4:49 pm: Frazier has been placed on release waivers, but he has not yet cleared, tweets MLBTR’s Steve Adams. The waiver period expires tomorrow, so it remains possible another team grabs Frazier off the wire. If he passes through unclaimed, he’ll hit free agency.
4:05 pm: New York announced they’ve released both Frazier and Rougned Odor, who was also designated for assignment last week. Odor hit .202/.286/.379 across 361 plate appearances with the Yankees this past season. The Rangers will remain on the hook for almost all of his $12.33MM salary for 2022, per the terms of the teams’ April trade.
2:51 pm: The Yankees have released outfielder Clint Frazier following last week’s DFA, tweets MLB Network’s Jon Heyman.
The 2021 season proved to be a brutal one for Frazier, a former first-round pick and top prospect whom the Yankees acquired from Cleveland as part of their return for lefty Andrew Miller. Frazier looked like a breakout candidate from 2019-20 when he posted a combined .267/.347/.497 batting line with 20 homers, 20 doubles and a triple in 465 plate appearances. However, he appeared in just 66 games this season and tallied 218 plate appearances with a woeful .186/.317/.317 output in that time.
More concerning than his bottom-line performance, however, were persistent health issues that still remain somewhat vague and unclear to the public. Frazier has had a concussion in 2018 and has since spent time on the injured list for blurred vision, dizziness and other vertigo-like symptoms. He pulled himself from a minor league rehab assignment this summer, after which manager Aaron Boone told reporters that Frazier was “not quite feeling where he needed to be.” He didn’t return to the field thereafter.
Precisely what has bothered Frazier, however, hasn’t been fully clear. The Yankees were typically vague with updates, and Frazier himself tweeted on Oct. 11 that the injury issues have been “very personal to me and something I’ve wanted to handle privately.” There’s no sense in speculating as to the root of the issue, but the obvious hope is that any maladies that have troubled the clearly talented 27-year-old can soon be put in the past.
With Frazier now reaching the market, he’ll be able to sign with any club. He still has three seasons of arbitration eligibility remaining, so Frazier will likely sign a one-year deal somewhere and, if all goes well, reenter the arbitration system with his new club. A rebuilding team with plenty of at-bats to offer could view Frazier as an appealing upside play — not entirely dissimilar from David Dahl an offseason ago. While the Dahl signing didn’t pan out in Texas, Frazier will surely have teams interested in a similar scenario — assuming he’s in good health.
Prior to his MLB debut, Frazier ranked among the 50 best prospects in the game on most notable lists. He’s a career .262/.333/.471 hitter in 934 Triple-A plate appearances, and Frazier entered the 2021 season as a career .258/.331/.475 hitter in 589 MLB trips to the plate.
Joe says...
Hoping the best for Frazier.
Mickey777
Agreed. Am preparing for all of the cracks from the Yankee haters!!
Joe says...
They’re already showing up.
Ducky Buckin Fent
Course they are.
But the Yanks are always more exciting than the vast majority of teams in MLB. Some of these HOTTAKES are pretty nauseating though.
deweybelongsinthehall
Funny but he’s the type of player that Bloom would seem to take a flyer on. Not saying it will happen. I see the Guardians (how weird that sounds) will sign him. Good luck to him.
davidk1979
He’s a bust like Montero and Jobs and many others
Sid Bream Speed Demon
I don’t think Steve Jobs was a bust.
deweybelongsinthehall
I don’t think Joba was a bust. Disappointment perhaps but he had a few moments most of us can only dream of. I think his career went south during that disgusting midge playoff game.
Fever Pitch Guy
Where’s the love for Odor? He’ll always be remembered for his shining moment with Bautista.
Fever Pitch Guy
Joba copied Sam Malone. Drinking problem contributed to the end of his career, and then he opened up his own pub.
But I will never respect a pitcher who constantly threw at Tom Brady’s brother-in-law.
SodoMojo90
Itd be a shining moment for all of us when we walk up to someone and stick them right in the face when they have their hands down and aren’t expecting it. My seven-year-old niece would probably shine in that moment. All Rougned did in that moment was prove how much of a b!+ch he is.
deweybelongsinthehall
I forgot that. it was never explained.
Yankee-4-Lifer 75
Who cares about all these trolls. Why are they all here anyway? All their opinions don’t matter. They should go back to mutilating squirrels in their backyard. Or whatever they do.
