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Reds Willing To Discuss Luis Castillo In Trade Talks

By Mark Polishuk | November 8, 2021 at 12:30pm CDT

For the second straight offseason, Luis Castillo is figuring into some chatter on the rumor mill, as MLB Network’s Jon Morosi (Twitter link) reports that the Reds are open to discussing the right-hander in trade talks.  This represents a slight change from last year, when Reds GM Nick Krall firmly denied that Castillo was available, even though other clubs inevitably asked about Castillo.

There isn’t any guarantee that Castillo will be dealt, since another team would have to be willing to meet what is sure to be a very high asking price from Cincinnati.  However, dealing Castillo would be the clearest sign yet that the Reds are not just cutting payroll, but seemingly stepping back into some sort of a rebuild phase.  With the offseason less than a week old, the Reds have already dealt Tucker Barnhart to the Tigers and put Wade Miley on waivers, where he was claimed by the division-rival Cubs.

Those two players weren’t guaranteed to return to Cincinnati anyway in 2022 due to club options (Miley for $10MM, Barnhart for $7.5MM), and yet quickly parting ways with two productive veterans led to some dismay amongst Reds fans.  The mood didn’t improve after Krall stated that “going into 2022, we must align our payroll to our resources and continue focusing on scouting and developing young talent from within our system.”  The Reds have roughly $131.4MM on their books for next season’s payroll, yet at this point, it certainly seems like more cuts are coming.  Castillo is relatively inexpensive (projected for a $7.6MM salary in arbitration), entering his age-29 season, and is controlled through the next two seasons, so he is far more of a cornerstone piece than Barnhart or Miley.

The righty has been one of the more solid pitchers in baseball over the last five seasons, with a 3.72 ERA, 30.4% strikeout rate, 53.9% grounder rate, and 14.4 fWAR over 707 1/3 career innings.  He was an All-Star in 2019, and has looked like an ace at best and “merely” as a durable front-of-the-rotation type at worst, as Castillo has never spent any time on a Major League injured list.

It is worth noting that 2021 was something of a step back for Castillo, as he got off to a terrible start to the season and had a 7.22 ERA at the end of May.  While he righted the ship over the rest of the year, Castillo finished with only a 3.98 ERA, as well as a barely-average 23.9% strikeout rate (after a 29.4 K% in 2019-20) and only a 9.3% walk rate.  Castillo has posted subpar walk rates in three of his five years, though while control has been an issue, it hasn’t kept him from otherwise posting strong numbers.

While the Reds could explore attaching Castillo to a larger and possibly undesirable salary on the payroll (i.e. Eugenio Suarez, Mike Moustakas), moving Castillo as a part of a salary dump would seem like something of a waste, considering that trading Castillo alone would net the Reds quite a bit of younger talent.  Reporter Sung Min Kim observed that the Twins’ trade of Jose Berrios to the Blue Jays for top-100 prospects Austin Martin and Simeon Woods Richardson could be a comp for a potential Castillo deal, except the Reds would be in a position to ask for even more — a new team would have Castillo for two full seasons, whereas Toronto just acquired Berrios for the 2022 season and the final two-plus months of the 2021 campaign.

It is probably safe to assume that lots of teams have routinely checked in on Castillo’s availability, though the Yankees were one team specifically cited as being involved in some talks last winter.  New York turned down the Reds’ demand of Gleyber Torres and more in exchange for Castillo, to present an idea of just how high a price tag Cincinnati rightfully put on Castillo’s services.  It figures that the Yankees would be keen to inquire about Castillo again, except this time Torres might not be on the Reds’ radar, considering how Jonathan India now has second base locked down and Torres no longer looks like a viable shortstop.

If a Castillo trade is completed, it stands to reason that it could be the first major domino to fall in a Reds fire sale, if the team is planning to take a big step back from competing.  The likes of Sonny Gray, Tyler Mahle, Jesse Winker and others could all be on the trade block, not to mention the larger-salary players like Suarez or Moustakas.  For what it’s worth, Joey Votto has a full no-trade clause and has consistently said that he would use that clause to remain in Cincinnati for the rest of his career.

