The Twins are discussing Jose Berrios with multiple teams including the Padres and Dodgers, tweets Jon Morosi of MLB Network. According to SNY’s Andy Martino, the Mets are not one of those other clubs at this time.
Berrios, 27, figures to be wildly popular on the trade market since he’s under team control for 2022 as an arbitration eligible player. He ranks ninth in MLB with 121 2/3 innings, sporting a 3.48 ERA, 25.7 K%, and 6.5 BB%. Berrios appears to have little interest in giving the Twins a discount on an extension, so naturally the team is listening to potential trade offers. Dan Hayes of The Athletic wrote this month, “Early indications are the Twins asked another team that inquired about Berríos for a pre-arb player and two top-100 prospects.” Speaking of top 100 prospects, Baseball America just updated their list.
In an earlier tweet, Morosi suggested the Yankees, Red Sox, Giants, Dodgers, Padres, Astros, and Phillies “are active in the starting pitching market now.” But it’s difficult to name any contender that couldn’t push aside their worst starting pitcher for Berrios.
I don’t know why everyone is assuming the Cubs are going to trade all of their good players. It makes no sense. In fact, I am willing to wager they will not trade anyone of significance. And before you ask, no, Joc Pederson was not a significant trade. He was on a one year deal and hitting below average and his trade value is apparently a fringe prospect.
The Cubs trade Joc for a fringe prospect who might not even make the majors and casual baseball fans are SCREECHING. RIZZO TRADE, BRYANT TRADE, Bryce Ball means Rizzo will be traded, CONTRERAS TRADE.
I will believe all of the speculation when I see it
You have influenced me to never go on Tik-Tok.
@ southern lion: Yeah, I don’t feel like I’m missing out on it either.
Would make no sense to keep Bryant unless Cubs management is willing to give him the huge contract he’s looking for.
You know he is going to ask top dollar from the Cubs after the service time manipulation! I say get what they can in a trade from Mets, Giants, Brewers(I doubt he stays in the NL central) or Phillies
It doesn’t make sense to keep Bryant unless they think they can win this year, whether they want to give him big money or not
Cubs will trade Kimbrel and Bryant. They’d be silly not to. Davies probably gets dealt in the next day or two, the other two will get dealt Thursday or Friday. No, I am not saying Davies is significant.
Have to trade all of Bryant, Davies, Rizzo and Baez or none of them. Not just Bryant.
So you believe the better solution is to keep Rizzo, Bryant, and Baez and risk losing them for nothing when they become free agents after this year, rather than trading them for some decent prospects that might help them compete later?
Well, they would get a 2022 draft pick
Yes, I think the better solution is to keep good players and try to compete this year, next year, and the next year. Instead of giving up and saying “welp, guess we will lose for a few years and not even try” That’s the thinking that caused them 108 years without a world series. I don’t want to wait until 2124 for the next world series.
No, your thinking is what caused 108 years of not winning. Being realistic and blowing it up is what led to them being good for a 5ish year window and actually winning a WS. Your handle is perfect though, makes me wonder if you’re trolling people or serious, so well done.
Not moving expiring assets who are unlikely to resign with your team in a sellers trade market where their value is enhanced is more in line with “That’s the thinking that caused them 108 years without a world series”
The cubs have around 70 mil on the books for next season (including arb raises). They can move some of these players who they do not control long term, get future assets to strengthen a fast rising farm with a ton of quality depth in the lower minors, and then use their financial might to take advantage of what is shaping up to be one of the deepest FA classes ever.
Holding onto all “core” players when some of them aren’t near as productive as they’ve been in the past, while they also want more money than their worth isn’t a viable team building strategy.
Sure, trading away all of your good players is a strategy. But this so called “tanking” isn’t a good strategy. You basically give up half the time. You could try to compete all of the time and have a 50% chance of making the playoffs. Or you could tank, have a 0% chance at playoffs because you have already given up on the season, to increase your odds to maybe 75% chance of playoffs in the non-tanking years. Some quick math will show 75%/2 = 37..5% chance of making playoffs on average. Lower than the average if you compete every year. So this proves I am right. Tanking is playing the lottery, you get lucky once in a while, but ask the Orioles how tanking since 2012 is going for them?