Yankee Clipper
Same Yankees haters, if Frazier recovers and starts performing well, will be all over these boards criticizing Cashman for letting Frazier go and concocting stories about Yankees fans clamoring to dump Frazier.
Always hindsight bias with a little bit of hyperbole mixed in for good flavor.
JoeBrady
He was completely mis-managed. Using the +30 rule, he probably should’ve been shut down on about 8/16/2009.. Instead, with a 7.5 game lead, they kept trotting him out. He wasn’t helping him with his 7.92 ERA the rest of the way. But they kept trotting him out for some 3-4 inning outings.
I don’t think anyone had any idea of what they were doing, or supposed to do.
Steve 34
“They should go back to mutilating squirrels in their backyard. Or whatever they do.” LOL, that’s a new/good one.
teufelshunde4
I dont have a crack on Yanks or Frazier..
I have a crack for all the Yankee fans who claimed Frazier was a future All Star for the last 5 years, but esp after 2020.
deweybelongsinthehall
Reminds me of Sweihart and Boston. Every team and fan base has those players. Stop singling out one team.
Joe says...
Guess we shoulda seen that concussion coming huh?
Darryl Rose
Injuries happen and can derail a promising career.
But as long as that brings you joy then carry on.
Joe says...
Yeah these idiots can’t make up their minds if us Yankees fans want to pawn off Frazier or are excited he’s on our team. They’re annoying enough but I do wish they would pick a lane.
Yep it is
Just another player Cashman the “ Genius” could of got something for and basically played shuttle back and forth with. Only a blind Yankee fan couldn’t see this. How many times could they packaged him and didn’t because they thought he was the next coming of Joe D. Now they get nothing and again how many years has it been since they won a World Series?
Joe says...
Let me explain how non rebuilding teams work. If they have a player they think that can help them, they don’t trade them away. And while shuttling him back and forth was unfortunate, exactly who was he going to replace? And no one ever said anything about Joe Dimaggio. You’re the first one I’ve heard mention that.
Samuel
Indians pitcher Herb Score was Sandy Koufax 4 years before Sandy Koufax was straightened out. A dominating young LH starter blowing away the league. The Yankees Gil McDougald hit him in the eye with a batted ball. Herb was never the same. He said later that the vision came back, but he overcompensated for the temporary deterioration of his vision by changing his mechanics, and then suffered other injuries because of it.
A few years later Tony Conigliaro – a young star OF / hitter for the Red Sox was hit in the face by a pitched ball. He suffered damage to his eye, and although – like Herb Score – he tried to come back for years, was never the same.
The difference here is this – neither fans of the Indians and Red Sox nor the media proposed ridiculous trades with them as centerpieces for star players as they were trying to come back.
Times are different now. The media and a section of the public are out of control, with the majority ignoring them. One other difference I remember – Indians fans and Red Sox fans were rooting for those two players to come back.
Darryl Rose
If you want to insult Cashman’s intelligence you may not want to lead with
“Could of got”
Joe says...
A lack social media and the internet likely hampered you hearing about those things. Those comparisons were stupid even for you Sam.
deweybelongsinthehall
Many don’t remember Tony C made it back to be the starting DH opening day in 75, batting cleanup behind Yaz. Rice then took over the DH spot.
Yankee-4-Lifer 75
Teufelshunde4- making fun of a 27 year old with a history of concussions are we? That’s rich. You are as stupid as the team you root for. Not surprised really.
Yep it is
Thanks Darryl glad the English police are alive and well. Go back to flipping your hamburgers.
Yep it is
Joe “ non rebuilding??” Maybe they should think about that instead of being 2 in the league in payroll year after year and still not winning a thing. Ahh yea they have won several “ most ridiculous contracts” given.
reayzrsharp@gmail.com 2
Had a brother Billy as well..also sang..later became an Angel..the team that beamed him..Messed up the pitchers career as well.
reayzrsharp@gmail.com 2
Same with Dickie Thon.. Astros 2nd Baseman..never the same.
dpsmith22
To even voice a single word for support on how Frazier was treated in NY, shows your either not paying attention or choose not to.
92jays
I think he will do well with some consistent playing time
Oxford Karma
We’ve been saying that for what seems like 10 years.
deweybelongsinthehall
Only 5+.
citizen
thoughts and prayers for a speedy recovery
bestno5
Hopefully he returns to Cleveland. We originally drafted him and need OF help
keysox
WSox right fielder
keysox
Sheets and Frazier
LebronHatesAsians
He will be fine once he gets a legit everyday chance to play and iron out the kinks in his game. I’m just hoping he will be fine in the NL and not the AL East
Action
Go be a star somewhere that would be cool.
