The Mets “recently contacted” infielder DJ LeMahieu, according to Jon Heyman of MLB Network. The fight for LeMahieu appeared to be between his previous team, the Yankees, as well as the Blue Jays, but it would be difficult to count the deep-pocketed Mets out of the mix. Signing LeMahieu would enable the Mets to send Jeff McNeil from second to third base, though it’s unclear what that would mean for J.D. Davis, who started the majority of Mets games at the hot corner in 2020.
- New Phillies president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski and Jeff Berry, the agent for free-agent catcher J.T. Realmuto, had a discussion Monday, Meghan Montemurro of The Athletic relays. Negotiations did not occur during that talk, but Dombrowski made sure to mention that the Phillies want Realmuto back, per Montemurro. They have made Realmuto an offer, Heyman relays.
- The Rangers are among the teams “believed” to have interest in right-hander Kohei Arihara, Mark Feinsand of MLB.com tweets. The 28-year-old Arihara, whom the Nippon Ham Fighters of Japan’s Nippon Professional Baseball posted earlier this offseason, logged a 3.74 ERA with 6.7 K/9 and 2.1 BB/9 over 836 innings. MLB teams have until Dec. 26 to sign Arihara.
- Minnesota native Brad Hand, one of the top relievers on the open market, told Darren Wolfson of SKOR North that he’d “love to play” for the Twins in 2021. However, the southpaw isn’t sure if the Twins are interested in signing him. Hand reached free agency when the division-rival Indians declined his $10MM club option after last season, which came as a surprise considering the 30-year-old was one of baseball’s top relievers in 2020.
Mets would be a World Series contender with DJ… who knows tho?
That’s a bit of a stretch.
No it’s not. We are without him. As long as they fill out the rotation.
“As long as we sign multiple top free agents, we’re great!”
Phew met fans have quickly become delusional
I’m a Mets fan and would say they’re still not. There’s one sure pitcher on that team – DeGrom. Stro hasn’t pitched in ages, Thor is recovering, and Peterson, while promising, needs to prove he can continue the progress he made last year.
If they do pursue DJL, it does free up some trade options, starting with McNeil and Davis for example if they went after an Arenado or Lindor. Toss in Smith if they sign Springer and it could get very interesting (or Alonso and move smith to 1B).
Did I say that. Just two decent pitchers and they are one of the best teams. That’s not something they won’t do either so I really don’t understand your post.
That means 1 more which seams about right. Springer and a couple middle of the rotation starters
@MetsFan22 running up the tab on the Mets and their fan base for a bill that they may not be able to pay.
One “sure” pitcher? DeGrom is the best pitcher in baseball. “Sure” is an understatement.
Few teams have “sure” starters outside of the Dodgers and they could just as easily lose a couple before the end of spring training just like the Mets did this past year with Syndergaard and Stroman. Adding a couple of top free agents could easily catapult them to near the top of the pack.
@MetsFan22 to be fair, adding 2 starting pitchers to virtually any team in the majors would be a game changer.
Then when the Mets sign two. (Which I’m already expecting) you’ll change your mind???
If they sign 2 quality starters they will jump significantly above Nats, Phils and Marlins. They still have a lot of work to do to pass the Braves. The game is not played on paoer, and Mets were pretty bad defensively. But I love their offseason so far. So yea. 2 quality starters and they’re a competitor for sure IMO.
McNeil is the best hitter on the team and under control for four years. Nothing frees them up to trade him.
The Mets will still be far behind the Dodgers, who figure to be much-improved in 2021. A team needn’t acquire more players to improve as talented young players tend to get better as they get older. The Dodgers have as much good young talent as anyone in the game. So, how exactly would the Mets be World Series contenders? The Dodgers have a better offensive, a better defense, better pitching, and more organizational depth. It’s the Dodgers….Braves…huge gap, Padres,,, and, then another huge gap to whoever is #4. Good luck trying to catch up to that.
You Mets fans are so wrong ! You weren’t contenders last year , and DJLM is going to change that ? The Yankees have a star studded lineup, and they had DJLM, and teams like the Rays and the Blue Jays still beat them out!!! Lol… You need pitching, plus DJLM, plus another stud outfielder, just to make the playoffs … FACT
No one in that division is catching Atlanta anytime soon. The Marlins have the best future of the other four thanks to their young pitching and farm system. My guess is that Kim Ng builds a perennial playoff contender.
One of the best? Defense is horrendous, starting and relief pitching is needed. And I wish I could say the farm system is ready to help.
They’re not getting past Atlanta or LA, even if they get DLJ.
Whooooa you’re angry!
Whoa you’re angry!
The Mets arent even the division favorites, much less the NL favorites, much less title favorites…
They have a LONG WAYS to go before they’re winning anything significant..
Since when did the Mets become good?? I must have missed the memo, but Mets fans are acting like they’re the Dodgers or something..
Even if they do sign a bunch of free agents, rarely does that ever truly lead to a title run. Fans should know by now, just because your team “wins” the offseason, it doesn’t mean you’re assured anything during the regular season…
I get it, y’all are excited, but pump the brakes, and try to he realistic with yourselves. The Mets have a LONG WAYS TO GO!!
Exactly. While the Mets aren’t bad, them going out and signing both Bauer and Springer to add on to McCann sounds like a recipe for disaster. Time and time again we see a team sign two or three big name free agents just to win 80-85 games and miss the playoffs. Has it ever worked? Sure, but those instances are few and far between. It’s been proven that a core built from internally supplemented with pieces from the outside work best, but not the other way around.
@MetsFan22 you don’t understand a lot of things apparently, lol.
Wishful thinking Mets fans,
Mets need to worry about winning the division, I don’t believe they are the best team in the NL east
Dodgers have about 10 starters lined up for 2021. They are the best team in NL if they resign Turner.
@Cey Hey, I agree with your assessment,100%. The Dodgers are the team to beat for the foreseeable future.
