A Mets official tells Joel Sherman of the New York Post that Amed Rosario becoming a multi-positional player is “likely in the cards” for 2021. Rosario has almost exclusively played shortstop during his eight pro seasons, apart from seven games as a third baseman in the minors and one game in left field at the MLB level.
This isn’t the first time a position change has been weighed for Rosario, as the Mets considered him as a center field candidate back in June 2019. Nothing came of the idea, however, and perhaps it isn’t a coincidence that around that same time, Rosario went on the hottest hitting stretch of his young career. After batting .322/.353/.453 over his final 372 plate appearances of the 2019 season, Rosario seemed to solidify his claim as New York’s shortstop of the future, but he struggled in 2020. This opened the door for Andres Gimenez to claim an increasingly large share of the shortstop playing time down the stretch.
It should be noted that the Mets have apparently not run the idea of a position change past Rosario or his agent Ulises Cabrera, who tells Sherman that “as far as we are concerned, Amed Rosario is the starting shortstop of the New York Mets, and he’s working out and preparing as such.” As such, Rosario isn’t planning to start working out at other positions either in his personal offseason work or in a more organized environment like winter ball.
Rosario’s glovework at shortstop has long been a question mark, though he did make some progress on that front in the eyes of some metrics. Over 322 1/3 innings at the position last season, Rosario had a +2 Outs Above Average and a +3.5 UZR/150. (The Defensive Runs Saved metric remains unimpressed with Rosario’s work, as he posted -3 DRS.) While it is understandable that Rosario would want to remain the regular shortstop, becoming a more versatile defensive player would theoretically add to his overall value. Or, perhaps Rosario would reveal himself as a plus defender at second base, third base, or in the outfield.
The rumors of a Francisco Lindor trade continue to loom over the Mets’ shortstop plans, though Sherman feels the Mets might have enough depth at the position to forego a pursuit of Lindor for the time being. Sherman opines that the Mets could keep Gimenez at shortstop in 2021 to explore what they have in him, which also allows more time for top prospect Ronny Mauricio to get more seasoning in the minors or in another alternate training-site scenario depending on what happens with next year’s minor league season. If the Mets aren’t satisfied with what they see from Rosario, Gimenez, or Mauricio, they could explore a trade for a shortstop in-season (perhaps with one of the current trio going the other way in a deal), or maybe just wait to sign one of the many outstanding shortstops who are scheduled to hit free agency next winter.
What’s a fair assessment of Rosario’s trade value? Which teams are thin at SS?
Hard to say. Mets will value the guy as the once top prospect, and the guy who showed up in the second half of 2019. Other teams will value him as a young utility guy with some upside.
Fully knowing he’s somewhere in between.
I wondered if he and Mauricio could be part of a trade for Lindor. Indians would have that position filled for a few years. Only worth it if the Mets can extend Lindor
The Strength of the Indian farm system is at SS. They are looking for MLB ready help especially in the outfield.
Angels, Athletics, Phillies, Indians if they trade Lindor and don’t get a SS in return
Lindor is a switch hitting SS.
He’s only had 1 decent year. He’s not that good overall, so I don’t think his trade value is amazing. Especially in a league stacked with SS. If he starts playing more positions, it should increase his value a lot in my opinion.
With Alderson working with A’s last year and back with mets I wonder if a trade matches up with Oakland, especially with semien likely gone
Amed Rosario would fit well in DET.
He can’t hit
He isn’t elite but he could hit. Being 24 and have 750 ops 287 avg and being top 5 in hits… the disrespect he gets. Ik he isn’t someone who you brag about but he isn’t a bad hitter. People who count 2020 don’t really know how baseball works
Interesting that, when it’s convenient to boost up a Mets player, you offer up batting average, but dismiss it when it comes to when you’re boosting up Nimmo’s value.
Seems like a contradiction there.
He would start on your team. Lol
Where? It won’t be at SS because we have a GG caliber SS and the next guy in line has more tools than Rosario.
And you avoided addressing the contradiction that I called you out on. Don’t think it’s going away either. Your Homerism has been exposed again.
