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Mets Parting Ways With Zack Scott

By Anthony Franco | November 1, 2021 at 10:59pm CDT

The Mets are parting ways with acting general manager Zack Scott, reports Andy Martino of SNY. His tenure in the New York front office lasts a little less than a year, as the Mets hired him away from the Red Sox as an assistant GM last December.

Scott was bumped up to acting general manager a little more than a month later, once then-GM Jared Porter was dismissed after Porter’s prior sexual harassment of a reporter came to light. Scott was in charge of daily baseball operations in Queens for much of this past season, but his own future in the organization came into question when he was arrested and charged with a DWI at the end of August. The Mets placed Scott on administrative leave once his arrest was made public, and that course of events will result in his departure from the organization.

Once Scott was placed on leave, team president Sandy Alderson assumed control of day-to-day baseball ops. Alderson is expected to move back into a broader advisory role — as he initially intended when rejoining the Mets last year — and the club has been on the hunt for a new baseball operations head since the end of the regular season. That search has involved some highly-publicized misses on their early targets (Theo Epstein, David Stearns, and Billy Beane among them), and most recent reports suggest the club has turned their attention to younger, up-and-coming executives with other clubs.

Settling on a baseball operations leader remains the biggest point of order for the Mets to kick off their offseason. Over the summer, it seemed like Scott was a plausible candidate to eventually take hold of that role permanently. But his arrest and subsequent leave placement seemed to foreclose that possibility, and there’d been no indication he was in consideration for the position since the end of the season.

It remains to be seen whether or when Scott will land elsewhere, although that could depend on the resolution of his still-pending legal matter. Deesha Thosar of the New York Daily News reported last week that Scott’s trial is set to begin on December 8.

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  1. MarlinsFanBase

    1 year ago

    Next up…

    It seems like Deven Marrero has more organization longevity and stability than any leadership the Mets hire.

    Reply
    • pburns65

      1 year ago

      chaim

      Reply
      • The Mets "Missed WAR"

        1 year ago

        So Steve Cohen invites Zack Scott over to his house, gives him enough alcohol to intoxicate him while he’s there, let’s him drive home after getting him drunk, and then fires him for it? Very interesting way for Cohen to try and build a successful front office and baseball team. Even with the Wilpons gone the biggest problem with this team is still the owner.

        Reply
        • YankeesBleacherCreature

          1 year ago

          As usual, you like to create your own narratives in your head. Cohen’s party ended around 8:30pm and Scott was found at 4:17am by the police asleep at a stop light. There is a 7+ hour time gap. These are also grown adults at a party and it isn’t anyone job to babysit them. If anyone got too drunk, I’m sure one of many Cohen’s handlers could’ve arrange transportation and overnight parking. He lives in a mansion and employs valet attendants for large social functions.

        • StudWinfield

          1 year ago

          If you need your employer to monitor your alcohol intake at his party then you are probably not the right person for the job.

        • kingman1

          1 year ago

          So Scott leaves party at Cohen’s at around 8:30 pm and is found allegedly intoxicated at 4:17 am which is about 8 hours later. In summary he must have had about 16 drinks at Cohen’s and in a unconscious state. Which idiotic sportswriter did you get that info from?

        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          Missed WAR-There but for the grace of God, but I still think that’s an odd take. This isn’t a bunch of 18 year old kids getting drunk at the park. Or a 25 year old that just got an unplanned invite by the boss.

          This is more like when Dykstra and friends went to a bachelor party and weren’t smart enough to order a car service ahead of time.

          When you’re 44 years old, you should know whether or not you’ll be drinking (no, maybe a light beer is the correct answer). When your salary might be a 7-figure job, rent out a car service for 4 hours.

        • The Mets "Missed WAR"

          1 year ago

          I guess he could’ve stopped off somewhere at a bar or something and drank more. I just remember reading somewhere (I think it was on this site) that said he pulled over and went to sleep and told the officers he did it on the way home from Cohen’s party. I haven’t a clue how long he was asleep. To be fair to Scott he didn’t take a breathalyzer. There’s no way to prove he was actually drunk and I’m pretty sure he won’t get convicted. There are some people who always refuse to take a breathalyzer. There are also some officers who always arrest people for DUI just for refusing a breathalyzer. It’s really hard to get a DUI conviction without that so by legal standards my guess is Scott is actually not guilty.

