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Luis Castillo Drawing Widespread Interest; Reds Not Close To Any Deal

By Anthony Franco | July 12, 2022 at 8:37am CDT

July 12: The Reds aren’t close to any trades as of this morning, tweets Jim Bowden of The Athletic, who adds that “most” contending clubs have checked in on Cincinnati. That includes both the Cardinals and the Mariners, who have not been prominently linked to Castillo until this point (but who both make logical sense as a potential landing spot).

July 11: The Dodgers and Reds have had preliminary talks about Cincinnati starter Luis Castillo, reports Jon Morosi of MLB.com (Twitter link). Los Angeles joins a growing list of contenders known to be in contact with the Reds front office.

Castillo is one of the sport’s most obvious trade candidates, placing fourth on MLBTR’s Top 50 list last week. The right-hander is arbitration-eligible through 2023, but Cincinnati has no hope of competing this season. With the opportunity to market two possible postseason pushes to contenders, Castillo’s value around the league will never be higher than it is this summer. Teams like the Twins, Padres, Mets, Yankees, and Blue Jays have all been reported to have inquired in recent weeks. That’s presumably not an exhaustive list, as virtually every contender is likely to check in with Cincinnati general manager Nick Krall and his staff.

The 29-year-old Castillo carries a personal-best 2.92 ERA through his first 12 starts of the season. He’s been in peak form of late, tossing 20 innings of three-run ball with 25 strikeouts and five walks over his past three outings. Of course, Castillo has a multi-year track record as one of the sport’s better pitchers. He’s allowed fewer than four earned runs per nine innings in five of his six big league campaigns. One of the game’s hardest throwers, he typically blends a rare combination of swing-and-miss and ground-ball upside. This season’s respective 25.3% strikeout rate and 49.7% grounder percentage are both down a bit from his best levels, but each remains decidedly above-average.

Castillo missed the first month of this season with shoulder soreness. That set him off on a less than ideal start, but he’s rounded into form over the past few weeks. Although his fastball velocity was down a tick in May, he’s built arm strength as the season has worn on. According to Statcast, Castillo has averaged 97.7 MPH on his four-seam and 97.1 MPH on his sinker through his two starts this month. That’s in line with or better than last year’s respective 97.1 MPH and 97.3 MPH season averages, seemingly putting away any concerns clubs might’ve had stemming from his early-season injury.

Alongside teammate Tyler Mahle and A’s hurler Frankie Montas, Castillo is one of three high-octane controllable starters widely expected to be available at the deadline. Mahle is on the 15-day injured list with a shoulder strain, while Montas is dealing with some shoulder inflammation. Mahle has indicated he expects to be reinstated well in advance of the August 2 deadline, though, and the A’s remain hopeful that Montas can avoid the IL entirely and start this week (link via Matt Kawahara of the San Francisco Chronicle). Even if all three pitchers are healthy, one could argue for Castillo to land the strongest return based on his track record and recent dominance.

The Reds are understandably setting their sights high in discussions. Jon Heyman of the New York reports that Cincinnati has sought one of Anthony Volpe or Oswald Peraza as a headliner in talks with the Yankees. Each player is a top shortstop prospect, with Volpe topping the Yankees’ farm rankings and placing among the 15 best farmhands leaguewide at each of Baseball America, FanGraphs, ESPN and the Athletic heading into the 2022 season. Peraza is generally regarded as the second or third-best player in the New York system; he landed second in the organization and 79th overall on BA’s recent Top 100 update.

It’s hard to envision New York parting with Volpe in any trade, but a player of Peraza’s caliber is a reasonable starting point for the Cincinnati front office. The Blue Jays sent the Twins two prospects generally regarded as top 100 talents (Austin Martin and Simeon Woods-Richardson) for a year and a half of José Berríos’ services last summer. Martin was a somewhat divisive player but just a season removed from being drafted fifth and ranked by most outlets as a top 50 overall talent at the time of the deal.

