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Pitching Notes: Castillo, Reds, Anibal, Red Sox, Cora

By Mark Polishuk | January 17, 2021 at 9:05pm CDT

Much of the Reds’ offseason has been focused around moving players (i.e. trading Raisel Iglesias, non-tendering Archie Bradley) rather than adding, and eyebrows were raised last month when it was reported that Luis Castillo’s name was coming up in trade talks.  There wasn’t any indication that those talks were serious, however, and Reds VP/general manager Nick Krall issued a firm denial on the subject to reporters (including MLB.com’s Mark Sheldon).  According to Krall, speculation about a Castillo trade is “completely false. We intend to have [Castillo] as a member of our rotation for 2021.”

Castillo and the Reds recently agreed to an arbitration-avoiding $4.2MM contract for 2021, and the right-hander is still under team control through 2023 thanks to two more years of arbitration eligibility.  Between this affordability, the three years of control, and Castillo’s front-of-the-rotation ability, there isn’t really any pressing reason for Cincinnati to move Castillo.  Since the Reds seems to be focusing on cutting payroll this winter, an argument could be made that Castillo could be attached to a deal that would get a bigger contract (i.e. Mike Moustakas, Nick Castellanos) off the books, but that would seem like an awfully extreme move.  One would imagine Castillo wouldn’t be traded unless the Reds were reversing course entirely and now looking to rebuild.

More pitching notes from around the league…

  • Julio Teheran’s showcase on Tuesday will include another Mato Sports Management client, as MLB Network’s Jon Heyman (Twitter link) reports that Anibal Sanchez will also be throwing for scouts.  Like Teheran, Sanchez is looking to rebound from a rough 2020 season, as Sanchez posted a 6.62 ERA over 53 innings for the Nationals last year.  The Phillies were recently linked to Sanchez, but it has been an otherwise quiet winter for news about the 36-year-old.  Considering Sanchez was still delivering solid results as recently as 2019 (for the World Series champion Nats, no less), his market could start to pick up if scouts like what they see on Tuesday.  The Red Sox will have scouts on hand to see Sanchez and Teheran, MassLive.com’s Chris Cotillo tweets.
  • Speaking of the Red Sox, manager Alex Cora noted that his team is still exploring more rotation additions.  “I’m going to keep saying it all the way until April 1 [Opening Day], this puzzle is not completed.  We have to be patient,” Cora said in an interview on MLB Network Radio on SiriusXM (audio link).  That being said, Cora is also pleased with the current group of hurlers in Boston’s organization, saying that the Sox have more pitching depth now than they had in either the 2019 or 2020 seasons.  “Little by little, the front office did a good job during the season last year and [in] the offseason to add some quality arms, some intriguing arms,” Cora said.
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  1. Noel1982

    1 year ago

    Of course Castillo will be a red no team potentially interested has the kind of quality prospect outside their top 5 that could lead a deal for him and nobody has been trading top 5 prospects since the pandemic

    Reply
    • chazz

      1 year ago

      Padres moved Patiño just a couple weeks ago for a cost controlled ace

      Reply
      • bush1

        1 year ago

        Patino is a good prospect, but not a great one. He’s got serious health concerns, and being able to make it as a starter concerns. He’s the type of prospect all teams would deal for a cheap controlled good starter if they’re in win now mode. I doubt a team would give up the true blue chippers for Castillo.

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        • Padres458

          1 year ago

          Hes a top 15 prospect. What are you talking about.

        • chazz

          1 year ago

          FWIW as a Dodgers fan watching a decent amount of Padres games, Patino has always looked to me like he profiles as a reliever. Stuff is electric but still can’t believe the Rays moved Snell for him. We’ll see!

        • RemovePitcherWinsFromTheRecordBooks

          1 year ago

          Patiño is ranked #23 on the leaguewide top 100 list.and was #3 in the Padres’ system. And how does he have health concerns? He hasn’t spent any time on the IL yet.

        • dan55

          1 year ago

          Patino has never had any health concerns in his career, and he is a bonafide top-25 prospect in all of baseball. The only issues with Patino are that he is small for a starting pitcher, he still needs a year or two to develop, and that some scouts believe he profiles more as a reliever than a starter. He has electric stuff.

