Luke Voit’s plantar fasciitis is under control after receiving a platelet-rich plasma injection, per the Athletic’s Lindsey Adler (via Twitter). Voit will be in a walking boot for a week or two, but the Yankees expect him to be healed by the end of that time. Voit didn’t miss any time to the issue, and he certainty didn’t appear to be overly affected while slashing .277/.338/.610 and leading the majors with 22 home runs.
While the Dodgers drub the Braves in game three of the NLDS, let’s stay in the junior circuit and check in on some non-playoff teams…
- The Baltimore Orioles laid off 11 workers and furloughed 35 more, per Nathan Ruiz of the Baltimore Sun. At present, those furloughed employees are set to return to work on February 1st to match the timeline for spring training. Teams all across MLB have laid off large portions of the their staff because of revenue lost to the coronavirus pandemic. No fans were allowed in Camden Yards for the 60-game season, very much complicating the revenue picture for the Orioles (as with other clubs) moving forward. Ruiz provides a quote from GM Mike Elias that sums up the 2020 season, saying: “Baseball teams do a lot of planning, looking ahead, and just all of that is just totally out of the window because of this event that came in and turned the world upside down.”
- Unsurprisingly, the Angels will not be filling their GM vacancy until after the World Series, per Jeff Fletcher of the Orange County Register (via Twitter). The Angels aren’t particular close to finding their next hire, per Fletcher. It certainly makes sense that they might take some time. On the other hand, given how much work there is to be done in the offseason, some urgency to set a clear organizational direction prior to the impactful events of the offseason also makes sense. Eppler was hired in early October of 2015, though in that case, Jerry Dipoto, the previous GM, had stepped down in July.
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Angels need to talk Dan O’Dowd out of retirement.
Dan O’Dowd is a Rock Star!!!!!
Besides Buck Martinez, probably the most honest guy in the MLB landscape. But I think he’s 61, and had enough owner intrusion in Colorado He’s got a pretty comfortable gig now at mlb, and may not want to give it up.
Last winter, the network had a GM roundtable hosted by DOD, and it was remarkable that all six of them (rising stars) had started with O’Dowd when they were cutting their teeth. That says something; I doubt he did the picking of the guests. .
Listening to O’Dowd helped me to think like a GM, which has helped me with the I run my Dynasty Team…
O’Dowd is a good baseball mind, but I think the end of his time in Colorado showed that his best days as a GM are behind him.
Thus Moreno will hire him, he’s always a few years behind the curve.
They could hire Refsnyder to be GM…
Like that suggestion
Its the nlcs… tighten and watch out. Braves will win some how. The series that is.
Good on Voit for toughing-it-out despite the bothersome foot injury.
Do yanks fans actually think voit is better than Alonso!?? Like he obviously did better this year. But cmon now….
Alonso 19/20: .252/.350/.559 .909 ops
Voit 19/20: .268/.356/.512 .878 ops
Really not a massive difference. And, as you said, Voit is coming off the better (partial) year.
Now imagine Alonso’s numbers if he played the redsoxs bluejays and orioles 19 times each and played in the that stadium. Voit has also never hit 53 homers.
Team ERA in 2020:
Orioles: 4.53 (Rank 16)
Blue Jays: 4.59 (Rank 17)
Marlins: 4.77 (Rank 20)
Nationals: 5.11 (Rank 26)
Phillies: 5.14 (Rank 27)
Red Sox: 5.58 (Rank 28)
Sure, Boston’s pitching was awful. But overall, the NL East pitching was worse than the AL East pitching, at least in terms of ERA. Don’t forget the Rays, with one of the best pitching groups in the game. I would probably take Alonso over Voit, especially long term but let’s not pretend it isn’t at least a debate right now.
What about 2019????
No dog in the fight, but Alonso is also 4 years younger.. that’s significant
There’s not enough data out on Pete Alonso. He has 1 very nice rookie season on his resume. The tremendous power is there but Voit is no slouch in that department either. Alonso is 4 years younger and I would agree that he has more trade value because of that. Though the amount of team control on both players is even. So that mitigates some of the advantage of the age difference.
But he doesn’t have a standout tool that is significantly better than Voit. He may have slightly more pop. But he certainly isn’t a better pure hitter. The two are pretty close in that department. Alonso certainly doesn’t have him defensively either. It’s pretty close overall.
Forbes Magazine –
“Bu in a pandemic world – where owner Hal Steinbrenner has said his team lost more money than any other (this is a franchise that has always printed money, so fans likely won’t be sympathetic to his plight) that may not be feasible. A payroll reduction seems likely. It may require more internal solutions than desired, or it may require dealing Voit or Urshela.”
Yankees fans or not they are very comparable players and ultimately Alonso has to show which player he is more like. ROY or the guy from 2020 go barely, if any, made a difference.
People are taking 2020 to serously. The marlins making the playoffs should give you a hint. So bellinger has to prove what player he is?? Yelich has to show he could go back to mvp form.. voit isn’t better than Alonso for winning the 60 game hr champ award lol.