@Larry,
I sound like a Dodgers fan…..ugh. But, the Dodgers are the best team in baseball, even w/o Turner. No one else has the depth or farm that they do. And, one way or the other, they’ll finish up the off-season with a solid + bat/solid + defender at the hot corner, regardless of where Turner ends up.
You can say that again!
McNeil isn’t going anywhere. He is hitting better than Arenado, costs far less, and he has THREE years of arbitration/control AFTER the 2021 season. ONE season of Arenado is likely more costly than the next FOUR seasons of McNeil.
2021: $575k v. $35m
2020 Slash Lines
311/383/454/836 & 131 OPS+……1.5WAR
253/313/434/738 & 84 OPS+…….1.6WAR
Career Slash Lines
McNeil: 319/501/884 & 139OPS+
Arenado: 293/349/541/890 & 120OPS+
Avg WAR /yr:
McNeil: 3.1
Arenado: 4.89
Arenado is a multi-yr GG defensive wiz at 3B. McNeil is average to maybe a bit better than avg defense at 3B….but McNeil doesn’t have $199m left on his contract. Arenado is a great player, but that contract is underwater and moving ANY prospects to take on that contract is nuts. MAYBE if the Mets can jettison Cano back they can figure something out, but Arenado is *not* a good fit for the Mets. The Mets have to consider extensions for Syn, Conforto, Nimmo, McNeil, et al….so $35m AAV is a huge chunk to pay a superstar during his declining years.
Not for the Pirates…
CeyHey, look up the word “ contender”. Any team that has a legitimate shot at making the playoffs is a “contender”.
To me, signing McCann was necessary but I truly don’t think he adds wins over Ramos. He replaces him, it let’s give him +1 to be fair. Mets still need a catcher for the other 50 games. If they bring back Ramos, I give Ramos 3 over Nido.
Trevor May allows Lugo to stay in the rotation. This has a twofold win/win. May helps the Mets hang on to 3-4 more games they are leading because he bumps Familia, Betances and others down.
Lugo, spending a full season as a starter, replaces Wacha. That’s at least a plus 4 to me. Stroman for 30 starts instead of Porcello? How about +3. Peterson for a full season over Matz could be +6 alone. Whoever the #5 is just doesn’t have to suck until Syndergaard gets back.
We all KNOW the Mets are adding SOMETHING else. McNeil over Cano or McNeil over Davis.
Alonso had a horrible first 2/3, like all second year players, but still hit 16 hr in 60 games. Let’s call that even.
Rosario, who had a horrible year with the bat, was well below career numbers. I don’t think that’s trend-worthy, but rather no spring training and trying to do too much. Rosario averages over last year +2.
So we are about +20 wins over 2020 with a plethora of moves to be made without even discussing budget. It’s December, 4 months before the season starts, and none of the big free agents have left the board.
Mets only have to worry about being a wild card card team. Anything can happen in a series.
@bartolo. But Arenado over Davis? That’s a different story!
How about Story over Rosario? I think that’s a more logical move if we are dealing with the Rockies. Add Jon Gray to our rotation instead of Matz and those 2 alone might evolve into 10 wins.
I don’t know if the Mets really need LeMahieu per se, but if the DH comes back it definitely helps them
Cave, even if the Mets interest is just to tweak the Yankees and push the bidding war up, it certainly makes for an interesting discussion. I don’t think it makes the Mets the team to beat in the east.
@cave. I think Dh at bats just go to Davis or Smith.
We have too many left fielders and no true center. An outfield of Smith, Nimmo and Conforto is nice when they have bats in their hands.
They need pitching more than DJ.
Yes
Nah, Steven Matz or bust……
My money’s on bust
The Mets aint beating the Braves and probably will still be behind the Nats and maybe the Marlins as well. They need pitching and Alonso to be close to what he was in 2019. What set the Mets back was not rebuilding a few years back. That Cano trade was horrible for them and Ramos was awful and Cespedas stayed hurt. They should have traded Thor and stacked up the farm system they could have been like the Braves, Padres White Sox, Blue Jays and Rays as teams with a big window from a good farm system and perhaps be in the best position from the new owner coming in.
The Mets are right there with the Braves. Wth are you talking about. Don’t ever put us next to the marlins again lol
Yea the Marlins made the playoffs and won a series this year and have a good farm system…..
Now what did the Mets do?
The Mets are must closer to the Nats & Phillies than they are with the Braves. Mets need (2) new, quality starting pitchers and Springer to get in the same zip code as Atlanta. Even then, they won’t be favored to win the division. Freeman & Acuna are light years ahead of the 2 best Mets hitters.
That’s not a true statement at all… and the Mets are getting two pitchers so I don’t know why your assuming they don’t… springer is also likely. It’s not my fault my team will spend to improve and others won’t.
The Braves need to replace Ozuna too. Goes both ways.
Freeman and acuna are better but they aren’t light years ahead better….. cmon now
Alonso
And
McNeil
Come close.. plus after
Freeman and acuna
The Braves have no hitters better than
McNeil
Alonso
Smith
Conforto
And after Albies the Braves don’t have better hitters than Nimmo
Davis
The Mets have a deeper lineup
Than why were they a 4th place team?
Correction. the Mets were a last place team (with tie-breakers that were in place this year).
@marlinsfanbase Sorry I was giving them the benefit of the doubt and I think he forgot about Dansby and Travis
Tied for 4th :(
We can’t give the Mets benefit of the doubt because 1) the rules stated tie-breakers and 2) they were trending downward at the end of the season.
Last place it is!
Still tied for LAST place
Yes, in record they were tied, but with actual standings with tie-breakers, they had sole possession of last place.
Freeman & Acuna are good bats, but I’d take any of McNeil, Conforto & Alonso over them any day of the week
The Mets were injured last year. Bauer & Springer together will have them run away with the division.
Enjoy your last two months ahead of the Mets in Steve Cohen’s lifetime.