          FWIW, I wish that the Padres would’ve sent the Snell package to Cincinnati in order to get Castillo, but I don’t know if the Reds would have accepted the package.

        • RemovePitcherWinsFromTheRecordBooks

          1 year ago

          They wouldn’t have. Castillo is better and cheaper than Snell, albeit controlled just as long.

        • earmbrister

          1 year ago

          Bush, what in the world are you talking about? Of course other teams would give up blue chip PROSPECTS for Castillo. Prospects are far from a sure thing. Question is, why would Cincinnati trade Castillo for prospects? Castillo is a proven Top of the rotation starter. They would have to be full in on a rebuild, which they’re not.

        • larry48

          1 year ago

          No Patino is not in the top 25 except in Fair’s mind.

        • bush1

          1 year ago

          We’ll see. I don’t think they will give up that type of a package

        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          @Larry

          #18 & #15 by BA & BP. Why do you people make claims that can easily be proven false?

        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          I wish that the Padres would’ve sent the Snell package to Cincinnati in order to get Castillo
          ==========================================================
          I asked at the time, where were the Reds in all this. I like Castillo better, but that was a heck of a package for Snell. Unfortunately for Reds fans, I don’t think the Reds FO knows which direction they are going. They were only 2 games above .500, and lost Bauer, Iglesias, and Bradley.

        • Hudson6

          1 year ago

          Patino is #23 according to mlb.com.

    • vtadave

      1 year ago

      Dodgers would have interest in a deal starting with Ruiz

      Reply
      • chazz

        1 year ago

        Agree the dodgers should be in on one of Gray or Castillo if they can be moved

        Reply
        • Hudson6

          1 year ago

          Any team aiming for the World Series should be in on him.

    • crumpy24

      1 year ago

      If I were to trade him to the Yankees I would need Gleyber Torres in the deal

      Reply
      • Yankee Clipper

        1 year ago

        I’ve always advocated to keep Gleyber, but, for Castillo, I think it’s worth consideration. Especially with the FA class of SS coming in ‘22. Obviously, Yankees need a contingency for short this year (Didi, Simmons, Etc), if they were to make such a move.

        Reply
        • Ducky Buckin Fent

          1 year ago

          I see the temptation, @Clipper.

          But I don’t care for plugging one hole by creating another. Which is why I would trade Dominguez as the certerpiece of a deal.

          A quick look at BTV –
          Jasson Dominguez: 30.5 MM
          Luis Castillo: 114.8

          Look, even if you don’t buy into BTV completely Dominguez is merely a *starting* point. But Castillo has 3 years of control left (fits the current core’s timeline) & is a viable co-ace.

          The prospect cost to acquire him would hurt. I’d pay it though. But I’m a spender not a hugger.

        • hyraxwithaflamethrower

          1 year ago

          @Ducky, thank you for being reasonable. You are a credit to the Yankees fanbase.

        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          Thank Ducky, for your sanity. There is no 17 year old in the history of the world, that is worth Castillo. The RS just signed a 17 y.o. that is supposed to be an uber-athlete.

          But it will be three years before I even start to discuss him.

        • Ducky Buckin Fent

          1 year ago

          @hyrax –
          Not always. But, thanks.

          I’ve been posting here since last summer. I understand why the Yankees fan base has a questionnable rep.
          I think it’s just numbers, though.

          Every fan base has fans that…lack nuance, shall we say. But simply due to the fact that the Yankees have more fans than other teams we can appear to yaw more heavily in that direction.
          So I get it, man.

        • Cap & Crunch

          1 year ago

          This really isnt a Yankee thing….

          This is a spectrum issue and as a society the polar ends seem more appealing these days – Prospect hoarders have been around for a long time just today they have conveniently found power in numbers to speak out louder-

          Also, playing “Not to lose” has become very en vogue the last couple years. This probably has to do with FO job security way far away from these boards but has somehow found its way into here

          @Duck- Comforting your willing to shove some chips in the middle knowing they might not come back. Its becoming a rare angle these days

          Look at the Harden trade for example- 95% of the press is going after everything that can wrong when really I mean cmon the teams going for it, let um nd enjoy the show

    • breggs

      1 year ago

      Random but would you make this trade I’d you were the Reds and Mets… Matz, Jd Davis, Familia and a prospect for Nick Castellanos, and Castillo. Would you do it if you were the Reds?