I can’t judge 2020 but in 2019, Rosario had 177 Hits (3rd among all SS) and 266 TB (6th). He had flaws but his numbers are similar to Alan Trammell’s in a good year.
Rosario wasn’t terrible defensively. He was upper middle of the pack.
But MetsFan22 and a couple of other Mets fans often say (particularly when it comes to Nimmo) that hits don’t matter because they are antiquated concepts. They argue that walks are just as good as a hit and what matters is OBP. At least that’s what they say when the topic is Nimmo.
Lol, Rosario is NOTHING like Alan Trammell. Not even close. He’s a bad fielder and, so far, a bad hitter
No one says hits don’t matter, that’s an exaggeration convenient to your argument.. While I agree with you in this particular issue, your antiquated notions about walks and OBP are absurdly wrong. Nimmo = great hitter; Rosario not so much. Good hitting = avoiding outs and getting on base.
While you and I disagree on BA value and the value of a guy like Nimmo, at least you’re consistent…unlike MetsFan22 who switches his statements to fit the Mets player he’s boosting up at the moment based on the stats that favor them…OBP for Nimmo and BA for Rosario. If Jason Heyward was with the Mets, MetsFan22 would avoid the offensive categories and cite the defensive stuff.
Considering the number of times Rosario walks is there really any difference between his batting average and on base percentage.
Issue with Rosario is that he’s NOT a SS…. his future could be at second or CF or as a utility guy, but he’s not an everyday SS.
Yes I agree he doesn’t have the glove to be a SS. But to say he can’t hit is complete false….. he is just avg at hitting
Is that based on his batting average or OBP? I’m confused since you keep changing your measuring tools from player to player – from Nimmo to Rosario. With Nimmo, batting average is antiquated because OBP is all that matters. Now, with Rosario, you point out his average and don’t use his OBP.
Don’t look now, but I think you got a little homer hypocritical contradiction in your eye.
@MFB
You should cut the Metsies fans a break. They’re all in love with Super Steve and getting damp as teenagers thinking about it. Love isn’t logical and you’re hanging the poor infatuated guy for not being logically consistent.
OBP probably is a better offensive metric than BA, but BA is a good measure of actual bat on the ball hitting. Hitting drives in runs, walks not so much. A ground out can advance a run, but a strike out won’t The truth of the matter is that both are flawed offensive players who need to improve to get to the next level (conforto) or avoid losing a starting job (Rosario)
Career OPS+ of 91… literally 9% below average across the board (stat includes non-starting players).
Very well stated. But you should know that everyone that has encountered MetsFan22 know he is a major Mets homer that looks foolish all the time. This particularly has been a rough year for him.
Rosario and his agent are only focusing on him being the Mets starting SS. He sucks when he has tried to play 3B or 2B. His agent has claimed the Mets said nothing to Rosario about learning to play the OF, or learning to truly play more IF positions which would make him a more versatile player that would possibly make him more money (if he does well) when he becomes a free agent. The Mets could trade Rosario for Byron Buxton, and a reliever. Rosario sounds like a unhappy camper with the Mets, and Byron Buxton wants out of the Twins. Trade them. The Mets get a righty batting CFer with really good defense, and speed but his injury history has always hampered him. Rosario is becoming a prima donna which is exactly what the Mets do not need. Get rid of him as Buxton is a needed commodity, and if he does not hit then have him share CF with Mallak Smith who is faster than Billy Hamilton, and fields and throw like a champ. Perhaps Chili Davis can get Smith back on track, and he can re-gain his normal 252 average?
Rosario’s a starting shortstop for a last place team, sure
No he’s not.
Well marlins would be last place and he would start for them next year lol
he could start at SS for the Nats if they move Trea back to OF
Yeah but trea is way better than Rosario so I just didn’t mention them.
What happened this year though? Marlins > Mets until proven otherwise.
No one is going to predict the marlins better than Mets next year
As of now? I would. That being said, I expect Cohen to make a splash that will change my mind.
Pinstripes17! Where you been, man? I haven’t seen you on here in a while. Welcome back dude!
The Mets could do nothing and will finish ahead of the marlins.
They lost their 3rd best hitter. They have 2 SPs. Need a catcher. No. The Mets are not good now, but they will be
@MetsFan22
Uh, last I checked, Marlins made the playoffs and advanced a round while the Mets finished in last place, and were in a downward spiral and trend to do so.