It’s not about tanking, it’s about getting something for guys on expiring contracts.
You seem to ignore the fact that the Cubs are going to lose all these guys at the end of the season, They will get a comp pick if a QO is offered, and rejected, but the Cubs have to determine if what they can get in trade exceeds the value of the comp picks.
It’s bad strategy to just say no to trading guys, especially when you know that you probably won’t be able to re-sign most of them. If there is competition among teams for a guy like Bryant, the return in trade probably exceeds the comp pick.
Dear Influencer (whatever that is),
The Os haven’t been tanking since 2012. they had a 4 or 5 year run where they did quite well, ascending to the post season 3 of those years.
However, to your point, the previous 14 seasons were a function of incompetence, not tanking. The tanking began in 2018 and has resulted in a top 10 farm system – this is what small and mid-market teams do to compete with LA, NY and Chicago payrolls.
Hot takes may work on TikTok but frequently reveal more about one’s lack of knowledge that anything else.
-Os fan
yes a lot of people think it is a sure thing.. when there are no sure things in baseball.. the winners tend to be the rich clubs.. who can fill voids by assuming large contracts.. and the next are clubs that gamble rather than waiting for the sure thing..
Tik
You must have slept through 2016 when they ( Orioles) played the Jays in the wild card.
Lol making up numbers and percentages to “prove” something right
Meanwhile, in the land of reality, the Cubs are not likely to make the playoffs. Would take a lot of work to grab the second wildcard, and most don’t see that happening. They will be losing some of their players in the off-season. Getting something for them before the deadline is better than compensatory picks.
Love the arbitrary percentages you just completely made up and then used those made up numbers to claim you were correct.
Yes, I think the better solution is to keep good players and try to compete this year, next year, and the next year. Instead of giving up and saying “welp, guess we will lose for a few years and not even try” That’s the thinking that caused them 108 years without a world series. I don’t want to wait until 2124 for the next world series.
Trying to push and win and constantly trading the future for win now players is how you don’t win for 108 years. Rebuilding and finding young cheap players is how you achieve sustainable success.
You can’t try to win next year with players who aren’t going to be on the team. Extend them or trade them, they’re already not winning this year. Unless you think they have a hot streak in them and will get in the playoffs this year, which is possible I guess.
This team is the whiff kings if baseball. Baez is not a good hitter. Bryant is always hurt. Rizzo is a gift but he’s getting older and most likely doesn’t want to start all over again.
The only “good” hitter the Cubs have is Contreras.
Yo TikTok or Ding Dong or whatever your name is… Why are you copying and pasting the same obnoxious hogwash on every article?
Hogwash? Piggy fluid? Oinky spittle? I disagree. Anyways, my mistake thought I was posting on previous article.
They may NOT get traded, but if they cannot agree on an extension, they will be shopped. The one thing about what you said that may be true is that I don’t see a lot of contending teams needing a player at 1B or 2B enough to give up with the Cubs would be asking for in these ‘rentals.’ However, Bryant is valuable because he is hot and can play multiple positions. Kimbrel is also someone that will be sought out, as well as any 1YR contracted RP’s. With that said, I see Baez and Rizzo staying put, and either trying to work out extensions later or receiving a QO down the line.
What does this have to do with the Twins or Jose Berrios?
So instead of selling your idea is the Cubs should run it back with the roster that will fail to make the playoffs 2 years in a row?
They made the playoffs last year (2020)
If they do not trade anyone of significance, aka Bryant Baez and/or Rizo, then they would be morons…
Padres will probably try him at second
Well played. I could see the Reds trying him at SS, since their primary requirement for SS seems to be that you’ve rarely or never played the position before.
I hear Moose is planning on locking up the 8th inning for the Reds in 2022
He’s got a wicked Moose-Knuckle ball!