Peraza isn’t having a great season offensively in Triple-A (.242/.313/.411 through 275 plate appearances), but he’s young for the level, having just turned 22. He’s viewed as a strong defensive player, and the Yankees’ belief in he and Volpe was cited frequently as a reason for the club declining to aggressively pursue the big-ticket free agent shortstops available last winter.

Whether or not the Yankees are willing to entertain the possibility of putting Peraza in a Castillo trade, the lofty reported ask reflects the Reds’ leverage in dangling an arm of his caliber. They’ll certainly look towards the upper ranks of the farm systems of other clubs inquiring over the next few weeks. In all likelihood, talks with myriad teams will continue until the days immediately preceding the deadline and perhaps into August 2 itself.

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  1. mrshyguy99

    3 years ago

    Are the reds the new As? Seem like they never keep talent

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    • HalosHeavenJJ

      3 years ago

      Nah, the Reds actually spent money once. And they don’t win as much.

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    • YourDreamGM

      3 years ago

      Only poorly ran teams keep expiring talent with no chance of contending.

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      • HalosHeavenJJ

        3 years ago

        As an Angels fan I’m clearly aware of this.

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        • redsorbust

          3 years ago

          Hi. I am a Reds fan. Only team I feel sorrier for is your Angels. Having
          Trout and Othani wither on the vine all these years without spending serious bucks on pitching is sad.

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        • Dbird777

          3 years ago

          They tried to spend on pitching. Just the ones they wanted, the Mets, Yankees and Dodgers wanted even more.

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        • lee cousins

          3 years ago

          The thing is this lack of pitching is staring them in the face, how can they not recognize it? year in and year out they have these journeyman pitchers if for nothing else they might draft and develop them. look at the difference with the Mariners have made.

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    • cubsmetsbrewers

      3 years ago

      Who are you thinking of that has left

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    • 17dizzy

      3 years ago

      Castillo will be in Yankee Pinstripes in August.

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  2. HalosHeavenJJ

    3 years ago

    Could I interest you in one Thor?

    Wouldn’t even need a plane ticket to join you.

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    • Shrutefarm

      3 years ago

      He would be significantly cheaper too.

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  3. Neon Cop

    3 years ago

    Don’t see this happening tbh. Plenty of other teams are more desperate for starting pitching.

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    • YourDreamGM

      3 years ago

      Other teams were more desperate for Scherzer last year.

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      • Neon Cop

        3 years ago

        Possibly, but who actually checked in on him? Seems like the Padres rumor was just there to drive up the price.

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  4. Captain Judge99

    3 years ago

    If the Reds are expecting Oswald Peraza in a trade with the Yankees for Luis Castillo, it’s definitely not happening. Volpe and Dominguez will likely not be traded either. This is surprising because the Yankees have so many other prospects to dangle. I hope the Reds get what they really need for Castillo. I wish them my very best. The Yankees would definitely trade Dominguez and Peraza + for Juan Soto though.

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    • YourDreamGM

      3 years ago

      Yeah yeah we got it. You will take Andujar and a 40 grade prospect or we aren’t trading.

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    • Dbird777

      3 years ago

      Yeah, without any of the top three, the Reds will definitely be looking elsewhere. I just hope the Yankees pitching staff isn’t in shambles come September.

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      • LeapingLenny

        3 years ago

        I think a lot of us are waaay overconfident that guys like Taillon and Super Mario can go thru an entire season pitching as they have. And then into October?

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    • ShawnM 2

      3 years ago

      Dominguez is dropping down prospect boards. As a Reds fan, I wouldn’t want him as the headliner in a trade.

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      • Captain Judge99

        3 years ago

        @ShawnM 2- sorry to break it to you. You we’re never getting Jasson Dominguez anyway. No Volpe or Peraza either. No worries.

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        • ksoze

          3 years ago

          Sounds like your never going to get Castillo.

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        • Jonthunder

          3 years ago

          Well, Dominguez would be a huge overpay, and the Reds wouldn’t be stupid enough to ask for him.