So, yeah, Rosario was a starting SS on a last place team.
And FYI, Marlins aren’t starting Rosario over GG nominee Miguel rojas or the expected future of the position, Jazz Chisholm.
Try again. This statement of yours didn’t work well for you.
“The Mets could do nothing and will finish ahead of the marlins.”
I think that this quote will come in handy like these following gems from MetsFan22 this year:
“Even in a 60-game season, the Marlins will finish 15 games out of fourth place; 25 games out of first.”
During the season: “The Marlins will be last place soon.”
“The Mets had more roster problems than the Marlins and Braves.”
You are really bragging about a 60 game season and beating the Cubs? Let’s see if the Marlins can win 90 games next year
Bro this dude is going to be so sad when they are in last place next year. We will all have seen it a mile away but him lol
No he’s not bragging, just defending the marlins because the statements made by the delusional Mets homer.
Saying the mets are better than the marlins is not delusional… marlins fans are bing delusional for thinking they’ll compete next year
It is delusional. The Mets were awful in 2020. And as of right now, they’re even worse without Cano. Obviously there are FA signings to come, but you can’t argue results.
Rosario is not a starting SS for anyone. He can’t field the position.
We all have to agree that MetsFan22 had the greatest statement of the year.
“Even in 60 games, the Marlins will finish 15 games out of fourth place; 25 out of first.”
Can anyone top that statement for 2020?
Can we blame him if he’s now trying to repeat his achievement next season? All we can do is enjoy every single time he makes these statements, and they turn out like they have…and it will be so enjoyable that we will still be able to live with him throwing a parade when the moment comes that the blind homer squirrel actually finds a nut (eventually).
Yea I don’t get the blind homerism …. I tend toward taking a cold and honest approach to evaluating baseball.
Yes, I do the same approach too. Life is more enjoyable when you see reality. With baseball, I look at my team for what it is. As a result, I enjoy the season no matter what happens, because I love baseball and the Marlins. The good seasons are a bonus.
As you all saw, in the pre-Covid part of Spring Training, when we were expecting a 162-game season, my statements were that the Marlins would be better and had a legit chance to get out of the basement this year because I saw that both the Phillies and Mets had chances of imploding while the Marlins improved. Then, after the Covid shutdowns, when we saw that MLB was trying to have a shortened seasons, when the negotiations were going badly, and we all saw that a season would likely be less than 80 games and involved expanded playoffs, I strongly felt that this Marlins roster and organizational depth with young players, was capable (like all 30 teams) of having a good, half-season run. That’s when I started saying (mostly joking) that the Marlins would make the playoffs.
And now, as we are unsure about what next year brings, I will say it again…if the season is 162 games, the Marlins have a serious chance of staying out of last place and can easily finish as high as 3rd in the NL East. If the season is shortened, and we have expanded playoffs again, I will pick the Marlins to make the playoffs under that scenario. We have the roster make-up for a half-season run, and our young players are coming in.
That’s a realistic look. Essentially 162-games, we’re not a contender, but 81 games or less with expanded playoffs, we’re in this.
Amed Rosario for Byron Buxton straight up. Fills both teams needs and opens a spot for Giminez
Two walks in 135 plate appearances for 4 walks in 147 ate appearances. I’d say that’s as even up a trade as possible.
Time for Rosario to find a new agent. U. Cabrera doesn’t get it – Rosario is ‘moving around…’ because he’s failed to lock down SS. Posture all you want, but he’s not viewed as a starting SS on most MLB Teams. The NYM have options and they will avail themselves of them. This would be an ideal time for Rosario to bust his butt in the off season- batting, fielding at SS and breaking in an OF glove.
I think he has the athleticism to play CF. Does he have the baseball IQ too ? Can he become the high OBP lead off player they need ? or does a journeyman’s career await him ?
High OBP? Never. Not from Rosario. He could learn another position easier than he could learn to lay off bad pitches.