Acuna, Freeman, and Albies are better than any position players on the Mets. If you combined the rosters and held a draft, those three would go first. The Braves are also better defensively at every position. Mets fans to ignore defensive.
You mean don’t ever put the Mets next to the Marlins, right. Look at all of the moves Miami had to make just to get through this abbreviated season. They have a very young & competitive starting rotation. They’re going to make adjustments w their position players. The N.L. East should be very interesting for the next several years.
No front office person in MLB would take any Mets player over Freeman, Acuna, and Albies. Swanson and d’Arnaud, by the way, are far better than what the Mets have at their positions.
Since when is Albies better than any Mets player??
Mccan and gimenez are basically tda and Swanson dude. You still hate us from 2015 right?? When we made y’all shut up that year.
Since Albies made his MLB debut.
Don’t worry the Mets aren’t next to the Marlins, they’re below them..
And then some
McNeil and Conforto are better than Albies.
OK
DO THE METS HAVE A BETTER
1rst baseman better than FREEMAN
2nd baseman than ALBIES
ss better than SWANSON
catcher better than D’Arnaud
OF’er better than ACUNA
OF’er with better defense then pache
the answer is NO to all those questions
That a really big if you get Springer and Bauer. Mets might get one but I dought they both or all three. I don’t think Alonso will be even league average in 2021 if ever.
Well actually McNeil is better than Albies
Alonso is just behind freeman
Gimmez will probably be as good if not better than Swanson
Mccan and tda are the same
Acuna is better but the next 3 best OF (4 with springer) between the two teams are on the Mets
Pache is the best defender but to bad he hits like Marisnick
The Mets are actually below the Marlins, so technically you are right. The Marlins are far and away better than the Mets right now, and I don’t really see that changing.
The Mets were a dumpster fire organization under the corrupt and broke Wilpons. They had a toxic front office and have been a joke org for a number of years because of off the field drama of the front office. They have a top 5 lineup for the NL, if not top 3. They have the best pitcher in the game, but lost Syn & Stroman before the season. The BP was still pretty poor, but not quite as bad as two years ago. The Mets needs a few more pieces to compete with ATL because ATL *also* has a better scouting group, analytics group, and farm system than the Mets….and I say this as a diehard Mets fan. The Met’s analytic group was likely the worst in the NL and one of the worst in MLB. Cohen is trying to change that and the entire culture of losing.
ATL is the better team, currently, but let’s see how 2021 and 2022 go. I feel confident that in 2-3 years the Mets will be the team to beat in the NL East…but I’m not sure they can pull it all together for 2021.
Hey joedirt, who was your last Marlins 2 time cy young winner? Which one of your players broke the record for homeruns by a rookie? Which Marlins player might win a batting title?
How many Marlins pitchers have over 30 CAREER wins?
Who is the Marlins closer?
What did the Marlins starting catcher hit last season?
What Marlins hitter would START over his Mets counterpart?
@dorothy. Can you please compare McNeil and Conforto to the Braves best 2 hitters? No disrespect to Freeman, he’s great. But be honest, McNeil is the same type of hitter.
Are you serious? Freddie Freeman is an perennial MVP candidate, to compare any Mets hitter to Freeman is just disrespectful. The Mets don’t have any hitters better than Freeman, Acuna, Albies, or maybe even Darnaud.
@joedirt. Please do a position by position comparison and tell me where the Marlins are better than the Mets?
Please be honest. The Marlins got a bye last year because they had all their Covid games rescheduled and played BAD teams the last half of the season who were dealing with Covid and exhausted. The Marlins made the post season in a 2 month season. It’s ignorant and naive to think they can maintain a winning record over 162 games with AAA castoffs.
The Marlins are far and away a better team than the Mets, last year just proved that. They have a better future and a better current team than the Mets.
They’ve got a long way to go to get to WS contender
Not really
If the Mets signed Springer and Bauer, then traded for Arenado, Lindor and Snell without giving much talent up, they are a contender. So only 5 really big steps away from what @MetFan22 and @dilson_herrera are saying.
Mets defense hasn’t been very good in a long time and won’t be in 2021.
If they got springer, filled out bullpen more, and signed a tier 1 and tier 2-3 starter, how far away could they really be? That’s one of baseball’s best offenses last year plus a stable rotation and bullpen
If they spent 75-100M more per year, they’re gonna be great!!!!
What a hot take Dilson
I mean that’s pretty much exactly the plan, all of these have been all but explicitly said by the front office. Especially now that an extra $24 million is freed up by cano, and some of the relief depth could easily come from trading Davis or Nimmo if Springer is signed
Attention: Mets Fans…!!!
George Springer is signing with the Toronto Blue Jays…
Quit including him in your comments like he’s already on the Mets… You are so far away from competing that it IS FUNNY!!! It won’t happen in one year – and especially with the rest of the NL fighting to keep you where you are now – in last okace n your weak division !!!
Attention: Mets Fans…!!!
George Springer is signing with the Toronto Blue Jays…
Quit including him in your comments like he’s already on the Mets… You are so far away from competing that it IS FUNNY!!! It won’t happen in one year – and especially with the rest of the NL fighting to keep you where you are now – in last place in your weak division !!!
The Phillies showed everyone that you can’t make the big leap in one year.
Cause “money cant buy you love”
To be fair, the Mets have better pieces than the Phillies did. Phillies had Nola and Hoskins before they started to sign some FAs. That’s not enough. Mets have a solid core to build around.
Mets front office said that it would take 3-5 years to fix the Mets, The Mets are wanting to be competitive in 2021 and 2022 that’s all.
Could you please fine me where they said that… Cohen said if he doesn’t win a championship by 3-5 years he’ll be mad. Meaning he wants a shot at it the next 5 years…
Lmao, the Mets became a good team when?!?!? Are Mets fans like this because of big brother Yankee’s shadow? I’m very curious; especially since the Mets have the same chance of winning the World Series as the Marlins do
Very silly argument for both sides since free agent signings are far from being done with.