I never suggested Voit is better than Alonso. All things considered, Alonso is likely the more valuable and desirable player of the two. Gripes about division opponents and stadium dimensions aside (I mean, come on), all I suggested was that the two are rather comparable offensive players. Hard to argue with the blatant statistics on that. But I know 53 bombs is flashy and he’s clearly your guy, and there’s nothing wrong with you liking him more. Objectively, though, that’s not exactly a clear cut case.
Stats wise yes.. they are. But the stadium makes a huge difference. Put McNeil in that stadium and he outhits DJ. Voit isn’t bad but all year long I heard yanks fans saying Voit>Alonso after a 60 game season and I thought it was nonsense
Similar to Srechter, never did I say about is better, they are comparable. Your constant “marlins making the playoffs” excuse does not in any way take away from their accomplishments. Especially considering the two teams had similar schedules…also Mets didn’t event make it to .500 and on top of that were swept to fifth place. As for Bellinger and Yelich…yes they do. Bellinger’s 2019 is also sort of questionable so he has to show if he is that player and Yelich has to show he can go back to MVP form. He at least has a solid pre 2020 track record, Alonso? Not so much. But again that’s baseball, year to year fluctuations and breakouts vs fades.
Yes it does take away… bc quite frankly marlins are sitting in last place If this was a 162 game season.
Did Alonso lead the NL in HR’s after 60 games ???? All I keep hearing is about the 53 HR’s he hit LY. ……maybe pitchers learned something ?
Voit’s numbers since joining the Yankees are fairly comperable to Alosno’s 2019. little less power complimented by more a higher AVG.
Compare their situations…. park teams played etc…
there’s actually a few stats for that, like ops+ or wrc+
Luke Voit wrC+ past 2 years 126,152
Pete alonso wrC+ past 2 years 143, 119
that’s with Voit also being very injured 2nd half of 2019. I agree Alonso is the more valuable commodity in the future but as bat first first basemen/DH types they are very similar and there is a strong case for both.
Ducky Buckin Fent
You sold me @metsfan22.
All those facts.
I hadn’t given it a moments thought until you brought it to my attention. After seeing how the pitching in the AL East > than the pitching in the NL East (hat tip @hammertime) it *is* apparent, isn’t it?
Voit is better than Alonso.
This was completely unimportant to me, but it’s always good to know where things stand.
Alonso struggled in a 60 game season and voit did good. In 2019 the NL east had better pitching than Al East and Alonso our hit voit in a way harder stadium to hit in. The Braves Nats Marlins and Phillies all have better SP than redsoxs Orioles and bluejays… the only team with good pitching is the rays and voit hits in a stadium where a fly out to RF is a HR. Voit is also 4 years older
Ducky Buckin Fent
Bro, have you seen how Luke Voit wears his baseball jersey?
I mean…the Boogie Man checks under his bed to make sure Luke Voit isn’t hiding under it.
It’s a fact.
P.S. @metsfan22, The Marlins made the playoffs because they are better than the mets.
You guessed it…it’s a fact, son!
Lol voit looks pretty cool I won’t lie lol. But the marlins lineup consist of backups and minor leaguers. They aren’t good and everyone should know they are a fluke that will be In the basement next year.
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“Compare their situations…. park teams played etc…”
Okay. The three NL teams with the lowest team ERA that the Mets played in 2019 were the Dodgers, the Cardinals and the Cubs. The Mets’ record:
vs Dodgers: 2-5
vs Cardinals: 2-5
vs Cubs: 2-5
The three AL teams with the lowest team ERA that the Yankees played in 2019 were the Astros, the Rays and the Indians. The Yankees’ record:
vs Astros: 3-4
vs Rays: 12-7
vs Indians: 3-4
BTW, while it’s reasonable to say there’s no legit 1-to-1 comparison between this year’s weird season and last year’s conventional season, it’s a fact that as of August 18, 2020, the Marlins had 17 players test positive for COVID-19.
As of that date, the Mets had two positive tests.
MetsFan22 you really are a clown with zero baseball iq. You repeat the same nonsense over and over. We get it. You think Alonso is the next Babe Ruth and if the Mets stay healthy and 10 players have career years and another 5 have bounce back years and so on and so on. And by the way the only thing that would have changed for the Mets with a full season is they would’ve been 18 games back instead of 9. Get over it.
Lol….. I honestly can’t… Alonso isn’t Soto. Ik he isn’t a top 5 hitter. It’s just funny how yanks fans think he is better after a 60 game season we’re other elite hitters hit horrible too. And yes the Mets make the playoffs with stroman and Thor. It’s not really a hard concept… the only thing that the Mets were bad at was SP. even the bullpen didn’t lose them as much games as last year. They have good SP if you add stro and Thor. So yes if they turned their weakness to one of the best in the league they would have made it.
Every year it’s if and buts with you. Let me ask you a question…how has that been working out for you and the Mets? It’s ok to root for your team but sometimes you need to take the blinders off. The results don’t lie.