Rsox
Pittsburgh. They even already have a jersey with his name on it. Its kismet…
BobbyLox69
Frazier for Glasn…oh my bad, read that title wrong.
mlbnyyfan
The Yankees couldn’t even get a bucket of balls for Frazier. At least the Yankees got some money for Wade.
Yankee-4-Lifer 75
@mlbnyyfan- brother your not looking at this correctly. Frazier may never ever be the same. The Yankees obviously no more than we do.
Michael Macaulay-Birks
Hope he actually gets to play a full career, so much promise, concussion syndrome is no joke
bucsfan0004
LOL. Sorry, i meant LOOOOOOOOL
The Baseball Fan
What’s actually wrong with you? Asking for a friend
Darryl Rose
He already told you. He’s a Bucs fan so very, very bitter and self loathing.
bucsfan0004
The Yankees treated this guy like Mickey Mantle… “Oh you should be so lucky to get a player the caliber of Clint Frazier for Gerritt Cole”. Yea, no thanks. Dangling him to every team every trading deadline when they wanted something. The Yankees/Cashman basically ruined his career up to this point, and now they had to DFA him and get nothing.
bucsfan0004
Hence, L, O, L. Not lol’ing Frazier of course (best of luck to him), but lol’ing the Yankees for being dumb and stubborn
Yankee-4-Lifer 75
@bucsfan0004- I really hope there is a 2022 season. So you can enjoy last place. Think about that you fool. The Pirates are so lousy, that Frazier wouldn’t even sign there when he clears waivers. Why would anyone want to play in Pittsburgh tough guy?
mrperkins
Where is Mrlol? We need his quiet, dignified take rather than these over the top reactions.
iverbure
Answer his question bucs
GarryHarris
He signs after the Rule 5 draft.
Chipper Jones' illegitimate kid
He’ll sign a minor league contract anyway
DarkSide830
technically that makes him R5 eligible. presumably he’d be on a roster if someone wanted to R5 him, but its not unheard of.
tstats
That would be a change of events
Kayrall
Noooooo he was supposed to be the centerpiece of a Luis Castillo trade!
/s
solaris602
He was the centerpiece of EVERY trade proposal for the past 5 years, only to be released for nothing.
deweybelongsinthehall
Every team has big misses to go with surprise hits.
StudWinfield
Frazier and Andujar are not misses, they are injury casualties. Frazier had some good stretches and a great short ’20 season. Andujar had a great ’18. I have no problem with NY sticking with them as long as they did/have.
MVPNacho
It’s ok, they can sign and trade him with Andujar
pinstripes17
Hope he’s able to play again, I loved him as a Yankee.
Ducky Buckin Fent
As did I, @pinstripes.
I remember seeing him play out here in ’17. The young man played all out. Which has something to do with the original concussion. You could actually see the difference in his bat speed compared to other players. & all game long he was pulling scouting reports out of his pocket & studying them between pitches.
What more could you want?
After ’20, I really thought he had broken through. But, I’ve read some interviews with him, & what he is going through is really spooky stuff, man.
I hope he makes it back. He’s kind of a unique individual which I never minded. The NY press was just merciless when it came to him though. All because he had the “audacity” to say he dreamed of wearing #7.
Some team out there could be getting one of the biggest bargains of the offseason if he can get past the concussion stuff. Wish him nothing but the best & a full recovery.
spudchukar
Down goes Frazier!
teufelshunde4
Bat speed means jack when he couldnt put bat to ball enough to tap into that bat speed.
Proly a good candidate for a change of scenery.
Yankee Clipper
Yeah, I agree, man. Many people were looking forward to him breaking out because of his talent, now all the retreads on this site feel proud of themselves for using his injury to try to show how the Yankees can’t develop top talent. It’s sad.
Sad, little people.
DarkSide830
some people just suck
Bart
We call those people Yankee fans.
Yankee-4-Lifer 75
@Bart- No we call people like you trolls.
Yankee Clipper
Y4L: On a different note, and one much more relevant than Bart Simpson above, did you catch Rosenthal’s pay wall article all but reinforcing the Yankees are shooting for the bottom-of-the-barrel SS? Ugh, how frustrating, man.