Last NY team to go to the World Series was little Brother Mets in 2015. Yanks went the entire Teens decade without getting to the Series. Might be the first time in their history that happened.
Last 5 NY teams to win a World Series were the Yankees.
Last 5 NL East teams to win the World Series were not the Mets.
Are you the lone remaining Marlins fan? How quaint!
The Marlins WILL be coming up soon, Im a Braves fan, But i know there coming, There doing the right things
Marlins are already on the come up, and they have arrived!! With their young pitching slowly but surely making a huge impact for them, and then by adding in some veteran pieces, the Marlins will be right back in the playoffs on a regular basis!!
That’s the case especially if they can hit on some of their up and coming position prospects!!
Sixto Sanchez, Sandy Alcantara, Edward Cabrera, Braxton Garrett, Pablo Lopez, Trevor Rogers, Jordan Yamamoto, Nick Neidert, Jorge Guzman, and Elisier Hernandez, among probably others I’m not even aware of they got coming up…They have 6-7 LEGIT up and coming starting pitchers, and all of the aforementioned 10 starters they can use as quality depth moving forward!! Teams would KILL for that kind of SP depth!!
These are no longer the lowly joke that was the Marlins previously!! This team is for real, and they’re about to he here to stay for several years if their young pitchers continue to progress..Then they got Devers, Diaz, Encarnacion, and Sanchez among others coming up as budding bats ready to make an impact early on…
They’re going to be giving teams fits next season already, but come 2022 and for the foreseeable future the Marlins could very well be a real force and a real yearly contender!! Everyone mocked Jeter and Co., but he is about to make all his doubters look really stupid the next few seasons…BOOK IT!!
And the worst part about it all…This is coming from a Braves fan!!!
I think the Marlins had no business in the playoff in 2020. I think the Mets will finish above the Marlins in 2021, but not much above them and will still be in the lower half of the division.
Max Meyer is another quality arm to keep and eye on. Dax Fulton as well but he is very young. The rotation could be Sixto , Edward Cabrera, Alcantara, Lopez, and Meyer. Mix and match anyone you said (though I think Guzman is for the pen and Yamamoto is done for).Neidert and Rogers have potential and Eliser does as well. Some could be traded for bats. The offense they are waiting for is JJ Bleday, Peyton Burdick, Kameron Misner, Jerar Encarnacion, along with Lewin Diaz and Jesus Sanchez. Jazz is already up. And Brian Anderson is a very underated player who is only getting better. The fish are definitely on the right track. I think Braves V Marlins is going to be awesome for a couple years.
Doubt it
tward09: Doubt it? They made it to and won a series in the playoffs this year. Look at all of the maneuvering they had to do just to field a team due to Covid-19. Don’t give us that injury crap. The Marlins also have a good rotation plus an up and coming farm system.
In fairness, the Mets lost Syndergaard and Stroman last year… not many teams lose their 2 and 3 sp and do well especially in a short season… Their offense is solid.. Conforto and smith are becoming stars, McNeil balances a lineup, Alonso for power.. it’s a strong lineup, and adding springer would make a big impact.. McCann helps the staff over Ramos.. may helps.. If they stay healthy they should easily be a playoff team (if they add springer and a decent SP)
Stroman and Syndergaard are overrated.
The Mets have nice individual pieces in their lineup, but they don’t mesh or compliment each other. They have days of all offense, followed by more days of nothing.
Also, the Mets have horrible defense and baserunning. They are holding onto some of the same players that are the reason they they suck on defense and baserunning. How many star players do you have to add to overcome the players that are horrible on defense and baserunning?
Any more bad responds today or will you take a break?
Any more delusional responses today or will you take a break?
when is Marlin’s next fire sale?
After the next WS victory.
You may not like Syndergaard, but he’s solid… his worst year was a 3.6 FIP w more than a K an inning and over 4 k/bb… lifetime 3.31/1.16 119 era+… the whole Thor crap aside – losing him made a difference… he’s a 4 WAR sp…
Agree that Stroman isn’t great, but he’s a decent #3… a 3 WAR sp.. losing both hurt and most likely cost 4-6 wins, which meant a playoff berth in a 1/3 of a season and some really bad analyses on MLBTR message boards
Last year the BP hurt them a few times again, but it was really terrible SP… to have to use Wacha and Lugo (who is great in BP but not as SP) vs Thor and Stroman is a big drop off… they had 15 starts between them w well over a 6 era
Yeah seriously that was a terrible response
They didn’t win ‘a series’ in the playoffs. It was ONE wild card game. They were SWEPT in the following series.
The Marlins were 2 games over .500 and played the Phillies 7 straight games in September. They were UNDER .500 for the entire season if you take out just those 7 games. Please, be realistic.
Looking at the 2021 schedule, Marlins probably start out 10-18 and will be sellers once again before the deadline.
Let’s revisit this talk in June.
Colon. No!
if the Mets sign Springer they don’t need DJ. what they do need is pitching.
#LGM
Mets have “talked” to LeMahieu, and…..Springer and Bauer and they even talked to Realmuto before they signed McCann. Just doing due diligence. The hot stove is ice cold so we have nothing else to talk about. Very small chance they actually sign LeMahieu.
Exactlty. They are a garbage team.
Lol
Haha
Beautiful, constructive analysis. Maybe the NY Post comment section would be a better fit for you lmao.
Lol arte moreno is a Steve Cohen hater
New ownership, new management, same ridiculous fan base.
Garbage team? Are you talking about your Angels?
Wouldn’t it be funny if they STILL signed Realmuto? Well, not to the fans of the other nl east teams.
Bottom line is they are still going to add another catcher. They will add a center fielder. They will add at least one (probably 2) starters.
They have aggressive new ownership who isn’t asking his accountants what moves to make.
The Mets still have a 2 time cy young winner, a home run champion, a potential batting champion and a very formidable top half of their order. Their number 2 pitcher is fresh and a former #1 in the al east. They have a 2nd year pitcher who had a better won loss record than their ace.