Giants need to be in on Berrios. They only have Webb on contract for next year and no prospects ready.
No, Berrios is a free agent after next year. Unless they extend him it’s pointless, and at that point why not just do the same thing this winter that they did last winter? Resign Gausman and one of Wood/Disco and have Zaidi go for a couple more 1 year deals and rinse/repeat
Berrios is under arb still for next year
That’s … what he said.
@motor I think that’s what they meant by Berrios being a free agent AFTER next year/season. It was worded kinda weirdly
Giants have to be in on Berrios if solely to drive up the price for either the Flodgers or Padres…
The Vagiants or the Padres can have him.
Nah the Doyers or Padres can have em, Giants need no one. They are ahead of schedule and shouldn’t be trading away anything.
Bart for Berrios. Grade B for both sides.
Keiburt Ruiz, Peters, and Josiah Gray for Berrios
For Scherzer, perhaps, but NOT Berrios!
No one trades top 50 catching prospects in AAA.
Not for Berrios or a rental, even mad Max
LOL! No way the Dodgers do that. And before you say “then you won’t get Berrios” I am 100% ok with that, if that’s what they are asking for him.
That’s way too much. He’s not Scherzer.
Berrios might have more trade value than Scherzer. He is not a better pitcher, but from a trade value perspective, including his age, additional year of control, and comparative performances.
He’s worth way more than Scherzer. Max is 37 (tomorrow actually, happy birthday) and is a free agent in two months. Berrios is 27, has another year of control, and makes relative peanuts.
I stick to my comment…….You won’t get Ruiz AND Gray for Berrios. I find it hard to believe that even one of those players get traded, let alone both.
Peters does not have any trade value. Ruiz and Gray are a good two to headline an offer. Dodgers cannot offer much more than that to front their offer.
How about Michael Bush, Gerardo Carrillo, and Peters?
Busch just became a top 100 prospect and Carrillo’s fastball/change up combo gives him a high floor.
Throw in Raley for free!
Plesac for that trio would be a nice return…
I wish the Flodgers were that stupid but sadly they aint that stupid…
That’s a bad omen if you’re Trevor Bauer.
Bauer will be the opening day starter on the California Penal League come next spring.
He might get some good views on that stream.
The real life Wild Thing?
The woman brought a civil case. Bauer hasn’t been arrested or charged with anything at this point.
Don’t confuse them with facts. The new “Woke” thing to do is convict someone because the news told them to. I’m all for justice being served, if he’s guilty, but until it’s proven, he’s still innocent. It’s called the 6th Amendment. People would rather take TMZ’s word for it than the Bill of Rights. Sad!
He is admittedly not innocent of the parts that will keep him out of baseball for a long time or forever.
Bauer is done, stick a fork in his ass
I hear they do things like that in the California Penal League.
that is so savage
He better keep both eyes open in the pen
Oh boy, this could get good. I smell a bidding war.
Scherzer who?? Pull the trigger Preller!
I heard the Rays have a pretty decent farm system with plenty of options.
Have a hunch Berrios will end up being a Dodger
Braves should be in on this guy as well, as Morton and Smyly will be gone and Soroka is probably not going to be ready to start next year. He would be a great add to Fried, Ynoa, Anderson next year.
Go big and get Madbum from the Dbacks.
That’s not going big, that’s going expensive and high risk.
The only thing big about Bumgarner is his ERA
Would make no sense to keep Bryant unlessCubs management is willing to give him the huge contract he’s looking for.
Trading Berrios now makes the most sense for the Twins. Also if one of the big dogs in the NL West come away with him it could very well make them the favorites to win the division and maybe even the World Series
@ Ronk just dont see a middle of the rotation guy as being the key to the kingdom….
Berrios is a lot more than a mid rotation guy. He’s not an ace but he’s a strong no. 2 and currently having his best season. Berrios in a potential trade would become the Giants no.2, the Padres no.2, or the Dodgers no.3, assuming Kershaw is healthy. With that said Berrios could definitely tip the scales in the favor of any of those teams
I know this is out of the box but the Rangers should consider a trade for Berrios and an extension. This would fit with their timeline for the rebuild. Leiter/Berrios/Dunning would be good for years to come. First things first…resign Gallo then get a short stop in the offseason.