I’m okay with going to level 2 (Baez/Story) but that’s IF we allocate the rest of the money to the existing roster needs with quality people. If we are only getting one player – Seager for me. I’m not okay with going with Freddy Galvis, who many surmise we will get, while also not filling out the rest of the roster.
Both Seager’s and Baez’s agents have made known their intentions to sign before Dec 1. What…the…ever-blazing Hell….are you waiting for, Cashman?!
Yes, I admit, I’m being a smidge impatient and the offseason just started; but Cash’s waiting game always makes me nervous. Couple that with an impending lockout and there won’t be time to negotiate this winter. It’ll be a free-for-all in Feb/March that could force us to march the same roster, minus Wade, Odor, and Frazier, back on the field.
Yankee-4-Lifer 75
@Yankee Clipper- I like Baez and Story but not as much as Corey Seager. Baez is a free swinger, but he had a really good year. If Story signed with the Yankees for 1 year at $25 million I could live with it. I love signing Seager for $30 million annually for 7 years, with a club option for a 8th year. I am not a fan of 10 year or more contracts though. The only way I trade Gleyber is if I can get Matt Olson & Luis Castillo in a 3 way trade. The Yankees do have the prospects to get it done. As you know I’m not a Cashman fan at all. I have more faith in you or @Ducky Buckin Fent in making big decisions truthfully then Cashman. I hope all is well and your staying healthy. I enjoy all your comments brother so please keep on keeping on! Starting to believe Starling Marte could be our centerfielder opening day now. Whenever that will be.
Ducky Buckin Fent
“retreads”
TradeAcuna
Probably will return to the Guardians… I mean Indians.
DerekBellsMoistMoustache
Very edgy
Oxford Karma
Clever.
You must have enjoyed the other day when they made all those transactions.
bhd360
FREE THE FRO BABY
racosun
Cashman really played that hand well.
Not.
iverbure
Yeah what a idiot. Concussions are known injuries and very predictable. They have a set timeline. Just stop being dumb.
racosun
Oh yeah, totally forgot he’s been dealing with concussions for years.
Not
Mario93
Anyone who has a hole in the outfield, at DH, they should be giving Frazier a chance. Never really got a real opportunity with the Yanks imo. Someone could find a diamond here with Frazier.
Cosmo2
He had plenty of opportunities, injuries, specifically a concussion, just ruined things. If the Yankees thought he wasn’t damaged goods they wouldn’t let him go. Sure, another team should take a chance on him, but unfortunately it is what it is.
Ducky Buckin Fent
@Cosmo has the measure of it.
Dunk Dunkington
Maybe the Yankees can still bring back Frazier on a minor league deal and then flip him to the Angels for Trout.
rememberthecoop
If not Frazier, then perhaps Foreman.
mrperkins
Sign him, then trade him back to the yankees for Andujar. Maybe include Volpe, too. You know, because Frazier is a star in the making.
Darryl Rose
He looked to be a very solid hitter and concussions and other injuries detailed his career. But at least you get to enjoy that a young man’s dream may actually be over.
Yankee-4-Lifer 75
@Dunk Dunkington- maybe we should start calling you Dunkin Donuts Dummy? You trolls say the same dumb comments all the time. Can’t you come up with new material?
davidk1979
But Andy Martino suggested he’d head a package for Bryan Reynolds lol
Buccrazy
ben cherington picks up the phone as we speak
Joe says...
He’d be worth it if his concussion problems are resolved.
Robertowannabe
That is the big if. One never knows. Saw that with Cervelli in Pittsburgh already. Got to the point that any foul tip that caught him in the mask would make you hold your breath. Felt bad for Francisco because he was such a good player but concussion issues really derailed his career too. Hope for Frazier’s sake he recovers and stays healthy
Randomguyonline
Pirates all over him
DanielDannyDano
No player wants it to end this way. Frazier should take a season to allow things to settle and to find his feet and do something other than baseball. Then look out ’23! I wish nothing but the best for Frazier!
justinkm19
Rangers sign him
ryrockak
Cashman has been having a rough few years it appears…
Ancient Pistol
I’m not sure you can blame Cashman for a guy ramming his head into a wall at 15+ mph.
Joseph Gonzalez
I had extremely high hopes for this guy but concussion and vision issues sadly did him in 🙁
tstats
Future Giant
Perksy
Maybe the NY football Giants
bobtillman
Can he play OG???? OT???? C?????