        • Bob333

          1 year ago

          If you refuse a breathalyzer you are admitting guilt and you get a DUI so nothing to beat.

        • The Mets "Missed WAR"

          1 year ago

          @Bob333: You sound like someone who has little experience with this issue. If you refuse a breathalyzer you get ARRESTED for a DUI. Then you go to court and plead not guilty. Then you get found NOT GUILTY due to lack of evidence. All taking a breathalyzer does is provide evidence for people trying to prosecute you. Refusing to take a breathalyzer is not evidence of guilt. It is the exact opposite. It is a lack of evidence of guilt. No one should ever take a breathalyzer because every single person who asks you to do so is only trying to build evidence against you. It’s a stupid decision to even converse with people like that. Refusing a breathalyzer is not “admitting guilt.” This is a free country. Not the Soviet Union.

    • MetsFan22

      1 year ago

      You must be proud of how well the marlins did. I mean thier great young players like brinson and Diaz did amazing. Even Cabrera came up and pitched lights out.

      Reply
      • MarlinsFanBase

        1 year ago

        @MetsFan22

        It’s not like every team could win 103 in total for both 2020 and 2021 like your Mets did. I only wish we had understood that’s what you meant instead of us thinking that you meant the Mets would win 103 in 2021. Now that we know, we have to admit that you nailed it – 26 wins (2020) + 77 wins (2021) does indeed calculate to 103 wins.

        Reply
        • davidk1979

          1 year ago

          Your team has no fans and went nearly twenty years without sniffing the playoffs

        • MarlinsFanBase

          1 year ago

          Your team has the longest World Series Championship drought in the NL East.

          My team has won just as many championships as your team…in 31 less years of existence.

          I like this game.

          Please go on.

        • MarlinsFanBase

          1 year ago

          Further @davidk1979

          Interesting name. Why? It’s because it seems like when Mets fans try to bash other fan bases, it’s like Mets fans are pretending that their attendance in 1979 never happened.

        • MannyBeingMVP

          1 year ago

          You two play nice.

          Mets had 203 million payroll and 77 wins.

          Marlins had 70 million payroll and 67 wins.

          If Marlins added Nick Castellanos, Jorge Soler, Corey Seager and a top relief pitcher they would be at least as good as Mets and still be spending less. And if they brought ina free agent starter, they could trade a younger starter for a better catcher.

          What is worse, a cheap team that loses by being cheap or a dumb team that spends more but not wisely? Either way, the fans lose.

        • davidk1979

          1 year ago

          Lol attendance jokes from a Marlins fan lmao

        • metfan4ever

          1 year ago

          Marlinsfanbase. Enjoy you empty stadium and cheapest ownership ever. You are the whole fan base. We never gave up a triple crown winner .

        • Cosmo2

          1 year ago

          How is Marlin ownership cheap? They’ve been rebuilding since they got there after unloading money to start over. It’s called a smart plan. Most fans want the Mets “plan”: spend spend spend. Win? Not so much.

      • tstats

        1 year ago

        PCA worth Baez?

        Reply
      • WarkMohlersJr

        1 year ago

        Metsfan22 never fails to attack the the Marlins when his team doesn’t live up to his expectations. The Marlins have a lot to be proud of, especially with their pitching development (Mets should try it).

        Reply
        • metfan4ever

          1 year ago

          Have you watched the Marlins. Pitching, who.

        • Bud Selig Fan

          1 year ago

          I’ve watched the Marlins pitching and with further, natural development it will rival MKE in 2023 for the best, deepest starting staff in the game. Mets fans should be concerned, very concerned, along with the rest of the NL.

  2. Al Hirschen

    1 year ago

    Clean up the loose Stools

    Reply
    • GASoxFan

      1 year ago

      To do that you’ve got two aldersons to age

      Reply
      • Tomas7

        1 year ago

        They’ll probably promote the younger Alderson and protect him, the problem of nepotism.

        Reply
  3. idk3rd

    1 year ago

    this org is such a mess…

    Reply
    • kodiak920

      1 year ago

      It really is.

