March 16: Tatis is undergoing surgery this morning, tweets Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union Tribune.
March 14, 2:16pm: It’s not clear precisely when Tatis suffered his injury, but he admitted today when speaking with reporters (including Jesse Rogers of ESPN) that he’d fallen off his motorcycle multiple times throughout the winter. One accident described as minor had been reported in early December; Tatis called its resultant injuries “minor scrapes,” but Jon Heyman of the MLB Network tweets that some people “close to the situation” are hypothesizing he suffered his wrist fracture at that point. As Bob Nightengale of USA Today points out, team officials were barred from speaking with or examining Tatis until last Thursday on account of the lockout.
11:29am: Tatis has a fracture in the scaphoid bone of his left wrist, tweets Cassavell. It’s possible the injury was sustained earlier in the winter (though that remains unclear), but it flared up decisively while swinging a bat recently.
11:05am: Padres superstar Fernando Tatis Jr. suffered a broken wrist that could require surgery, president of baseball operations A.J. Preller announced to reporters this morning (Twitter link via MLB.com’s AJ Cassavell). Surgery is a possibility for Tatis, who is expected to miss up to three months recovering from the injury.
It’s a brutal blow to the Padres, who’ll now go as much as half the season without one of the game’s brightest young stars. Tatis missed time last season with a recurring subluxation of his shoulder but nevertheless hit .282/.364/.611 with 42 home runs in just 130 games. Tatis avoided surgery for that particular ailment but will now miss substantial time with a new malady.
San Diego has plenty of infield depth, though there’s no replacing a player of Tatis’ caliber. His injury could create a more stable opportunity for former KBO star Ha-Seong Kim, who struggled in a part-time role with the Friars last year after signing a four-year, $28MM contract. Alternate options on the roster include third baseman Manny Machado, second baseman Jake Cronenworth and utilityman Jurickson Profar — all of whom have experience at shortstop in the big leagues. Twenty-one-year-old CJ Abrams is among the top prospects in all of baseball, but he’s not yet on the 40-man roster and has yet to play above Double-A. He’s in camp as a non-roster invitee, though, so he’ll get a chance to force the team’s hand.
Of course, it at least bears mention that there are a few prominent shortstops yet unsigned on the market. Both Carlos Correa and Trevor Story have been in search of new homes this winter, and were either amenable to a one-year deal that’d allow them to reenter the market next winter, the Friars could make for a previously unexpected fit. There’d be an eventual logjam, but Tatis did spend some time in the outfield last year.
That said, a Story or Correa match is an extreme long shot for multiple reasons. Both are seeking long-term arrangements, and the Padres have been looking to shed payroll as they explore trade scenarios involving Eric Hosmer and Wil Myers. Signing either free agent would require not only forfeiting a draft pick but also forking over a sizable salary. Preller has taught us time and again to never expressly rule the Padres out on virtually any pie-in-the-sky scenario, but it’s pretty difficult to imagine either Story or Correa popping up in Padres camp to step in for Tatis.
Tatis is entering the second season of a precedent-shattering 14-year, $340MM contract extension. He’s slated to earn $5MM this season and will see his salaries rise to $7MM in 2023, $11MM in 2024, $20MM in 2025-26, $25MM in 2027-28 and $36MM annually from 2029-36.
God the sport of baseball really is cursed. Right after the lockout we lose one of our most marketable players.
Tatis Jr might as well just get that shoulder operated on now as well. Hopefully this isn’t a case of got hurt in the off-season and hoped the pain just went away or he injured himself doing something foolish and tried to hide it.
It sounds exactly like a case of getting hurt in the offseason and hoping it would go away. Why else would he come to spring training as if nothing happened, only for it to flare up once he started swinging the bat?
Try reading the article and not just the headline. Its a case of getting hurt during the lockout so he couldn’t talk to the team at all.
Tatis reported the injury to the team the day he came to camp.
It’s a bit concerning that as a professional athlete you would not have it looked at soon after the injury occurred.
Has all the marks of the incredibly stupid Madison Bumgarner bike accident that wrecked his and the Giants season. When do these players realize that—for the amount of money they’re being paid—they owe it to the team and their teammates to stay away from motorcycles during their contract. So freakin’ entitled.
How do you know he didn’t ?⚾️
Similar to Ron Gant in 1994, offseason compound fracture of his leg in a motorbike accident. Atlanta promptly released him due to a notice in his contract he was not supposed to do that activity.
All to familiar with Tatis. He’s an injury ready to happen. What a shame
So he thought that there is a lockout and I can’t tell anybody? So I can’t get it looked at? Come on! Even with a lockout, he should have gotten a doctor to look at it wherever he was. He could have had the surgery three months ago. This reminds me of Sean Connery having a nagging pain in a wrist ever since he was sparring with some aikido master while preparing for Never Say Never Again. He suffered for many years before finding out his wrist was actually broken. And the aikido master that broke it? His name was Steven Seagal.
@Pete’sView
You can’t fault any human being for wanting to live their happiest life, unless he specifically had a contractual clause. But in that case, it would make at least some portion of the contract voidable I assume.
I can’t imagine how upset the SD fans are
Riding a motorcycle is not against the rules in the UPC. Racing a car or a motorcycle is.
What would have made his contract voidable was getting surgery without consulting a team doctor 1st. There was a lockout so not only could Tatis not consult a team doctor, he couldn’t talk to anyone connected to the team.
Nevertheless, he showed zero concern for his teammates or the millions he takes from the Padres. Or for the SD fans.
And FSF — I don’t “fault any human for wanting to live their happiest life,” but Tatis showed he’s gluttonous and doesn’t deserve the millions. That kind of money brings happiness but also responsibility.
If that is the case that seems incredibly stupid. Players should have been able to seek medical help/advice for injuries during the lockout. To not allow this seems cruel and irresponsible.
A quick IG post would get to the SD front office.
There were certain situations that were allowed. However, I think it was if they were already in rehab or something similar. I’d have to dig it up again.
This is just a case of him being stupid and not seeking medical attention on his own to take care of it when it happened.
ukpadre — This is completely on Tatis. He goes to a doctor, they immediately call the Padres. There is absolutely no way MLB finds fault with that.
Happy this injury prone player is not with White Sox!
Riding and falling off his motorcycle…
likely not a street bike.
Yeah, with Eloy, Yoan, Robert, and Kelly, etc.., the whysox are picture of health
Perhaps, but they didn’t injure themselves through thoughtlessness.
ok, they are thoughtfully injury prone
And to my knowledge, don’t ride motorbikes because they realize they have a responsibility to their teammates.