Actually, Rosario has pretty decent obp numbers a couple of years in the minors. I think the problem may be about trying to hit homeruns instead of putting the balk in play. I think he had s couple years with 40+ walks, so it’s not like he can’t take a base. I think a LOT of players simply tried to do too much in too few at bats last year.
Let Rosario hit 8th, get pitched around (or grooved fastballs) and attempt 30-40 steals.
Until Gimenez or Mauricio accomplish what Rosario already has, the job his is.
1 McNeil
2 Nimmo
3 Alonso
4 Conforto
5 Davis
6 Smith
7 Catcher
8 Rosario
9 pitcher
…adding a Springer or Realmuto makes this lineup look a lot deeper, especially if you factor in the DH. Rosario might even be the best #9 hitter in the league.
He also stole bases in the minors. So you’ve probably helped answer the question- stopped drawing walks, stopped stealing bases and now getting pushed off SS while his agent is adamant that he’s preparing only as the starting SS. So, no he doesn’t have the baseball IQ to avoid being a journeyman. smh
Again, the problem is he can’t play SS
Mets fan here. Rosario has probably the worst baseball IQ i’ve ever seen for a supposed top prospect.
Trevor Story for Rosario and whoever is the Mets 2nd best pitching prospect.
Rosario and J.T. Ginn then. Ginn would’ve been a first rounder this year if he hadn’t gotten Tommy John. Would hurt to give him up but I guess that means it’s a fair deal.
Second best?
any trade news on Willy Adames? seems like Wander would displace him
Yea that’ll be an interesting case because it’s not like they can just move Franco or Adames to 2B with Vidal Brujan. I’m sure the Rays will flece some team and get a pitcher back. Maybe Oakland since Semien and La Stella are in free agency or Phillies.
Trade Rosario (if he’s not our SS) for Lindor/$$SP/Hand for Rosario/Matz/SP prospect and international money.
Use Gimenez as utility and late inning speed. He’s done it in the minors already.
Sign McCann ASAP or trade for Sal Perez (Royals) if Realmuto is not a real option.
Sign Springer for 4 years with an option for CF. Move him to left or right in a year or 2.
Can our coaching staff reinvent Mallex Smith into a viable CF option?
Sign a true 3B or 2B for defensive purposes that can be switched with JD Davis when needed.
Move Dom Smith for pitching unless the NL goes DH. He’s developing into a good hitter, but needs to be at 1B, not LF.
Check in on Hader. A left/right of Diaz and Hader, who can go more than 1 inning, is enticing, especially if Lugo can slide back into the 7th. Do the Brewers have any SP to deal?
Sign Guerra for Lugo’s 7th inning gig if Lugo stays in the rotation.
Make a big offer to Bauer. Either he signs it or puts the budget pressure on another team.
Sign some HEALTHY starting pitching, not rehab projects. How about the Cubs high prices guys?
Is Bryant an actual option? Would a package around JD Davis, Nido, Matz, Mauricio and cash get us Bryant and Contreras? Probably not.
It will take a lot more than Rosario to get Lindor, let alone Lindor and a SP. . Hand is also a free agent as the Indians declined his option and no team claimed him.
Hey hockeyjohn, sorry, guess again!
Willy Adams’s was such a loser in the playoffs. I was pissed that he kept hurting the rays. If I was the rays I’d dfa him ones Franco gets called up. I’m being harsh but he pissed me off lol
Your not a rays fan why does that bother you. And thank god your not a gm because you’d be cutting good players left and right
I wouldn’t cut him. It was a joke. But I wanted the rays to win. So I cared. He sucked when it mattered. Truth be told, he shouldn’t be the SS when Franco is up. He isn’t anything special
When I first saw the headline I thought it said, “Mets Amed Rosario Likely To Play Multiple Positions For A Different Team Next Season.” Wishful thinking. Trade Rosario for some reliever that nobody has heard of. Don’t go after Lindor. Take your chances with Gimenez as the starter and Guillorme as the backup. Groom Mauricio as the next guy. Use all resources possible to land Bauer. Mmmkay?
I’d say Mets should flip Rosario & Gsellman to Oakland for Manaea & Trivino. Win-win for both teams and each fill holes their respective lineup/starting rotation.
A’s are pretty loaded at SS, CF and relief, too. Also have a REAL good young catcher, so might be some option for their #2.