      Reply
    • Robrock30

      1 year ago

      I’ll Drink to This! LOL

      Reply
  4. davidk1979

    1 year ago

    Suggests the next gm hire is imminent

    Reply
    • Monkey’s Uncle

      1 year ago

      Or, it suggests that they didn’t want any more PR nightmares than they’ve already had. Or possibly both, I suppose.

      Reply
    • rememberthecoop

      1 year ago

      Imminent declined to interview.

      Reply
  5. tedtheodorelogan

    1 year ago

    Wow, they fired the only guy who actually wanted to work in their front office.

    Reply
    • stymeedone

      1 year ago

      As they say, you don’t have to drink to work here, but it helps!

      Reply
      • johnsilver

        1 year ago

        Non players always get penalized 10x harder, like this. A player, in any sport gets a DUI and *maybe* 5g suspension. Non player, any title gets canned. Same with Houston cheating scam. Not *1* player suspended a single game, yet coaches and higher suspended 1y+. It’s wrong how players treated with kid gloves. Union protection is garbage, they need to be treated same. Not 2 different classes.

        Reply
        • kellin

          1 year ago

          Simple. People go to the games for the players, not the ones in the front office.. And there are players who have had their careers cut short.. bet you that Bauer won’t pitch again.

        • FredMcGriff for the HOF

          1 year ago

          I’m wondering if Puig is done in MLB.

        • GETBUCKETS

          1 year ago

          This is true.
          Getting a D W I might look normal. But, that’s a huge selfish mistake that risks your life and others.
          But, some reason people in the front office are held to a different standard. One infraction and they’re fired. Player gets one and suspended 5 games. Whether it’s a D W I or domestic abuse, etc.
          Players are the face of the franchise and kids look up to them, but they hardly get punished.
          It’s disgusting.
          They both need to be treated and penalized equally. Players need to levied heavier consequences.

        • JohhnyBets67

          1 year ago

          Ehhhh idk if I’d call it a career on Bauer just yet. He didn’t do himself any favors by being one of the most vocal jackasssses in the league before all of this.

          Had he been a talented guy who stayed out of the headlines like Zack Wheeler—I’d say it would be more likely you’d see him.

          Odubel Herrera made it back after a DV case and he’s hardly the player Bauer is.

    • bucsfan0004

      1 year ago

      It would be fitting if Scott immediately gets scooped up by the Rays or Dodgers

      Reply
      • meckert

        1 year ago

        No it would be most fitting if he landed with the Brewers.

        Reply
  6. powerboat9

    1 year ago

    First mistake was to give Lindor a ten year contract, before his first official at bat.There is a reason why the Indians couldn’t wait to get rid of him . His hitting was declining and he was demanding a big contract. Then all of the crap came into place. I’m wondering about mister hedge fund Mr. Stevie!

    Reply
    • Grade_1_teacher

      1 year ago

      Lindor sickens me. He is Carlos Baerga at 20 times the cost.

      Reply
      • Monkey’s Uncle

        1 year ago

        Moral of the story: the Mets should stop getting their middle infielders from the Indi… oops, I mean, from the Guardians.

        Reply
      • Rsox

        1 year ago

        It’s sad when Alvaro Espinoza wound up the better player for the Mets…

        Reply
    • SoCalBrave

      1 year ago

      Couldn’t wait? lol, they literally waited until the next to last possible time to trade him. They had chances to trade him the 2 previous seasons and get more for him than they got from the Mutz.
      Lindor will be fine. Next year he will put up big numbers while playing his usual above average defense.
      If you want to argue that he isn’t worth what he got, that’s reasonable, but to call it a mistake on year 1, is not accurate.

      Reply
  7. dave frost nhlpa

    1 year ago

    So they fired a guy who snagged a DUI? An NFL job awaits….

    Reply
    • rememberthecoop

      1 year ago

      Tony LaRussa says hello.

      Reply
      • Monkey’s Uncle

        1 year ago

        Now now, be fair to Tony. He’s quite possibly drunk when he’s doing a lot more things besides driving.

        Reply
        • rememberthecoop

          1 year ago

          Yeah, you’re right. I’ll do better next time.

        • Gomez Toth

          1 year ago

          Now *that’s* funny.

  8. antone

    1 year ago

    Mets should hire Bobby Bonilla to be GM since he’s already in the payroll system.