      Reply
      • ExileInLA

        1 year ago

        No way. Dumping Nick C’s $$ (minus the $19.5mm that the 3 Mets get) isn’t worth it.

        Reply
      • mmsnorby

        1 year ago

        Hell no. Familia is dead money, Matz is a bad pitcher, and JD Davis is basically just Castellanos but cheaper. Unless that prospect is Wander Franco, hard pass.

        Reply
      • Rsox

        1 year ago

        The mets are effectually giving up garbage in that deal. While they would be taking Castellanos’ salary back its almost like gifting Castillo to them

        Reply
      • Ketch

        1 year ago

        Not even at gunpoint

        Reply
      • jim stem

        1 year ago

        @mmsnorby. I’m a lifelong Mets fan and I don’t think your offer benefits the Reds.

        Nobody touches Matz’ contract with his recent downward spiral.

        No team cutting payroll takes on Familia.

        JD Davis in a payroll dump for Suarez makes more sense for the Reds than the Mets. Davis has more upside ($ value) than Suarez who just might be approaching the downslope of his career.

        Castellanos is better served moving him away from the NL and the Mets don’t need another below average outfield defender.

        Now if you want to talk Sonny Gray, Senzel and a catcher to the Mets for Matz, Nido, a high A prospect and cash, maybe.

        Reply
        • titanic struggle

          1 year ago

          To begin with, yes Suarez had an off year but was also coming off off a shoulder surgery from an accident at his home late last off-season, but is hardly on any download. Secondly, no way the Reds send Senseless, Gray, a catcher and even an A prospect for that list of names. Just another fan of a NY team that highly overvalued their players.

      • Red_Line_9

        1 year ago

        No.

        Reply
    • MillvilleMeteor

      1 year ago

      I’m sure if the Angels offer up Jo Adell and David Fletcher or Reid Detmers, the Reds will be listening

      Reply
      • Rsox

        1 year ago

        What is with all of the posts including David Fletcher in a trade for elite players. Fletcher was never considered an elite prospect by any means, never ranking higher than 9th on the Angels top 30 and that was in a year that included Alex Meyer, Brooks Pounder, and Manny Banuelos in their top 20. Fletcher is a nice player but he is not bringing back a player of Castillo’s caliber

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        • hyraxwithaflamethrower

          1 year ago

          It’s meaningless to discuss whether a player with three years of experience was ever a top prospect. He was worth 4.5 WAR in 2019 and on pace for about 6 WAR last year. That’s plenty valuable, whether he was ever a top prospect or not. I don’t believe that Fletcher is enough for Castillo straight up, but I do believe he’d be a decent headliner.

          As for Adell, while I still think he’ll be good, OF is not the Reds’ need. Detmers is certainly intriguing, but he’s yet to play a minor league game. Unless the package has a significant amount of quantity, I’m not sure he’s enough to be a headliner.

        • Cap & Crunch

          1 year ago

          Of has been a need for Cincy for 10 years running

    • RemovePitcherWinsFromTheRecordBooks

      1 year ago

      Padres have been trading top 5 prospects since the pandemic

      Reply
      • bencole

        1 year ago

        And they still have top 5 prospects…

        Reply
  2. driftcat28

    1 year ago

    If I’m a GM I would be more than willing to have Castillo as an “attachment” with Castellanos. I think his 2020 was a fluke, probably due to the pandemic and strange season. Give me Casty in a trade with his full contract if it includes Castillo and that’s a steal

    Reply
    • Mrtwotone

      1 year ago

      Same! Track record of Nick is on his side

      Reply
      • Ma4170

        1 year ago

        The power numbers were there, but the average and OBP took a major dip, and that was due to a BABIP 70 points lower than his career norm.. he had the 9th lowest soft contact % in MLB so was making hard contact.. look for a big bounce back

        Reply
  3. Rsox

    1 year ago

    I would be ok with giving Sanchez a chance but please no to Teheran. We could just skip his starts and put the ball on a tee and get the same results

    Reply
  4. cheeryvladdy

    1 year ago

    Fun Fact: Ben-Nicholson Smith used to write for MLBTR.

    Reply
    • Red_Line_9

      1 year ago

      …and LOVED inserting himself into his articles.