They are young, hard working players who stay out of trouble. The team this new owner inherited has a lot of very good working parts and a few glaring broken areas which can readily be fixed.
The LeMahieu camp leaking a rumor a day to try and get the Yankees to move on their offer. He’s great, but if the reported ask is correct at 5/125, the Yankees would be wise to let him walk as he turns 33 next season. He likely just put up his two peak years.
I think if the bigger offer was out there, DJ would be signed by now. At this point, I think the Yankees would just be bidding against themselves.
Go get Hand twinkies!! That would be a great signing.
Hand?
Brad Hand…from this article.
Anyone know if McNeil can play short stop?
I’d say if not trade Davis for bullpen arm or a back of the rotation pitcher.
Looking at their roster mets have a pretty solid rotation and lineup.
Their bullpen is fine. Their rotation is a huge question mark after Stroman. Thor would normally be fine, but he’s going to need some recovery time.
Mets’ fans overvalue Stroman by a huge margin; the guy is a solid 4 or 3 at best
@VST I agree, and I say the same of Thor. But they do have the best #1 in the game and a pretty fantastic bullpen on paper. So I think they’ll be fine adding 2 more middle rotation guys.
Not in the NL East. They need another frontline pitcher (legit #2). And their bullpen has a bunch of ????
The Mets fans need to keep the pie hole shut until they actually win something. They have the longest championship drought in the NL East, but their fans sound like they are the freaking Yankees.
And you think Toronto traded Stroman because he’s a solid “team guy”?… Stroman only cares about Stroman – and he’s constantly running his mouth about how good he is – but he’s a solid #4 starter, and in a weak rotation might become a #3.
VonHayes is spot on. The rotation needs to be fixed
Hey Von, our rotation after DeGrom is still better than than the Phils after Nola. Yes, Wheeler is good. Oh wait, where did he come from via free agency?
Eflin is a 5, maybe a 4 only because Arrietta is a 5.
The Phils haven’t finished above .500 and just LOST the best catcher in baseball. They just lost Gregorius who had a very good year. Hoskins, while he had a bounce back year, is really trending the wrong way. Kingery looks much more like a utility player than a 25/25/.300 hitter. Segura’s best years are behind him. Phils May have had the worst bullpen in the majors. Cutch misses more games every year.
They couldn’t finish above .500 WITH a healthy Nola, Wheeler, Realmuto, Harper, Gregorius, Segura, Hoskins…
McNeil has started 42 games at SS professionally, almost all of which were with St. Lucie (High A)
Love your name man lol capn kirk
Tatsumaki:
In 2019 McNeil had a -1 DRS at 2B, and a -2 DRS in 2020. So, since it appears McNeil is not that good at 2B, I seriously doubt he could handle the SS position. He could possibly get by at 3B.
Davis is worth more than that.
tidybowlman:
As an above average hitter, about a 15% above, his -19 DRS at 3B over his 4 year career, makes his worth not exceptional.
Nobody is trading for Davis to fill a hole in their lineup.
If Hand is interested in being a Twin, find some way to meet in the middle and make it happen.
I agree, Hand would be a great addition to the Twins pen.
Arihara is more of a back end starting pitcher than an ace
but Dombrowski made sure to mention that the Phillies want Realmuto back, per Montemurro.
Well the Sillies gave up a lot to get him, so it would make sense to….
The trade is a sunk cost. He’s just another free agent.
That statement makes zero sense.
I don’t know if the Mets are the new Blue Jays or the Blue Jays are the new Mets. I do know if they’re a FA & have a pulse both teams are in on them!
Everyone is chasing the Dodgers right now, and nobody is close!
Nobody is close? This is not a bright comment… the MLB is not the NBA where the champion is known basically before the season starts; a dodgers fan must know how hard it is to win a World Series…even if you have the most talent
It’s also hard to stay good. Red Sox won 108 games in 2018 and now they are in shambles.
The Dodgers have been in the world series 4 out of the last 5 years!
From a total talent perspective, he is right. No team is close to the Dodgers when you look at their 40 man roster; however, the most talent in baseball does not always make it to the ship, let alone win it. It would be impressive if LA is able to repeat as champs even with the best collection of players.
Dodgers have a young team, and Fangraphs has them with a projected WAR of 44.3 which is first and they haven’t added a third basemen yet. They have a good farm system, and a lot of money. What else do they need.
Talent is one thing TEAMWORK is another
slider32:
That means nothing. When was the last time a team repeated as WS champs? Twenty years ago when the Yankees did it.
It is tough to stay on top. All it takes is players like Kershaw and Turner aging, and a crucial injury or two.
Yes on paper they look to be the best team, but this is baseball, and who looks good on paper often doesn’t win it all.
@andremets And it’s really this kind of attitude a lot of Mets fan here have that the Mets should just push all their chips in next season. It can go wrong and then you’re stuck with bad contracts for a long time. But hey, it’s Cohen’s money.
What the heck in the name of Robinson Cano, Jason Bay, Bobby Bonilla, David Wright, Yoenis Cespedes, etc. are you talking about?
Three of the last four* and they’ve won it once. The Nationals, who were at one point 24-33 during 2019, won it all, and beat the Dodgers on their way to the World Series. Baseball isn’t basketball. The Dodgers could trade for Mike Trout and it doesn’t guarentee them anything. When the Giants won 3/5 World Series, they weren’t the most talnted team in each of those years. The trio of Greg Maddux, John Smoltz and Tom Glavine won just one World Series.
How many more years of prime deGrom are we going to get. Cohen can afford a bad deal and we have almost 60 million to spend under the cap. They owe it to deGrom to get Bauer
That’s why won’t see Friedman making a big splash this winter. They can continue to contend while keeping the payroll in order. Just find an adequate righty bat to share 3B with Rios until Hoese is ready in 2022. And it’s not as if Rios is helpless against left-handers.