I used to surf with a Padre infielder, got hurt a lot doing that..
Bigger question is why the team didn’t stipulate in his contract that the cycle riding was a no-no. I’d have thought they would want the guy put i bubble wrap in the off-season after investing so much $$ in him
Bigger question is why the team didn’t stipulate in his contract that the cycle riding was a no-no. I’d have thought they would want the guy put i bubble wrap in the off-season after investing so much $$ in him
He fell off his motorcycle “multiple times” during the offseason. I used to ride dirt bikes, so maybe he needs some lessons if he can’t control the bike.
You got hurt “a lot” surfing? In San Diego? LOL.
JayFan — Completely agree. After watching a number of high-profile players repeatedly do stupid things like this, teams should have clauses in their contract. If they damage themselves doing such things, they don’t get paid for the time they’re out.
The Padre got hurt a lot. But yeah, big wave surfing is rather dangerous, didn’t know that? But try to follow the context.
Nice of u to offer him riding lessons. He’ll text you.
Big wave surfing? LOL! You’ve never been to San Diego, have you?
You’re surprised he’s hurt again? He’s beloved, but also rather brittle.
It’s not the sport which cursed in this case…just the Padres.
I feel like when you use the word “curse,” it means that the event was just an unlucky happenstance. This was anything but that. We have a young man with a guaranteed $340M deciding to ride a motorcycle despite, as the article says, falling off it “multiple times” during the off-season.
If baseball is cursed, it’s because its players have cursed decision-making skills.
Don’t forget “Daredevil” Jeff Kent when with the Giants.
Puck!!!
Wow, out until the all-star break. That sucks. unfortunately he can’t stay healthy
The new Mr Glass.
Not glass if what is being reported is true that he suffered the injury due to a motor accident during the offseason. He couldn’t contact the team due to the lockout restrictions. This is what was said on MLB Network. He played through a shoulder injury, that’s toughness, not glass.
Yawn. He can certainly drive his ass to the doctor and get an x-ray with that $330 million in the bank. Irresponsible & selfish player, plain and simple.
He makes 30 plus million a year and can’t go to a doctor? That is irresponsible. There should be a clause in his contract which says he can’t ride a motorcycle or do anything dangerous. The Padres were stupid to give a monster contract when they didn’t need to.
Agree. This is dumb. But he doesn’t need to care now he has that monster contract. Bet he wouldn’t have been so stupid before it was signed. Idiot.
there is one thing we are overlooking his contract could prevent him to see another doctor unless the team okays it. perfect example was the Eichel saga he wanted a surgery that buffalo said no to and then had to wait until he was traded to a team that would allow it, if he would of got the surgery still in buffalo good chance his contract would of been voided.
Good thing he signed this fully guaranteed contract.
Baseball’s loss to see great players go on the IL.
Part of what makes a player great is durability. Tatis is moving toward fragile.
Too bad, he’s …entertaining, so this sucks for fans of the game!
Regardless, the game is better with stars and he’s one of the games stars.
The game will be better without his stupid antics. The less fans prop up these entitled attention seeking guys maybe they’ll be forced to grow up and not get hurt trying to steal 3rd in a meaningless spot or not riding a dirt bike and fall off like a goof multiple times. Hopefully he has to pay the Padres back money for being a idiot.
Antics? Fans and opposing players love it
@kodion … I guess somebody had to say it. Even at this stage of his career, he’s starting to look like a guy who can never play a full season.
I will bring great honor to padres organization and become best SS in NL in the first half.
Kill me.
Ummm, hate to break it to ya Harambe buuuut… u ded already.
Only his physical form is no longer with us. His spirit lives with us growing stronger each day. RIP sweet prince.
Find a good counselor – and don’t stop exploring your issues beyond just this particular crisis…, legend. 🙂
Sucks, and I say this as a Dodgers fan.
Sucks, and I say this as a Giants fan
Was he shooting hoops w Aaron Boone?
I think he was riding dirt bikes with Jeff Kent and Madison Bumgarner.
“Washing their trucks” lol
I will say, I have a relative who broke his arm installing a new window in his house haha
@horror, and Mike Matheny!
#huntingknivesaresharp
Steve Trout, Cubs pitcher from the 80’s had to go to the 60 DL from falling off his bicycle.
Sammy Sosa went to the DL after pulling a back muscle from sneezing.
Was it a voluntary sneeze or an involuntary sneeze?
Marty Cordova with Orioles fell asleep in tanning bed and had to miss a couple of days. Then had to play looking like a lobster for a bit. Classic Orioles
Chris Coghlan’s torn meniscus while throwing a pie takes the cake for me
Sosa was trying to snort his steroids and sneezed.
“Sammy Sosa went to the DL after pulling a back muscle from sneezing.”
although stuff like that is funny, its not even close to the same as this
i’ve done the same while sneezing (sneezing really stresses a few back muscles apparently, lol)
and another time while driving by myself i put my arm on top of the passenger seat and felt a pop in my shoulder and couldnt lift that arm for months afterward
surprised no one is mentioning Cespedes
@Orichalcon… It was a joke. I’ll bet you’re fun at parties. Too fragile, maybe?
Let’s not forget Jeremy Affeldt’s hamburger-patty incident! 🙂
Affeldt and Cordova are classic injuries! I’m surprised nobody mentioned Adam Eaton slicing his stomach open while trying to open a Costco pack of DVDs. Seppuku hai!!
He was getting an “aggressive massage” with Carlos Correa.
…or with Trevor Bauer’s leftovers.
Or Deshaun Watson’s leftovers…
Broke it while giving someone a high five
He is so injure prone
Maybe from the car accident? If so he should of had surgery already. Dude seem to hate the knife, didn’t fix his shoulder this offseason either.
I’m sure there was some hesitancy due to a lack of team physician access.
You don’t need a team physician to have an injury looked at. If I hurt my wrist, I would go and have it looked at in an ER or an urgent care facility and have and x-ray to see if there was damaged and if it was, have a reputable orthopedist specializing in wrist injuries look at it and fix it. I believe Mr. Tatis or any other athlete can do the same thing.
Can certainly afford it
Yeah, or reach out to said specialists immediately since he has ~infinity $. He certainly doesn’t need the team in order to have his medical concerns looked into.
I see that Harambe beat me to it, even from the grave.
Why all the hate? Tatis did have it looked at when the motorcycle accident happened in December. He is the one that told the team that he might need surgery on the day he got to camp.
Unfortunately, the owners locked the players out so he could not talk to the team or team doctors after December 1st.