      Reply
  5. Ducky Buckin Fent

    1 year ago

    My takeaways as a Yankee fan

    – the dream of Castillo withers (yes. I would’ve included Dominguez)

    – Yanks looking for another starter. Teheran & Sanchez are probably on their radar. Guess I’ll be keeping track of how their workout goes

    – They still let Cora speak in public?

    Reply
    • Balboni

      1 year ago

      I think if there was a hypothetical for Castillo it would start with Garcia plus lower talent Gil, maybe Schmidt

      Reply
    • Bruin1012

      1 year ago

      It would Garcia plus Dominguez probably also Frazier at a minimum to get Castillo in Pinstripes.

      Reply
      • Bruin1012

        1 year ago

        “Take”

        Reply
      • bencole

        1 year ago

        The guy that thinks it will take *Garcia + Dominguez + Frazier… is the epitome of stupid, and I don’t like the Yankees. The Reds would crap their pants with happiness if they thought they could get Dominguez plus a lottery ticket.

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        • Bruin1012

          1 year ago

          So you think a guy who hasn’t even played one big league game and lottery ticket will get you Castillo? Please just go play with your legos in the corner and let the adults talk your up way past your bedtime.

        • iverbure

          1 year ago

          It’s no wonder you people are constantly angry at teams when they sell their best players for WAY less of a return. You guys act like prospects are worth basically nothing when in reality teams value them higher than ever. The reds would absolutely deal Castillo for Dominguez straight up today.

          Instead of getting mad every time a gerrit cole or Yu Darvish or Justin verlander is sold for way less than what you think they’re worth, breathe look back at other recent trades and look at yourself in the mirror and say “ I don’t know the value of players better than GMs” .

          That way you can get back to reality.

        • hyraxwithaflamethrower

          1 year ago

          @bencole, no, they wouldn’t. Look at the package it required to get Snell. Snell has a little more upside, but the package for Snell was way better than just Dominguez, so while teams value prospects, they still value proven commodities on team-friendly deals more. This is a classic case of Yankees fans thinking that their #1 prospect is by default the league’s #1 and that the rankings of other Yankees prospects ought to be raised 50 spots.

          And of course, if Dominguez is traded as *part* of a package for a TOR starter, Yankees fans will immediately come on here saying how he still has holes in his game, how he hasn’t played a single game stateside yet, and how great the steal is they got from Cincinnati or whomever else.

        • bencole

          1 year ago

          Yeah I’m not a Yankees fan. And I think Doninguez’s trade value is equal to or potentially exceeds Patino’s because of the attrition/success rate of pitchers vs hitters. You don’t see packages like the one above the yen around, abs frankly, Snell is worth more than Castillo.

      • hyraxwithaflamethrower

        1 year ago

        @Bruin1012, while I agree that Dominguez would likely be included, I don’t think it takes both Garcia and Frazier. I’m not even convinced it takes one of them. Dominguez, Schmidt, and a lottery ticket or two probably gets it done.

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        • Bruin1012

          1 year ago

          The issue that you have in trading a guy like Castillo is that he is so valuable. He has three years of control left very cheap control. He is high strikeout and very high groundball pitcher and he has done it in above average stadium to hit in. This isn’t a guy you have to wish on he has done it at the big league level. The Yankees would absolutely have to give up more then a guy that has never suited up in big league game. You also have to remember he is so cheap right now he is easily a top 5% of all assets in baseball. I stand by my prediction that it would take Dominguez, Garcia, and Frazier or a similar return to pry Castillo away from Cinci.

        • Bruin1012

          1 year ago

          Sadly we will never know because the Reds aren’t trading Castillo.

        • bencole

          1 year ago

          When you trade for prospects, that’s what you do. Look at the number of prospect packages that are that big in recent trades. Snell was pretty sizable, but returns that size generally don’t happen. And I don’t like the Yankees at all.

  6. carrigansghost

    1 year ago

    Worst phrase a “journalist” can use, “With that being said”.

    Reply
    • mlbnyyfan

      1 year ago

      OMG stop Yankees not including Gleyber or Jasson for Castillo. If Dodgers didn’t have to include Lux or May for Mookie why do Yankees get fleeced by having to include Gleyber

      Reply
      • vtadave

        1 year ago

        Probably because the Dodgers included Verdugo for a guy with one year of team control and Castillo has three years of team control.

