Cohen diving freeman would be stupid? That would give him an NL east tiltle next year.. if he doesn’t already have one. Probably will be healthier next year.
Their fans think they are obligated to go to the finals. I had one dodger fan tell me this was the greatest team he has ever seen from a roster perspective! You can’t make it up
Why? Why would a future HOF Boras client coming off a Cy Young caliber season who can’t receive a qualifying offer forego the open market when he is already more or less there?
Hey VegasSDfan: what do you think about the A’s potentially moving to Vegas? I’ve read comments from a lot of armchair owners on this site who are adamant Vegas would be a terrible place for any MLB team to move. They say the fan base would be too small because the inner city of Vegas is full of tourists and the surrounding area is (and I’m quoting someone here) “a sh!thole that could never support an MLB team.” I personally find that really hard to believe. The Raiders seem to be doing just fine there. They say, ” a football team playing 8 or 9 games is very different from a baseball team playing 81 games.” I agree with them on that point but typically areas that can support a football team can also support a baseball team. I also think it would be foolish to assume Major League Baseball hasn’t done it’s research and put more time and effort into deciding if Vegas is a viable area than any of us have. It seems like everyone who bashes the idea of the A’s moving to Vegas is biased and has their own agenda. Some of them live in Oakland and want the A’s to stay there. Some of them live in places like Portland, Charlotte, Nashville, Oklahoma City or Montreal and want the A’s to move there. Some of them just seem deeply religious and don’t want an MLB team in Vegas because they say it “is a soulless city.” I would love to hear your input though. My guess is MLB knows what they are talking about when they say Vegas is the most viable city to take on an MLB team. What say you?
I don’t live in Vegas, but I’ll share my thoughts. I think the concerns about LV having the ability to support 81 games a year are legit. This is not because of it being a “sh!thole” or “soulless” but because of population size and other tourist draws. The latter is somewhat akin to Miami – why go to a baseball game when there are so many other options available year-round?
I think Las Vegas would have similar attendance issues to what Oakland, Miami, and Tampa Bay suffer. I’m not sure there are any markets remaining in the US that would have strong attendance (~2M per year) long-term. Maybe give Montreal another shot. Of course, that’s a more likely destination for the Rays.
I did live about 20 miles west of Las Vegas in Summerlin. 1 1/2 million people live in and around LV. When the Golden Knights came to town, packed house every night. Raiders are doing well. The Triple AAA baseball team draws all summer long.
The thing to remember is most of the 1 1/2 million locals very seldom go to the Strip. Henderson, Summerlin and all the residents in LV itself will support a team. Add in millions of visitors who like baseball and there is no downside.
Those proposals are popping up because a rumor came out a couple months ago that the Giants were willing to move Bart. Now that they are keeping Posey for next season makes him a little more expendable. I think they should keep him because Posey won’t last much longer but don’t forget. The year after the Giants drafted Posey they spent another first round pick on a catcher. I don’t remember his name but I’ve heard he is doing well too. If he can come up and replace Posey instead of Bart it might makes sense to pull a trade and help out the pitching staff now. Both of the Giants top catching prospects can’t simultaneously be the catcher of the future. Bart did very well in Triple-A though. I think it could make sense to just let Brandon Belt walk and move Posey to first. Start Bart at catcher and let the other prospect take over at Triple-A. No reason to pay injury prone old Belt a ton of money when you can replace his bat with a good hitter in Bart who will make the league minimum. With Posey, Bart and the other catcher all in the system I wouldn’t offer Belt anything more than a 1-year QO. If he leaves you get the draft pick compensation and can still move Posey to first. On the other hand, any solid catcher the Giants can trade would be worth a ton on the trade market. I mean, think about it. Travis d’Arnaud of all people was expected to be by far the best available catcher and now he has been extended. Who’s left? I know the Marlins would give up a ton for Bart. At the bare minimum the Giants could get Sixto Sanchez and probably several other good pitching prospects for him. That could help their team alot more than Bart when they already have Posey and another good catching prospect. You can never have too much pitching. The Giants are actually proving you CAN have too much catching.
Where to start. I think you have a number of things wrong. There was no rumor that the Giants were willing to move Bart. As a Giants fan I follow all things about the team. What I think you’re referring to was a post about the Giants getting a number of calls inquiring about Bart. That’s a big difference.
The Giants did not draft a catcher number one the year after Posey. IIRC that pick was Zack Wheeler. They did draft Tommy Joseph at #2, but he’s long gone. You may be thinking about Patrick Bailey, who was selected 2 years after Bart. You’re a bit off on Bailey doing well. The highest he’s gotten is high-A, where he’s struggled. But it’s way too soon to make any kind of assessment on his future.