A Marlin’s fan shouldn’t be bagging on the Mets for some of their signings. The Marlins have largely been a AAA team for the past decade. That said, they have a brighter future than the dumpster fire Phillies, but they are still behind ATL and the Mets. If the Marlins could have better financial support going forward, I’d choose them ahead of the Nats for having a brighter future because of the ridiculous $$ the Nats have on the books in deferred payments. The Marlins will be a fun club to watch over the next few years, but they will definitely be punching up attempting to catch ATL and Mets.
At least the Marlins are starting to develop draft picks and trade for major league prospect. But prospects are also suspects. How has Brinson faired?
Bottom line, if Miami wants a major league franchise, they should at least act like one financially. Some with Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Seattle…
I’d really like to see the Red Sox sig Brad Hand. They desperately need bullpen help and given that all 30 teams passed on the chance to claim him for just $10 you have to assume he’s going to sign for less than that AAV — so if he can be had for 3/$24M or so… I think the Red Sox should jump all over that — because it’s been several years now that they’ve been in need of a legitimate closer (since Kimbrel left) — and guys like Hand don’t become available for nothing more than $ all that often — nevermind that he will probably cost less than $10M a year. In any normal off-season getting a guy who regularly posts a 2.00-ish ERA for that little a salary would be a no-brainer.
As much as I would love DJ back I don’t like how he’s holding up the off season plans for the Yankees. DJ wants the Yankees, The Yankees want DJ get this done. If not trade for Lindor.
Why do all these “fans” want to give up top talent for a rental player? Wait a year and sign Lindor next off-season.
The Sox will whiff on Hand but WILL sign Fingers…who, even at his age, would be an improvement…..
I’m worried about the velocity drop that Hand showed this past season. It makes me wonder if there are shoulder or elbow issues to worry about. I too would love to see Boston sign him but only if his physical comes back ‘perfect’.
Maybe the drop in velocity was by design for more movement? Mph for pitchers is greatly over rated, especially at the expense of control and movement.
Connor Byrne insists on perpetrating the premise that it was “surprising” the Tribe didn’t pick up Hand’s option. Wouldn’t then it be even MORE surprising when Hand went unclaimed through waivers when the 29 other teams didn’t think he was worth the same option the cheapskate Tribe ddn’t want to pick up?
But then,pointing that out wouldn’t allow the narrative about Cleveland to carry on, now would it?
Although the narrative may not be applicable to the Hand situation, there is plenty of evidence to support the narrative such as the trading of Von Hayes, Rick Sutcliffe and Joe Carter. One misfire does not absolve four decades of truth.
Oh, for the love of….
Did you just climb out of a time capsule? That’s three ownership groups ago, none of whom ever won!
May I remind you, the Cleveland Indians have the seventh best all-time record in MLB, 3rd best in the AL behind NY and BOS, and the only true small market in the top seven.
Stop beating dead horses that expired decades ago.
DJ is going to remain a Yankee. Period. All this is fluff.
If the Yankees are serious about getting below the CBT this season then DJ needs to come down on his asking price. There’s no way NY can pay him $25M/yr and stay below the CBT. Even $20M/yr. puts them in a spot where they can’t add much else beyond him. The Yankees project to be around $185M towards the CBT threshold of $210M right now. $25M pushes them up to $210M by itself. Any chance the Yankees would look to trade Judge this year? That would open $12-$15M for them and not have to worry about re-signing Judge to a big contract only to watch him sit out more than 1/2 his games due to injury. Yankees still need to sign a pitcher or two on top of DJ, so they either need to move on from DJL or decide to go over the CBT for the third consecutive year.
Dorothy
We’re Yankee fans, can’t we have both? Lol
Seriously, it’s time to move on.
Yankees need to stop giving out LONG contracts, most of them go bad -like now
Mcneil is someone I would love to see in pinstripes. I know it sounds dumb but I would want him on a cheap contract over DJ and the contract hes seeking.
What would Yanks offer the Mets for McNeil?
He’s so much fun to watch.
Yankees already have enough DHs. Why would they want another?
This guy just called McNeil a DH guys. I’ve official won all arguments against him!
You have never won an argument against me. You’ve look like a buffoon every single time you’ve debated me.
Let me remind you of some of your classic statements:
“Even in 60 games, the Marlins will finish 15 games out of fourth place; 25 games out of first.”
“Mets have the best lineup in the East”
“Marcel Ozuna isn’t as good as the Mets OFs.”
“Mets have had more roster issues than the Marlins and Braves.”
“Braves aren’t as good as everyone thinks.”
Don’t worry man, your testicles will drop soon enough.
Mets do have the best lineup
Conforto
Nimmo
McNeil
Are all better than Ozuna
It’s funny how you actually think the marlins have a better roster
Ozuna might be better than those three combined, and I’d take the braves and maybe the Phillies offense over the mediocre Mets any day. And the Marlins do have a better roster, considering they are a playoff team while the Mets are looking up from last place. You’re absolutely delusional.
2020 hitting stats support that the Mets and Braves arguably have the best lineups in MLB.
BAA/OBP/SLG/OPS MLB Rankings
Mets: 1st, 2nd. 4th. 3rd..
Braves: 2nd, 1st, 2nd, 1st.
Marlins 7th, 17th, 25th, 23rd
Phillies 9th, 3rd, 10th, 7th
Nationals 4th, 6th, 11th, 10th
So….yeah. MarlinsFanBase poster….feel free to be wrong, again.
The harsh reality with Davis is that he is basically unplayable at 3B on a team that (at least currently) can’t put him anywhere else. I’m not sure how much value he has to other teams, but I don’t think he’s a fit on the Mets.
I will say that I’m kind of skeptical that the Mets are doing anything more than due diligence on DJ.
It doesn’t sounds dumb at all. Mcniel is a stud.
As a Met fan. Please stay away from the overrated short porch HR machine
Angels need to get Hand and solidify that Bullpen
Angels need a LOT more than that… especially 5 starting pitchers
If the twins haven’t even checked in on Hand they must see something they don’t like
A Price Tag?