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  1. For Love of the Game

    4 years ago

    “a new team would have Castillo for two full seasons, whereas Toronto just acquired Castillo for the 2022 season and the final two-plus months of the 2021 campaign..”

    Should be “Toronto just acquired BERRIOS…”

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    • The Mets "Missed WAR"

      4 years ago

      So the Reds did all that rebuilding just for 2 years of supposed contention and now they are rebuilding again? That is the most fruitless rebuild I have ever heard of. I knew they weren’t making the best decisions when they decided their rebuild was over but I never thought it would be this bad. This has got to be tough for Refs fans. Rebuild the whole team just for one short playoff appearance and then start rebuilding again. If they had just held their horses and not jumped the gun the first rebuild would probably be ending right about now and they would actually be ready to start serious contention instead of starting another rebuild. There’s really only one rebuild format that truly works if you’re actually trying to win a WS. Keep drafting high and making moves to help your long term future. Do that over and over again. Never stop until you’re young core can get you to the playoffs on their own. Only then should you start adding the win now pieces. It doesn’t matter how long it takes. Just keep going. If you’re team isn’t ready yet it’s just not ready. That’s the reality. Deciding they are ready when they aren’t is counterproductive. I don’t understand why all teams don’t follow that plan. Unless you are going to spend over $200M a year it is the only way to truly contend for a World Championship. This idea that all rebuilds have to be ended after 5 years so the teams push all their resources into just making a playoff appearance is crazy. Don’t ever go after just a playoff appearance. That’s virtually meaningless. The only thing that matters is winning it all. If your team doesn’t look like a strong candidate to do that just keep adding pieces for the future until it does.

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      • GETBUCKETS

        4 years ago

        Well surely the pandemic plagued 2020 season affected their resources, or at least their owner’s, that they now dramatically shifted directions from contend to rebuild.

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      • Cosmo2

        4 years ago

        This is what happens when you lose patience and try to jumpstart your rebuild through free agency. Should’ve been more patient.

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        • davidewhitt

          4 years ago

          Exactly!!!! Never fully committed to rebuild. Should have started at least two years ago. I know most of my fellow Reds fans will disagree…but Mr. Castellini has been guilty of overspending….just not wisely.

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      • The Mets "Missed WAR"

        4 years ago

        That’s true. I guess they didn’t see the financial crunch coming. They still jumped the rebuild way too early. That team wasn’t nearly as ready to contend for a WS championship as they led on. If they had kept building cheaper long term pieces to help them in the future when they actually stood a chance they wouldn’t be in the financial strain they are under now. The team would also be much better and built for the long term on top of obviously being less expensive. That rebuild was not over and they are paying the price for pretending it was. Barely making the playoffs because they allow 16-teams for one season and actually contending for world championship are very different things.

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      • Kayrall

        4 years ago

        That’s great and all but what does it have to do with For Love of the Game’s comment about semantics?

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  2. 2183281

    4 years ago

    SF needs to flip Joey Bart. Could be a nice swap for Castillo considering the reds just traded Barnhart.

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    • louwhitakerisahofer

      4 years ago

      Been living under a rock? The Giants have a need for Bart to become the new every day catcher immediately…

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      • MetsFan22

        4 years ago

        I honestly don’t think Bart will be anything special. Just avg

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        • pinstripes17

          4 years ago

          Much like the Mets over the past decade

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        • Mystery Team

          4 years ago

          Bart will be just fine he’s a catcher they don’t need him to rake just hold his own.

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        • stymeedone

          4 years ago

          @metsfan22
          How much are the Mets paying a “just average” C in McCann? Guess a just ave C can be quite valuable.

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    • MIKE PAUL

      4 years ago

      why do they need to flip bart ? posey retires, bart is the catcher, i think they will hang on to him and what would the reds do with him ?