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        • Prospectnvstr

          3 years ago

          Captainjudge: Yeah, we get it. None of your top prospects are available for 1.5 years of service for one of the best starting pitchers over the past few years.

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        • Captain Judge99

          3 years ago

          @ksoze- Sounds like you can keep him.

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        • Captain Judge99

          3 years ago

          @Prospectnvstr- exactly none of our top 3 prospects are available to the Reds. So let Castillo go to the Dodgers. The Yankees will live.

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      • Jonthunder

        3 years ago

        Good: it would be an overpay for Castillo.

        It’s been great to watch Jasson vastly improve his plate discipline, month-over-month, has been awesome.

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      • mrmackey

        3 years ago

        You won’t get him so no need to worry.

        I could see Peraza being a possibility because the Yankees are very deep in SS/middle IF prospects.

        Something like Peraza and one of the pitching prospects (like say Randy Vazquez) would be a very good starting point and probably not too far off.

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        • Captain Judge99

          3 years ago

          @mrmackey- I hear you but Peraza is viewed as the Yankees shortstop of the future. The plan is to have Volpe play 2nd base, Sweeney play 3rd base and to have Wells either catching or playing lst base. I hear Castillo will be traded to the Dodgers, right after the all-star game. We’ll see.

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        • mrmackey

          3 years ago

          Would they mind letting IKF stay there for a bit longer? They’ve got Arias, Sweeny and Vargas in their system beyond Volpe. I like Peraza but wonder how much better he’d be than IKF right now, and they should be in a win-now mode.

          I just don’t trust fatigue not catching up to guys like Nestor and Severino, and Taillon has been off for over a month now.

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        • Captain Judge99

          3 years ago

          @mrmackey- a lot of what you said makes a lot of sense. Definitely thinking IKF will stay as the starting shortstop until Peraza is ready for the majors. I don’t think either player will be traded. Not sure why but I can see Luis Castillo joining the Yankees right after his start on Thursday, basically leaving the dugout of the Reds and walking over to the Yankees dugout via trade. Everson Pereira, Ken Waldichuk, Randy Vasquez, Alexander Vargas, and the Will Warren going back to the Reds. We’ll see.

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    • Yanks2

      3 years ago

      I don’t think Dominguez + Peraza would be enough to acquire Soto

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      • Captain Judge99

        3 years ago

        @Yanks2- it obviously would be more then just Dominguez and Peraza. Anthony Volpe would not be involved in a Juan Soto trade though.

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        • hyraxwithaflamethrower

          3 years ago

          If you have a chance to get a guy who compares well with Ted Williams for his age, I think it’s silly to say any prospect is off the board. Soto is better than Sale, yet the White Sox got the #1 overall prospect at the time (and then some) for Sale. You need to get it through your head that being in the Yankees’ system doesn’t automatically make any prospect 3x more valuable.

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        • LeapingLenny

          3 years ago

          No. AND…..the rankings put Yankee prospects higher than they should be? So why do they not ever have a #1?

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        • S_man_2014

          3 years ago

          To be fair, most fan base overrates/overhype their team’s prospects.

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        • hyraxwithaflamethrower

          3 years ago

          Maybe, but not to the degree Yankee fans do. When Eloy was coming up, I didn’t think he should be rated more highly than Vlad, Jr. I could see a few opportunities where I’d have been willing to trade Eloy. If I’d had the chance to trade Eloy + for Soto, I’d have jumped on it rather than claiming an unproven Eloy was better.

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        • LeapingLenny

          3 years ago

          Ok but, once again, fans do not make the rankings. They are put out independent of team loyalties. If a Yankee fan is pushing a #15 ranked prospect for a superstar with no past history to show that to be reasonable then that fan should be called out.

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      • Jonthunder

        3 years ago

        I think Volpe or Dominguez HAS to lead that deal.

        The Nationals would be perfectly reasonable to ask for that, as well.

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        • hyraxwithaflamethrower

          3 years ago

          I think it’s reasonable to ask for both. He’s not a FA until after 2024. But agree that I don’t see the Nationals doing any deal for Soto to the Yanks that doesn’t have at least one of those two. There’d be better offers from other teams.