With so many good options at ss coming up, the Mets trading for Lindor and extending him does not make sense. They really have a bit of a surplus at ss and might be better advised to trade Gimenez or Mauricio (or Rosario, if anyone still has love for him) for some young pitching help or perhaps a catcher if they cannot snag Realmuto (Wilson Contreras anyone?).
Or maybe they can see if they can trade one of them for Jerred Kelenic! (or was that a little too cruel to the Mets fans…)
Except none of our SS options will ever be confused with Lindor. He’s elite and they are unproven or a few years away. They all have to experience the sophomore slump even with early success. If you can trade any 2 of them in a package for Lindor, you do it. Worry about 2022 a year from now. More prospects end up like JT Riddle than Lindor.
“Worry about 2022 a year from now.” … that’s a good way to build a team that’ll be in last place for a long time. (And part of the reason why we have the problems we have now). Can’t build a successful team like that.
The Cano suspension opens some nice doors of possibility for the Mets to cobble together a decent infield. Being flexible about who plays shortstop is a start. Rosario has not earned the spot yet.
I’m a Gimenez guy. I also like the idea of giving Guillorme reign over second. Sign Realmuto and that up the middle D is getting better… then sign Springer…. maybe. Springer’s contract is likely to be an albatross at the back end, but….
Do we really want 1 HR from our starting 2b? This isn’t the Felix Millan era! (Loved him, btw.)
Guillorme is 3rd string, AAA depth with 26 man rosters. Emergency starter or depth piece only. He’s insurance if we trade 2 of 3 SS and bank on Lindor. I prefer Gimenez speed potential and versatility. Trade Rosario and Mauricio in the right deals. Rosario in a Lindor deal.
See if Nick Senzel is healthy yet?
Could we take on an Arenado or Story contract? We just saved 20 million this year. If we just unload Cano and someone else picks him up, what are we responsible for $$? I can’t believe there isn’t some kind of morals clause in his contract that can’t void it.
Guillorme is a good player; great D, possibly decent bat. Penciling him in as an everyday second baseman may be a bit of a stretch, however. I was just spit-balling on that.
I think there is less a chance of signing Springer (in the back end) for a few reasons. Work it like Harper’s. Front load him.
Plus, with the DH looming, he can get rest AND at bats. In the next year or 2, we move him to left or right. The key is front loading and no no-trade clause or limited no trade. Insanely load it with incentives like games played, runs scored, rbi, games won while playing, gold glove, silver slugger, post season appearances, mvp votes and on and on. Base 20 mil, incentive load it to 40 mil. Guarantee 70% in the first 2 years.
As much as I would hate to part with nimmo including him in a trade with Rosario and couple of prospects would free up left field for dom smith even though that makes our defense worse out there but without the certainty of the dh next season he has to play somewhere
Nimmo, Rosario and a couple prospects? For whom? Mike Trout with the Angels eating cash? That’s a pretty steep giveaway (depending on what you mean by prospects, I guess).
You’re trolling right?
i think he is being sarcastic in the fact there is a trade from the mets side but not who they are trading to. Its like saying i hate to include gleybar torres in a trade with gary sanchez…….. *crickets*
I’m ok moving Rosario and Nimmo for Lindor or another similar calibur SS. Add in Matz/Gsellman and see if the Indians return a higher priced salary dump pitcher. What about their 2019 starting catcher? Is he still there?
Matz and Gsellman add nothing for the Indians. Also, The Indians are built on pitching and defense. They are not trading their 2 time gold glove catcher.
@hockeyjohn, Well, I guess the Rosario and prospects for Lindor and a pitcher contract unload was pretty close, eh?
Just for funnsies, can anyone tell me why Jimenez was promoted, at the age of 21, to split time with Rosario, at the age of 24, for a team that was not a contender? They had plenty of infielders. I like Gimenez, but at the age of 21, it’s likehe was expected to blow the doors off of everyone. And while Rosario disappointed, it is not like he was 34, and about to be put out to pasture.
It feels like they lost a year of service time, for absolutely no return.
meanwhile the Padres were promoting anyone who could play last year. seems like some of these teams were trying to get cute with their promotions last year.