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    • joeshmoe11

      4 years ago

      Plus the Reds have Tyler Stephenson. Tucker was set to be the backup

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    • amk1920

      4 years ago

      Reds traded Barnhart to give Stephenson the everyday job and Posey just retired

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    • positively_broad_st

      4 years ago

      Reds already have a young catcher who played well in 2021. They traded Barnhart to turn the job over to Tyler Stephenson. Cincy should be looking for more pitching and an athletic CF…

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    • Pete'sView

      4 years ago

      The Reds let Barnhart go because they think they’ve got an even better catcher in Tyler Stephenson. That doesn’t mean the Giants shouldn’t go after Castillo (who was originally a Giant), but I don’t think Bart is the Reds’ return.

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    • giantsphan12

      4 years ago

      @218, at this point, I would bet my kids’ college fund on the Giants NOT trading Bart. No explanation necessary. That said, I could see Farhan putting a package together to trade for one front-of-rotation arm, although not sure if Castillo is the guy. I’m guessing Z puts together one expensive FA, one traded arm, and two reclamation projects plus Webb for the 2022 rotation. Bart and Casali will be catching.

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    • kcusgnikcufsregdod

      4 years ago

      they’re not trading Bart after the Posey news. But I can see some of their outfielders, like Ramos or Bishop, being available for Castillo.

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    • GarryHarris

      4 years ago

      CIN will use Tyler Stephenson as their primary Catcher. Therefore, CIN doesn’t need Joey Bart. Furthermore, I think Joey Bart may e the only position player in SFG. who is not for sale.

      I would expect CIN to try to package Luis Castillo off with Joey Votto

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      • Rsox

        4 years ago

        Votto has said numerous times in the past that he would veto any trade so it would do the Reds no good to try to use Castillo to entice a team to take Votto when Votto has total control of the situation.

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      • Sideline Redwine

        4 years ago

        Starting to think people go directly to the comments without reading the story. Or keeping up on what has been going on

        I mean, maybe the ‘stros can trade Carlos Correa to the reds for Castellanos? About as ludicrous as some of these comments lol

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    • Cosmo2

      4 years ago

      They need to keep Bart, why would they need to flip him?

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    • ekrog

      4 years ago

      Dude, the Reds traded Barnhart to clear the way for Tyler Stephenson. They don’t need a catcher.

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  3. mlbnyyfan

    4 years ago

    Let the Yankees rumors begin. Torres for Castillo

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    • Yankee-4-Lifer 75

      4 years ago

      @mlbnyyfan- I was thinking more like Oswaldo Peraza and Clarke Schmidt. I expect Gleyber to bounce back with fewer homeruns and a higher batting average next season.

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      • alproof

        4 years ago

        Why not throw in Horace Clarke, Yankee?

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    • Yankee Clipper

      4 years ago

      Ironically, Reds wanted Gleyber for Castillo the last time the Yankees wanted to trade for him and Yankees declined.

      Castillo is good, but he’s not great. Excluding 2020 stats, his ERA is over 4 and his FIP is ~4 as well. That’s not someone Yankees need to give up the farm for, like many in here suggest.

      1- I doubt Yankees will trade Torres
      2- I think Oswaldo Peraza would be the Reds’ starting point with the Yankees. A top pitcher would also be necessary imho, and probably one more asset, depending on how they badly want to get out of paying him.

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      • Reggie Smith

        4 years ago

        Castillo 18% fly ball rate blows away every Yankees Starting Pitcher. In that sandbox called Yankee Playground. This would be invaluable.

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      • JaxDan

        4 years ago

        The Reds will now be looking at an OF prospect since Barrero should be the starting SS and India should win ROY. I would think since Min received the 16th rated prospect from Toronto that the Reds will be holding out for Dominguez.

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        • Yankee Clipper

          4 years ago

          So, given the Yankees will likely not part with Dominguez/Volpe, It would be very difficult to line up a trade given their overall values, if their biggest need is in the OF.