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        • Jonthunder

          3 years ago

          I bet Washington is fully aware that the Yankees will need 1 of the 2, long-term, and supplement the deal with other players.

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    • tbonenats

      3 years ago

      Lol. Velope, Peraza and Dominguez wouldn’t be enough for Soto.

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      • Captain Judge99

        3 years ago

        @tbonenats- maybe Soto can have a better year next year to be traded? Lol. The Yankees have plenty of prospects to give the Nationals without giving up Volpe. Dominguez, Peraza, Schmidt, Vasquez, and Sweeney for Soto.

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        • Dan Rogers

          3 years ago

          It’s comical how much yankee fans over value their prospects. I get annoyed at my fellow Braves fans for this but it’s nothing compared to the sort of drivel above.

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        • LeapingLenny

          3 years ago

          Hey if the Braves have someone ranked as high as Volpe they SHOULD consider think of them highly.

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        • Jonthunder

          3 years ago

          These aren’t fan rankings; they are the premiere prospect evaluators.

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        • LeapingLenny

          3 years ago

          Exactly. Thank you!

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        • tbonenats

          3 years ago

          Lol…Soto has been great the past month. If you’re going on just the first half and not track record then I’m sure you’d be happy to trade the farm for Drury or Swanson.

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      • LeapingLenny

        3 years ago

        LOL. Who is Velope?

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        • Jonthunder

          3 years ago

          An imaginary player that non-Yankees fans created specifically to hate lol.

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        • mrmackey

          3 years ago

          En Velope.

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    • Bobcastelliniscat

      3 years ago

      You are correct Luis Castillo will not be pitching for New York. The Yankees balked at Volpe the Yankees made a counter offer and then the Reds balked at Peraza. The Reds now have a deal in place with the Dodgers. The Reds want to wait until after the All-Star game to announce the trade.

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      • whyhayzee

        3 years ago

        mlb.com runs nine articles at a time and almost always there’s one on Volpe and one on Dominguez. Probably because I live in NJ, but it’s a pathetic homerism by them. Very rarely anything on the Mets. And even when the Yankees lose, it’s more about them than the team that beat them. Again, I’m guessing it’s different for the rest of the country that doesn’t give a flying fig about the Yankees, but it’s a pretty pathetic site in these parts.

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        • LeapingLenny

          3 years ago

          Even NJ.com ignores the Mutts compared to the Yanks. And good. $crew the Mutts.

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        • whyhayzee

          3 years ago

          Yes, it would be much better if the Giants and the Dodgers were still in New York.

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      • titanic struggle

        3 years ago

        I don’t see them announcing anything that quickly. The Dodgers may have made a nice offer, but they’ll likley hold him until August 1st or 2nd. They hold all the chips with La Piedra, and you never know what team may be willing to sweeten the pot at the last minute. Also, I’ve read on here that the return will be close to what the Jays gave up for Berrios last season and I completely disagree with that. This is about supply and demand. The demand is there, but the supply of difference makers is thin. My suggestion to Krall and company.. Be outrageous.

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      • Captain Judge99

        3 years ago

        @Bobcastelliniscat- that’s incorrect. Peraza was never offered in a Castillo trade. Sorry you’re wrong.

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    • Mystery Team

      3 years ago

      I think the Nats would have to be blown away to trade Soto. Me personally I’m not a big Soto guy he walks too much and I’d rather my 3 or 4 drive in more runs and get more hits for my money. Like I always say you can’t drive a run in from second with a walk. If he was my leadoff guy I would love those walks but with a man on first and second and two outs down two drawing a walk is not what I’d want out of a guy with a bat like that hitting out of the three or four hole he hunts walks too much and at times it’s a detriment.