        Reply
        • BobGibsonFan

          1 year ago

          And Castillo isn’t a salary dump. The reds arent looking for someone to take him off their hands. They are looking for quality prospects if someone was willing to pay the price. All those other trades were getting rid of a high cost player.

        • Yankee Clipper

          1 year ago

          Bob is correct. Castillo is not a long-term, high-cost commitment (yet). He’s a golden ticket for them right now, but they need to seriously evaluate market returns if they want prospects for him (think Darvish, Lindor, Cleav).

      • Dorothy_Mantooth

        1 year ago

        The Red Sox attached half of Price’s 3 year, $96M contract to the deal and were dealing a player with one year of control left. They were still able to get 2 Top 50 MLB prospects in Verdugo & Downs. Verdugo was not technically a prospect anymore but he was a Top 20 prospect before he was called up by LA.

        To get 3 years of Castillo, it would absolutely cost the Yankees Jasson + a major league ready arm like Gil. Otherwise, there’s no reason for Cincy to trade him. The Reds would need to be blown out of the water to trade him and that package might do it. They probably wouldn’t want Gleyber anyways given his current arbitration status and big raises due to him the next 2 years. They rather have a TOR pitcher in year 1 of arbitration than a Top 8 SS in arbitration.

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        • Yankee Clipper

          1 year ago

          Too much, Dorothy. They MAY ask for Dominguez but based on the market and what has actually occurred they certainly have the prospects to construct a deal without him. And they’re not trading away any of their IF either IMO. This is a deal that could easily be built around Schmidt/Garcia.

          Again, if anyone argues against that logic, simply look at the market’s recent trades. Teams’ valuation on prospects is incredibly high, and they are willing to pay a premium for them as shown in the past two months.

        • Hudson6

          1 year ago

          The closest comparable player traded this off-season is Snell. Both have ACE quality upside and 3 years of control.

          Snell required the #23 prospect in baseball according to mlb.com, along with other quality prospects. Yet somehow Dominguez, the #48 prospect, is too much based on current market value?

      • alproof

        1 year ago

        The Yankees can do whatever they want, especially with that lifelong Yankee fan commissioner.

        Reply
      • mmsnorby

        1 year ago

        Typically yankees fan, comparing apples to oranges.

        Reply
      • Balboni

        1 year ago

        Why would the reds even trade a cost controlled potential ace for a cost controlled short stop, aces are way more valuable. And Dominguez hasn’t even had a professional at bat so far he’s all hype

        Reply
        • Tatsumaki

          1 year ago

          Sad times to be a Yankees fan went from World Series favorites in 2020 to riding with the corpse of kluber and “foreign substance” Cole. Then this offseason they decided to overpay djl 6/90 million with stanton still on a terrible deal the next decade with judge and torres needing needing new deals shortly. Cashmen gets a lot of props although he hasn’t done much outside of spending dollars. Yikes

        • hyraxwithaflamethrower

          1 year ago

          @Tatsumaki, I have a strong dislike for the Yankees (though that’s getting increasingly more due to their fans than the team itself), but be real. The Kluber comment is fair enough, even though he could still have enough in the tank to be a solid #3 and it’s just a one-year deal. From player surveys and reports, some 3/4 of pitchers could be using foreign substances, so odds are that your team as a few guilty parties as well. And the DJLM deal was a steal. They got 6 years of him for 4 years’ worth of pay.

  7. Moneyballer

    1 year ago

    Very interesting. It might be a reds situation where Castillo is not entirely off the table for a trade but only a great offer will work. I think he may be a deadline candidate if the reds are out of it early.

    Reply
  8. soxfan1

    1 year ago

    Castillo and Moose (+$$$) for Eovaldi and Jeter Downs who says no ?

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    • vtadave

      1 year ago

      The Reds

      Reply
      • ksoze

        1 year ago

        LOL, you got there 1st

        Reply
    • Dorothy_Mantooth

      1 year ago

      The Reds just hang up the phone, laughing. I don’t think Boston has what it takes to get Castillo, but if they do, Eovaldi and his $17M/yr would never be part of it. It would have to be more like: Jeter Downs, Tanner Houck & Bryan Mata for Castillo & Moose. I’m not sure that’s even enough to get him even with Moose attached. It could cost Dalbec or Casas as well.