          In terms of {value} they would need to include Dominguez and Peraza/Torres, plus pitching, per BTV. If Castillo’s BTV turns out to be what the Reds are seeking for him, I certainly don’t see the Yankees trading that much taken, particularly given their pitchers’ success last year.

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      • DocBB

        4 years ago

        Not true…

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    • Rsox

      4 years ago

      The Reds wanted Gleyber for Castillo because they needed a SS,that was before everyone saw how terrible Gleyber is as a SS. Fast forward a year later and i don’t know what the Yankees have to dangle outside of Florial, maybe Clarke Schmidt or Luis Gil and maybe Higashioka to serve as a backup to Stephenson.

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      • Yankee-4-Lifer 75

        4 years ago

        Luis Castillo just has to get out of Cincinnati that’s all. The stuff is there. He is better than Jose Berrios or Jon Gray. He just needs a change of scenery. The Blue Jays, Rays, Red Sox and Yankees should all be in play.

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        • Yankee Clipper

          4 years ago

          Yankee 4 Life: I agree with you, and probably two more teams, at least. My assumption is that the Yankees will not give up what the Reds want for him, especially since they know what value they have in him.

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        • Yankee-4-Lifer 75

          4 years ago

          @Yankee Clipper- Dominguez and Volpe don’t have to be included in a Castillo trade. Oswaldo Peraza, Deivi Garcia, Al Abreu, and Miguel Andujar is more than enough for Castillo. If that doesn’t seem to be enough than the Yankees should try to sign Jon Gray for 4 or 5 years at $20 million a year. No reason why Gray can’t be a #2 or #3 in that Yankee rotation in 2022.

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        • JoeBrady

          4 years ago

          Yankee-4-Lifer 7549 mins ago
          Rays, Red Sox and Yankees should all be in play.
          ================================
          I wanted him badly last year. My offer then was Downs for Castillo & Moose, and we absorb 100% of Moose’s salary. At this point, I’d ask Cincy to pick up a bit of salary, particularly the $4M buyout, but the structure could still work.

          Moose should have some positive regression and backs up 1st and 2nd in a platoon, and 3B when Devers needs a rest

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        • JaxDan

          4 years ago

          As a fan who follows the Reds I am sure they will not ask for Peraza since they have a rookie in Jose Barrero who should start opening day with Matt McClain and Elly DeLaCruz at SS in the minors. Their is a log jam at 3B and they have India who should win ROY. Their need is in the outfield. Would love to have Deivi Garcia as the second player.

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    • DocBB

      4 years ago

      Jasson or bust

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  4. stubby66

    4 years ago

    Really get tired of these teams that go on a spending spree in off-season then 2 yrs later they trade everyone away. They know damn well they can’t afford it. There should be a penalty for them. Especially when you got teams that don’t do that practice at all. It’s the same teams all the time .

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    • joeshmoe11

      4 years ago

      So teams trying to win in a short window should be punished? Weird take. It’s BS they’re looking to tear down but actively improving a team that usually cheaps out was a welcome reprieve

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    • kcusgnikcufsregdod

      4 years ago

      they got way too aggressive when they really shouldn’t have, yet. I hope they trade Votto, if they have no intention of competing next year, he deserves somewhere that intends on competing. Boston? NYY?

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      • schellis 2

        4 years ago

        Votto has a massive contract, full no trade, and has on multiple occasions stated clearly I’m not going anywhere. Votto is happy in Cincinnati, Votto wants to be in Cincinnati.

        If the Reds moved votto they wouldn’t get much if anything for him even if they ate the entire contract. They are much better off letting him play out the string and set some Reds all time records, basically become the greatest Red.

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        • MIKE PAUL

          4 years ago

          LOVE VOTTO as a reds fan, but he could play 20 more years and still not be the greatest red. way too many players ahead of him.