    Reply
    • Monkey’s Uncle

      1 year ago

      It would save the time and hassle of filling out the W-2.

      Reply
    • vtadave

      1 year ago

      Bonilla has already turned down the POBO position.

      I nominate Lenny Dykstra.

      Reply
      • Lee Mazzilli for HOF

        1 year ago

        Dykstra might the it. With his background he should fit right in with the hiring pylosoph.

        Reply
  9. Grade_1_teacher

    1 year ago

    Just make Keith Hernandez the GM already.

    Reply
    • ahh

      1 year ago

      Or Dwight Gooden.

      Reply
    • nosoupforyou

      1 year ago

      Keith Hernandez!?!?

      Reply
      • nosoupforyou

        1 year ago

        A second later, something happened that changed us in a deep and profound way front that day forward.

        What was it?

        He spit on us.

        Reply
        • PikeParker

          1 year ago

          Unfortunately, the immutable laws of physics contradict the whole premise of your account.

  10. Metsfan-22

    1 year ago

    Onward and upward. Sky is the limit. I could even see a Cashman/Beane duo as they accept co-GM positions

    Reply
    • Bill Kane

      1 year ago

      It isn’t only Scott with a drinking problem because that is the only way that comment makes sense.

      Reply
    • McQ5

      1 year ago

      You can’t be serious with this right?

      Reply
      • gbs42

        1 year ago

        Remember the Hyphens!

        Reply
  11. Monkey’s Uncle

    1 year ago

    Next up, Michael Scott?

    Reply
    • TJECK109

      1 year ago

      I like the idea… one thing about him is that he isn’t superstitious, he’s just a little stitious.

      Reply
      • IronBallsMcGinty

        1 year ago

        That’s what she said

        Reply
    • tstats

      1 year ago

      He would get in trouble for an I’ll timed that’s what she said joke

      Reply
  12. Yankee Clipper

    1 year ago

    I never thought I’d say it sucks to be any billionaire, but Cohen is fast approaching that threshold. Plus, he can’t win (off the field either), he hires a dude to replace a deviant and the new guy gets all hammered and caught driving. They’re going to have to polygraph their next victim, uh, I mean, GM/manager.

    They should just overpay for Washington for manager at this point. Even if he falls off the wagon again, it won’t be a shock to most people with the Mets trends under Cohen.

    Reply
    • Monkey’s Uncle

      1 year ago

      Washington honestly would be a pretty good choice. They’re certainly going to need someone with experience and who is good at personal relationships, which from what I’ve gathered he is.

      Reply
    • Camden453

      1 year ago

      It’s been only a year. They added Francisco Lindor and signed him for ten years

      Give the guy a chance. You can’t finish building a plan in one year

      Reply
      • Cosmo2

        1 year ago

        And adding Lindor to a terrible, monster contract is strike one. So far the “plan” looks awful. How do you build when your payroll is 90% maxed out after your first move?

        Reply
    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      1 year ago

      Yeah, it’s funny how quietly Bob Melvin jumped shipped with the A’s and latched on with the Padres. At this point, the Mets should just stop talking to the press about any potential candidates. k

      Reply
  13. TJECK109

    1 year ago

    So a cheater, someone involved in sexual harassment and one with a DWI all hired as Mets leadership in the last 2 years. Can’t imagine why people are not jumping at jobs

    Reply
    • Monkey’s Uncle

      1 year ago

      I thought for a second there that you were going to tell a joke: “A cheater, someone involved in sexual harassment, and one with a DWI all walk into the Mets offices…”

      Reply
      • Dr. Chim Richalds

        1 year ago

        Unfortunately, there is no punch line. It was just a regular Tuesday.

        Reply
      • bbcalmc

        1 year ago

        and the cheater says to the sex deviant….”

        Reply
        • Dallas Mets

          1 year ago

          Buy one “sex on the beach”, you get the second one free.

    • AgeeHarrelsonJones

      1 year ago

      Two people with sexual harassment allegations- remember Mick the *ick Callaway!

      Reply
  14. Camden453

    1 year ago

    “I’d make that trade” -Steve Phillips, Prospect Strasburg for Roy Oswalt, espn radio, 2010

    Reply
    • Lee Mazzilli for HOF

      1 year ago

      Did he make the kazmir deal?

