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David Ross, Cubs In “Preliminary Talks” About Extension

By Mark Polishuk | October 6, 2021 at 1:51pm CDT

TODAY: Speaking with MLB.com’s Jordan Bastian and other reporters today, Hoyer confirmed that negotiations were taking place with Ross.  Bastian writes that a Ross extension would begin with the 2024 season, as the Cubs would first exercise their club option for 2023.

OCTOBER 2: The Cubs and manager David Ross have “had some preliminary talks” about a contract extension, Ross told NBC Sports Chicago’s Gordon Wittenmyer and other reporters.  Ross is taking something of a laid-back approach to the negotiations, saying he is focused on the remaining days of the Cubs’ season, and that “if I’m meant to get extended, I’ll get extended.”

As Wittenmyer notes, there has been an expectation that Ross would indeed get a new deal, following up on the original three-year pact he signed with the team in October 2019.  The 2022 season will be the final guaranteed year of that deal and the Cubs also have an option on Ross’ services for 2023.  The nature of the extension talks aren’t yet known, though it could be that the Cubs might simply lock in Ross’ 2023 season now, giving the skipper a bit more security beyond just one remaining guaranteed year.

The Cubs made the postseason in Ross’ first year, posting a 34-26 record before being eliminated by the Marlins in the first round of the expanded 2020 playoff structure.  With a 38-27 record back on June 13 of this season, the Wrigleyville crew seemed well on their way to another postseason berth before the wheels completely came off, resulting in a major fire sale of veterans and impending free agents at the trade deadline.  The Cubs enter today’s play with a dismal 69-91 record, marking their first losing season since 2014.

Between the pandemic and all of the tumult surrounding the Cubs in particular over the last two years, it is hard to gauge Ross’ share of the blame for the team’s struggles.  Ownership and the front office have seemingly been more concerned with keeping the payroll in check rather than adding big pieces around the Cubs’ former core of talent, leaving Ross with less to work with on the field.

While president of baseball operations Jed Hoyer has said Chicago will be “really active in free agency” and “spend money intelligently” this winter, it remains to be seen how much of a push the Cubs will make towards contending in 2022, or if they’ll continue to reload on young talent and keep their spending limited.  As such, Ross’ role in the dugout could continue to be more focused around managing and developing younger players rather than being overtly concerned with wins and losses.

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  1. ChiSox_Fan

    1 year ago

    Well deserved for nearly last place finish!!!

    Reply
    • cubs2016

      1 year ago

      Do you have anything better to do other than be a troll? You seriously comment more on Cubs posts than you do for the AL Central champs. You are truly pathetic.

      Reply
      • baseballpun

        1 year ago

        To be fair, it’s not like being AL Central Champs is impressive.

        Reply
        • 48-team MLB

          1 year ago

          With 48 teams the AL Central could add a team in either Indianapolis or Columbus…with the other joining the NL Central.

      • tjdchi

        1 year ago

        As a Sox fan, I love this response. Cubs should undoubtedly resign Ross. Dude has been pretty great considering the circumstances

        Reply
      • PeteWard8

        1 year ago

        Look out below

        Reply
      • blockheag36

        1 year ago

        Whitesox are the JV of Chicago. Don’t worry about little brother fans like this guy. They will lose in the playoffs and that will be the end of the Sox for another 20 years

        Reply
        • CalcetinesBlancos

          1 year ago

          “Whitesox are the JV of Chicago.”

          “Chicago” being the key word. The Cubs are the team of everyone but people in Chicago lol.

        • pwndroia

          1 year ago

          @blockheag36 You realize the Cubs went 108 years without a championship, right?

          Yes, I know Cubs are more popular but still…

      • The Mets "Missed WAR"