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        • joeshmoe11

          4 years ago

          Way too many Reds like Johnny Bench and Joe Morgan and…….?????

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        • ksoze

          4 years ago

          Pete Rose, Frank Robinson, After them he can compete with someone like Barry Larkin.

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        • GarryHarris

          4 years ago

          Not many… Pete Rose, Frank Robinson, Barry Larkin, Tony Perez…

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        • MIKE PAUL

          4 years ago

          bench, rose, morgan, larkin, robinson, kluszewski, bell, pinson, seaver, lombardi, roush, perez, and im not trying very hard

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        • joeshmoe11

          4 years ago

          I love me some Barry Larkin, hence the 11 in my name, but Votto is a much better hitter than Larkin at the very least. And Rose is no comparison. 124 OPS+ to 148 for Votto. Rose was really good for a really long time but he only had 2 seasons as valuable or better hitting as Votto has been for his career. Robinson was great an all time great and I missed mentioning him but he only played a decade in Cincinnati

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        • ekrog

          4 years ago

          Frank Robinson, Pete Rose to quickly name 2.

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      • redsorbust

        4 years ago

        Hey there. Votto has no trade clause. Votto has said many times for years now
        he is not going anywhere.

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      • Cosmo2

        4 years ago

        What winning team wants him and that contract now?

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    • RedsArmy

      4 years ago

      It’s the only way small market teams can win now. Marge Schott gutted the farm to build our last WS champs in 1990. The lack of competitive balance has been great for large markets, who can clearly weather market disruptions and scoop up most of the top free agents, but it’s terrible for most baseball teams who have to endure decades of losing for these short, tiny windows of competitiveness.

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    • Jockman

      4 years ago

      When u have a small market team it’s had to compete with the ny, la, and other bigger cities payrolls, they do what they can to put a competitive team on the field, Reds still have a very good pitching staff

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    • ChicksDigTheLongBaII

      4 years ago

      The Reds will get their penalty at the ticket office next season.

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  5. Chipper Jones' illegitimate kid

    4 years ago

    They are willing to talk? We’ll, that’s awfully nice of them.

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  6. baseballpun

    4 years ago

    Joey Votto is a weird dude.

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    • Pete'sView

      4 years ago

      Maybe, but a terrific ballplayer.

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  7. Reggie Smith

    4 years ago

    Castillo to Red Sox for package including Casas and others. Then Red Sox sign Freddie Freeman. Votto moves to DH when Casas is ready. Red Sox get their left-handed bat in Freeman and a healthy Top rotation guy to go with Sale and Eovaldi.

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    • Pete'sView

      4 years ago

      Freddie Freeman will be a Brave for life.

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      • Reggie Smith

        4 years ago

        If that was a definite, he would be an FA now, would he?

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    • rocky7

      4 years ago

      LOL…LOL…LOL…

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    • Rsox

      4 years ago

      Bloom isn’t spending $100+ million on anyone, let alone a 1B/DH. And honestly Castillo isn’t worth giving up Casas for.

      I think most people are 99.999999% sure that Freeman will stay in Atlanta

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    • Sideline Redwine

      4 years ago

      Lol let me guess…Sox fan? Why stop there? Trade for Buehler and Cole, then coax Posey out of retirement; then trade vazquez for Judge. Done!

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    • Ronk325

      4 years ago

      Then you turn off The Show and return to reality

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  8. 2183281

    4 years ago

    I’m well aware posey retired. Having said that, Bart isn’t a Zaidi guy. Why would they have kept him in AAA so long? He was overmatched in 2020 both offensively and defensively. My speculation is that Zaidi is keeping him in AAA to keep his stock high and essentially hide him from MLB pitching. I agree he could be valuable for the giants going forward, but they also drafted Patrick Bailey in the first round the year after. Switch hitter, can catch and play the infield. That’s more of a Zaidi guy to me. I’m just spitballing.