The Yankees could decide not to overbid on DJ, and make this a year to get under the CBT threshold. It’s not the worst idea. They will be competitive with or without him, and could make the playoffs without him. Once there…
I don’t know how the rest of us are going to tolerate Mets fan, they are like a month into the new ownership and Mets fan has gone full “Dynasty” mode.
The Mets suck, and until they prove otherwise no one wants to hear about them 25 hours a day.
Amen
Some of it is too much for me, as a Mets fan. I see so many people complaining that they haven’t signed every possible big name player less than two months into free agency
I have a lot of optimism in the upcoming season, but I don’t believe in making big declarations based on signings and trades. Anybody who has been a fan of the Mets long-term should understand the foolishness of that.
Certain Mets fans (like @MetsFan22) are really running up that tab that the team may not be able to pay, and other credible Mets fans don’t want to feel the ridicule for when things go badly later.
@MarlinsFanBase
Spot-on. I won’t pretend I agree with every point you’ve made about the Mets, but I think you’re absolutely correct to call out exaggerations and premature boasting.
When the Mets are in first place next year. I hope you aren’t rooting for them..
I’ll be rooting for the Mets whether they finish with 100 wins or 100 losses. But if it’s the latter, I won’t feel like I’ve made a fool of myself bragging or making wild predictions about a disappointing team.
MetsFan22 is definitley counting his chickens before they hatch.
Whatever man. When everyone here is gone bc I was right… I’ll be right here…
As a Mets fan I’m optimistic they’ll sign a solid bat and one or two more SP… I think that would make us very strong… to put stock in last year is silly especially w two key sp out… but I also know we’d still be one key injury away from being mediocre… games are never won on paper and never will be
Give MetsFan22 credit for one thing: no more guarantees that Betts would be a Met.
You making things up now??? When did I ever guarantee that????
You are absolutely right!! Where were the Nets fans last year at this time? I’ll remind you: they were cryin about their useless lineup and their overrated pitching rotation . Prediction : Its 2030, and Steve Cohen has had enough !!! He’s selling the Mets back to the Wilpons for 1/2 of what he paid for the team. The Mets have been the NL’s worst team since 2020!!! Lol
We did see MetsFan22 disappear midseason when his predictions were the perfect ammo for ridicule. He popped in occasionally in the one or two moments the Mets looked like they would turn things around, and when I called him out and he came up with his lame excuses, but other than that, he was absent.
No I wasnt. But please keep making things up
Own up to it man. You are always on here defending them no matter what. They win 3 games in a row and you come on talking about how it’s time here they come. Then they lose 5 out of 7 and you disappear.
It’s fine to be a homer man. Just own it at least. It looks bad to say everything you do then be wrong and then deny it.
Not sure why so many fans, and that’s fans of all teams BTW, think if you get a bunch of good hitters together you’re WS bound. It takes a lot more than that.
Also, the Mets need 2 pitchers. Finding 2 effective mid-rotation arms is a lot easier said than done.
But what really bothers me is the Met’s IF defense. Mcneil is subpar at 2b, But Rosario is just bad, and so is Davis. Both Rosario and Davis have played 4 seasons, and while Davis has a -19 DRS over that stretch at 3B, Rosario has a -35 DRS at SS.
Clearly, they need more than 2 pitchers, although signing LeMahieu to play 2B and moving McNeil to 3B would help a lot. But they really do need a more effective glove at SS, along with the pitching.
Shhhh….MetsFan22 likes to ignore that the Mets defense and baserunning sucks; their pitching is overrated mediocrity; and their lineup is a bunch of individually good bats that don’t mesh well or compliment each other.
MarlinsFanBase…we actually agree on a few things. The Mets’ defense has stunk for the better part of a decade, maybe longer. Their base running is generally atrocious too. As for the lineup, we differ there, as they had too many bats last year and the shortened season didn’t help them.
Well good thing gimenez is playing SS…….
MetsFan22:
If that is true then you’re right, that is a good thing, And despite the fact that he has a weenie bat, his glove is much better than Rosario’s, even if it isn’t great. I would worry a little though if I were you, seeing as how he is just 22, and has not played a game at AAA. He could be overwhelmed by MLB as a lot of young, inexperienced players are.
I’m not one to root against players in general, and I hope he does well. But for one with high hopes, asking that a young guy like Gimenez can help you go deep in the PS is asking a lot.
Gimenez isn’t a bad hitter. I promise you his ops is around 750 with a 270 avg next year. It’s not good but he would be our weakest hitter. He also has a GG caliber glove.
GG-caliber glove? First, he needs to prove that he can stick on the roster. He is by no means a sure thing, especially with a bat in his hands. The league will figure him out. Who knows if he will adjust. That’s the danger of moving on from Rosario. While Amed has been inconsistent at the plate and unsteady with the glove, he gives the Mets an experienced option if Gimenez can’t handle it. Between these two players, the hope should be to get one reliable, everyday SS.
Doesn’t matter if he can’t hit. I said he has GG caliber glove… which is true. I’m not saying he’ll win the GG… he just has a good enough glove to win
MetsFan22:
It’s still not a sure thing that Gimenez can handle MLB, especially playing in NY. Young players can get overwhelmed by big league pitching. And he wouldn’t be the first inexperienced kid to take his struggles at the plate out to the IF.
Like I said, I would like to see the kid succeed, but expecting he will is not the wisest approach. He also wouldn’t be the first kid to be sent down to work out issues.
You’re assuming a lot, and I would guess you lack the decades of experience watching this game that many of us have. As a friendly suggestion from someone who’s been a fan for over 60 years, I’d suggest you continue to hope more but predict less. Teams with more promise and fewer questions than the Mets have fallen far short plenty of times before. And you don’t want to be like that guy measuring the niche for Kyle Schwarber’s bust at the HoF.