      Reply
  15. VonPurpleHayes

    1 year ago

    Hopefully they provide him car service on the way out.

    Reply
  16. MetsFan22

    1 year ago

    Any other team and the comments are turned off. I personally think no comment section should be off but this is getting ridiculous…

    Reply
    • McQ5

      1 year ago

      You’re right this site hates the Mets so comments turned on……

      Reply
      • PikeParker

        1 year ago

        They LOVE the Mets – nobody generates more traffic. I’m only here for the Mets comments myself.

        Reply
    • misterlol

      1 year ago

      Lol

      Reply
    • DarkSide830

      1 year ago

      because…?

      Reply
    • VonPurpleHayes

      1 year ago

      MetsFan22 complaining about ridiculous comments…

      Reply
    • pinstripes17

      1 year ago

      LOLMETS

      Reply
  17. Rangers29

    1 year ago

    You know your organization is bad whenever people don’t remember if the GM you’re firing had a D-dubya-I or committed segg-ual a$-$ult.

    Reply
    • Rangers29

      1 year ago

      Mind you, I only put all the dashes and stuff because it said I needed to wait on moderation without it.

      Reply
  18. MannyBeingMVP

    1 year ago

    A mushroom submitted a resume to be the Mets president of baseball operations.

    Cohen said “no”.

    The mushroom said, “Why not, I am a fun-gi”. (A fun guy)

    This is a metaphor for the Mets front office being a complete joke.

    Reply
    • MannyBeingMVP

      1 year ago

      Actually an allegory not a “Mets-aphor”!

      Reply
  19. StudWinfield

    1 year ago

    I’ll speculate that Scott was given the choice of pobo or get canned

    Reply
    • MannyBeingMVP

      1 year ago

      More likely he was given the choice to stop drinking or be fired and chose the later.

      Reply
  20. mlb1225

    1 year ago

    They’re gonna hire Neal Huntington. I just have some gut feeling that he’s going to end up as the POBO or GM.

    Reply
    • MannyBeingMVP

      1 year ago

      I still have my money that Shildt will be considered for field manager and Ludnow for either GM or president of baseball operations.

      Reply
      • Bob333

        1 year ago

        neither wants those jobs not with the Mets,Owner is the entire problem.Stupid fans say oh just throw them more money he has tried but still gets turned down.
        Owner needs to step aside get off twitter and then maybe someone will work for him.

        Reply
  21. kingman1

    1 year ago

    This is what happens when ignorant writers makes up stories to gain clicks from ignorant fans.

    Reply
  22. PoloGrounds62

    1 year ago

    Cohen invites him to a party, gets him shitfaced, makes him sleep in his car, and calls the cops on him. This is a multimillion dollar lawsuit settled out of court. I’m going to go back to my family roots and follow the Giants. In 20 years when Cohen sells the team, I can watch them again.

    Reply
    • Tomas7

      1 year ago

      I’m a free-agent fan and am looking at the Padres with Melvin managing, as a backup or secondary team; I haven’t left the Mets yet, waiting to see what happens.

      Reply
      • Lou Orlando

        1 year ago

        Tomas7: This year, root for the D-Backs. Once they get rid of all the dead wood, they’ll be a young and fun team to watch. Ain’t gonna catch the Dodgers, but I could see them finishing third.

        Reply
  23. Cohens_Wallet

    1 year ago

    I agree with this decision if it’s strictly a question of whether he’d be the GM or not. If this decision is based solely on the D.U.I then I’d understand why no executive would want to work here.

    Reply
  24. pwndroia

    1 year ago

    I love how everyone predicted the Mets would win the division this year. Far from what actually happened. Spending doesn’t get you wins all the time.

    Reply
    • MannyBeingMVP

      1 year ago

      “Everyone” did not pick the Mets to win. Lots of people picked the Braves and Phillies, some thought the Nationals or Marlins. I definitely picked the Braves at the beginning before Acura was out for the year. After they beat the Dodgers, I also picked the Braves to win the WS in five so don’t count on me for your next bet.

      Reply
      • VonPurpleHayes

        1 year ago

        Smart people picked the Braves. Plenty on these boards did. Certain Mets fans were just extremely vocal about overrating their team. It’ll be the same next year. Especially when the Mets start strong like they always do.