        1 year ago

        At first I thought this “extension” made sense. The Cubs need a manager and I was at least a fan of David Ross as a player. It also seems the Cubs like him as manager. I didn’t realize he was already under team control for the next 2-years though. What’s the point of extending him now? Wait and see how he does the next 2 years and then extend him if he does well. I just don’t get it. Even when the Braves had future hall of famer Bobby Cox they stick strictly to one year deals with team options for managers. That made sense to me. Why extend a manager when you don’t even have to? I get it if your in the NFL and trying to make sure no one else gets a shot at Bill Belichik but outside of that… Why? They already have Ross under contract for the next 2 years and it’s not like he has won anything important since he’s been there. Why are the Cubs putting the cart before the horse in this situation. Do they really think Ross will be the main reason they win in 2024 and beyond? Do they really think other teams will be lining up to outbid them next season when they still have a year of control left? Wait at least 1 more year. You will save money and have the option of backing out if Ross does fall apart. I don’t see any upside in this deal for the Cubs. Even if it ends up going well I don’t see why they feel like they have to do it with so much! Time left on Ross’ contract. The Cubs are inheriting risk without gaining any real potential reward. Unless you believe Ross will do so well next season. He will refuse to sign an extension afterwards and then stay with the Cubs for 1 more season after that to test free agency like a player would. That seems like a serious long shot to me. I’ve never heard of any MLB manager doing that when they still has at least a year left on their contract. It must just be some sort of vote of confidence or something. Seems dumb to me. Keeping him next season and picking up his option the year after that should be vote of confidence enough.

        Reply
    • Desertbull

      1 year ago

      Is TLR drunk yet?

      Reply
    • Desertbull

      1 year ago

      Enjoy your first round defeat. Mmmk?

      Reply
      • Pete LaCock

        1 year ago

        Im sure the Cubs will enjoy watching them lose in the first round at home even more.

        Reply
    • wrigley03

      1 year ago

      Reply
  2. baseballpun

    1 year ago

    I think we all felt a little out of sorts the past couple years, but it’s nice to see things starting to get back to normal, with the Cards on the way to October baseball and the Cubs in the cellar.

    If the Brewers can just go back to being mediocre, everything will be right in the world again.

    Reply
    • FletcherFan69

      1 year ago

      It’s October 2nd, everybody is playing October baseball

      Reply
      • baseballpun

        1 year ago

        But, spiritually, this is September baseball, if you know what I mean.

        Reply
        • FletcherFan69

          1 year ago

          Not sure why you’re so arrogant when the Cardinals are only gonna play one game of *spiritually* October baseball anyways

        • baseballpun

          1 year ago

          Because it’s fun to s*** on the Cubs. Because they’re our rivals. You know, sports.

        • FletcherFan69

          1 year ago

          The Cardinals aren’t anybody’s rival. Nobody thinks about them. Imagine trading for two perennial MVP candidates and barely sneaking into the WC round in the league’s weakest division every year. On top of that, you have to live in Missouri too!

        • baseballpun

          1 year ago

          “Nobody thinks about them.”

          This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. The only teams that get more hate are the Red Sox and Yankees. “Devil Magic” starts trending every time they win a ballgame in September. What a joke.

          And I don’t live in Missouri. Got out of there as soon as I could.

        • FletcherFan69

          1 year ago

          Sounds like cope to me, baby boy

          P.S. nice job dodging my comment on how the Cards underperform every year with all the talent they have

        • baseballpun

          1 year ago

          Never listen to anyone with “69” or “420” in their handle.

        • baseballpun

          1 year ago

          Quod Erat Demonstrandum.

        • FletcherFan69

          1 year ago

          Suq Onicus MaNuts

        • MelonMan

          1 year ago

          Will you listen to somebody with “melon” in their handle?

        • baseballpun

          1 year ago

          Honeydew or watermelon?

        • MelonMan

          1 year ago

          Neither. I’m living in your walls

        • ZabbiaI

          1 year ago

          Fletcherfan is one of the most pathetic trolls on mlbtr. Kudos to you, buddy.

        • FletcherFan69

          1 year ago

          They hated Jesus because he told the truth

        • Pete LaCock

          1 year ago

          Yeesh. Someone forgot to climb off there pedestal today. Who pissed in your cheerios this morning?

        • themed

          1 year ago

          Underperform every year huh. Only made it to 16 post seasons appearances since 2000. How many have the cubs had in that same time span?

        • agrorolm

          1 year ago

          And so, the Cardinals got fletched in 2021 WC game with their best team in decades against a decimated pitching staff of ten from the Dodgers (I expected them to win at least 110 games this year)..tsk, tsk..

    • ChiSox_Fan

      1 year ago

      Cubs just blew 3-run lead! Losing again. Ha!

      Nothing ever changes.

      Reply
      • Cey Hey

        1 year ago

        Isn’t it past your bedtime?