I know Gimenez played a lot of third base. Was he good there defensively? Maybe they are thinking of him in that position for the future.
It’s a valid point. It did seem they expected far more from Giminez and they may very well get it. Maybe they expect him to use this time with Rosario to adjust offensively to MLB pitching, or showcase talent of both to trade for other talent?
So originally he was only supposed to be up as a defensive replacement for Cano and pinch runner until rosters shrunk, but then they kept the 28 man roster and with Rosario struggling and him being so impressive he kept playing and eventually won the job.
Dude is a GG caliber player at 3 positions and he steals bases. Only question is whether he can keep hitting
More or less exactly my point. I think he is an excellent prospect. A pure SS, with a bit of a bat. So why bring him up to “be up as a defensive replacement for Cano and pinch runner”? The waiver wire is filled with those types.
In addition, this probably forces them to start Gimenez on April 1st next year, instead of April 15th. I doubt he’ll be a star, but this move probably cost the NYMs two years of control. And he has no AAA experience, so it is not like there is no benefit to having him in the minors.
And as long as I am on a rant, the NYMs probably should’ve sent Rosario down for more seasoning in AAA. When someone has a 49/3 K/W at the age of 21, I think that suggests that they aren’t ready.
So in three years of service time, the NYMs only netted out 2.1 WAR, for a top-10 prospect. It is just bad roster management.
because brodie van wagenen was a very bad GM.
This past year was different because there was no MiLB season, and teams needed to use their spots for top prospects to get work in, and then when injuries happened, they had no choice but to bring up prospects that they wouldn’t have brought up under a normal year.
I know this well from what the Marlins had to do after the Covid outbreak.
I think it may have been for two reasons. 1 give Rosario some job insecurity. He responded well to that before. 2 defensive switches, late speed and utility coverage. We also really knew that at any time, someone might contract c-19? Short year, get his feet wet.
The agent must be smoking something if he thinks Rosario is gonna be the starting shortstop next season. Rosario had a lot of opportunities to lock the position for years to come and failed.
I think he’s just a little upset that they did it through the media, guessing without notification.
If your an agent that says my player is a crappy player that doesnt deserve to start, you probably wouldnt have clients.
Agent is posturing like s certain high seat holder on his way out.
Gregorious will be the new Mets SS.
Lifelong NYM fan. I think its premature to say what Rosario is or can be. He justed turned 25 Happy Birthday. Plenty of Good players had poor 2020 stats. Yelich. He is a Bible hitter, would be more valuable as improving defense and OBP. He could thrive in a Zobrist role if he approaches it as an opportunity and Not a demotion. Gimenez still has to prove he can hit MLB pitching over more ABs. I really hope Rosario and/or Gimenez are not traded. I really like Lindors game and if he would agree to a reasonable extension I would trade for him. They could keep Gimenez and play him at 2B/3B.Rosario could be Super Utility also play 2B,3B and some OF but not as everyday CF. Needs to start mental and physical process NOW and be ready whenever season 2021 begins; Unlikely it will begin in April due to Virus. IMHO. LGM. Sign Springer, MCannn or Romine and Bauer. Possibly trade for Lindor depends on asking price and extension issues $ and length 7 years Giddy Up
The problem is that all we hear is how the Mets need to improve their defense. Trying to turn Rosario into an outfielder or utility infielder at the major league level, where he has little to no experience, does not improve their defense.
Gimenez, on the other hand, HAS moved around all through the minors.
The Mets tried to move Jose Reyes around. It didn’t work.
We tried to move Flores around, who was a natural SS. All he got was a bad rep as a defensive liability while trying to learn new positions.
We were criticized for our defense because of the need to move corner infielders to the outfield. The moving them back to the infield with little preparation. (Davis)
I’m sure McNeil would have looked rusty if we suddenly moved him back to the infield with little prep.
If the Mets don’t believe Rosario is their SS, then they have to trade him. His value diminishes with less playing time or playing out of position.
The Mets tried to move Jose Reyes around. It didn’t work.
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Ahhh yes, the good olde days. The NYMs had signed Kaz Matsui to play SS, even though they already had a SS.