      Reply
      • JoeBrady

        1 year ago

        He is certainly a good fit for the RS. I’m guessing that is about $22M of the maybe $35M we have to spend. We could get at least one more good RP with the leftover money.

        Reply
      • YourDreamGM

        1 year ago

        Too many people are giving the reds too much credit. Look at their most expensive players contracts and how they traded top prospects for old expensive declining players. Then promote the gm who did that to president. They non tendered a guy who got paid more as a free agent then it would have taken to keep him. Don’t underestimate the reds. They are capable of anything.

        Reply
    • JoeBrady

      1 year ago

      Castillo & Moose for Downs & Benni. Unless another team has $54M that they don’t mind spending, and a slot for Moose to play, that would be at least a conversation starter.

      Reply
      • Rsox

        1 year ago

        No it wouldn’t. Reds aren’t interested in Outfielders when they have Castellanos, Winker, Senzel, Akiyama, and Aquino on the ML roster already. And Moustakas is not a 2B, even the Reds know that and its why they want to move him or Suarez. As Red Sox fan i would love Castillo in the rotation but Benintendi and Downs (whom the Reds have already traded away once) doesn’t get it done, even if Bloom were willing to pay every remaining cent on Moustakas contract (he’s not)

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      • Red_Line_9

        1 year ago

        Reds had Downs..be doesnt project well…I dont like this one at all..
        Wouldnt start a conversation with me. Castillo is probably even better in a deal than Snell was.

        Reply
  9. Dorothy_Mantooth

    1 year ago

    I do think the Reds would consider dealing Castillo to the Dodgers but the package would have to be massive. Something like: Castillo & Moustakis for Gavin Lux, Josiah Gray & another established pitcher like Gonsolin. I highly doubt LA would give up that much to get him.

    Reply
    • l9ydodger

      1 year ago

      Are you kidding? What are you smoking?
      That doesn’t even deserve any further comment!

      Reply
    • Cap & Crunch

      1 year ago

      Castillo +Cast would cost Lux Ruiz White and another 15-25th ranked prospect they like. they would probably kick in 2-3 mill a yr as well

      I dont think Dodgers entertain that deal tho . I could see that for Jose Ramirez. but a deal taking in dead (ish) money I think they shy away from w guys like Kershaw/Seager needing the ledgers attention very soon

      Dodgers have a ton of RH pitchers comin up the pipes as well, Castillos awesome but I think in any trade with Cincy Suarez would be the Dodgers main concern at a lower prospect cost

      If it was just something as low as Ruiz Rios White +lottery for Suarez it would be smart to look into-

      Cincy should never deal with LAD again tho, enoughs enough with touching that stove

      Reply
  10. VonPurpleHayes

    1 year ago

    I’d like the Phillies to take a shot on Julio Teheran.

    Reply
  11. SwingtheFNbat

    1 year ago

    I never foreseen the Reds trading Castillo. He’s inexpensive and they could get close to the same package next year if they wanted. Grey, is another story.

    Reply
    • Dorothy_Mantooth

      1 year ago

      Sonny Gray is a legitimate #2 SP for most teams and his $10M/yr. salary is a steal for Cincy right now. Those guys usually cost $18-$20M per year. Cincy only trades Sonny Gray for a huge return as well. Not as big of a return they’d want for Castillo, but they have no need to move Gray at that cost and will hold out for a huge return before they deal him.

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      • earmbrister

        1 year ago

        Dorothy you are spot on.

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      • SwingtheFNbat

        1 year ago

        Well now, u have them both down for huge returns, “but not as much for Grey”. So that wouldn’t classify as a huge return now would it? I’d go with a good return, and a huge return, based on age, money, and 1 less year of controll.

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  12. Jaysfan12

    1 year ago

    I really wish the Jays would persue this hard. Castillo and take Moustakas as well. Solves an infield issue and a top starter to compliment Ryu. Also cheap….so gives Toronto room to make signings. Would probably have to include Lourdes, Kay, Maonah, and Woods richardson.

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    • dman07

      1 year ago

      Me too! Jays won’t overpay for him though…

      Reply
    • casey21

      1 year ago

      How about Groshans, Martin, and Moreno? The Reds are loaded with pitching prospects already. Antone, Lodolo, Greene, Richardson, and Santillan.