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    • schellis 2

      4 years ago

      They kept him there because they had a all time great behind the plate that ate up a lot of playing time. Bart isn’t going to advance getting minimal MLB ABs. They did keep him in AAA to get playing time, and while it came out of right field for us that Posey retired, I’m sure that the Giants had a idea that it was coming. If Posey doesn’t retire they have a solid trade chip in Bart, if Posey retires they have a replacement that should be ready to go in Bart.

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  9. Rangers29

    4 years ago

    If I was looking to trade for any starter from the Reds it would be Tyler Mahle. Dude has quietly been really good for the past two seasons, and I believe he has more team control than Castillo.

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    • CubsWin108

      4 years ago

      yea earlist he could be a FA is 2024

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      • ksoze

        4 years ago

        Castillo / Mahle / Gray are all controllable through 23.

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  10. Nes

    4 years ago

    LFGM!

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  11. positively_broad_st

    4 years ago

    Contending teams with multiple top 100 talent:

    Seattle
    Boston
    San Diego
    NYY
    NYM
    Atlanta
    St.Louis
    Dodgers
    Giants
    Tampa

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    • stymeedone

      4 years ago

      You forgot Detroit. If you feel the Mets qualify, so does Motown.

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      • positively_broad_st

        4 years ago

        Contending that are likely to trade young players…

        Tigers aren’t dealing any of their young ones yet. Seattle may be willing to deal a couple away because they came so close to the playoffs. New York teams are a different animal…

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  12. Thesecondjamie

    4 years ago

    If you think your life can’t get worse, just remember you’re not a reds fan.

    If you are a reds fan, I’m so sorry

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    • MIKE PAUL

      4 years ago

      don’t be sorry for me, i like this team. it has some great players and is fun to watch. with a few breaks it will contend, save pity for pirates fans

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      • baseballpun

        4 years ago

        It could if they don’t tear it down. Which it seems like they might.

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    • ksoze

      4 years ago

      We are saddled with poor ownership. Would love him to sell

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    • Jockman

      4 years ago

      Reds only missed out because they sucked the last month and cards have a one in a life time run, pitching staff next year will be much better even with Miley and mayb Gray gone, Castillo, mahle, Greene,Lodolo, Gutierrez and several others

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  13. Milwaukee-2208

    4 years ago

    Not willing to try and explore a trade for Miley though?

    Joke organization

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    • MIKE PAUL

      4 years ago

      they were in a hurry to save the million dollar buy out. had he cleared waivers, they may have pulled back and looked for trade. with the CBA expiring, some team want to act quick before the lockout

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  14. CamFrost

    4 years ago

    Seems like an Astros type of move to make. Not a lot of money or years left with Castillo. Traded for Cole and Greinke with a couple years left on their deals when they got them as well. Feel like they’d rather deal for someone cheaper than go nuts in FA.

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    • Thesecondjamie

      4 years ago

      Would someone like Whitley be on the table? And would the reds even be interested after his injuries?

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      • CamFrost

        4 years ago

        I think the Astros would probably want to keep Whitley and hope he can regain some of his stock. His value is very low and I’m sure the injuries has teams low on him. The Astros have some solid prospects that could interest the Reds I’m sure.

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  15. JaxDan

    4 years ago

    Since Minnesota was able to get Toronto’s 16th and 68th rated prospects I would think that the Reds would want Jasson Dominguez plus more like Gil or Garcia. The Reds will be looking for an outfielder since their system is loaded with infielders and 3 of their top 5 prospects are SP.

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    • Reggie Smith

      4 years ago

      I know in the article Polishuk points out that 2 years of control is better than 1.5 years of control, so Castillo’s package should be bigger than Berrios’s. But I disagree:

      The package to obtain an Ace starter mid-season is more expensive. 1) You have another team eating half his contract, you don’t have to start paying him until Late July, August. 2) Teams are desperate to sure up a position of weakness, when they are hoping/heading to the playoffs. 3) You’ve had half-season to evaluate prospective player, theres a lot less risk in a trade 4) Many players have gotten injured, haven’t panned out, or are playing for teams heading to playoffs, so the talent pool is very shallow.