Good catchers that can hit are very valuable. If you have one you do not play him at 1B. More value could be realized by trading for starting pitching. But they aren’t trading Bart yet. Like Bailey it’s also too soon to know Bart’s value. But chances are they will want Posey to be a bridge, and mentor, to Bart.
Finally, it’s nonsensical to say that catchers are worth a ton on the marketplace, and then follow that thought saying it is possible to have too much catching.
I’m sure I was thinking about Bailey. I didn’t realize he was struggling. I don’t think they should trade Bart. It is definitely possible to have too much catching though at least relative to pitching. Every team needs about 13 solid pitchers. If you have 3 or 4 great catchers that is a luxury no team can really afford unless every other position is stocked to the brim too. The market for catching is so high right now because there aren’t really any available good catchers. Just having Posey and Bart is pretty crazy when several other teams just throw garbage players like Alfaro and Alex Jackson every day. If Bailey is going bust then keeping Bart while Posey is a stop gap makes sense. The only thing is that Bart looks ready to be a high profile starting catcher now. Instead of having 2 high profile starting catchers it’s possible that it would help the Giants to just have 1 and trade the other for several high profile starting pitchers. It’s a good problem for them to have though. They never thought Posey would be this good and the expectation was that Bart would take over next season. Bart’s definitely ready to take over but Posey is blocking him. What to do, what to do? Keeping Bart is better for the long term. Trading him is probably better for the short term. Considering the Giants had the best record in baseball, making a short term move to push them over the top next season by having Posey and more great starting pitching instead of both catchers wouldn’t be even slightly unheard of as far as MLB GM’s are concerned. I like Bart though. I wouldn’t want to trade him. Unless they move Posey to first there is no room for both Posey and Bart to both reach their potential value on the 2022 Giants though. Using Bart as a backup or leaving him in Triple-A next season would be a serious waste of his talents. A team like the Marlins would love to help the 2022 Giants have a better chance of winning it all so they could have the rights to start Bart as their MLB catcher almost every single day. The smartest play for the Giants would be to trade Posey in exchange for a ton in his last season of control. He has 10 & 5 rights though so that’s not happening. It’s just a shame to see a player as valuable as Bart be blocked when he’s clearly ready to be a starter in the majors. Especially when so many other teams would make him their opening day starter right now.
LET Trevor Story go to the Cardinals. That’s just what the rest of the league needs. To have the Cardinals overpay for a player already on the downside of his career. I hope they keep paying out the wazoo for ex-Rockies around 30 years old. That would help everyone else. Lord knows they don’t have the money to work arou.d those massive mistakes after they make them.
No way in hell Castellanos gets $100M, author is nuts. He is still aa BAD DEFENDER and played in GABP a hitter’s paradise. His OPS+ was 136 while good but not anywhere elite. He was a 3 WAR player this year while having a career year. He will NOT make $20M a year. At most he makes $18M a year for 3-4 years.
Not sure why journalists ignore the fact that every single team in MLB has access to advanced analytics and will use it to determine the value of players.
If “every single team in MLB has access to advanced analytics and will use it to determine the value of players.” then why do so many teams make such bad mistakes when it comes to player acquisitions?
It’s almost like you want to give all credit to the universal use of analytics for every player acquisition that worked out well, but you don’t want to put any blame on analytics when an acquired player fails miserably.
Castellanos had 140 wRC+. That was tied for 12th highest in MLB, with Joey Votto, and Max Muncy. I guess, if your definition of “elite” is limited to top 5 or 10, then by your standard he’s not elite. But I see him as an easy $100M+ guy.
Geez! That is so annoying. Just spent 15 minutes explaining why, as a previous resident, LV can support a major league baseball team, hit post comment and it was gone. Come on, man!
I’m see that dodgers are back to their old self now that this isn’t a fake season.
I see the Mets are back to their losing ways after trading for a “star”
The only season the Mets win is the off-season.
That hurts. #lfgm
Hope you Enjoy FREEMAN Playing 1B for The Mets because The BRAVES ARE SO CHEAP …..
Enjoy Lindors albatross
Hurray for mets7300, he’s learned how to use caps, but he still knows nothing about baseball
If Freeman leaves, it won’t be to go to the Mets. He’ll go back to California.
I don’t think freeman will be a met. But I could definitely see Cohen just saying a F to the Braves and stealing their best player.
I could see you doing it because you’re an idiot and a Braves jealout. Cohen is smarter and more rational than you.
Cohen diving freeman would be stupid? That would give him an NL east tiltle next year.. if he doesn’t already have one. Probably will be healthier next year.