        Reply
      • Desertbull

        1 year ago

        TLR just has another Johnny Walker Black, on the rocks.

        Reply
        • MasterShake

          1 year ago

          I’ll have what he’s having make it a double please

      • micpande

        1 year ago

        Cubs just won.

        Reply
      • agrorolm

        1 year ago

        If The Chicago White “Chicks werent able to win at least 113 games this year, they should be ashamed…wait, they didn’t. Let’s them see fail AGAIN in NLDS, and make a party of comments to “Chicks” Sox fans like geriatric bums like this..What a shame, pay more attention to your wife, instead of being all day writing and watching Cubs news and also watching thai girls in Youtube..

        Reply
      • agrorolm

        1 year ago

        If The Chicago White “Chicks werent able to win at least 113 games this year, they should be ashamed…wait, they didn’t. Let’s them see fail AGAIN in NLDS, and make a party of comments to “Chicks” Sox fans like geriatric bums like this..What a shame, pay more attention to your wife, instead of being all day writing and watching Cubs news and also watching thai girls in Youtube..

        Reply
      • agrorolm

        1 year ago

        If The Chicago White “Chicks werent able to win at least 113 games this year, they should be ashamed…wait, they didn’t. Let’s them see fail AGAIN in ALDS, and make a party of comments to “Chicks” Sox fans like geriatric bums like this..What a shame, pay more attention to your wife, instead of being all day writing and watching Cubs news and also watching thai girls in Youtube..

        Reply
    • Davro

      1 year ago

      Cards will be one and done.

      Reply
  3. Desertbull

    1 year ago

    He had this team in first place with no starting pitching, a good bull pen, and a “core” of under achieving, me first players.

    Reply
  4. ChiSox_Fan

    1 year ago

    Giambrone to be offered 5 year extension…

    Reply
  5. Cey Hey

    1 year ago

    No surprise. Continuity is important during a rebuild and Ross is the right guy. It’s not all about won/loss record.

    Reply
    • baseballpun

      1 year ago

      Ross may well be the right guy – I don’t know how his decision-making is, but he seems like a good players’ coach. But once Contreras is gone this offseason, there really won’t be any “continuity” left. The whole roster has basically turned over. If you’re going to start over with a new team, I could see starting with a new manager.

      Again, though, there’s no reason that I’m aware of to get rid of Ross. He might be a great coach to have for a new, young team.

      Reply
      • ChiSox_Fan

        1 year ago

        Ricky Renteria would be a better manager.

        Ozzie, too!

        Reply
        • Desertbull

          1 year ago

          Tatis for James Shields

          Hahaha

      • Cey Hey

        1 year ago

        His decision-making is better than anyone’s on a chat board. By continuity, I mean people calling the shots and coaching. It’s not a good idea to keep switching managers.

        Reply
  6. $21002046

    1 year ago

    For Heaven’s sake why?

    Reply
  7. YourDreamGM

    1 year ago

    He did good. Team was loaded with big name but inconsistent players. When the bats were working he won games.

    Reply
  8. rememberthecoop

    1 year ago

    Ross is the new Dale Sveum; hang around 2-3 years for the rebuild, and when the Cubs are ready to win again in 2024, they’ll replace him by summoning Casey Stengel from the dead.

    Reply
  9. CalcetinesBlancos

    1 year ago

    Lol. Why would you sign him to a new deal with two years left on the current deal?

    Is Dave Dombrowski running this team?

    Reply
  10. b00giem@n

    1 year ago

    He’s be better off managing a different club, I don’t doubt his ability rather the competence of front office that’s supposed to support him.

    Reply
  11. mike127

    1 year ago

    Best thing about the comments here is the high number of hidden because they are muted. Which can mean only one thing without being able to see it…..the White Sox and Cardinals trolls still care about the Cubs even though their teams are both in the playoffs. Typing this in the afternoon on Wednesday in case one of those teams isn’t in the playoffs in about six hours. Best of luck, though.

    Reply
  12. rememberthecoop

    1 year ago

    Yeah, it never ceases to amaze me how White Sox and Cardinals fans spend so much time thinking about the Cubs. Jealousy is a devil in a green dress…

    Reply
  13. jdan74

    1 year ago

    They’re talking like he’s Tommy Lasorda. What the hell has he done to deserve talks of a contract extensions TWO YEARS in advance??? Nothing!

    Reply

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