Berrios is definitely a guy that can eat innings and help keep you afloat to get to the playoffs. IMO, he’s a game 3 or game 4 starter in the Dodger playoff rotation behind Buehler, Kershaw, and maybe Urias.
I would be surprised if the Dodgers included Ruiz in a deal for him.
If giving up Ruiz is the difference between the getting Berrios or letting a division rival get him, the Dodgers would be foolish to not make the trade. Ruiz has the potential to be a star but the Dodgers already have Will Smith who’s probably a top 5 catcher. Putting Berrios in the Dodgers rotation and getting the lineup back to 100% will make them very tough to beat in October. I say that as someone who doesn’t even like the Dodgers
This is the exact opposite reason the dodgers have won 8 straight division titles and 3 pennants in the last decade.
You don’t trade valuable assets unless you’re getting top dollar. Any pitching rental, or Berrios, will not get Ruiz++. Gray is probably the prospect most likely moved for a rental
Ruiz goes for someone like Hendricks. TOR arm with a lot of control. That’s about it
Rays please.
I hope Farhan Zaidi had a good breakfast this morning, because it’s time to use that energy and start making moves to improve the Giants starting pitching.
Gausman looks shaky as of late and Cueto is not reliable.
Don’t sleep on Farhan, he’s battle ready.
Do it Twins! Berrios and his 4.7 career second half ERA is not going to carry you in the playoffs.
Farhan is a submarine, on the sea floor looking for buried treasure. We have no idea what he will find or come up with, but he will definitely find value.
I have confidence in Mr. Zaidi..
Do the Giants have 2 top 100 prospects to trade?
They actually have 4 top 100 prospects, but only one they’d probably be willing to move for a controllable player. That one is Joey Bart.
They have according to Mlb Top 100, two Top 20 but neither are going anywhere IMO. The 4th in OF Hunter Bishop should be mist available…the 5th is a young lefty starter in Seth Corry that dont think goes for a rental.
Frazier was worth about the same as Berrios in terms of WAR over the past 3 seasons and has the same amount of team control. Twins fans are going to be disappointed if they think that he will return a couple of top 100 prospects.
As a dodger fan , Zaidi is good. AF and Zaidi were Kobe and Shaq in LA
Zaidi didn’t have quite that much impact. More like Kobe and Fisher, if anything.
James Click, mlb com :
Q: How do you assess your rotation depth, and how will that perhaps impact the possible search for a starter, especially with several pitchers approaching career highs in innings pitched?
A: “We have a lot of quality pitching — a lot of quality starting pitching. It’s an area we’re going to continue to assess, just given the unique nature of the season, going from 60 games to 162. It’s something none of us have ever been through before. It’s a constant conversation with our pitching coaches, our strength and conditioning guys, our trainers. We need to make sure these guys are healthy for hopefully more than 162, and that’s really where the conversation has to be right now.”
Q: Is pitching your foremost priority?
A: “As always, we’ll listen on anything and ask on anything. There are areas of the roster that are easier to upgrade than others. Our offense has certainly been very, very good this year, and I think our starting pitching’s been very, very good. Ryan Pressly’s been outstanding. We still think we have a lot of talent out there in the bullpen, but it’s our responsibility to make sure that we seek every opportunity to upgrade this roster, and there are some areas that are a little easier than others.”
Still don’t get all the starting pitching to Boston rumors.. Example.. Chris Sale’s 3rd (probably last) rehab start yesterday went 65 pitches deep at AA. 9k’s and was at 92-96, same as at his 1st 2.
Houck is fully healthy now and as the NYY can attest in his latest start.. Throwing outstanding. The 2 quality type of reinforcements most teams would dearly love to have to have in the 2nd half of the season? They already have within the organization and the relief guy Brasier (possibly) could follow some time later.