Be the new Offensive CoOrdinator (they fired theirs today)?
BIG BLUE wants to know!!!!!!!!!!
orange2001
Clint Frazier put up decent numbers between 2019 and 2020. In 108 games (356 ABs), he hit .267, 20 HR, 64 RBI, with a .347 OBP.
As a former 5th overall draft pick, he has the potential. Just needs to find a club that will stick with him and give him the chance to play everyday.
Darryl Rose
It’s not that simple. The Yankees didn’t play him because of injuries.
There’s a reason he couldnt be traded for even an A ball prospect.
Yankee Clipper
Actually, the Yankees specifically committed to playing him every day; but, his performance greatly suffered from his concussion issues, which became so disruptive he had to go on the IL.
Vertigo & concussions are not like other injuries. They don’t respond predictably, and certainly can crop back up within a moment’s notice. Couple that with his diving, jumping, no-moves-barred OF play and his body (brain) couldn’t handle it, obviously.
Without these issues, he’s the starting LF for the NY Yankees for the foreseeable future and Gallo never happens.
dipsanddingers
I’d love to see the dbacks pick him up and move Rojas to third
User 1104686089
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Rangers take a look. Is it just a health issue? Or was he ineffective before then? I haven’t watched him in a long time.
Joe says...
Health. Specifically concussion problems. He takes some bizarre routes to the ball in the outfield but is athletic enough to make up for it.
Yanks2
Why can’t he just play LF and they don’t re-sign Gardner? Frazier had a lot of promise. He may not be the touted player they thought but why did they release him? Why not just release Hicks and eat that salary? Hicks is Ellsbury’s doppelganger
Ducky Buckin Fent
I think his entire future on the diamond is in question, @Yanks2. Baseball is hard enough as it is. Add dizziness & blurred vision & it probably borders on impossible.
FunkyD
His health must be a bigger issue than we outsiders are led to believe. IMO there’s no other legit reason they would have such patience with Hicks – or Gary Sanchez for that matter – and not Clint.
Yanks2
Couldn’t they use him as a DH and occasionally have him play LF and Gallo each play LF at different intervals? Clint had so much promise. Something makes think he’s going to be comeback player of the year with a team like Pittsburgh. Ellsbury accomplished that same thing in 2011 I believe.
Darryl Rose
There’s more we don’t know. He has lingering health issues and I would not be shocked if his career is over. I hope he rebounds and has a nice career somewhere.
Yankee Clipper
Yanks2: To expound on what Ducky & D Rose said, blurred vision issues would be prohibitive even for a DH – Imagine they sent him out even as a PH and he got clocked with a FB in the head, it would be devastating. People get hit in the face without blurred vision, ie, Pillar, Stanton, etc. With blurred vision, facing 100mph? Wouldn’t happen, my friend. It’s sad. His whole dream is being crushed because of something completely outside his control.
Brain injuries are incredibly tricky.
LordD99
He wasn’t going to be claimed or traded as the acquiring team would be responsible for his arbitration contract. He’d be worth it if healthy, but his health remains unknown. Some team will sign him. He’ll at least be able to pick a team that has an opening in the OF. Perhaps even Cleveland! Maybe even the Mets. I believe Frazier dates back to when Eppler was with the Yankees.
stevecohenMVP
Seems like a good candidate for the Mets who have literally no one but Nimmo in the outfield for next year. 4th OFer and bench mob piece. Or maybe he retires because of those concussions. Wish him the best though.
Bledcam
I’m going to miss the memes his presence on the Yankees provided. That aside, I’m hoping he can find a career resurgence somewhere. You hate to seeing a career derailed by concussions or any injury for that matter.
fenderbass72
Good riddance! Red Blunder’s poor attitude did not fit in Yankee Pinstripes. He can go elsewhere and be another team’s headache now. It’s just too bad they didn’t trade him when he actually had some value.
Awesom-O
???
When it was a game.
Do you know him?
stevecohenMVP
This comment is super low IQ. Congrats
Darryl Rose
Another teams headache?
Yes he has had serious concussion issues and other undiagnosed issues.
dave frost nhlpa
That bat speed
pogo
They turned down trade offers from the Giants 2 years ago. What happened in two years other than having an expensive outfield you don’t bench
Giants74
Rumors aren’t actual trade offers. I doubt they really wanted him.