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      • pohle

        3 years ago

        so put him at the top of your lineup

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    • redsorbust

      3 years ago

      Hi Captain. You might be right about what they give up. On the other side of the coin how long has it been since your vaunted Yankees went to the WS and won? 2009? That’s a long time especially for Yankees. Castillo would be a great insurance policy. Pitchers go down all the time and we are only half way thru the year. Maybe Castillo goes to Boston or Tampa Bay. Anything can happen in a short playoff series. Your owner has deep pockets. Even if your minor leagues take a hit you have the money to go out and buy pretty much whatever you need. If I am a Yankee fan I say make a trade even if it really stings as I prefer the sound of the band marching down main street after winning the WS.

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    • stymeedone

      3 years ago

      Remember when Pache and Waters were top 100 prospects? Rankings and reality don’t always match. Always trade the “might be” for the “already is” when looking for that last piece. Peraza and Volpe MAY help in the future. They aren’t going to change anything NOW. Plus, having both makes one expendable.

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      • tbonenats

        3 years ago

        Exactly. As a Nats fan I’m all too familiar with this. Robles was a top 5 prospect. Keiboom was top 30. Gracia was top 70. We’ve had a bunch of others that were fringe top 100. Yankees have also had similar issues as the Nats in developing these top tier prospects.

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  5. dodgerskingsfan

    3 years ago

    Geez what a shock. Dodgers had preliminary talks with reds about castillo. Wonder how far those talks went.

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    • jk

      3 years ago

      Friedman just trying to rip them off again

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    • Shrutefarm

      3 years ago

      My guess is….not very.

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      • tstats

        3 years ago

        Go bruins

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    • Bobcastelliniscat

      3 years ago

      A deal is in place.

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  6. seamaholic 2

    3 years ago

    What is the freakin’ deal with Volpe? He’s not that good. Of course he’s available.

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    • Bobcastelliniscat

      3 years ago

      The Reds asked for Volpe. The Yankees refused. The Yankees countered with Peraza and the Reds balked. The Dodgers and Reds have a deal in place Castillo but won’t announce it until after the AS game. I don’t know who the Dodgers are sending to Cincinnati.

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    • LeapingLenny

      3 years ago

      His rankings speak otherwise. He’s a stud.

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    • Mystery Team

      3 years ago

      He’s not that good?? Lol tell that to the list of teams that have tried acquiring him for the last two years. I like Volpe a lot he’s a super talented kid with speed and power who had a bad stretch of games but has come out of it and is back on track. I wouldn’t trade him for Castillo or any other pitcher on the market right now. Not to mention the Yankees don’t need a starter they need a CF with a solid bat.

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      • rondon

        3 years ago

        By all means, hang onto your prospect who has done nothing in the majors in favor of a proven major league stud who would absolutely make the Yankees better.

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        • pohle

          3 years ago

          and by all means, wish on that CF as your pitching staff crumbles as we get closer to october

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      • redsorbust

        3 years ago

        Pitching wins games. Pitchers can easily get hurt and go down. Maybe Castillo goes to say Boston or Tampa Bay for example. Anything can happen in a short playoff series. If I am a Yankee fan I trade Volpe and others for Castillo in a heartbeat assuming Reds want another SS. They have plenty right now. Maybe Volpe is that good. Point is any team in the WS hunt knows they will have to overpay for a talent like Castillo. If not Yankees then another team will surely cough up the goods.

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    • JoeBrady

      3 years ago

      seamaholic 2
      What is the freakin’ deal with Volpe? He’s not that good
      ==============================
      Care to explain why you think he is not that good? He has a .784 OPS in AA at having just turned 21. Good glove. Good plate control. That’s why he is ranked #11 overall.

      Anything you see that suggests otherwise?

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    • Jonthunder

      3 years ago

      You should Google him before posting.

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  7. case

    3 years ago

    Why does Mahle keep getting mentioned alongside Castillo and Montas? That’s two top of the rotation starters that should perform well against playoff caliber competition and a guy whose peak performance is one year with an era in the high 3’s.

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    • Mystery Team

      3 years ago

      I’ve been asking the same question. He doesn’t impress me at all he’s been okay and bad but never great.