If a player has a surgery without the team doctor being involved, it voids their contract. He had no choice but to wait until the lockout was lifted and he could talk to the team.
If you want to hate on someone for this, start pointing fingers at the MLB owners.
But, he does. See my comment below.
Truly PATHETIC excuse. He’s a grown man, he can learn to take care of himself.
You say some things that aren’t in MLBTR’s post. Do you have any sources for those things?
It wasn’t hesitancy to have surgery, it would have voided his contract. From what we are hearing the team did know about the injury and Tatis provided them with an MRI taken in December on the day he got to camp.
Given that it was “hesitancy” to have his shoulder properly repaired …
Was Tatsis in the accident with Pete Alonso?
Motorcycle accident.
It happened in December during the lockout so he couldn’t contact the team or have surgery by a team authorized doctor. If he had surgery by another doctor it would have voided his contract.
Lingering effect from his bike crash?
His motorcycle crash in December caused this to happen. He probably didn’t go to hospital to get it checked out and waited until spring training to find out it’s fractured. I wish he would have gone to the hospital back in December then he would have been ready for opening day.
Why all the hate? He did have it checked out. We are learning today that he provided the team with an MRI that was taken shortly after the accident happened when he arrived at camp after the lockout was lifted.
The problem was that he couldn’t speak directly to the team of the team doctor during the lockout. He certainly could not have surgery as that would have voided his contract.
Is it necessary to write the same comment over and over again? Once is enough.
It’s Pads Fans. Copying and pasting the same comment a hundred times from multiple accounts is kinda just what he does.
Oh man this really sucks for everyone. Padres must be sweating about that contract with how many injuries he’s already suffered.
And his agent is rolling in dough
Padres front office knew about his fragility and injuries before they offered the contract. They only have themselves to blame. Tatis, however, has been a complete idiot, and should be blaming himself and using these 3 months to look into growing up and taking some responsibility.
Padres, the Yanks still have Stanton available. Make your pitch!
Hosmer! Dot the I’s and cross the T’s, we have a deal!
And 2 of the 5 top prospects, Yanks choice. Of course, we’ll add a former MLB HR leader in the deal as well.
Fine, throw in 2 of the Yank’s 5 best prospects and we still have a deal. Have it your way! You drive a hard bargain.
The Yanks have arguably the smartest GM in the sport. No pulling the wool over his eyes.
Okay, Gwynning…. Our best? Sure…uh, Andujar, and uh, the other guy with the short hair.
@FSF Kinda sounds like Jeter did that when he dumped the Stanton contract on you guys.
I’m faxing over the TPS coversheet now.
One cannot fault that deal except in hindsight. And if memory serves, it was only done because Ohtani signed with the Angels.
But as for Stanton, with the Marlins picking up a fair chunk of his remaining contract, I don’t think most Yankee fans (and certainly myself) have any problem with hanging on to him. If the Yanks had a more flexible roster, I’d be inclined to keep him barring a great deal, but his lack of flexible use and not expanding the rosters during the negotiations is why I would prefer to move him.
Nice “Office Space” reference. Don’t forget to add that you’ll be picking up half of Hosmer’s contract.
His surplus value is below -$100m on BTV. There will be no “great deals” for him.
If Voit is a former HR leader then the Dodgers are former World Champions.
Didn’t you get that memo???
Which deal? Do you mean Tatis Jr.? There were plenty of people that faulted that at the time of signing.
If you mean the Stanton to NY deal, again, plenty of people that faulted it at the time of the trade.
Just what were these criticisms of the Stanton trade? While I’ve no doubt some writers may have not liked it, it was universally welcomed in Yankee Nation. The guy was the reigning MVP at the time coming off mashing 59 HRs and was 27 YO. And even with some durability issues, he had accumulated 35.7 WAR in 8 years.
The most expensive and most often injured DH in baseball that is going into his age 32 season. The Yankees are on the hook for $179 million and the Marlins 20 million of his contract.
Yankees can no more trade Stanton without eating tens of millions of his contract, maybe $80-90 million, than the Padres can trade Hosmer without eating half his contract.
Hey, you guys seem in desperate want of an impact DH. And now with Tatis going down, I was just trying to help you guys out. But if you’re going to sit there and question my altruistic motives, then we have nothing further to discuss my good sir!
In all seriousness, isn’t taking on Hosmer at least $40-45M dollars of dead weight? And I’m willing to take Myers which is at least another $15M in dead weight.
Smartest GM?! I think not. He consistently misses on trades and FA signings.
And, the farm system is overrated. Many of those guys that get traded flame out and never live up to all the hype.
Last time they won a World Series Title was 13 years ago.
He doesn’t “miss out” on anything. He makes decisions about how to best utilize the resources he’s been given. He’ gotten the team into the playoffs every single year but maybe 2 during his 20+ years as GM. I have no idea what you think he should be doing but if you genuinely think that, you are not an astute observer of the game or its overall workings.
As for the farm system and “flaming out”, that’s the majority of teams and the history of “prospects” in baseball.
Just horrible.
Probably unreported symptom from his train crash.
OUCH
Good thing he got that money!
well, bye
Padres clubhouse instantly gets an upgrade.
No. If you have watched them, you’d know they play much better and w more energy when Tatis is in the lineup
Their record was actually better when he was on the IL. And before the swag chain was introduced.
I should have said they play better when Tatis is healthy and playing well (which is most of the time he is healthy)
Lets start the Correa to San Diego rumors. Sign him to a 10/$300MM contract to cover the position for 3 months. Time to earn your money Boras!
Padres fans…I’m sorry.
Terrible. I hate seeing these great young players hurt and not on the field.
Us Padres fans can’t ever have anything nice. Sheesh
Tom-I remember a player named Tony Gwynn who was better than nice.
The Padres had him his whole career.
He was truly a class act who any team would have been proud to have on an historic basis.
Yes- I often saw him play at Jack Murphy stadium as a kid. It WAS awesome. Amost two decades after his retirement, I’m ready to see the the next generational “padres” to take the field.
This is what happens when you sign an oft injured player since his minor league days to that large contract he just can’t and won’t stay healthy. He plays violently and that doesnt help his small frame either. Too bad for the Padres and the sport as well but this alone won’t stop GM’s from giving away high contracts to D.L. Bound Candidates year in and year out.
Small frame? Dude is like 6’4″ 220 lol
not his height he has a small frame for someone that is 6’4 really skinny no muscles at all I seen him up close in dominican republic.
6’3″ and 220. What small frame? He was in a motorcycle accident. How exactly does that make him injury prone?