So, even though Reyes was a very good fielder at that point, and even though Matsui could not play MLB SS, the NYMs made Reyes play 2B, rather than admit that they were wrong.
Flash forward 16 years, and they still played Cano at 2B, rather than admit that they were wrong.
Here’s the acid test- offer Rosario to the Rays in a trade. Keep him if they’re interested. He’s young with a prospects pedigree and could just be more fallout from the Wilpon Era. Rays know value, let’s see if Super Steve has anyone who can coach up Rosario
I think many minds in Mets management including first year Manager Rojas wanted to improve defense anywhere and Gimenez played MLB defense at all positions. He hit well given he probably needed more time in AAA to prepare. Stayed around because he wasnt overmatched and there was no minor league to go to. Also I don’t doubt the move was made to push Rosario to improve his defense
I’ve said it before: bad starting pitching makes the defense look bad. Missed pitch locations means balls are hit away from shifts. Deep counts and grooved fastballs mean more rockets are hit. Having range-challenged players around you makes you cover more ground or field the ball more often out of balance. Put McNeil and another similar infielder around him and I think his value goes up, especially if he’s your #7 or #8 hitter. It’s like Mikel Franco in Philly all over again. Maybe the expectations are the problem?
I’ve watched Rosario since he came up. He isn’t a hack out there. He makes a lazy throw now and again. He misplays in between hops once in awhile. Keith Hernandez probably saves him 3-4 errors a year. I’ve certainly seen a lot worse.
He plays hard every day, never loses his head, never is a clubhouse distraction, rarely misses games and ALWAYS plays hard until the last out. He has improved in so many different areas. Maybe the Mets just need to give the kid a vote of confidence and get OUT of his head? I’m sure a lot of teams would love to have a 26 year old 20/20/70/.265 shortstop with 5 years of mlb experience who seems to have a good head on his shoulders. Hopefully it’s not someone playing against them.
Also if you have a lot of ground ball pitchers it doesnt help either if your fielders are not that good in the field.
Valid point. But batters aren’t ground ball hitters anymore. Lol. I understand your point. I would be very interested to watch a reel containing each error’s full at bat. Let’s get some popcorn!
20/20/70/.265 shortstop
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He’s only averaged 13 HR/650, and his SBs are essentially useless since he has a 67% success rate. If he were a better SS, he’d have some value. And it doesn’t help that the Mets are signaling that they are giving up on him.
That said, for the right price, I’d like to see the RS try to switch him to 2B,.
Yea… for another team.
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Indians fans are unrealistic about their financial situation and Lindor’s salary and control. They should take Rosario and J.D. Davis. Rosario is 25 this month. Average defender, chase rate will not be good. Mets are not giving up top everyday player prospect.
Bud Harrelson couldn’t hit and wasn’t the best defender either but, Mets fans loved him.
Larry Bowa was one of the best offensive and defensive SS in MLB, Phillies fans booed him.
Two generations later there’s little difference between Mets and Phillies fans.
I love how people assign personalities to fanbases as if there’s any real difference between massive amounts of people. All fanbases are the same.
That’s not true at all. Not even close
Not what I’ve experienced.
Cubs fans and ChiSox fans are not very similar…
Cards fans are nothing like any other fans…
Then there’s Red Sox Nation.
As a RS, I agree. I think RS fans are great, but Cards fans are on another level than anyone else. Just a great fan base.
Rosario is Jose peraza and his value is ziltch. The other positions referenced are bench and pinch runner
Rosario is bench and not pinch runner
As a RS fan, it isn’t close.
1-Rosario was a much better prospect, ranking in the top-10, while Peraza topped out at about #70.
2-Rosario’s career OPS+ is 91 while, before last year, Peraza was at 80.
3-Rosario is one year younger than Peraza was when the RS picked him up.
I liked the RS gamble last year, but it just didn’t work out. But I think Rosario definitely has more upside than Pereza. If you ignore 2020, which you mostly should, Rosario’s 2.4 bWAR, at age 23, is definitely interesting.
Peraza is a former ss bc of questionable D who has no power. And he was a top 30 if not a top 20 prospect at his height. Rosario is trending much the same friend
I don’t care where the Indians play Rosario