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    • JoeBrady

      3 years ago

      case
      Why does Mahle keep getting mentioned alongside Castillo and Montas?
      ===============================
      Mahle’s fWAR over the past 3 seasons ranks him #19 among all pitchers. I’d prefer Castillo or Montas, but Mahle is plenty good.

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  8. Poster formerly known as . . .

    3 years ago

    If the Reds are smart, we’ll be hearing rumors of talks with every remotely feasible trade partner to leverage their negotiations.

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    • RedLegJason

      3 years ago

      The Reds aren’t smart

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  9. Shrutefarm

    3 years ago

    Nothing to see here…
    Reds will be asking for a king’s ransom for Castillo, as they should. There are at least 7 teams that will be competing for his services.

    The Dodgers will not be spending the, at minimum, 2-4 quality prospects that Castillo will fend. LA has 4+ quality starters on the active roster right now that are putting up similar or better numbers than Castillo. Plus, Beuhler, Heaney and May will be back.

    Castillo is great, but the Dodgers don’t have the need right now for a starting pitcher like they did last year

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    • jonbluvin

      3 years ago

      I don’t see a team trading 4 quality prospects for a year and a half of Castillo. Look what the Dodgers sent out last year for Max and Trea. Washington got 2 quality prospects and a couple of throw ins. I think 2 is reasonable if they aren’t the top players in a system. The Dodgers have 7 in the newly released BA top 100 and I don’t see them parting with the top 4 of those guys. I wonder how much Castillo’s injury earlier in the year will affect his price.

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      • tbonenats

        3 years ago

        Agreed. Castillo is good, but not amazing. I’d think a top 50ish prospect plus a top 80-120 type with maybe a 17 year old lottery ticket attached would be enough.

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        • Henry Silvestre

          3 years ago

          Yup top 50ish + a young P (or P spec in the low 100s ) + another spec… using Padres (my team/because I am familiar) it would be something like Campusano + Wethers (his Dad was a long time Red) + Pads #19 P spec Efrain Contreras … or there abouts

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        • ksoze

          3 years ago

          Why would you trade Castillo for a top 50 guy, plus a 100? The Reds could keep him for a year and a half more, and still get a Comp A pick. The only way you trade him is if you get a sure fire, can’t miss guy plus. The only real question is which team needs him the most.

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        • jonbluvin

          3 years ago

          @ksoze. A top 50 player plus a top 100 beats out a Comp A pick by a mile. Don’t forget, if the union and MLB agree on an international draft then comp picks are gone for good. The reason the Reds would trade him now is to get a nice haul of prospects while his value is still high. It’s not like the Reds are going to win anything soon. That organization is a mess right now and it’s run by tone deaf owner’s son.

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        • Bobcastelliniscat

          3 years ago

          Castillo has a sub 3.00 era while pitching in a bandbox. He is recognized to have the best change up
          In baseball and his fastball in consistently in the high 90s. He is amazing.

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        • jbryant0693

          3 years ago

          @Henry Campusano and Wood maybe, but Weathers won’t be that supplemental guy in the package. Need two top 100s at least.

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        • leftyr32

          3 years ago

          This trade isn’t an owner mandated salary dump. They should get more for Castillo than most people think. This trade will tell if Krall really does suck. The fire sale in March he was negotiating with one hand tied behind his back and he still actually got three real promising young pitchers in Williamson, Phillips and Petty.

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        • ksoze

          3 years ago

          You left out the 1 1/2 year of having Castillo lead your rotation. So no it doesn’t beat it out by a mile.

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        • jonbluvin

          3 years ago

          @ksoze The Reds are not winning anything, so having Castillo in your rotation for another year and a half is irrelevant.

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      • Shrutefarm

        3 years ago

        All good points, but this year the market for quality SP is really thin and there will be teams such as Yankees, BJays, RSox, Twins, Mets, Cardinals and others that will be competing with each other and driving up the price.