@PadsFans … “Injury prone” because he hasn’t played a full season since A ball.
What was he doing? Are they throwing inside heat during batting practice or was it during fielding practice?
Might as well vote him into the MLB injury prone HOF.
Time for a new face of the game…
Did you bother to READ the article? That is a rhetorical question since we know you didn’t.
With this news, we need Ha-Seong to show up BIG if we want to be even just wild card contenders.
@Ha-Seong Kim
I can see him beating Ted Williams’ slash line of 1957: .388/.526/.733.
Lmao I wish. But seriously like .275/.350/.450 with 14 pops and his stellar glove would be so so big in the first half
We need more than just another (outfield) bat. We need pitching. There isn’t a single guy in our rotation maybe Snell) that can be counted on to go a full season, and there’s nobody behind them.
Do you even follow your team? Musgrove is the workhorse, not Snell.
Yep, Musgrove. My bad. Thank you so much for calling me out on my mistake. I am forever in your debt, and can only dream of one day reaching your level of perfection.
Back up the truck to Pittsburgh and empty all your prospects for Hosmer and Myers salaries
You think Pirates can afford that? More likely a higher payroll rebuilding team like the Rockies or Twins.
Or…. because he has all that money in his pocket, he can go balls out both on and off the field.
As a White Sox fan, I can say trading away Tatis when he use to be an unknown is not looking bad as people use to say on this forum. Seems like Tatis can’t stay healthy enough to play a full season or even close to most of the season. Lets not use the 2020 season since it was only a 60 game season. The Padres will regret giving Tatis that long term extension.
White Sox automatically lose that trade even if Tatis never plays again
Back when this trade happened the White Sox had Anderson blocking Tatis as the future short stop and the Sox only had to pay half of Shields contract at the time. The Sox needed a starter in their rotation since they were competing at that time. Actually, its not a big loss to the White Sox if you want to say Anderson is the White Sox’s short stop right now rather than Tatis when it’s come to production to staying healthy and salary.
Tatis hadn’t played a single professional game when that deal was made. The fact is that he was a lottery ticket that happened to pay off.
You sad, bitter little man.
He’s one of the best players in baseball, still young as hell, just needs to get healthy. May or may not regret it, but what were they supposed to do? Not extend, or even worse, trade one of the young superstars of the game?.. you lock up guys like this, whatever happens after that is in gods hands really. Nobody can predict future injuries. You collect as many good baseball players as possible and hope for the best. In FTJ’s case, when healthy he’s a bonfide superstar. But I guess I understand what you’re saying, definitely is a huge contract. I think he’ll be fine.
Yes, they could have waited to lock him up.
I have to disagree. Frankly I think (even after this mishap) that 14 years $300 mil will prove to be the biggest steal in MLB history. Compare this to Seager’s contract for example. Or a better comparisoni, Soto’s upcoming contract.
He’ll be back June 15ish, and probably still lead NL SSs in WAR
Funny thing is, he’s repeating his dad’s career (except the record contract) in terms of being an early career superstar that can’t stay healthy.
It’s eerily similar
Tatis played all of 2020 and 130 games in 2021. He hit 42 bombs in 2021 even with missing 30 games.
You must really be b-hurt to make a comment like that.
Individual statistics mean nothing to me, especially for a player hyped up like Tatis. There is no knocking Tatis’ talent but the guy is fragile for such a young age.
In a reality, I am more impressed with players being on the field through most of the season to making timely hits like a single to a double that drives in two runs to take lead or win a game rather than hit a solo home run off of a team like the Diamondbacks when my team is already up 6 to 7 runs. Again, individual statistics mean nothing to me for a guy like Tatis when he can’t stay healthy and be on the field when it matters when he is getting that guaranteed money.
Then again, I like dominating pitchers over guys like Tatis who has 45 of his 81 career home runs of teams that play in the same division as his team. Tatis’ most home runs are off the Diamondbacks and that is not saying a lot with that pitching rotation.
So you are ABStract?
Since we are talking about individual player, then the only thing we can mention is individual stats.
The statistics say that he stayed on the field for 59 of 60 games and 130 of 162. They also show that he was 2nd on the Padres and 5 percent better than league average in plating baserunners. BRS of 20% when League average was 14.7% His 6.6 WAR, which is a cumulative stat that gives credit for playing more games, was still #2 in the NL. .
But hey, you don’t like stats, so you can just ignore reality.
I do have a question though. How exactly of does a motorcycle accident show he is injury prone? .
Hopefully, the Padres’ front office had some clauses in that contract given to Tatis but it seemed doubtful since he was a blooming young talent. It always been an issue with giving young athletes some much money at a young age so much money at a young age. These athletes received a large sum of money and get careless! This only hurts the fan base more than the owners and players while this has been one of the biggest problems in professional sports.
As a Chicagoan, I saw some athletes out party the night before games and were performing badly the next day. It is what it is when these guys make millions for playing a game. This is why attend very few games and not pay astronomical prices to sit out there on the weekend knowing some of these players are probably hung over. I rather watch the game on tv or listen to it on the radio.
2020? Really? A 60 game “season” doesn’t really help your point.
Better not trade CJ Abrams to get out of Hosmer’s deal, Preller. I think FTJ is gonna have to play somewhere a little less dangerous.
Wow, didn’t ST start today? So, by my calculations he was injured……getting dressed? That’s commitment! Talk about an aggressive ballplayer…
Hard to read your post with all these tears in my eyes… I guess the neighbor is cutting onions. Ha
Read the article.
I was just kidding Pads, I feel for your team, man. This one’s going to hurt, but at least he will be back mid-season for the push toward October.
Read the article? Why didn’t we think of that, Clip!!?? In all honesty, the first iteration of this article said “Tatis out 2-3 months with broken wrist, more to come…”
Slow your roll, Turbo Fans. Were just cracking jokes ’round here.
Ouch. That sucks for him and fantasy owners.
…and all fans of baseball, and specifically SD fans, and other players whose salary benchmarks are set by him, and the actual Padres owners.
He was smart to sign that long term deal. Real smart.
I gave you a thumbs up but let’s be real, who WOULDN’T have signed that deal. Before it was done, Soto would have agreed to a modified version of it, since he had more years already.
Cursed franchise
Just some bad ownership over the years
And, some bad front office moves with players
When and how “during the offseason” was he injured? And was the inability for players and teams to be in contact with each other the reason for the delay in the surgery?
Motorcycle accident in December.
Yes, the inability to talk to the team or team doctors was the reason for the delay in getting surgery. He notified the team and provided medical records when he arrived at camp is what we are hearing now.