I see pitching as a done deal and even Conner Seabold is finally throwing again after being on the shelf since ST. Acquire anything? Make it a 1b replacement for the hapless Dalbec that many of us thought was a flop from his time in the minors and that he was nothing but another Wil Middlebrooks all along.
Sounds like the Dodgers don’t expect Bauer back any time soon.
gonna toot my own horn on this – I posted here (before his FIRST administrative leave) that Dodgers & MLB were on the phone all day everyday to make sure he doesn’t play rest of this year, and that the high likelihood is he will never throw another pitch in MLB.
Your gold star is in the mail.
Except if he doesn’t get convicted until next season, then the dodgers still owe him for THIS season
Convicted? He hasnt been charged. If his guilt was as slam dunk as many here seem to believe it seems that criminal charges would have been put forth by now. No DA wants a high visibility case unless they are sure they can get the conviction. Since the investigation hasnt prompted any actions I’m leaning to thinking that the DA has serious misgivings about the accuser’s allegations. “Beyond a reasonable doubt” went out the window when she asked for a 2nd date. The “Preponderance of Evidence” that a civil case requires seems much more attainable.
Yeah, except conviction or no, MOST of the events are not disputed, and it is those events that make him an MLB untouchable; though lawsuits will be filed regarding that, there’s not a team in MLB that will touch this guy – the mental imagery is firmly implanted in the public mind. He’s done, at least for the next several years, until culture sinks further and teams have bdsm nights at the park
Regardless of the outcome, Bauer obviously showed a serious dark side and lack of judgment. One thing I would like some clarity about is the why this woman reportedly went back to him a second time, Perhaps that plus the emails she sent allegedly telling Bauer to be very rough with her are giving the DA reason to lengthen the investigation, but that is simply speculation on my part. Even before the report today on this site which said the majority of Dodgers players do not want Bauer back, I questioned whether the organization would take him back even if there weren’t any charges and/or the situation was resolved out of court.
Your post seems contradictory. You acknowledge that there is communication allegedly telling Bauer to be very rough as well as a follow up encounter, yet you say Bauer showed a, “dark side and lack of judgment”.
Now if you mean he showed a lack of judgment because he’s a high profile rich guy that should have got her specific requests in writing, on video, with multiple witnesses to make sure he covered his own ass, sure, I agree. If you mean he has a dark side and lack of judgment because he partook in something the other person allegedly wanted, I’ll disagree.
If it comes out that this wasn’t actually consensual and what she’s saying is true, then I’d also agree with you, but you said no matter the outcome. I know it’s rare in this country, but I still stick to the idea of, “innocent until proven guilty” (granted this isn’t a criminal case). If these were the consensual acts of two adults, what they do in the bedroom is of no concern to me.
hid bad judgement was being there in the first place, and
he’s done.
Because your and his social libertarianism is absolutely abhorrent to the vast majority of people in this country, and, therefore, the vast majority of baseball fans.
I don’t dislike the guy at all, and hope that this will be a wake-up call to him, and I think it will be, but it’s gonna take a while, as it always does for people who are smarter than everybody else.
Or it could be that she liked having her butt slapped and Bauer went full on hardcore and punched her. (Time will tell)
(1)A guy that cyberstalks a coed for fun over a weekend should have alarm bells going off for any GM.
(2) In Spring training closes one eye while pitching to an opponent ” to challenge ” himself with no regard to the risk to the hitter is a total headcase.
When I first heard this happened my first thought “was only a matter of time.”
Bauer didn’t wake up a few months ago and decide he wanted to engage in this sort of activity. It wasn’t his first and it won’t be his last, which is why MLB doesn’t want him around. Who knows how far he’ll go? Read his quotes and his social media.
Guilt in a legal sense doesn’t matter at all in this case. What matters is if Bauer violated the uniform players contract code of conduct provision. I think MLB has a pretty good case that he did since he admitted to beating and choking the woman during consensual sex. Whether he is convicted in a court of law of anally raping her is pretty much beside the point in terms of whether they can suspend him indefinitely and nullify his contract.
you are entirely correct, but when it plays out that way, I’m afraid lawsuits will be flying MLB’s way.
