Oct. 25: The Phillies have formally announced the hiring of Dickerson as the Major League infield coach for the 2022 season.
Oct. 22: Turnover continues in the Philadelphia and San Diego dugouts, as the Phillies are set to hire Bobby Dickerson away from the Padres to serve as their infield coach reports USA Today’s Bob Nightengale. Dickerson pulled double duty during the 2021 season for the Padres, serving as the team’s official bench coach and third base coach following the front office promotion of previous third base coach Glenn Hoffman.
The hiring serves as a reunion between coach and organization, as Dickerson served in the same infield coach capacity for the Phils during the 2019 season. This followed an eight year stint with the Orioles, who boasted a few Gold Glove-winning infielders during Dickerson’s tenure.
As was the case with the team’s recent hiring of Kevin Long, Phillies manager Joe Girardi adds a veteran coaching presence to cajole some new talent out of the existing roster. Dickerson will look to help Girardi in the latter’s third year with the team and boost an organization that has been stuck in a near .500 rut for four years in a row.
Philadelphia’s move to rehire a respected defensive coach comes on the heels of what the front office surely recognizes was an organizational weakness this past season. By measure of Defensive Runs Saved the Phillies ranked last in all of baseball in 2021, with the Jean Segura-manned second base the only position on the team to score plus marks in the metric.
As for the Padres, the departure of Dickerson comes as no surprise in the wake of recent firings to pitching coach Larry Rothschild and manager Jayce Tingler. It remains to be seen what other changes await a San Diego dugout that is quickly growing accustomed to making them.
More to come?
No thanks.
I’m happy with these hires, but this is going on like the 5th year in a row where the Phillies bring in a slew of new coaches. There needs to be some consistency.
Pretty interesting watching Joe G assemble a staff of His Guys, @Hayes.
Meanwhile back in the BX:
His former boss just fired the only guy his replacement was “allowed”. & that replacement will be merely a quarter of the new coaches whom are hired by our *GM*. *Not* the manager.
I prefer the way the Phils/Giradri/Dumbrowski are doing it.
But then, Joe G is an actual manager while Boone is an administrator. So I guess it’s apples to oranges or whatever.
Markedly different organizational philosophies.
@ Ducky;
Shock! I upvoted your post.
Cashman is as big a micro-manager as Preller and a few others are (watch Dipoto). He does not delegate, and he doesn’t appear to create an environment to allow affected personnel to participate and buy into the process. Rather it appears that he takes some input and makes the decisions.
He worked with George’s “baseball people” such as Gene Michael, Joe Torre, Joe Girardi and others. They had disagreements, but they were all skilled baseball people. From afar it seems he now thinks he’s in their league and that no one else in the Yankees hierarchy is – so he and Hal run the show.
While you wouldn’t know it from the tone of most posts made here, successful MLB team building has become a collaborative team process. That worked well with the small market teams starting with the Rays and expanding out to others. Chaim Bloom immediately began working relationships with his inherited staff, with the Red Sox succeeding with a minimal amount of turnover. (As I noted above, Dombrowski is slowly bringing people to work in his Plillies regime, but he didn’t come in and clean house). Cashman is at the point that analytic people were at in maybe the early 2000’s. He’s building from the inside out trying to fill holes, instead of haveing an overall plan and having an infrastructure of support personnel (scouts, coaches and developers, etc.) to work towards that end. He’s like a Doctor that can’t analyze the disease from the symptoms and then begin comprehensive treatment, but rather treats individual symptoms as they pop up with the belief in time that he’ll have a healthy patient – not unlike American medicine today.
Perhaps, @Samuel. I’ve upvoted a post or two of yours in the past.
I just think separating the front office & the dugout is a viable way to operate a ballclub.
You are kind of talking out of your behind with that “Cashman is at the point of early 2000’s clubs with analytics” stuff though. The Yanks have had one of the biggest analytics departments in MLB for a decade, bro. Cash got on board with all that right away. For better or worse. But no one outspends the Yanks there & it’s been like that for a loooooooong time.
Here is the major problem you have when looking at the Yanks. & I mean YOU personally. You are a Royals fan (didn’t they make their first hire of an analytics guy a year ago?!) so you try to shoehorn some type of Royals approach to what the Yanks do.
Can’t do that, bro.
Dayton Moore can get away with making excuses while posting a losing record in 15 out of 18 seasons at the helm. That would be completely unacceptable for us. Gotta be in the playoffs every year. Even if you do a mini in-season rebuild, you still have to be in the WC race in September (remember those?).