According to the UPC, players can’t get any surgery without consulting team doctors or they void their contract.
UPC?
Uniform player contract.
Universal Product Code.
You must be thinking of the new Patches On Uniforms Treaty, aka POUT.
The next tulo
Whew! Glad I didn’t draft yet. Had him #2 on my board. Tough break if you have already drafted. In the real world, more proof that $300+ mil contracts are ridiculous.
Still worth drafting and putting on the IL and pick up someone from the WW.
On a positive note, he’s only 23 and the Padres only owe him $5 mil this year. He will still earn that in 3 months. On a sour note, the Padres will owe this guy $36 mil per year in his age 30-37 seasons. That could have a titanic effect on that organization.
If he would agree to restructure his contract at age 30, when they begin owing him the $36 mil per year, they could save the franchise by paying him $7.2 mil per year for 40 years. That’s right. Do the math. Good luck with that, Padres.
With inflation, $36M/yr in 2030s could be a lot cheaper than it looks now.
Draft him anyway. Just draft his backup too. Kim should not cost much in most drafts.
I blame Manfred
It’s Trump’s fault.
Alas, my fellow Americans, the fault is not in our TV-stars – but in ourselves – in ever choosing such a fascistic, narcissistic, mendacious conman* in the first place…by any rationale we might so conjure to excuse our collective flaws, as a people and a nation.
Acknowledging THAT, could serve as a building-block to a better future. 🙂
(*And who so admires him some sweet-murderin’ Putin, so very, very much as well, BTW.)
@goob … So, are you simply ignorant or indoctrinated? (The giveaway was in using a term you obviously can’t define). At least your screen name is appropriate!
Huge blow for the Padres, sucks for baseball
San Diego Mets
Both fan bases will have a lot to cheer for this season, unlike your wife.
Suppose not, considering I’m not married. Also, when is that slam book you borrowed due back at the middle school library?
So she left you already… makes sense. Well at least you have more time to be bitter about baseball now that that’s out of the way.
Well Padres will get a good look at Kim. 3 months is a good long look.
unless they put Cron at SS
Kim is the better defender so if Crone/Kim are both on the field then Kim at SS and Crone at 2B makes the most sense.
Either way Kim is going to need to play more because they would need to cover 2B if Crone is the everyday SS. Other options for middle infield are Profar, who was awful last year, or Abrams, who likely isn’t ready for the bigs.
Kim is leagues better defensively than any other shortstop on the Padres 40-man roster. Couldn’t hit right-handed velocity to save his life in 2021 tho.
Kim is a better defender than Cron? Data from their careers to date suggests not as Kim was very average as a defender all those years in KBO.
If they don’t sign another middle IF, I think Cron and Kim will split time at SS. Kim hasn’t figured out MLB pitching yet and until he does they’ll try to figure out a way to boost lineup by moving Cron to SS. More pieces are to be added, I would hope.
Kim was elite as a defender in 2021. He was worth 2.1 bWAR in 2021 WITH his awful hitting. And the eye test backs up what the stats say about Kim’s defense. Cronenworth is obviously a better hitter and Kim’s inability to hit right-handed velocity might prevent him from being a viable starter but if he is starting, it needs to be at shortstop and shortstop ONLY.
Yes, I know he was very good in 2021 with limited playing time, just as Tatis was great in 2020, then look what happened…. Point being small sample size shouldn’t yet define him. Check out his many years in KBO where he was mediocre defensively.
Top Padres prospect CJ Abrams should get time @SS.
Then when Tatis is healthy, someone moves to OF.
Abrams is slowly returning from broken leg injury, and just turned 21. He won’t be on opening day roster because he needs rehab/and experience. A mid-season call up is possible though..
Living in San Diego, it makes me very sad that I won’t be able to watch this monster play in the first half. Heal up, sir – can’t wait to have you back.
Fra…gil…e. Must be Italian.
Glass Tiger
Glass Padre
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES!
THIS IS MY LAST RESORT!
SUFFOCATION. NO BREATHING
POP GOES THE WEASEL
There’s a lot that doesn’t pass the smell test with this Tatis story.
I think we’re gonna learn a lot and it feels like it’s not going to reflect well on him.
Yup.
I thought the extension was unnecessarily premature. Got a looooong time to go on that one, so SD fans can only hope these youthful indiscretions will taper off over time.
There’s a lot that doesn’t pass the intelligence test of reading the article first in many of the comments here.
Tatis hurt his wrist in a motorcycle accident in December. There was a lockout. He was not allowed to communicate with the team or team doctors from December 1st until yesterday.
His wrist was treated at the time of the accident and we have learned today that he informed the team of the injury and gave them medical reports as soon as the lockout was officially lifted. He got to camp yesterday and was then able to be examined by Padres’ team doctors.
Most of us would not even realize we had a hairline fracture in that bone because we don’t put much pressure on it. It would just be a sore wrist. A ballplayer puts tremendous pressure on it both swinging the bat and catching the ball.
In the UPC, it says that a player’s contract can be voided by the team if they have non-emergency surgery without consulting team doctors.
That’s a good recap. I’m going to assume all of that is accurate.
Found Tatis’ burner account.
No sources for any of that.
Padres win more often when he’s out of the lineup.
Small. Sample. Size.
Who wouldn’t want a great player in the lineup?
When I first saw Tatis I thought he was great. Hustled and played harder than any I’ve ever seen. His hard play seemed to spur on his teammates. I thought what a great young player.
Fast forward to today I can see that he’s a piss poor teammate. Kid gets hurt during the off season on his “bike” and tries to hide it. Then when called to spring training he can’t swing a bat cause his wrist is broken. A good teammate would’ve admitted he did a wrong by playing on his dirt bikes and got the medical treatment at the time of the injury. Should be missing only a month instead of 3. Shame on you Fernando.
I still think he has the most exciting skill set to watch in the sport, but he’s no longer my favorite player because of the Dbag he’s proven himself to be. Albert Bell and John Rocker think he’s a bad teammate
Tatis couldn’t talk to the team immediately after the accident. It happened in December and because of the owner’s lockout of the players, Tatis was not allowed to talk to either the team or the team doctors.
Yesterday was the 1st day of camp. Tatis was examined by team doctors yesterday.
So why would you even try to say that he was hiding it? Claiming that shows a shocking lack of even a basic understanding of the situation. Shame on you. The team learned of the severity of the injury the first day they could learn of it.
Fernando Tatis denied the reports that his son, Fernando Tatis Jr., was in a motorcycle crash in the Dominican Republic last Sunday, per the Associated Press (h/t ESPN).