        Reply
        • Appalachian_Outlaw

          1 year ago

          Bingo. Twelve of their first 21 games next season will be against the Nats & Arizona, so they’ll probably get out the gate quick. There are some cool Mets fans, but there will also be a small vocal group that will be unbearable after what will surely be a fast start.

        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          Every fan wants to think that this is their year. It’s the beauty of baseball.

          But some of the NYM fans were off the rails in April. I tried to tell them that they were a .433 team in 2020, but some of them thought they could just skip the 162-game schedule. Even now, not much has changed. Some of them still think that, without injuries, they’d have run away with this thing. Almost like the Braves losing Acuna, Ozuna and Soroka was a minor inconvenience.

        • Cosmo2

          1 year ago

          A lot of fans in general, but particularly Met fans, think you can “LeBron” a baseball team…. ie, sign a huge name to a huge deal and instantly catapult your way to success but what works in the NBA doesn’t work here. Fans, however, are so beholden to this notion that they then come up with excuses (injuries) when the plan doesn’t work, rather than rethink things.

  25. Yankeesfan22

    1 year ago

    I think an overlooked name is Billy Eppler he already worked for a moneybags owner that gets in his own way!

    Reply
  26. Rsox

    1 year ago

    Maybe a series of guest GM’s and PoBO’s. Like Jeopardy…

    Reply
    • Monkey’s Uncle

      1 year ago

      I’ll take “Disgraced Former Employees” for $200.

      Reply
    • BRUH.SF.BRUH

      1 year ago

      Aaron Rodgers has the springs off…

      Reply
  27. texasguscc

    1 year ago

    This is BS. What happens if he’s found innocent? He never took a test. The lawyer can argue excessive work and show cause. Plus, what if it’s his first offense, and going home from the owner’s party… how sad. I don’t like seeing this kind of recklessness with people.

    Reply
    • lordd99

      1 year ago

      It may have nothing to do with the upcoming hearing. It probably has more to do with Cohen ensuring the new GM doesn’t have to deal with a legacy GM, even one with an interim title. Frankly, Alderson and son should also be cleared out. There are some rumors indicating the two Alderson’s are actually the main concern candidates have had taking the position. It’s a legitimate concern.

      Reply
    • MannyBeingMVP

      1 year ago

      Except Scott only got the job because the prior pick had even greater transgressions.

      Reply
  28. lordd99

    1 year ago

    I was getting concerned we wouldn’t have a Mets front office story today.

    It is interesting timing. Maybe this is an indication they’re getting close to a GM hire and Cohen and Alderson want the new person to enter with a clean slate.

    Reply
    • Appalachian_Outlaw

      1 year ago

      You can’t have a clean slate until Alderson is off golfing somewhere or something.

      Reply
  29. MannyBeingMVP

    1 year ago

    The Mets are better than the Diamondbacks and better than the Pirates by default because Pittsburgh does not spend enough. Next year the Mets will be better than the Nationals. The Marlins have developed great pitching but they will not be in the mix unless they acquire a couple of stud free agent outfielders, maybe a couple of the guys presently on the Braves? I really see the Braves wining their division again next year. I see the Dodgers and Brewers winning divisions. So the question is can the Mets compete next year with SF, SD, St. Louis and Philly for two wild cards. And the answer is a resounding no unless they acquire around four stars in the off-season. The Mets are better off slowly rebuilding their player development and making sensible acquisitions rather than bringing in name players with talent like Lindor but at double the salary they are worth. Give it a couple more years and you will see that Lindor is a talented enough player to be worth half his salary.

    Reply
  30. Rick Pernell

    1 year ago

    …….Ron Blomberg is available and has “New York” experience.

    Reply
  31. Yankee Clipper

    1 year ago

    I hear Trevor Bauer is looking for work; and, he seems to fit the mold of Cohen hires.

    Or maybe Diblasio? He did a bang-up job with our city too.

    Reply
    • pinstripes17

      1 year ago

      Cohen will hire Cuomo, he seems to fit the mold as well.

      Reply
    • dodger1958

      1 year ago

      Yankee we could add Mayor Rudy. He did a bang up job last year or so.