Luke Voit is way better than Alonso and it really isn’t close. Alonso was a one year wonder, he’s already been exposed as nothing but a one dimensional DH only/platoon type player whereas Luke Voit has established himself as a borderline superstar these last 3 years.
lol these are the yanks fans I was taking about lol. Dude I could be a superstar in the LLWS stadium
You keep jumping to the same thing to try and make your argument but it doesn’t work. hitting in Yankees Stadium doesn’t make you some sort of mega-star power hitter
Luke Voit as a Yankee:
Home – 30 HR
Away – 27 HR
Yankee Stadium is a pitcher friendly ballpark, stop with the excuses. Luke Voit is miles better than Pete Alonso
Away parks being Boston, orioles, bluejays and Tampa lol….. great job proving a point…..
I watched Voit in College and AA ball . Dude is that good!
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Notice Voit played and Bird,who had something similar,did not.
Your comparison is Null and Voit.
As an Angel fan I have no clue what they are thinking. At first it seemed like a no brainer DD thing (which would be horrible). but but Caprino basically implied the organization is broken from the inside out and that implied they really might bring in a person and give the whole kingdom to them.
It would be great if they invested in a proper sytem from teh bottom up and a young GM.
Theo Epstein looking for a new challenge..
I know its not being said in this thread in particular, but I keep seeing people talking about Voit like he’s the most expendable and unremarkable player in the world, that the Yankees should trade him immediately for anything they can get, that they shouldn’t have him in their plans for even next year and I don’t get it. This is what they’ve wanted at least since 2016, if not more realistically 2013, this is what they wanted and kept saying Greg Bird would be when he was a prospect. Luke Voit is the real deal. He’s got some of the best overall numbers of the past few seasons against any player in game for game production.
Why do so many people think the Yankees should trade him? Why are so many people so indifferent to his long term participation as a Yankee?
As a baseball fan for many years, apart from rooting for a team, I root for the rosters on that team. I don’t really root for the uniform as much as I do the make up of the roster- I love that the Yankees salvaged Luke Voit out of St. Louis’ log jam of talent and unleashed him on the league and that he’s turned into an above average defensive first baseman and a first class offensive player- who is cheap-ish and controllable for the next four seasons and going by typical production at every age as a player progresses in their career, by most baseball standards he has around 4 to 8 more years of typical production for what he’s accomplished thus far.
Baseball is a lucrative business and pays its players accordingly and teams’ marketing strategies rely largely on the perennial presence of particular players performing- key word perform- it’s an entertainment business and as much as we love to see new talent emerge, or as intriguing as it is to see players in different uniforms, there’s a ton of value, both in game strategy and in marketing strategy, to play the same guys season in and season out, manning their position that we know and love them in.
I want to see Luke Voit be the Yankees First Baseman/DH for the next 4 or more seasons.
The easy answer is Voit is a one dimensional player with a weak glove and the other fact is we have too many swing for fences or miss players in the lineup and we need more high contact bats to help the lineup flow better so this is a great time to deal Voit at his highest value and build a lineup that can actually threaten pitchers every inning rather then waiting for the big HR. Sanchez should be a back up catcher and platoon at first as well to get him in the lineup. This will open up an additional spot for another left handed bat. Voit, Hicks, Andujar, and a high end pitching prospect like Abreu for Lindor last year. Sign Gardner to platoon in cf with Tauchman. Sign a defensive minded catcher who can make contact. Sign DJ to play all around the diamond. Sign Bauer.
a) where do you get all these “high contact bats” your talking about.
b) if Sanchez is highly questionable defensively at catcher, you’re going to hand him a first baseman glove and expect him to do better?
c) the Yankees aren’t going to give 4 guys away anymore in trades to get one guy back…even a guy like Lindor.
d) Gardner and Tauchman in center? Really!
The only good thing you said was re-sign DJ and Bauer which are both great ideas!
Bauer is a great idea but Yankees not signing another big time free agent until they can do some addition by subtraction. Get rid of Stanton sign Bauer or Don’t bring back Gardner, Paxton, and Happ and sign Bauer.
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Do we get rid of Stanton before or after we trade Judge, Gleyber, & Sanchez for (one year of!) Lindor?
Remember that doozy you threw out there, @mlbnyyfan?
You strike out wayyyyyyy more than Gary Sanchez, bro!
Seems like you’re a fan of mid-market platoon oriented line ups and you’re ignoring reality in some instances- like even if Sanchez wasn’t the starting catcher his bat hasn’t really been very good either if he doesn’t hit a monster home run. That wouldn’t change if he was moved to first base and his glove might suck there, too, so why give Voit up to play that kind if performance in his stead? Do we know Tauchman can step his game up to be more consistent? He seems like a solid but unremarkable 4th outfielder at the moment. I don’t think he’d be unleashed if he played more. And Voit is not a pure swing for the fences player. The guy hits plenty of singles and doubles. His average reflects this.
Hicks is a pretty consistent hitter with modest power, Andujar has no trade value… why would they take all that on to give us Lindor?
Bauer wouldn’t necessarily sign with the Yankees and there are other teams capable of giving him the kind of money he’ll be expecting and teams he’d be more likely to actually want to play for- and I could see him staying with the Reds.
Bauer needs to sign with the Angels. If not Trout demands a trade to Philadelphia or Mets to be closer to home