Different doctors for different symptoms, man.
One GM is tasked with winning 95 games/year (Cashman), the other (Moore) 75/year.
A ten year “restructuring/excuse making” plan ain’t gunna fly with the Yankees. You seem to enjoy rebuilding & stuff. Which is fine!
But I am a lifelong Yankee fan. I am interested in winning. It’s tough to explain unless you are actually one of us. It’s unlike any other kind of fandom.
Make sense?
Cashman, as noted, worked with legit baseball people such as Gene Michael and Joe Torre… now he thinks he’s on par with their knowledge.
What’s scarier, this compares to having watched TV series such as Grey’s Anatomy and Marcus Welty and now he thinks he’s a real doctor.
Lol
@ VonPurpleHayes;
It may be the firth year in a row, but this is the Dombrowski regime.
I’ll keep writing it here – the ,most important prerequisite to team building and winning in MLB today is not buying players in FA, making trades, or developing players in your farm system. Rather, it’s maximizing the games of the individual players on your roster and getting them to play within their role on the team.
MLB team success pivots around pitching, and defense is needed to support that pitching.
The Dombrowski regime started a year ago. He (and any new POBO) can’t simply go out and hire all the ML coaches, FO people, scouts, minor league developers, etc, that he wants. That infrastructure has to be built over a period of years as qualified candidates become available.
I think the Dombrowski-Girardi tandem will be successful, but it will take time – and how successful cannot be projected, As I’ve written, I saw too many players on the 2021 Phillies whose games regressed, or didn’t get better. It appears that’s being addressed as best it can.
I didn’t consider the development part until a few years ago. I didn’t think much about when Cleveland always developed more pitching than the Red Sox. Then I decided to put some numbers to it, and I was more than a little surprised. I assumed that Cleveland drafted more pitching, and the RS drafted more hitting, but that really wasn’t the case.
The RS have drafted a fair amount of pitchers over the years, with little success, And Cleveland wasn’t drafting 98 mph HS pitchers. Most of their guys just throw strikes. I started to think this might be a development issue.
The thing that really put me over the top was Houck. He wasn’t a top prospect, but he’s been about as successful as any of our prospects. I’m not going to blindly give credit to Bloom, but it is not only possible, but I think likely, that he brought over some development processes from TB.
Agree, no shortage of new, warm bodies out there, but new doesn’t mean good. Or better. Mets got the same affliction, but everyone knows that (but them).
New coaches do nothing for this organization.We need PITCHERS and maybe change the PC from the inexperienced clown Cotham to maybe another Girardi guy Larry Rothchild proven winner.This team needs to go old school and play small ball and stop waiting on 3 run homers.
Wheeler, Nola, Suarez, Gibson. Eflin. That’s a pitching staff that could get you to the playoffs, although some backend depth is needed to cover injuries. The bullpen will improve naturally thanks to the SP depth. The offense and defense need to be bolstered. I wouldn’t mind a reliable closer, but that’s no easy task.
Nola ????-Eflin is toast won’t see him until mid season best.They need at least 1 starter a #2 Nola is no where near a 2 anymore.
Nola had 1 bad season, and even in that season he had some stellar games. Too many Phillies fans are giving up on him.
The phillies have changed pitching coaches for the past 3 years. Maybe giving the same voice for 2 years in a row can’t hurt. The hire of Dickerson is a sound move and perhaps he can help with Bohm as well as Segura. Segura made somebody errors at the end of the year.
Dickerson has some great tutorials on YouTube for infield drills – knowledgeable guy & good hire.
He was lauded as a great, great coach when going into San Diego. Considering that AJ Preller pulled Tatis and Machado from infield drills, I guess Dickerson wasn’t valued. Tatis had a lot of bonehead errors…
Real baseball guys probably will avoid the Prellerdres unless they get him to back off.
Preller has made a ton of missteps, the new manager will probably be one of those. I don’t see a manager named Buck or Bruce taking the team. Phil Nevin should be forewarned too.
It couldn’t get any worse for the Phillies. They had four guys that couldn’t field at all. Two of them on the left side of the infield.
Pretty cool video on the Orioles YouTube channel of him instructing the infielders. Check it out if you want. Feel super nerdy typing this out
As an Os fan Bobby Dickerson was awesome
Coaches do more harm than good and the less coaching you have the better
Like I have said a million you can’t polish a TERD and Hoskins,Bohm,Gregorius are terds fielding.Polish away!!!!!