      Reply
  32. Cohens_Wallet

    1 year ago

    You can pay for school but you can’t buy class

    Reply
  33. Lou Orlando

    1 year ago

    If the Mets can stay healthy, always a big if with them, they are better than the rest of the NL East. And that assessment is coming from a lifelong Phillies fan.

    I’d let Baez walk. He’ll never endear himself to New York after his sophomoric prank. Instead, use whatever money he’d command on the bullpen and a solid #4 SP. The offense, again if the guys can stay healthy, is just fine.

    Reply
    • VonPurpleHayes

      1 year ago

      @Lou Orlando How much can you possibly disrespect the Braves? If the Mets stay healthy they MAY (emphasizing MAY) be better than the Phillies, but they’re certainly worse than the Braves.

      I honestly think the Mets lineup is terribly constructed, and their pitching depth relies on some arms with injury history. Honestly they were banged up pretty bad early, but during the second half, when it really mattered, they were fairly healthy and just flat-out bad. The deGrom injury was huge, but he only pitches every fifth game. I just think they’re mediocre squad as currently constructed. I do expect them to reshuffle though. No where near the Braves, but close to that Phillies spot. A decent team that needs a few more pieces to really make a push.

      Reply
      • jim stem

        1 year ago

        @von. I’m just curious for discussion’s sake, why do you think they are ‘terribly constructed’ on the field?

        Reply
        • VonPurpleHayes

          1 year ago

          @jim steam Terribly constructed lineup. I just mean strictly offensively. This core has struggled to hit consistently going on 3 years. Players like Smith are redundant because you have Alonso. You don’t need two sluggers who aren’t great fielders and tend to strikeout a lot. 1 is more than enough, and Alonso’s power justifies his presence in the lineup. Smith would be better suited elsewhere IMO. You need more guys to get on base consistently. Nimmo fits that role well, but they need more. They have too many swing-and-miss guys. I understand that’s modern baseball, but the Mets struggled more than most at the plate, especially with runners on base. They also don’t really have a lot of guys who can run well, which makes it hard to develop scoring opportunities. No one is stealing bases…etc.

    • Appalachian_Outlaw

      1 year ago

      @Lou- What?! How?! Lol!

      They threw massive money at Lindor, which is looking pretty terrible in hindsight. The rotation has major question marks all over it. McCann may have been a monumental mistake.

      It’s early, but today the Braves are clearly better. I think the Phillies are in a better spot than the Mets, too. If I have a mega-deal on my books, I’d take Harper over Lindor every day because Harper helps you.

      I’d argue the Mets are 3rd best on paper, and with the right moves Miami could jump them.

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      • JoeBrady

        1 year ago

        I’d take Harper over Lindor every day because Harper helps you.
        =======================================
        FWIW, a lot of Philly phans were saying the same thing about Harper after his first year. IMO, I think Lindor will go right back to being the 5 WAR AS-level player he’s always been. From 5/6 on, he had an .802 OPS. If you want to write off a player for 25 games, so be it, but I would suggest that you are wrong.

        Reply
        • Cosmo2

          1 year ago

          Lindor wasn’t too far from 5 WAR this year. Problem is, they are paying him and counting on him being more like a 7 WAR player. I don’t think he’s a bust, it’s just a terrible allocation of resources.

        • VonPurpleHayes

          1 year ago

          @Cosmo2 I will say the addition of Lindor and Baez turned the Mets into a solid defensive team, something they weren’t in previous years. Now if only they could hit…and pitch.

        • Cosmo2

          1 year ago

          But overall it isn’t worth the cost. The name of the game here is efficiency. And neither of those moves were efficient.

        • VonPurpleHayes

          1 year ago

          @Cosmo which is why I’m not sold on Cohen. He seems to prefer chasing headlines and making splashes. The Baez move at the deadline made 0 sense to me. I’m not sure if that’s on Cohen or Sandy or what, but it didn’t address what they needed at the time, while I actually thought picking up Rich Hill was smart.

  34. jim stem

    1 year ago

    I think the Mets front office debacle is a microcosm of society today.

    Drinking, harassment, internet, false sense of reality, believing media hype, irresponsible spending, deviant behavior, bad hiring, lack of quality help and so on.