Kind of like the East Coast Padres, right?
Spot spitting bro you are filling my house with facts
“Back to their old self” like a 100+ win season doesnt show that they’re still a dominant team…
Their fans think they are obligated to go to the finals. I had one dodger fan tell me this was the greatest team he has ever seen from a roster perspective! You can’t make it up
Proof?
Like this clown would know a Dodger fan.
Met whatever: idiot!
Any news on guardians new minority owner?
I’m sure the Dodgers will extend Sherzer.
Why? Why would a future HOF Boras client coming off a Cy Young caliber season who can’t receive a qualifying offer forego the open market when he is already more or less there?
Hey VegasSDfan: what do you think about the A’s potentially moving to Vegas? I’ve read comments from a lot of armchair owners on this site who are adamant Vegas would be a terrible place for any MLB team to move. They say the fan base would be too small because the inner city of Vegas is full of tourists and the surrounding area is (and I’m quoting someone here) “a sh!thole that could never support an MLB team.” I personally find that really hard to believe. The Raiders seem to be doing just fine there. They say, ” a football team playing 8 or 9 games is very different from a baseball team playing 81 games.” I agree with them on that point but typically areas that can support a football team can also support a baseball team. I also think it would be foolish to assume Major League Baseball hasn’t done it’s research and put more time and effort into deciding if Vegas is a viable area than any of us have. It seems like everyone who bashes the idea of the A’s moving to Vegas is biased and has their own agenda. Some of them live in Oakland and want the A’s to stay there. Some of them live in places like Portland, Charlotte, Nashville, Oklahoma City or Montreal and want the A’s to move there. Some of them just seem deeply religious and don’t want an MLB team in Vegas because they say it “is a soulless city.” I would love to hear your input though. My guess is MLB knows what they are talking about when they say Vegas is the most viable city to take on an MLB team. What say you?
I don’t live in Vegas, but I’ll share my thoughts. I think the concerns about LV having the ability to support 81 games a year are legit. This is not because of it being a “sh!thole” or “soulless” but because of population size and other tourist draws. The latter is somewhat akin to Miami – why go to a baseball game when there are so many other options available year-round?
I think Las Vegas would have similar attendance issues to what Oakland, Miami, and Tampa Bay suffer. I’m not sure there are any markets remaining in the US that would have strong attendance (~2M per year) long-term. Maybe give Montreal another shot. Of course, that’s a more likely destination for the Rays.
I did live about 20 miles west of Las Vegas in Summerlin. 1 1/2 million people live in and around LV. When the Golden Knights came to town, packed house every night. Raiders are doing well. The Triple AAA baseball team draws all summer long.
The thing to remember is most of the 1 1/2 million locals very seldom go to the Strip. Henderson, Summerlin and all the residents in LV itself will support a team. Add in millions of visitors who like baseball and there is no downside.
fox471 – For the success and stability of whatever franchise might end up in Vegas – and for the team’s fans – I hope you’re right and I’m wrong.
I keep seeing the Giants trading Joey Bart proposals. He is the replacement for Posey. I don’t think the Giants are trading him.
Those proposals are popping up because a rumor came out a couple months ago that the Giants were willing to move Bart. Now that they are keeping Posey for next season makes him a little more expendable. I think they should keep him because Posey won’t last much longer but don’t forget. The year after the Giants drafted Posey they spent another first round pick on a catcher. I don’t remember his name but I’ve heard he is doing well too. If he can come up and replace Posey instead of Bart it might makes sense to pull a trade and help out the pitching staff now. Both of the Giants top catching prospects can’t simultaneously be the catcher of the future. Bart did very well in Triple-A though. I think it could make sense to just let Brandon Belt walk and move Posey to first. Start Bart at catcher and let the other prospect take over at Triple-A. No reason to pay injury prone old Belt a ton of money when you can replace his bat with a good hitter in Bart who will make the league minimum. With Posey, Bart and the other catcher all in the system I wouldn’t offer Belt anything more than a 1-year QO. If he leaves you get the draft pick compensation and can still move Posey to first. On the other hand, any solid catcher the Giants can trade would be worth a ton on the trade market. I mean, think about it. Travis d’Arnaud of all people was expected to be by far the best available catcher and now he has been extended. Who’s left? I know the Marlins would give up a ton for Bart. At the bare minimum the Giants could get Sixto Sanchez and probably several other good pitching prospects for him. That could help their team alot more than Bart when they already have Posey and another good catching prospect. You can never have too much pitching. The Giants are actually proving you CAN have too much catching.