“He is fine, in perfect condition,” he said. “They treated him here; it’s not a big deal, just a fall—he scraped his knee and hands a little.”
Those statements sure do make it sound like they’re saying don’t look over here all is well.
Well, now that he’s out of 3-months, where is Daniel Camarena? We’ll need him to smash some grand slams.
Tatis needs shoulder surgery also.
Get it done too while he is on the DL.
The surgery should have been done at the end of last season.
Padres are paying this guy 300M and they are way too passive about his health
and about getting him ready to play a full season.
What a terrible way to begin another brutal Monday and work week is to hear this news as a Padres Fan……
Most of the comments I’m reading on here are hearsay garbage. Not surprising coming from the usual illustrious group of commenters I see on this site….
You cry a lot. Are you sure this is the right place for someone who lacks emotional stability?
You hate on other people a lot. Lots of anger in your comments.
“Are you sure this is the place for someone who lacks emotional stability?”
Pot, meet kettle. And point out what he said that was angry, I’ll wait.
Inb4 he accuses you of being WCR and then mutes you.
This is crazy. Tatis injures himself on a motorcycle accident, and waits three months to have surgery? Is this because motorcycles aren’t allowed in his contract?
I remember when the Angels did that with Mo Vaughn. He hurt his bicep in a September game, they did nothing, and he tore in the first game of spring training. Amazingly, they still dumped his contract on the Mets.
Its because there was a lockout. You know, the last 3 months. Where were you?
It is against the Uniform Player Contract to have surgery without consulting a team doctor and that was no possible during the lockout. Tatis contract could have been voided if he did, During the lockout he could not even talk to team doctors or FO, let alone have them examine the injury.
The team learned of the severity of the injury when Tatis was examined by team doctors on the 1st day that it was possible, yesterday.
Tone down the haterade a bit.
Dodger fan here. Really hate to hear this. Tatis is a legitimate superstar. Hopefully, he heals quickly and gets back in a few months.
Just heard the news. Very unfortunate for the sport. Man, we need guys like Acuna Trout ( oft injured lately) Tatis on the field , more exciting players on the field , the less the suits will be tinkering with the grand old game
42 bombs, 100 RBI and over a 280 average and y’all call him “glass” and “useless”….lol what are some of you smoking sometimes I mean seriously. Get a good wholesome education (or just a job period). Some of you could use one….
You’re calling people out for their supposed lack of an education (or a job?), but you write like a 5th-grader? Innnnnteresting.
If the shoe fits.
Idk about useless but the glass remarks are more than fair. He has been injured in each of the last 3 full seasons and now this.
Are you referring to the hyperlaxity in his shoulder? well, that is a chronic injury that some of us are born into, including Tatis. Call it an injury if you want, but having it doesnt make him injury-prone, it’s just bad luck. He might also opt for surgery to reduce movement of the joint (laxity), but each case has to be managed and they have learned a lot about what works for him. But I see this chronic problem as different than a motorbike accident, in terms of laying blame on the guy as being injury prone.
At this point, he should take the season off, get his shoulder taken care of as well and be ready for 2023.
Doctors have opted not to do surgery on his shoulder, and apparently his shoulder is doing very well.
@Brew88 … “Doctors” didn’t opt, Tatis did; that was HIS decision.
Okay let me rephrase. His doctors and the team medical staff advise him and he and management have publicly relayed to us their medical prognosis and recommended options.. His options are to manage the problem via PT and strengthening or surgically stabilize the subluxation. The first option has so far been the course of action and he and the Padres medical staff are reporting very good progress. His decision, has been the priority option suggested by medical professionals.
It wasn’t the “recommended option,” it’s the option that HE chose. At no point in time was PT reported to be the “recommended” option. It was simply one of two options, and the choice was 100% Tatis. And that WAS reported.
Sign $330 mil extension then violate contract by riding motorcycle. I would withhold pay while on IL just to teach a lesson. Yes, I know the union would challenge it and I know it would create an uneasy relationship with a player that signed a 13 year extension, I also know if you do nothing to teach children accountability they never learn it.
For better or worse, if you don’t enforce the stipulations in the contract, then they shouldn’t be in there.
teddyk: It beats a slap on the wrist. 😉
You don’t know the stipulations in his particular contract. Motorcycles are not in the UPC. Dirt bikes ridden off road are. Do you know what kind of motorcycle he was riding?
Doing something that is illegal according to labor laws like withholding pay would not be teaching accountability.
Maybe it broke while practicing his bat flip?
Wow.
The scaphoid is not a bone to leave unattended.
Moreso than other bones? Why?
Limited blood supply (more so than other bones) so prone to slow and problematic healing.
yes, so now bone graft needed
Its an commonly broken bone and often happens when you put your arm out to break your fall. You could have a hairline fracture there and not even realize it if you are not constantly putting immense pressure on it like a ballplayer does, It would just be a very sore wrist.
Tatis did have it attended. The team was unable to have a team doctor examine him until yesterday because of the lockout.
You’re just making excuses for Tatis. When you’re still sore after a few days, you go to the Doctor. Been there, tried that. Another common injury fom breaking a fall is a radial fracture in the elbow joint.
No one can replace the talent and swagger that Tatis brings to the table.
Padres are hoping top prospect CJ Abrams and that Korean star to pick up the slack.
Damn that really sucks. I hope he heals quickly
This sucks
Sucks to see one of the top players go down. MLB is better when the best players are healthy. Hopefully he recovers quick.
I hope his greatest years aren’t behind him.
They are going to need to stay above .500 while he out or the 2022 season will be a loss. I don’t know you can replace a Tatis in the lineup.
at least he will have ZERO Errors after 3 months.
This will make Suzuki signing even more important although suzuki could be a bust as its not guaranteed his stats will translate over. Ichiro and Ohtani are levels above him
zero errors? That’s putting a lot of pressure on Kim and Cronenworth. Even GG winners at SS make 10-20 errors per season
I guess a silver lining here is that none of Tatis’ injuries seem to be linked.
Well, they kind of are related. He’s reckless, takes too many chances and is putting his fun above all else. If it were me in his position, I’d have only one thing on my mind, winning baseball games. Even long careers are short. When your done with the game is the time to be doing the fun stuff that can be kind of dangerous. To be the best you’ve got to put all your focus on the task at hand.