    The only good thing has been the quality of human being that has made it through the organization and taken the field. NONE of the Mets players who have made it to the big league level that we drafted, have caused issues or acted in a negative manner in any way. Kudos to our scouting system and who ever made the decision to draft these players.

    There, something positive has been stated for a change.

    Reply
    • JoeBrady

      1 year ago

      I’m not sure that society today is much different than society when I grew up 100 years ago. In fact, I think my friends and I were probably much like the children of the cavemen 6,000 years ago.

      Reply
    • Dallas Mets

      1 year ago

      Sounds like the ’86 Mets?

      Reply
    • Cosmo2

      1 year ago

      All of those things you mention, except for the internet, are basically plot lines of the show Mad Men. Nothing new at all.

      Reply
  35. forwhomjoshbelltolled

    1 year ago

    Which team is more incompetent/cursed, the Mets or the Jets?

    I still say Jets, but Mets are making it a contest.

    Reply
    • JoeBrady

      1 year ago

      Your failure to include the Knicks in this conversation invalidates the entire survey. In a league where everyone with a pulse, makes the playoffs, they have only made it 5x in 20 years. Their winning % has been below .399 in 11 of those 20 years. In the 6 years from 2014-2019, they played .309 ball. If this was BB, it would be the equivalent of averaging 112 losses a year.

      In a league with a draft, how is that even possible?

      Reply
      • Appalachian_Outlaw

        1 year ago

        A lot of New York sports teams suffer from the same problem- poor ownership.

        Mets, Knicks, Jets- all bad ownership thus far.

        The NYG aren’t very good, but that’s more on the GM.

        The Yankees & Rangers are the only good teams in NY presently, and that’s almost hard to fathom.

        Reply
        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          In the case of the Knicks and Mets, the one thing they have in common is that the owners kind of gifted the team to their sons to run. I’m not sure either of the two sons have a college degree, and neither have professional sports experience.

      • forwhomjoshbelltolled

        1 year ago

        I didn’t include the Knicks because they don’t fit the traditional NY sports team pattern of one good team and their dimwitted cousin.

        So, Yankees vs. Mets or Giants vs Jets. When Charles Wang and Garth Snow ere there, it was Rangers vs Islanders, too. The Knicks don’t fit that mold*.

        I also don’t follow the NBA at all….though, the Knicks incompetence is quite legendary so I am, in fact, aware of it.

        *After posting this I realized they moved the Nets to Brooklyn so actually, the Knicks now totally fit that pattern. See the “I also don’t follow the NBA at all” statement.

        Reply
    • VonPurpleHayes

      1 year ago

      It’s the Jets. Not even close. The Mets aren’t even all that bad historically. They only started in the 60s and they have 2 World Series championships and 9 playoff appearances, 2 of the 9 in the last decade.

      Keep in mind the Mets play in the same division as the Braves. The Braves have more division titles than any team in baseball. So it’s a tough division to win. Always has been. Always will be. I know we all poked fun about how bad the division was earlier this season, but the Braves and to a lesser extent Phillies finished relatively strong. I know the Phillies limped across the finish line, but they had a few hot streaks before that.

      Reply
  36. Stormintazz

    1 year ago

    Make Ron Darling the President of the Mets. He appears to have all the answers when he is broadcasting the games.

    Reply
  37. Rick Pernell

    1 year ago

    …….How many Mets can you name that should be in the LOOSER HALL of FAME?

    Reply
    • Cosmo2

      1 year ago

      As opposed to the Tighter Hall of Fame?

      Reply
    • VonPurpleHayes

      1 year ago

      Loose lips sink ships.

      Reply
  38. Mike Carlini

    1 year ago

    It seems like the Mets can’t get out of their own way these days.

    Reply
  39. powerboat9

    1 year ago

    Give Lindor a chance!!!! The is a professional baseball player, suck up guys!!! The Indians couldn’t wait to unload him. The guy is declining already , Sign Baez he will give better production even with his temper tantrum’s and strike outs!!! He is a great fielder.

    Reply
    • Cosmo2

      1 year ago

      Lindor is a great fielder too and a MUCH better player than Baez. I agree that Lindor is in decline but when you pivot from there to saying sign Baez I gotta shake my head and wonder what the heck you are thinking.

      Reply
  40. GarryHarris

    1 year ago

    What a mess

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