Orioles Fan
Come on Orioles. Sign this guy.
OnlyRaysFan
This is going to complicate the Frazier+Andujar for an Ace trade proposals Yankees fans like
Darryl Rose
You are the Carlos Mancini of the baseball world. Hear someone make a funny line, repeat it 1000 times and somehow conclude you are original and amusing.
Eatdust666
And of course a couple of years ago or so before the Refsnyder for (insert superstar player, be it a hitter or a pitcher) trade proposals.
Yankee Clipper
In case you didn’t notice, we are the Joe Rogans in this scenario, you regular ol’ jester.
JoshBoman2001
Royals need to sign him. Then trade for John Means
metsfan104
I guess this means that they can’t fulfill the Yankee fan dream trade of packaging Frazier and Andujar for…..(insert the name of any out of reach player here).
bobtillman
He’ll never replace Rob Refsnyder.
Darryl Rose
You appear to be amused that a young man’s promising career is in jeopardy because of concussions or worse.
Joe says...
Well he is a Sox fan and Refsnider references are about 75% of his comments.
Braves Butt-Head
May go to the Braves on a minor league deal since he’s a Georgia boy.
metsfan104
Maybe he’ll sign with the Mets and then they can do a midseason swap of Frazier for Andujar…
badco44
Clint always had a fair bat, his glove seemed to really hurt his value… DH especially if the NL goes that way
LebronHatesAsians
Honestly I don’t think it’s the concussions that plagued him this year. He wasn’t performing at all right from the start of the season. Some guys just take a long time to put it all together. I think of guys like Nelson Cruz and Jose Bautista who had all the talent in the world but couldn’t put it all together until they were 30. I think they were each on their 4th or 5th franchise before becoming all stars.
Baseball is hard, just because you have the bat speed doesn’t mean it will translate. He plays all out with a me against the world attitude which I appreciate but he is also definitely a bit of a head case. Getting out of the NY limelight could definitely help him with that.
Prediction: Cardinals or Rays
beknighted
RIP Yankee trade proposals centered around Frazier
solaris602
The question is who fills Frazier’s shoes in that regard. Before Clint I believe there were proposals every minute on the minute surrounding Judge.
Oddball Hererra
Don’t worry they can still float absurd Andujar trades
Oddball Hererra
Meanwhile Yankees fans are still trying to trade him for front line pitching
LebronHatesAsians
So what do you think we can get for Frazier going forward? Lol :p
Yankee Clipper
Meanwhile……you’re only the 400th person in this thread alone to make this very same joke and believe it’s both original and funny, Oddball.
Oddball Hererra
I amused myself, which is enough for me 🙂
Bob333
somebody will sign him to a minor league contract and give him a shot to win a job
on a major league team.
Rsox
Pittsburgh, Miami, even Kansas City can offer low-key environments to try to get back on track
MrMet62
I’m hoping that he returns to being healthy. Concussions are so scary!
Central Valley
Giants need outfielders, maybe Farhan gives Frazier a chance?
They just cut bait on Alex Dickerson..
stretch123
He should sign with a team like Pittsburgh or Kansas City that can offer him a low pressure environment to build himself back up. I’d personally like the Marlins to sign him and use him as a 4th or 5th OF as opposed to Brinson. I’m sure there’s a history there with Gary Denbo.
Bob Smiley
Marlins should sign Frazier. Trade for Olson to play 1b or Marte to play CF. if not…sign Frazier and sign Nick C. – the Marlins have the minors to pull off one of those trades and the funds to sign Nick C.
junkmale
Olson would be a fun acquisition, but it’d be depressing to see how much Miami would likely give up.
stretch123
I actually don’t think Olson would be terribly high to acquire… maybe Lewin Diaz, Dax Fulton and Zach Thompson gets the deal done.
DarkSide830
Bring the man to Lehigh Valley. cheap talented OF depth is always helpful.
LebronHatesAsians
Cashman is now comfortably sitting in his office sipping herbal tea with a nice warm cardigan on knowing he has fully infiltrated the Yankee organization and knows he will never be fired. He has Hal wrapped around his finger as if he went to Jared and financed a big diamond ring that is now paid off and fully owns.
I can’t think of one prospect who has even remotely panned out considering the “wealth” of young talent they had. Unless I’m forgetting someone the only big trade he used his prospects for was Sonny Gray. So after having Chapman and Miller in the most intense RP trade market that we will ever see, we are now left with nothing but a project in Gleyber.