For Mr Bauer’s sake, I hope not
Throw in the fact he hasn’t exactly been shy in slamming MLB decisions/actions whenever he gets a chance. Those chances are frequent due to his VLog. Essentially has been promoting them as incompetent all year.
If they can legally get rid of that problem, I think they will.
Wait, no one was talking about what MLB would do, so why is that all that matters? What an odd take.
Wtf. Who’s suing MLB? People here come up with the most random crap
Bauer will be. Nothing random about it. Unless Bauer completely changes, or LA, MLB, and Bauer come to some monetary settlement.
@Ducky Buckin Fent- I know you’ve seen a lot of Jose Berrios living in Minnesota, would be be worth Deivi and Schmidty? Or just one of those pitchers with Luis Gil and another prospect? Lmk when you get a chance, and thnx.
Deivi has little value. If I’m trading with the Yankees I’d rather have Gil, Peraza, Medina or Volpe.
If I’m the Padres I’m willing to include Gore in a package for Berrios.
Berrios has performed at about the same level or a little lower than Fraazier this season and the past 3 seasons. What the Padres gave up for Frazier should be a bench mark for what it will take to get Berrios in trade.
Twins get:
Luke Voit
Clint Frazier
Deivi Garcia
Alexander Vizcaino
Yankees get:
Max Kepler
Byron Buxton
Jose Berrios
This is a joke right? Why would the Twins do that? They can do much better than that if they’re trading Berrios.
@tad2b13- ok what better offer could the Twinkies get for Berrios? Gore and another prospect? The Yankees got Deivi Garcia, Clarke Schmidt, Luis Gil, Alexander Vizcaino. All in their top 10 prospects.
Yankee:
It depends on what team you’re talking about. I see Berrios as a very attractive target, garnering lots of interest, and in a competitive bidding market, I think the Twins could do much better.
@tad2b13- I hear you, I was just trying to get an idea from Twin Fans what Minnesota would be looking for. The Yankees are really loaded with pitching prospects. I thought that would be what the Twins would want(pitching).
The Twins would say don’t call back unless you have a serious offer.
@MarkoRock68- Ok, what would the Blue Jays offer for Berrios? I definitely want to hear this.
Pearson and a guy in the 10-15 range. And that is just for Berrios.
Yeah Pearson is really good, but the Yankees offer is better. Schmidty #2, Deivi #3 and Gil #5 all are top prospects and Vizcaino is in top 10. I think the Blue Jays need Berrios more then the Yankees though.
The offer you laid out was for the 3 Twins player. That’s what I made my comment about.
There is a website called baseball trade values that I highly suggest you check out. This trade isn’t even remotely close. That package of Voit, Frazier, Garcia, and Vizcaino wouldn’t get any ONE of those three guys from the Twins, much less all 3.
Baseball trade value assigns an estimated point system to each player for what they’re worth on the trade market. It’s not perfect, by any means. But your proposed trade has over 100 points of value going to the Yankees and less than 25 points going back to the Twins. You’re not even in the ballpark.
A closer valuation, according to that site, to land Berrios, Buxton, and Kepler would be something like Deivi Garcia, Luis Medina, and Aaron Judge
@phantomofdb- I strongly disagree with you. Voit alone is definitely worth a Kepler or a Buxton. Frazier can definitely replace Kepler in the outfield. And Deivi, Vizcaino or Gil definitely can help take the hit of losing Berrios. The Yankees are loaded with pitching prospects that could be obtained for Berrios. Aaron Judge would never be offered in this trade. Maybe Oswald Peraza could be added or a Luis Medina but not much more.
You can overvalue your favorite team’s players all you want, but Voit just doesn’t have a fraction of the trade value that kepler or buxton does. And there’s a reason the Yankees fans propose Frazier in literally every single trade, He’s junk.