      Reply
      • BlueJaysMania

        1 year ago

        Martin is near untouchable

        Reply
        • iverbure

          1 year ago

          They should just ask what it will take to get Moose. It’s gotta be practically nothing. They need to start leveraging the cash they can spend and taking bad money on. If they’re willing to take on all the money then the reds gotta give up something with him. They should have been in on Lindor more.

        • WereAllJustGuestsHere

          1 year ago

          Moose and Akiyama for Grichuk and Roark. Probably not far off.

        • Rsox

          1 year ago

          Blue Jays need starting pitching so unlikely they trade Roark for a 3B and an OF

        • WereAllJustGuestsHere

          1 year ago

          As it stands Roark is barely in the rotation. They’d absolutely unload him. They can sign a Quintana or Richards or someone else for under $12-mil that Roark is getting.

  13. bradthebluefish

    1 year ago

    Still can’t believe the Red Sox re-hired Alex Cheating Cora.

    Reply
    • portlandrays

      1 year ago

      Because they want to cheat again as they did twice already

      Reply
  14. xpensivewinos

    1 year ago

    Cora must have taken up mind-altering chemicals during his year off…….

    Reply
    • solaris602

      1 year ago

      Yeah, as I’m reading his comments I’m thinking, “Mr Cora, can you specifically run down the rotation and the depth pieces behind them, and make us see what you’re seeing?”

      Reply
  15. joeblack

    1 year ago

    Call me crazy, I don’t see it… Castillo is good, not great. To me… a #4 maybe #3 starter. Now, he is young and look like he has some future.

    Reply
    • YourDreamGM

      1 year ago

      What’s up crazy

      Reply
      • earmbrister

        1 year ago

        Mote like bat crap crazy

        Reply
    • hyraxwithaflamethrower

      1 year ago

      Have you looked at Castillo’s stats at all? Career ERA+ of 124, with 3 of his 4 years being 137 or better. He doesn’t give up many HRs, has a strong career WHIP of 1.168 and his FIP and ERA have fallen two consecutive years. He is probably not the ace of a WS contender – I’ll agree with that – but he’s a strong #2 on most playoff teams.

      Reply
  16. ksoze

    1 year ago

    I think the Rays would be the perfect team. Both teams have what the other is lacking.

    Rays get: Castillo
    Reds get: McKay / Adames

    I never used a trade calculator, but if you had to balance it out with lesser prospects, that would be fine, but these should be the main pieces.

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    • Red_Line_9

      1 year ago

      I’ve been a fan of the Rays trying to add a younger controlled arm…he’s cheaper than Snell. Surprised they didn’t try to do a 3 way with SD. To me it seems Castillo really isnt available. I dont get the Reds incentive to deal him.

      Reply
  17. Cap & Crunch

    1 year ago

    By agreeing to take on Wade Mileys 2/18 left I think Adell would get you 90% there for a Castillo/Wade ~ Adell+ swap

    Maybe add Pena and a 8~14 prospect…..

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    • bot

      1 year ago

      If I’m the angels – id be offering up Adell for Castillo in a 1/2 a heartbeat. Adell hit the scene hard in that short season after being drafted and hadn’t lived up to hype since.

      Adell vera yan for Castillo and castellanos. Reds pay 10 mil of castellanos 21 salary to help angels w cap crunch

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      • Cap & Crunch

        1 year ago

        I dont think they would want Cast contact thats why I subbed Miley….still underwater contract that gives Cincy relief offloading but at least the Angels could use him as an Sp5 and get some inns outta him

        Tough trading 2 Sps from your rotation at once so this is all assuming a pure money dump from Cincy-

        Good chance they are stuck with Votto Moose Cast for the next 3 yrs-

        Gray Castillo Suarez Tucker Shogo Miley can all be shopped tho in various packages depending on the angle they want to go

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  18. ratedrdude

    1 year ago

    I know Chaim Bloom has been bargain hunting this far in the off-season by making millions of the Red Sox Nation very frustrated but he can redeem himself by signing either Joc Pederson or Marcell Ozuna.. Then sign Brad Hand & Alex Colomé then finally sign Masahiro Tanaka or if they are trading Benintendi center a package around him for the Oakland A’s A.J. Puk.. Puk has 6 year’s of control left & he’s already been compared to a young Randy Johnson.. The Redsox could definitely put a package together to acquire A.J. Puk !!!