Cash, can you seriously disappear to Cincinnati or something so you can be quickly exposed as a mediocre GM at best? Please? Pretty please? Just go away man.
spudchukar
It is hard to understand not getting something for Frazier or Odor, not that teams want to help out the Yanks, bit still these aren’t untalented players. Maybe opening spots for additions, but these guys will find work somewhere!
Darryl Rose
“I can’t think of one prospect who has even remotely panned out considering the “wealth” of young talent they had.”
Google Aaron Judge.
LebronHatesAsians
Talking about the talent they received in the trades and also the talent they hung on to expecting big results from that never panned out. Judge was an all star from day one and continues to be one so it was never a question mark.
Yankee Clipper
They’ve had quite a few work out, like Torres and Andujar (pre-injury). Torres may still “work out” once he’s back fully with his more natural position of 2b. Time will tell that story.
But, there have been several, it’s just that the ones that don’t are voiced so loudly by the Yankees-haters for so long (See the continuation of Rob Refsynder references) that it seems overwhelmingly poor.
LebronHatesAsians
Honestly I always felt SS was too much too handle for Gleyber and I think that was obvious and it was wrong of Cash to try and force him there. I think his defensive struggles (not his fault, he’s not a SS) contributed greatly to his down year at the plate. That and I think the juiced ball in the years prior messed with his approach and mentality at the plate.
Some guys, like Andujar, have had their moments. That’s what makes it so frustrating to be in the log jam that they are and receive so little for what they once were perceived to have.
How much value have the Yankees received either from their own prospects playing for them or for the players they have made deals for with other prospects? It would be an interesting question to answer in terms of WAR for every team in baseball. WAR generated from prospects via them playing for their team or what the player who they were traded for generates? Is there a stat out there that does that?
LebronHatesAsians
Also guys, I’m balls high right now so I might have just rambled like crazy or struck gold. I can never assess until the next day haha
Giants74
‘balls high’, isn’t that what all the guys say about you.
Yankee Clipper
Lol, I hear you, man. Yeah you’re right, they just left him at SS, hoping he would figure it out, which probably damaged him more than anything else. He just isn’t a SS. They need to spend the money to rectify their weak areas and move forward. They have a bunch of money coming off the books in ‘23.
LebronHatesAsians
I’m hoping they trade for Didi to plug the hole at SS for a year and also bc him and Gleyber were tight as hell and he kept Gleyber and the entire team loose. Even if he’s not the Didi of old I think him combined with a good glove (don’t know what they were thinking letting Velasquez go) could hold down SS for a year.
CrikesAlready
[SARCASM] AJ Preller will sign him to a 5Y/$55M guaranteed with player options and a no trade clause.
He loves the infirmed. I bet any player who suits up on game day is a failure in little ol’ AJ’s eyes.
Tacoshells
Oakland As 2022 starting second baseman: Rough Odor.
citizen
cubs will sign Frazer for 6/180, just like Hayward
Plus the terms of odors April trade? is this a new one, mlbtr, all trades get revered when the player sucks, unless otherwise noted?
towinagain
Well there goes the other half of the Hosmer to the Yankees trade
OIC2021
Thanks Yankee fan for Andrew Miller
junkmale
Hope the Marlins sign him.
detroitdave84
Another overrated prospect. Yankees thought they stole him from Cleveland and for one season, it looked that way. Hopefully he can latch on with Baltimore so he can face his old team and mash.
thats it fort pitt
Pirates should sign Frazier.
HalosHeavenJJ
He was fun to watch. Played all out. Hopefully the concussions can clear up so he can lead a normal life and fulfill his potential as a player.
Really, anybody would be smart to sign him to a minors deal and hope for a rebound.
Darryl Rose
Releasing Frazier and Odor confirms they had zero value. They obviously tried to trade both and were clearly offered nothing.
Whether Frazier’s epic fall is from concussions, vertigo or something more serious it’s hard to understand the glee people feel here. How can your hatred of the Yankees run so deep that this brings you joy? I’ll never understand that mindset. I hope he rebounds and becomes the talented hitter he was projected to be but if this is the end of his career I feel sorry for him.
bravesfan
You’re a rebuilding team like the Orioles or Rockies or whoever, you have to take a flyer on this kid. He’s too good and not what his 2021 #’s show
Bright Side
Wade was far and away the best of the three and yet he played less than Odor. Yankees never gave Wade a chance. Urshela was almost as bad as Odor and he got the nod at SS over Wade.
