plus close to 40, Greinke close to 40 and has become less effective, Lynn? Bundy? Those pitchers are past their prime. Beede will NOT be in the rotation by 2022. Gregory Santos will be part of our next rotation.
those are a lot of bidding wars to win and a lot of prospects hitting their ideal timelines. not saying its impossible but not terribly likely it all breaks that way.
The 2020 FA market is very deep and the Giants will have more money to spend than anyone else. The prospects are anyone’s guess but if the ones I mentioned don’t work out there are others that are less known like Canario, Toribio, Matos, Wilson, and Pomares and who knows if Dubon or Davis end up being pieces. If they can make sure to tank this year they could have a shot at an organizational cornerstone in next years draft. All that should be enough to make them “contenders” by 2023 at the very latest
Why tank? Yankees compete every year and still manage to have good prospects in the system. The tanking is just a lazy way to look at scouting and development.
What have they won lately? Pretty sure they were real bad for a few years as well when they traded Miller and Chapman for Torres and Frazier. Check the last 5 world series teams and 3 of them were built around top 10 draft picks most of which were top 3 like Correa, Bregman, Bryant, Hosmer and Moustakas. Add Schwarber, Baez, Springer, and Gordon to the list and each of those teams were built around a core of 3 players drafted top 10. Even the Giants won with 3 top 10 picks in Posey, Lincecum, and MadBum. It isn’t hard to see it is better to pick in the top 10 then outside if the top 10 especially if your GM is an idiot!
You just can’t wait to have a bunch of huge, unmovable contacts back on the books as soon as we finally get the last bunch from Evans out of there, huh?
Signing big time free agents is exactly how you ruin a team’s rebuild for years…we’ve gotta have a solid core first!
C’mon dude…just jumping right back down that hole?
Uh they have a ton of money to spend and not a lot of potential superstars. Investing in guys like Lindor, Story, Baez, Arenado, Ramirez, or Bryant long term wouldn’t hurt the rebuild and gives you some stars to build around. This isn’t the Miami Marlins the Giants can get 3 million fans easy in that ballpark when the team is good and each fan spends an average of around $100 at least. That is $300,000,000 in revenue before they even cash the checks from the tv networks! I think they can afford to spend on a couple superstar free agents!
Still waiting for the more to come.
Tromp/Pence 2020
As a loyal fan, and the Covid shortened season, I thought maybe, just maybe, they’d catch lighting in a bottle and maybe play well enough to grab one of the playoff spots. After all that’s what loyal fans do! Well reality has set in, and it’s evident this team is going nowhere with the likes of Pence, Pablo, Belt. I’ll give Crawford a pass because of his defense. When he’s on the field, those around him seem to play a little better. Pence blowing Cueto’s absolute gem deserved to be DFA’d immediately following the game. I was expecting to read it this morning.
With that being said, our biggest liability is the clown of a manager KAPLER. He deserves to be DFA’d after what he did to Gausman today. This loss is squarely on his shoulders. I had high hopes for Zaidi, but his selection of KAPLER is a complete and utter joke. Everything the Phillies fans talked about immediately following his hiring have come to fruition. He simply can’t manage a game and with him at the helm, with all of his stupid analytics, the future of this team is done. He reminds me of Dave Roberts’ decision making in the World Series!! SMH
With that being said,
So Cal Giants fan. News flash. The Giants are rebuilding. The Giants are a few years away.
Kapler was hand picked by Farhan. He went above and beyond to bring Kapler in after Kap failed miserably in Philly and made some poor decisions in handling the sexual assault charges of the minor leaguers while with LA. Nobody wanted this guy as the manager yet they all deferred to Farhan and let him go with his guy.
Clearly Kapler is not a good manager. He doesn’t have any instincts whatsoever and if he did they seem to be wrong frequently. What does this say about Farhan’s instincts if this is his guy?
Not so bold prediction, both Farhan and Kapler won’t last past the 2022 season. At this point you can’t fire one without firing the other and unless guys like Dubon, Davis, Bishop, Wilson, Bailey, and a few others turn into superstars he will be gone.
“With that being said, our biggest liability is the clown of a manager KAPLER. He deserves to be DFA’d after what he did to Gausman today.”
That was a really embarrassing scenario. I’ve been down on Kapler since he came aboard and this didn’t help.
This move was almost as bad as Dusty Baker giving what he described as a “game ball” to Russ Ortiz in game 6 of the World Series against the Anaheim Angels! Cost Barry his chance at a ring!
Overreact much?
I hate losing to the dodgers!
Nothing is as bad as the Baker Game Ball Fiasco… except maybe playing a rookie with eight starts in the most critical, must-win-or-miss-the-playoffs, game of the decade against the Dodgers.
Kapler is worthless. Analytics are good and all but you can’t coach off stats thats not how the game works. The worst part was watching him go out to make a pitching change right AFTER a mound visit from the pitching coach. He doesn’t even know the rules! Down right embarrassing! He’ll hopefully be gone in 2 years.
Agree! Not sure what kind of team chemistry this team has, but my guess would be it’s not very good. Kapler reminds me of one of those family members or bosses that just has to have their nose in everything. In all the years of watching Bochy manage the team, I don’t recall him ever personally calling the bullpen to check if his pitchers were ready. Kapler has done it a number of times this year. Right, wrong or indifferent, but why have a bench or pitching coach?
seeing as I’m being seen as a Giants hater for simply having a less then homeristic view of their system allow me to explain why I’m no so bullish on it. Bart and Bailey I will not rag on, always a fan of catching rpsoepcts because of the potential value they have, but there are questions thereafter. As far as the rest of the top 10 go…I was actually a fan of Corry before last year, but its worth noting he’s not that far advanced and there is no guarantee for a clean bill of health going forward. Hjelle and Bishop have posted solid numbers so far, but neither have done terribly well based on the average age of their competition. Ramos came around a bit last year so I’ll give him that, though hasn’t exactly been consistent between levels. The rest of the guys in the top 10 only have 61 games combined above rookie ball, and the bulk of that experience is from Canario, who started 2019 at the rookie level for the third time. And, lets face it, lots of young guys scorch the low minors and then come back down to earth. Maybe I’m being a bit harsh, but even if some of these guys exceed my expectations I think it would be bold to assume most to do so within two or three years as I’m being told they will.
You forgot about Marco Luciano. He is up there with Bart as far as likely being an impact player in the majors
Luciano is part of the guys who arent that far advanced. just as advanced as the other 3. sure he is the most promising but he’s also only played one pro season and 2022 is a very aggressive ETA for him.
Him and Canario are only 18 and have incredible bat speed. There is no doubt about Lucianos bat, other than he may have to slide over to third. These two guys I’m actually most excited about. Summer of 2022 at the earliest though.
This may be a dumb question, but why not throw them in some games at the MLB level if they’re posting solid numbers and expected to make their debut in 2022 anyway? I know they need work still, but get them some exposure in this shortened season, imo.
Service time would start and teams would lose control of the player earlier
It never made any sense to hire Kapler after two underperforming seasons with a talented Phillies team. However, Gigantes have some bright spots so far: Solano, Slater, Yaz, Gott, and Cueto.
I think we’ve seen enough of underpants, 300+ sandoval, samarja whatever, and the brandons…