We assign labels so easily, a flaw in our home sapiens. Yes, chronic shoulder laxity (usually a developmental problem some are born into) and a sudden fall to the ground are not linked. One is out of the control of the person. Falling off a bike is. So one is not reckless. The other one is. Amusing how some commenters are waging there is a trend of recklessness. based upon this one accident. He plays the game hard, takes chances on the basepaths, and I guess some are bothered by that.
I’m thinking if he injured it doing something dumb during the off-season, he could’ve had it repaired without divulging details of the incident since players weren’t permitted to be in contact with staff.
That’s an interesting question. I would think that typically he wouldn’t be allowed to get surgery without team authorization, but of course he couldn’t even tell them what happened.
We should sign Bryant and put him at 3b and Manny at SS till Tatis is back.
Then Bryant becomes LF/DH.
Was one plan already anyway.
None if his injuries are linked exactly but if it’s his throwing arm it’s pretty bad to have a serious shoulder injury followed by a wrist injury, it may take a king time to build up realy arm strength
Is riding a motorcycle a violation based on his contract?
We do not know the specifics of his contract, but in the UPC riding a motorcycle on the street is not A dirt bike off road is definitely a violation.
To padre fans out there hasn’t tatis had multiple wrist injuries in recent years now ? If so that isn’t good as I’m afraid it might become chronic but I hope I’m wrong as he’s great for the game (and you guys of course)
See, this is an issue I didn’t see anybody talking about during the CBA wars – players agreeing to multi-year guarantees, but still engaging in high-risk recreational activities. It isn’t right – it isn’t reasonable.
Fernando Tatis Jr. injury history:
July 2018: season-ending surgery (thumb)
August 2019: season-ending back injury
April 2021: left shoulder subluxation
July 2021: 2nd left shoulder subluxation (misses 32 games that season)
March 2022: fractured wrist (expected to miss a few months)
And yet he remained still an MVP contender.
Forgot the leg injury in April 2019
@rodcannon … he also had the shoulder issue before he signed, and then again in the minors.
Padres are surely in disbelief and dreading that they signed him to that contract. They will be lucky if they get 3 good years from Tatis. Good grief
I don’t think that’s a true statement as he puts up huge numbers in a partial season. He is a top 5 player, a five tool player.
I’m sure he won’t miss 3 months, and when he makes it back he will be on fire
Relax, Charlie Brown.
you know what’s funny? all the sheep who moronically chirp about how selfish it is not to get vaccinated. THIS… THIS RIGHT HERE is the ESSENCE of selfishness. i can’t believe the team wouldn’t have something like riding a freaking motorcycle expressly forbidden in his country. but you know what, in the wake of 2020, the inmates run the asylum & even if such language WAS in the contract, do you think a sports team in an era of coddling superstars would enforce any penalties? TAKE A WILD FREAKING GUESS.
watch this entitled little punk come back & dislocate his shoulder he refused to get operated on within weeks. the freaking city of San Diego FINALLY has the ability to compete in baseball with big markets & this little brat is gaslighting all of it. THANKS FOR NOTHING FERNANDO.
Most sports contracts in MLB, NHL, NFL, etc. have a hazardous activities clause in their contracts. A standard MLB one from the 2016 CBA: The Player and the Club recognize and agree that the Player’s participation in certain other sports may impair or destroy his ability and skill as a baseball player. Accordingly, the Player agrees that he will not engage in professional boxing or wrestling; and that, except with the written consent of the Club, he will not engage in skiing, auto racing, motorcycle racing, sky diving, or in any game or exhibition of football, soccer, professional league basketball, ice hockey or other sport involving a substantial risk of personal injury.
Motorcycle racing, not riding. It also includes off road activities including ATV and dirt bikes. Even horses.
When MadBum did this – the FO basically just gave him a pass – I mean, at that point, what the hell were they gonna do – it was already spilt milk.
He was never the same pitcher after that…
And now you have to wonder – how much wear and tear has his (entire) body been accumulating with all those spills. Hmmm…..
This is what I have been crying about since free agency was introduced. No financial risk for the players. Now the Padres still have to pay a ton of money for zero output. Tatis does something this stupid, he should have to forfeit a percentage of his pay. He owes SD, but NOOOOOOO! He has a CON-tract.
You’re not wrong, except that Tatis was never a free agent, and the Padres dug their own grave by doling out the contract well before necessary.
That’s what I’ll NEVER get about that deal. He was 5+ years from free agency. If he earned $50-60M or so before before free agency, you’re on the hook for almost $300M. Even if they lost him, I’m sure there are places they could have found for that money.
Not to mention, for a team who have cried “small market” too many times in the past, it completely reset the early extension market by leaps and bounds.
Math-My bad, I guess I should have complained about it as a risky long term contract. The Padres did make the offer, after all. And that takes the CON out of CON-tract. Thanks for pointing this out to me, I stand corrected.
actually, in retrospect (even with recent injury), the contract with Tatis was a complete steal by Padres management. They get a top 5 player for 14 years for an annual salary that now is being granted to top 100 players.
This is why I don’t choose him on fantasy baseball. Guy is super frail.
@pwndroia And it would be completely fair to ask if this has been a contributing factor – to say the least.
…to the pre-existing frailty issues, I mean.
what a moron!
“…he’d fallen off his motorcycle multiple times throughout the winter.”
Dude signed a 14 year / $340,000,000 contract and he fell off his motorcycle “multiple” times? Now he finds out he fractured his wrist possibly months ago?
The minute my ass fell of my motorcycle and I felt pain in my wrist (or any other body part), I would rush to the hospital to have it checked out.
This is not good. Wow.
He was examined at the time of the accident in December. Read the articles about it.
He just couldn’t talk to the team or team doctors about it because of the lockout. Even if it was broken since then, he could not have surgery because that could void his contract if he did that without consulting team doctors first.
You are right that its not good. Not being able to see a top player in the game on the field after 3 months of the lockout is not good at all. I want to see the best play and he is one of the most exciting baseball players.
That’s crazy. Surely a diagnosing non team doctor can talk to a team doctor ?
Is San Diego having buyers remorse yet?
This may very well make the Stanton deal look like a cake walk in comparison….may very well go down as the worst contract in the recent history of MLB. Cue the Rock Star GM rock music…..
His intermittent athleticism and baseball ability looks like it will be a roller coaster ride based on his inability to stay healthy whether its because of baseball injuries or off season injuries he incurs.
It sucks for Padres fans. It sucks for his Padres teammates. It sucks for the Padres FO. And it sucks for MLB itself. It’s all-around terrible.
Was it mentioned HOW he broke it?