Where to start. I think you have a number of things wrong. There was no rumor that the Giants were willing to move Bart. As a Giants fan I follow all things about the team. What I think you’re referring to was a post about the Giants getting a number of calls inquiring about Bart. That’s a big difference.
The Giants did not draft a catcher number one the year after Posey. IIRC that pick was Zack Wheeler. They did draft Tommy Joseph at #2, but he’s long gone. You may be thinking about Patrick Bailey, who was selected 2 years after Bart. You’re a bit off on Bailey doing well. The highest he’s gotten is high-A, where he’s struggled. But it’s way too soon to make any kind of assessment on his future.
Good catchers that can hit are very valuable. If you have one you do not play him at 1B. More value could be realized by trading for starting pitching. But they aren’t trading Bart yet. Like Bailey it’s also too soon to know Bart’s value. But chances are they will want Posey to be a bridge, and mentor, to Bart.
Finally, it’s nonsensical to say that catchers are worth a ton on the marketplace, and then follow that thought saying it is possible to have too much catching.
I’m sure I was thinking about Bailey. I didn’t realize he was struggling. I don’t think they should trade Bart. It is definitely possible to have too much catching though at least relative to pitching. Every team needs about 13 solid pitchers. If you have 3 or 4 great catchers that is a luxury no team can really afford unless every other position is stocked to the brim too. The market for catching is so high right now because there aren’t really any available good catchers. Just having Posey and Bart is pretty crazy when several other teams just throw garbage players like Alfaro and Alex Jackson every day. If Bailey is going bust then keeping Bart while Posey is a stop gap makes sense. The only thing is that Bart looks ready to be a high profile starting catcher now. Instead of having 2 high profile starting catchers it’s possible that it would help the Giants to just have 1 and trade the other for several high profile starting pitchers. It’s a good problem for them to have though. They never thought Posey would be this good and the expectation was that Bart would take over next season. Bart’s definitely ready to take over but Posey is blocking him. What to do, what to do? Keeping Bart is better for the long term. Trading him is probably better for the short term. Considering the Giants had the best record in baseball, making a short term move to push them over the top next season by having Posey and more great starting pitching instead of both catchers wouldn’t be even slightly unheard of as far as MLB GM’s are concerned. I like Bart though. I wouldn’t want to trade him. Unless they move Posey to first there is no room for both Posey and Bart to both reach their potential value on the 2022 Giants though. Using Bart as a backup or leaving him in Triple-A next season would be a serious waste of his talents. A team like the Marlins would love to help the 2022 Giants have a better chance of winning it all so they could have the rights to start Bart as their MLB catcher almost every single day. The smartest play for the Giants would be to trade Posey in exchange for a ton in his last season of control. He has 10 & 5 rights though so that’s not happening. It’s just a shame to see a player as valuable as Bart be blocked when he’s clearly ready to be a starter in the majors. Especially when so many other teams would make him their opening day starter right now.
Trevor Story to stl cardinals
LET Trevor Story go to the Cardinals. That’s just what the rest of the league needs. To have the Cardinals overpay for a player already on the downside of his career. I hope they keep paying out the wazoo for ex-Rockies around 30 years old. That would help everyone else. Lord knows they don’t have the money to work arou.d those massive mistakes after they make them.
No way in hell Castellanos gets $100M, author is nuts. He is still aa BAD DEFENDER and played in GABP a hitter’s paradise. His OPS+ was 136 while good but not anywhere elite. He was a 3 WAR player this year while having a career year. He will NOT make $20M a year. At most he makes $18M a year for 3-4 years.
Not sure why journalists ignore the fact that every single team in MLB has access to advanced analytics and will use it to determine the value of players.
True he gets closer to 200M
DocBB – Love your comment, so I hafta ask ….
If “every single team in MLB has access to advanced analytics and will use it to determine the value of players.” then why do so many teams make such bad mistakes when it comes to player acquisitions?
It’s almost like you want to give all credit to the universal use of analytics for every player acquisition that worked out well, but you don’t want to put any blame on analytics when an acquired player fails miserably.
How is that even possible? Hmmmm…….
OPS+ of 136 is pretty elite.
Universal DH seems to be on the horizon. Defense might not matter for his future valuation.
Castellanos had 140 wRC+. That was tied for 12th highest in MLB, with Joey Votto, and Max Muncy. I guess, if your definition of “elite” is limited to top 5 or 10, then by your standard he’s not elite. But I see him as an easy $100M+ guy.
Geez! That is so annoying. Just spent 15 minutes explaining why, as a previous resident, LV can support a major league baseball team, hit post comment and it was gone. Come on, man!