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    • GASoxFan

      1 year ago

      First off, if Boston signs an OF it should be a true CF. Ozuna is defensively challenged, not what Boston needs ignoring the fact that he wants more years and money than is prudent for Boston to spend given needs elsewhere.

      Joc is yet another lefty bat. The whole (misguided) reason bloom grabbed renfroe over jbj was to break up the lefty logjam in the outfield. Joc brings that problem back again.

      Tanaka would be a poor move for Boston as well. Hes been playing with fire since 2014 pitching with a partially torn UCL, and you have to figure at some point time and age will catch up with him on that one. He’s going into his age 33 season, and isn’t going to want a 1-2 yr deal. It would be a bad investment. His results also rely upon a superior defense in NY compared to what Boston currently has with nobody of import outside Bogey on the infield… FIP pegs him a full half run or more higher than he usually logs in era.

      Finally, As aren’t trading Puk for 2 years of Benny hoping he rebounds. Just not happening. Theyll sign a FA for equal money who has given equal or better production. And given bloom’s miserly ways being willing to field a subpar product to try to get draft position and deplete a rough bullpen to get prospects in the system… well, he’s not going to empty talent out for puk.

      Reply
    • Rsox

      1 year ago

      Benintendi doesn’t get you Puk

      Reply
      • bot

        1 year ago

        Who’s the A’s most likely candidate to replace hendriks. Hader is a better comp too- comparing him to the Big Unit should cost media personality his credentials

        Reply
  19. leftcoast11 - pyramidsuccess

    1 year ago

    Sonny Gray has Saberhagen disease.Ask the Bronx Bombers or Money Ball Inc.Castillo is very talented,he competed like a beast when the Reds were down 1 in the playoffs last yr.Both would look fantastic in an Angel uniform.Brandon Marsh,Johmai Jones,Chris Rodriguez,Oliver Ortega & Jose Alberto Rivera.Angels are stockpiled with pitching numbers with limited minor league levels.

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  20. WereAllJustGuestsHere

    1 year ago

    Either the Yanks are truly interested in Castillo, or the rumor is an attempt to drive up the price for a rival AL East team not named Baltimore looking to acquire Castillo. Might be the Jays, could be Boston.

    If the Jays decided to go after Gray instead that’s fine. Gray and Moose brings down the price of prospects considerably. And a move like this would improve the the Jays. Moose batting 7th or 8th in that lineup makes it pretty deep.

    Reply
  21. stymeedone

    1 year ago

    The Reds GM states that Castillo is not being traded, and every comment is a trade proposal for Castillo? Evidently, reading comprehension is weak with this group.

    Reply
    • bot

      1 year ago

      Actually it says he’ll never be traded for a salary dump move that would include moose or castellanos. Which makes nearly every proposal on this thread obsolete.

      Reply
    • hyraxwithaflamethrower

      1 year ago

      Yes, because no GM has ever said a player won’t be traded and then traded them. Every player, *every last player*, is available for the right package. In my mind, including contract, Acuna is the most valuable player in the league. But if the Rays offered their top 10 prospects, including Franco, for Acuna, the Braves would put him on the plane with a giant bow on his head. What the GM is really saying is Castillo won’t be cheap, nor should he be.

      Reply
      • JoeBrady

        1 year ago

        Spot on correct, imo.

        The joke around NY, way back when, is that the NYM GM would answer every call with “Kevin Mitchell is not on the block and will not be traded. And if you even mention his name, I am hanging up. But just for fun, what did you have in mind?”

        Reply
    • JoeBrady

      1 year ago

      “eyebrows were raised last month when it was reported that Luis Castillo’s name was coming up in trade talks.”

      Sty-The article specifically mentions Castillo, and that line says ‘it was reported’. Further, the ‘R’ in MLB Rumors, stands for ‘Rumors’. If you don’t like reading about or discussing ‘rumors’, then the site you should be reading is ‘stuff that has already happened’.

      Reply
    • Red_Line_9

      1 year ago

      I agree…but it’s a trade rumor site…its always been this way. That’s it’s own form of comprehension weakness.

      Reply

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