On one hand you should be able to enjoy your life in the off season. On the other hand doing risky activities is a big no no as tatis in this case seems to have forgotten that he is a massive long term investment by his ownership and it’s his responsibility to protect himself
Yes, except there’s no way he wasn’t/isn’t fully aware of those things.
The Padres are better suited than most to be able to cover for the loss but it’s becoming a thing with Tatis and injuries and that should be both concerning and disappointing for the Padres
Another Joel Zumya 10 cent head and multi million dollar arm
Stupid Contract for a Stupid Player.
Transition year anyway.
Let me guess greedy owner has to pay him to not play for 3 months While he was dicking around on a motorcycle
Boot his lying ass to the curb, Pads, and get your $300M back.
Seems appropriate to just cut and paste this here:
Its because there was a lockout. You know, the last 3 months. Where were you?
It is against the Uniform Player Contract to have surgery without consulting a team doctor and that was not possible during the lockout. Tatis’ contract could have been voided if he did, During the lockout he could not even talk to team doctors or FO, let alone have them examine the injury.
The team learned of the severity of the injury when Tatis was examined by team doctors on the 1st day that it was possible, yesterday.
Tone down the haterade a bit.
Surprised he owned up to the truth. It falls completely out of line with the character he has displayed up to this point. Maybe there’s hope for him after all…
We’ll see what happens when Abrahms lays claim to SS. Will Nando continue his progress, or revert to he has shown us so far?
That you can’t even spell Abrams’ name says volumes about how little you know about the situation.
That you sit and wait for people to spell names incorrectly speaks volumes to what you are.
Lol. Keep spinning your swaggy chain, Buddy
Enlighten me. What bad character has Tatis exhibited to this point?
At least he said he was riding the motorcycle unlike Jeff Kent saying he was washing it.
I am pissed! I have been clamoring for over a year now that somebody would give Eric Hosmer and ATV so we can go have a crash in a non baseball-related injury…
They delivered it to the wrong person!
Local news sources are saying that this break is old, I hope the Padres decide to withhold the pro-rated $5,000,000 until he is playing and earning it. Giving it to him will just teach him a bad lesson and give him a precedent.
This may give other free agents pause in signing with the Padres being that Tatis won’t be playing.
He’s already proven that he is irresponsible, sleeping around with the groupie that pegged Trevor Bauer…
Dude is glass. Strasburg 2.0.
So, if the players hadn’t been locked out, the Padres might have learned about the injury months ago and had a chance to get the ball rolling on surgery and rehab much sooner.
I doubt the Pads were the loudest proponent of the lockout, but still, a little schadenfreude stirs in my heart.
He could have got the ball rolling on his own. Don’t let an inconvenient thing like reality get in the way of your ignorance.
When you’re made of glass no injury is minor.
Please note, the lockout MADE NO DIFFERENCE in the fact that Fernando Tatis Jr:
•Rode and crashed a motorized bike
•His agents assured the club it was “scrapes and bruises”
•He did not seek medical attention and follow up
•Continued to avoid addressing the issue until organized team activities even though he admitted pain going back many weeks
Placing blame anywhere but on the Tatis camp is foolish. Tatis is not a child in age and in income.
Hey, you know Tatis and his camp are just keepin it real man……sign one of the richest contracts in Baseball before he even played what 2 whole seasons, but he shows his immaturity by insisting that money aside, he still wants to live his life the way he wants…..the epitome of a me first attitude rather than team first which seems to be the hallmark of many of todays athletes.
Right when you think the Padres front office can’t sink any lower you find out they gave away a $340 million contract with no clauses to protect their investment.
#rockstargm
Didn’t put the team first. No need to take such risks riding a motorbike. Yes, could have had an accident in a car too, but you don’t normally fall out of the car door too easily. Risk analysis of injury higher on a bike. Sorry, no sympathy for Tatis Jr.
Depending on when he broke the bone and the treatment he’s done to this point – 3 months is possible. But, I broke the same bone in my hand years ago and it took about 8-9 months to “fully heal” but a year for it to heal to where I could go about my normal life again (powerlifting and strength training). It’s a bone that gets very poor blood flow so it isn’t a quick heal like a broken wrist. Obviously, different bodies and Tatis is a world-class athlete with access to a far superior medical team than I had, but 3 months is best case scenario. If he properly rested it and at least put his hand in a brace since December, then maybe 3 months happens. Hope for the best for this kid, love watching him play.
After the surgery, can he still ride the bike?
I had a similar injury as a teenager. They took a bone graph from my hip and put it in my wrist. I played baseball with a cast on most of the summer. The hip hurt more than the wrist. My mom had to force me to get an X-ray as even though it hurt I was still able to do most things without pain. It turned out that the break was an old break and the bone had deteriorated which is why I required a bone graph. It feels like you jammed your wrist not like a break or fracture.
I really hope CJ comes in, rakes, and takes his place. Then trade that selfish china doll and start to reload the farm system again.
Padres and AJ Preller have been very poor in managing their star player Tatis Jr.
Tatis Jr should have had shoulder surgery in October to be ready for Sprint Training.
Where are the clauses in Tatis Jr’s contract liming the Padres 300M man from risky and dangerous physical activities like motorcycle riding, sky diving and extreme sports activities outside of MLB?! What kind of insurance do the Padres have on Tatis’s contract etc?!
Otherwise, Tatis’s risky behavior will be a recurring trainwreck for the Padres.
Fernando Tatis Jr. is an issue in the Padres’ clubhouse. But that is a conversation that I don’t think Padres fans are ready for yet.
I’ve respected your takes for years, Jim. Enlighten us!
Yes I’d like to know how he’s been an issue in the clubhouse, please tell.
You don’t pay attention, do you? There were a few rumblings about his attitude, and it culminated with Machado getting in his face in the dugout. Or, did you miss that, too?
Plus the Luis Urias shirt-grabbing incident from early 2019.
Hope he makes a full recovery for the Padres sake, that contract is a franchise killer if he doesn’t return to form
Returning to half his form is still better than 90% of MLB players. He will return to form, the issue is not having him in the lineup
that 90% are not getting paid $300m
What an idiot. Completely let’s down his team, teammates and fans. Selfish sense of entitlement.
The fact that he reportedly fell off it multiple times during the offseason is the real black mark. Not once after any of those falls did it occur to him “You know, maybe I shouldn’t be doing this”. He had his chances. On top of that, he was stupid enough to not think “Let me just get an MRI to be 100% sure everything is okay”.
If I were a Padres fan, I would not be happy at all.
Coming off the bike is ok with me. Lockout or no lockout, letting a scaphoid injury go chronic in a professional athlete that uses his wrists for a living……criminal.