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  16. Stormintazz

    4 years ago

    Castillo is not available, until he is available.

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  17. kyzr

    4 years ago

    Padres

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  18. mrmackey

    4 years ago

    Wish the Yanks had sent them Torres last offseason.

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  19. kassem313

    4 years ago

    Plz Yankees get him! Been wanting him for 3 years

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  20. redhaze1

    4 years ago

    If the Reds trade Castillo it should be for a player that can contribute in right field immediately and two Top 100 pitchers. I wouldn’t mind a trade with the Dodgers for Cody Bellinger.

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    • solaris602

      4 years ago

      I wouldn’t hold my breath. The recent track record of the FO getting any kinda value back when trading a veteran is a crap shoot at best. Anyone remember who came back in the Aroldis Chapman trade?

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    • Reggie Smith

      4 years ago

      Too funny. A very good, but not elite pitcher, which the other team only has control for 2 years. You want all that. Good luck.

      Reply
    • Rsox

      4 years ago

      Castillo, if traded, will be traded for prospects. The Reds have Aquino/Naquin they can platoon in RF next season and will probably bring in an OF or two on minor league invites to spring training

      Reply
      • JaxDan

        4 years ago

        Aquino will be non tendered and Naquin will be in a platoon with Senzel as the roster is as of today. So the Reds will need a RF

        Reply
        • Armaments216

          4 years ago

          I don’t think Aquino’s arbitration eligible. So he probably won’t be non-tendered. But he’s out of options, and if the Reds are trying to compete he’ll likely get cut before opening day.

          Reply
  21. 5toolMVP

    4 years ago

    Mr. Krall, I have Perry Manasian on line 1…

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  22. ayrbhoy

    4 years ago

    Outside the obvious connections with the typical large market teams like NY, SF, LA etc Seattle has to be one of the clear favorites to acquire Castillo in a trade. Not only do the M’s have a top farm system full to the brim with elite talent but they also have a gluttony of BP pieces to sweeten the deal. I actually believe Seattle is so top loaded with talent they could acquire Castillo without giving up any of their Top 3-JRod, Kirby or Noelvi Marte. For Ex- MLB FO’s tried to pry away #9 Matt Brash and #10 Levi Stoudt this past trade deadline.

    In addition to the top prospects Seattle also has quite a few former top prospects with ML experience who can benefit greatly from a change of scenery. Justus Sheffield, Taylor Trammell, Justin Dunn, Jake Fraley to name a few. Seattle can deal one of 3 RP’s with recent experience at Closer- Steckenrider, Castillo or even Sewald. Then there are numerous middle/long relief RP’s each with Starting experience: Erik Swanson and Margevicius.

    The M’s can offer CIN a three tier package rich enough to not only pry Castillo away but if they wanted to, they could also solve one of the Reds problems- what to do with Moustakas and Eugenia Suarez. Personally I’d be over the moon with just Luis Castillo. Then Sign DeSclafani and promote one of Kirby/Brash…..bam! A rotation with depth for days. Sign Kris Bryant and Marcus Semien while you’re at it Jerry, Kikuchi is a FA you have plenty of ca$h!!!

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    • ksoze

      4 years ago

      Why would they trade their biggest trade chip, and not get a clubs top 1 or 2 guy?

      Reply
      • ayrbhoy

        4 years ago

        Ksoze- I know I’m guilty of long rambling posts but I just laid out the reason why they would hahaha. 1) Not one of the large market teams have better farm systems 2) CIN had a terrible BP- Seattle can help improve that pen for 2022+ the M’s have multiple RP’ers w closing experience all on multi year contracts. 3) In addition to elite prospects and high leverage RP’ers the Mariners have multiple former top 100 prospects who are log jammed at their positions: SP/OF.

        When you combine all three of those player pools you have a much more attractive package.