And I didn’t write that site. Seriously google it. Baseball trade values. I don’t think the Yankees would offer Judge up at all. But if you want a package of Berrios, Buxton, AND Kepler… your offer is literally a quarter on the dollar of trade back to the Twins. You want 3 difference makers all in one trade, you are going to have give up more than your MLB junk and a couple decent prospects. The objective trade value site says that Garcia/Medina/Judge is almost equal value to Berrios/buxton/Kepler. If you don’t think giving up that quantity of talent is worth Berrios/buxton/Kepler, you just won’t get them.
No. Don’t do it. That site is a joke.
It’s definitely not perfect. Or really even close to perfect. But if that site is telling you your trade idea is 4x the value in one direction… that’s at least enough to tell you that your trade is a horrible idea. So yeah, someone with proposals like that could definitely make use of it
Nope. It told me that Berrios would be worth 3 current Padres starting pitchers. Their basic algorithm is flawed.
Lol. So you’re mad because you’re grossly misusing the tool? It’s assigning an estimated trade value to each guy. It’s not trying to say that if you can make the math work, whatever you put up there is a realistic trade. You can manipulate the numbers in all sorts of goofy ways, including putting up 3 current players at the same position.
Whoever you chose just doesn’t have great trade value. But that doesn’t mean trading those 3 guys for Berrios would ever remotely happen. It’s just saying that the kind of prospect haul someone like Berrios would get (because of performance, contract, and age) would be similar to what the Padres could get if they traded ALL of those guys.
Lol. Yankees fans are hilarious.
@paindonthurt- I find Twinkie fans even more hilarious. I thought Minnesota needs pitching? The Yankees have plenty of pitching prospects for Berrios, and it would be best to get something of value for Kepler and Buxton now before they end up leaving for nothing.
Yankee
Yankees get: Ray/Semien/Romano and Adams.
Jays get: Gil/Schmidt/Vizcaino
Why would they need to get value now? Neither of them are free agents after this season. Your proposal was laughable, just take the, “L”. It’s not a big deal, happens to all of us.
Twins could also contend in 2022. There’s no reason for them to take Yankees fringe prospects and MLB garbage just “because”.
Giants give up Logan Webb (a young current starter), one of our top 10 prospect OFersq in Bishop, Matos or Canario and maybe 2 lower level or one higher mid-level prospect. Thoughts?
Another stupid Yankee fan trade idea
The Jays aren’t trying to upgrade their starting pitching?
Why? With Hatch now in the mix and Manoah back soon. Unless they sweep the Sox in these 4 games makes no sense to pay the crazy high ask for TOR arms. More of a need for high leverage relievers. ( Ex Hand/Hudson)
Could see the Dodgers aquiring him but it will cost them alot. Maybe 2 top 20 prospects ( K.Ruiz and ??? ). Pads only interested to block the real big dogs in the division. But I guarantee the Yankees and Mets will chime in if they haves already. Good pitcher..but kinda pricey since he is under team control for 2 yrs
He’s definitely a Freidman type of asset to acquire. He’s a difference maker and would help for next season. Is he willing to give up Ruiz or Gray who knows. They’re prospects who can contribute now. I trust AF to make the right moves
“I trust AF to make the right moves”
dodgers, Giants, Rays, and my Astros have earned massive trust from fans regarding personnel moves.
Any others?
I’d add Boston in there too
Once Pitt wins the Frazier trade they’ll start getting some respect, with Cherington’s resume serving as some backup
Seattle is getting close too. Neither are there yet, but next tier down?
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Paddack+Kim+Ona for Berrios who says no?
The twins laugh in your face
Once again with the idea of “here take our guys that are seriously underperforming for your star”. Kim is pretty much valueless. Paddack COULD have value, but he doesn’t seem to be able to figure it out. And his big thing that made him a good prospect was the spin rate on his fastball. That’s a pretty worrisome thing to hang your hat on at the moment. And Oña – unless the twins are going to move a lot of other pieces they don’t really need another outfielder. They have Buxton, Kepler, Kirilloff, Larnach, Rooker, and a couple backup guys already.