No I’m not saying you’re wrong. Gimenez might be overwhelmed offensively next year. But his defense is legit. It won’t get worst. He has amazing defense and he is legit already a top 10 defensive SS
Honestly, I think the metrics even understate how bad Davis and Rosario are on defense. I hear Carmen No. 1 every time either of them touches the ball.
Yes
Rosario is a strange one to watch. All the reps as SS over the years and he still looks uncomfortable, and that walkless streak doesn’t play well in the modern game. Gifted athletically but an enigma on the field. He’s one of those guys who have a major breakout one year and never come close to that again.
Signing 2 really good starters are had just ask the Angels, they have been trying to do just that for like 5 years.
I feel the Mets signing Bauer would be a lot better signing, then Springer given the choice.
YOUR right , The mets need pitching more than OF help, But Bauer will cost too much, better for them to sign a few middle of the rotation guys, no matter who they sign, nobody will come even close to being the ace of the mets!! Its already taken
Re Brad Hand: every FO in baseball is looking at the same peripherals. That’s why teams aren’t making a major push to sign him. No one wants to get burnt. It will be telling if the Twins pass after Hand’s comments.
Still can’t believe nobody claimed Hand for 1y-10m.
Still mad the Phillies weren’t the ones to do it.
They need to be in on him.Feel like whatever deal he’ll end up signing,it’s gonna be a steal for whoever gets it done.1 for 10 seems pretty fair,so getting him for less than that would be pretty good.
It doesn’t work that way. if it was him being dfa’d he would go through waivers. his option was declined so he don’t go through the waiver process he goes straight to free agency
He was put on outright waivers prior to his option being declined. Every team had a shot at him but declined. Indians declined his option after every team passed on grabbing him.
“The fight for LeMahieu appeared to be between his previous team, the Yankees, as well as the Blue Jays, but it would be difficult to count the deep-pocketed Mets out of the mix.”
As a Mets fan, I never thought I would hear these words for the longest time.
DJ flirtation may be message to Springer to close the effin deal already … Realize George, Mets can go a lot of ways, maybe bolster 3B instead and go D first in CF.
I think the Marlins had no business in the playoff in 2020. I think the Mets will finish above the Marlins in 2021, but not much above them and will still be in the lower half of the division.
It seems doubtful that the Twins will sign Had Brand
That spoonerism works loosely to describe a few things, namely the volatility of RPs. Off top of my head,it was 2017 or 2018 when Hand was THE elite relieverbat the trade deadline. His peak was elite, yet short-lived.
I mean the mets would have to sign a 2009 yankees style FA class to be contenders. if they signed: Bauer, Springer, and say LeMahieu that would certainly be a 2009 yankees
Lineup, arguably better rotation, but their bullpen would definitely be worse.
rotation:
DeGrom
Bauer
Stroman
4th
5th
lineup:
lemahieu
conforto
springer
mcneil
Alonso/smith
mcann
as a top 6. if they include DH or plan on having DH in 2021/2022, I think it would be smart to keep Alonso and smith.
Not impossible for them to be a contender, but they would need to go yankees 2009.
Just dont see the need for the Mets to go all in right now-
They can better leverage money at the deadline
Pick up Sugano and Kluber on a 1+1 and Pillar for a 4th OF and break camp
Even in a scenario where they don’t sign Springer, the Mets need somebody on the roster who can play passable defense in CF. Pillar doesn’t fit the bill.
I’m now getting the impression Cashman wants to lose out on DJ and save face to the fans. If the holdup truly is one year (Yankees offering 4, DJ wants 5) I don’t understand how the deal isn’t done. Its the NY freaking Yankees and it’s one year on a contract. They didn’t mind trading for Stanton and giving Cole 10 years. They didn’t mind tacking on some years to Chapman’s deal. STOP SCREWING AROUND.
It’s only a matter of time before other teams start to realize they can pry him away from the Yankees and start making offers.
Does Cash actually want DJ or does he want to say he tried to get DJ?…..two very different things.
@Joe Momma – Yankees added one year to Chapman. Otherwise I believe you are correct that Cashman does not really want DJ unless on Cashman’s terms. We might need another SP but otherwise we get under the luxury tax for next season and we can get Lindor or Storey and whomever else is needed to get to the big show.
I never thought Cashman wanted to sign DJ. I assume this is all for show. Assuming Gleyber goes to 2nd, then DJ is completely redundant. I they’d be better off, even without payroll considerations, signing Didi for 3 years, moving Gleyber to 2B, and sticking with Voit.
Adding in the payroll factor, the difference between DJ & Didi might be a decent #5 SP. He’s a good player, but not young, and not a good fit. Painful, but smart of Cashman to move on.
The Mutts are, have been, and always will be trash. No players want to sign there because it is known what a joke that organization is. The pieces on that roster do not fit. They were not competitive last year, and they won’t be competitive in 2021. Any further discussion of the Mutts would be a waste of time.
How is the weather on your planett lolzmets? As you clearly aren’t of this world and our weather because nothing you wrote makes sense….but maybe your weather is better?
New ownership will change things not a Mets fan but with the richest owner in baseball there could be a new sheriff in town. Not even the mighty Yankees money machine can match the Mets new owner look out for the future.
Don’t humor the trolls
Wait, what? Conforto, Nimmo, and McNeil are all better than Ozuna?
This article implies that the Mets have JUST NOW contacted DJL’s camp? I find it hard to believe that this is the first contact.
Dombrowski probably offered Realmuto a high ranking Phillies prospect. He’s got to get to work wrecking their farm system.
I’m a little surprised Atlanta has not emerged as a dark horse for LeMahieu. If they don’t re-sign Ozuna, DJ would make a good 3B candidate (with Austin Riley playing LF until the NL DH is permanent and Drew Waters takes over OF). LeMahieu isn’t the same type of “big bat” as Ozuna, but he could hit all over that lineup. If they opted for DJ as a lead-off man, maybe Acuna makes the transition to 3rd in the order.