        Reply
        • Armaments216

          4 years ago

          Would be pretty funny to package former Reds prospect Taylor Trammel in a trade back to Cincinnati.

          Reply
  23. Matt 18

    4 years ago

    Padres send Frazier Campusano Myers and maybe Snell to the reds for Castillo and Winker and maybe another player

    Reply
    • Rsox

      4 years ago

      Why would the Reds trade Castillo for Snell? They let Miley go on waivers and he gets paid less than Snell does

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      • Matt 18

        4 years ago

        I threw Snell in as an idea doesn’t need to be him could be any pitcher, if the Reds are looking to attach Castillo to someone for a salary dump, Moustakas could be an idea not sure who else the Padres would send in a trade. I’m not sure who they’d be willing to give up in proposals

        Reply
        • Rsox

          4 years ago

          Your trade idea has the Reds taking on salary when they are clearly dumping salary so none of it really works. Unfortunately unless the Padres are willing to part with Gore there is not enough left in the Padres cupboards to get a deal done

          Reply
    • Sideline Redwine

      4 years ago

      Shocked, a pads fan trying to dump Myers and Frazier. Maybe the Reds can throw in Mahle and Stephenson for you too? Lol.

      Reply
      • Matt 18

        4 years ago

        Look man it was an idea you don’t need to be a dick if you disagree

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  24. msqboxer

    4 years ago

    Reds have a few arms that will be coming up in 2022, but lack position players. I’d give the CWS a call and see if Vaughn along with any one of the following would close a deal, (Sheets/Cespedes or Burger) Vaughn would plug right in LF and be a RH bat until he could take over 1B.

    Reply
  25. redsorbust

    4 years ago

    Hey there. Votto has no trade clause. Votto has said many times for years now
    he is not going anywhere.

    Reply
  26. redsorbust

    4 years ago

    Hey all. A million trade possibilities IF he is even going to be traded. Starting pitchers like Castillo under control for two more years are prime real estate. If the Reds try and trade him I would guess from everything that is going on it would be to try and cut payroll. They would attach Moustakas and get back an above average OF or RP. Deep pocket team could afford to take on Moustakas contract and if they need a SP to put them over the top to the playoffs and beyond then that’s what might happen. With all that money saved hopefully we can put it towards pressing needs.

    Reply
  27. ksoze

    4 years ago

    Reds and Padres need to talk.

    Reply
    • JaxDan

      4 years ago

      2 of 3 between Hassell, Gore or Wood for Castillo

      Reply
  28. Monkey’s Uncle

    4 years ago

    As the Reds possibly begin a fire sale, the Pirates dream longingly of fourth place.

    Reply
  29. JoeBrady

    4 years ago

    Better late than never, but they should’ve done this last off-season.

    Reply
    • ksoze

      4 years ago

      They couldn’t, the return for Castillo was more than teams were willing to give up. Now with 2 years of control, there will be more fits

      Reply
  30. Lyman Bostock

    4 years ago

    He seems to have some Chris Archer to him. Amazing stuff, goes on ace quality runs. But for some reason always falls apart and falls short of his potential. At 28/29 years old, it seems safe to to think that this is what he is.

    Reply
  31. butch779988

    4 years ago

    Cue the stupid trade recommendations…

    Reply
  32. LaFlamaBlanca

    4 years ago

    Yeaaaa Reds can just keep him, why would teams do Cincinnati any favors for any of their players?

    Reply
  33. urnuts

    4 years ago

    Angels and Reds have a reason history making trades and eating salary. To the Angels with a contract for Adell and another prospect .

    Angels will need to sign at least one top SP plus trade for one.

    Reply
    • JaxDan

      4 years ago

      Per Jon Morosi the Angels are looking at getting 2 impact SP, I would say either Adell or Marsh along with Reid Detmers.

      Reply
  34. Tiger22matt

    4 years ago

    Gotta love all the you can have one of our 50 through 100 prospects for a guy who will be a teams 2 or 3 starter.

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