RobM
Frazier unfortunately has fallen into that class of player who suffers a concussion and never quite fully returns. A quirky personality but seems like a good and hard-working player. He’ll hook on with some team, who might get lucky and get a top bat if he can move past his health issues.
Odor? No deal signifies the Yankees season as much as the Odor deal did. The Rangers paid for the entirety of his contract so the Yankees could stay under the LT threshold. A team not trying to win, but instead save a couple dollars. Baseball: 2021.
Rsox
Rangers are going to be paying for it again sans prorated league minimum. A team like the Orioles could take a flier on cheap left handed offense and if it doesn’t work out it still cost less than signing another free agent
rdiddy75
If this doesn’t scream Pirates for Frazier nothing will.
scottn59c
Something smells off about Odor.
letimmysmoke55
all that trash he was talking for not being on a big league club and he was terrible
jgus828
Thought he never really had a chance, but this past year had his best chance ever and couldn’t cut it. Yankees could have traded him over the past few years and wouldn’t pull the trigger.
phillyballers
Had to hang on to him, couldn’t include him in any trades, too valuable…. DFA and released.
Orioles Fan
I can see the Orioles signing Odor. Probably would not cost that much since Texas is still on the hook for most of his salary.
whyhayzee
Concussions suck. Football sucks. Boxing sucks. All that stupid ass mixed martial farts crap sucks. Let’s maximize the incidence of CTE. Freaking stupid. You can’t test it, you can’t fix it, we hardly even know what it is. But let’s keep cracking heads. Stupid. Now, on to baseball. Concussions in baseball are not typical and that makes them unfortunate as all get out. Good luck to Frazier. Don’t wish this on anyone. Been there. Been hit in the head by an automobile windshield, a baseball (twice), a brick, a golf club. Waking up in the hospital with no idea why you’re there is not my idea of a good time. Root for Clint.
LebronHatesAsians
I always remember my mom, who is an RN, telling us that there is no such thing as a minor concussion and the effects will stick with you forever. Wouldn’t wish it in my worst enemy. Makes you wonder how hockey players do it. The speeds they travel at are in head on hits are insane….it’s the equivalent of a car accident.
whyhayzee
It’s a huge problem in sports and not really being addressed very well. But at least it’s a lot better than it used to be. Making a little progress is better than none.
LebronHatesAsians
Just always seems like an issue everyone wants to gloss over. How you feeling these days?
HubcapDiamondStarHalo
I can’t say I follow the Yankees passionately, but Frazier seems like one of the ultimate “wrong place wrong time” guys. There never seemed to be enough at bats for him to establish any consistency… and then coupled with bad luck health problems… that’s a tough combo to overcome. Most important, of course, is the wish that he gets healthy. If he’s able to continue his career, maybe the guy can just catch a break.
theodore glass
The Odor experiment lasted longer than expected.
Rsox
Odor does have a habit of lingering…
gmcfly
Lost me at number change to 77…a tad presumptive. Some flash; many injuries. Makes me think something else afoot. Hope he’s able to find and earn solid ground.
Spare Tire Dixon
Frazier could get a chance in Oakland or Cleveland.
Also, would Yankees fans give up Aaron Hicks to Philly in a deal that brings back Gregorius? Not a one-for-one, but a deal centered on those guys.
jorge78
Dang, Odor was practically free.
Guess you get what you pay for…..
brucenewton
Roster’s a disaster. Yankees are the poster child of how not to spread around 210 million. Got to keep spending on older players from the outside, can’t draft and develop their own.
Kyak
Frazier wasn’t getting better and it showed. The guy had no interest in actually playing baseball. He wanted everything handed to him and when it didn’t happen he started having health issues. My guess is that he’s worried about what his hot girlfriends doing.
ashlandcab
I thought with all these moves we were setting up up or making room for some nice signings ,Can someone see if Cashman is awake, everyone is bettering themselves except the Yanks ?? I hope Cashman isn’t satisfied with the team we have and Cash please don’t think Aaron Hicks will be any different this year, he might even get hurt before spring training, USELESS !!! Cashman just reminder we need a CF, catcher,SS or bring up Volpe, 1st Base, and a #2 pitcher would be nice !