        ***everything is overpriced these days

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        • jonbluvin

          3 years ago

          @BRUINBLUW It will be interesting to see what teams are desperate enough to overpay. The playoffs are a crapshoot that favors the hot teams., especially now with the expanded playoffs. I don’t see the Dodgers or Yankees shooting their wads. Maybe the Phillies with Dombrowski will overpay. He’s done it in the past.

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      • Mystery Team

        3 years ago

        I think the Yankees are in the same boat as the Dodgers although the Dodger’s prospects are a bit better but both have enough to trade for anyone including Soto yet neither will be shelling out what the Reds want for Castillo they just don’t need the arms that badly.

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    • redsorbust

      3 years ago

      You might be right about the Dodgers not needed pitching right now. However pitching wins games and Castillo would be a great insurance policy. Pitchers go down all the time and we are only half way thru the year. Maybe Castillo goes to Giants or Padres. Anything can happen in a short playoff series. Dodgers have deep pockets. Even if their minor leagues take a hit they have the money to go out and buy pretty much whatever they need. If I am a Dodger fan I say make a trade even if it really stings as I prefer the sound of the band marching down main street after winning the WS.

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    • UWPSUPERFAN77

      3 years ago

      You make a lot of good points. However, you never know how much the Dodgers are willing to spend. Al least they do not have to pay
      Bauer for a while.

      Reply
  10. tedtheodorelogan

    3 years ago

    Still can’t believe the Giants traded this guy for Casey friggin McGehee.

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    • Shrutefarm

      3 years ago

      Wow, I wasn’t aware of that.

      Not quite as bad as Yordan Alvarez for Josh Fields, but it’s up there lol

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      • Freddie Morales

        3 years ago

        nothing beats trading Tatis Jr for James Shields

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        • Mystery Team

          3 years ago

          Where’s Tatis now? At least at the time the White Sox needed the starter badly and got one plus Tatis wasn’t a huge prospect at that time. I think Tatis is easily one of the most talented players I’ve ever seen but I fear his health will always be an issue plus he doesn’t seem to smart.

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        • UWPSUPERFAN77

          3 years ago

          Needs to quit being a Paul Molitor #2! If he keeps getting injured, all the time, he will become a DH for most of his career! Too much talent not to be on the field.

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    • mlb1225

      3 years ago

      And then from the Marlins to the Reds for Dan Straily.

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      • Dbird777

        3 years ago

        Before that, they tried to trade him to the Padres. Thanks to Preller’s notorious chicanery, it fell through lolol

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      • Bobcastelliniscat

        3 years ago

        Castillo was just an average pitcher until he learned to throw a change up. He learned the pitch from the Red’s Mario Soto. Now, he has the best change up in baseball.

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    • gmenfan

      3 years ago

      Just add him to the list of Francisco Liriano and Zach Wheeler. Sabean, Sabean, Sabean …

      Reply
      • tstats

        3 years ago

        Bryan Reynolds it was that a different regime?

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        • gmenfan

          3 years ago

          I guess that was technically Evans and Sabean at that point.

          Reply
  11. Cap & Crunch

    3 years ago

    The Reds just need to stop dealing with the Dodgers , been bitten too many times over the last 5+ years

    Dodgers just need a Sp 5 to soak up some inns till Sept. Even Jose Q might be too pricey for me today

    If they are too spend capital Id hope it would be on a good RP who was some control left behind him

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    • HalosHeavenJJ

      3 years ago

      May I interest you in a Riesel Iglesias? His velocity goes up when the crowd is pumping him up, he’s battle tested, and has 3 years remaining.

      Angels could kick in some cash.

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      • Cap & Crunch

        3 years ago

        No way Jose; paying Rps 8 figure AAV multiple years is a thing of the past Imo for this front office

        Was thinking arb years, tho I do think Angels should explore that possibility with other teams –

        Take back Will Meyers to help SD’s 2022 CBT limbo would be a good start to a deal. Take back Pomeranz and you might even get a good prospect or 2 back
        Really think Ana and SD line up well on so many trade fronts currently.
        Think/hope LAD is relatively silent this deadline; especially future monies owed as we will have our own 2023 Cbt issues

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        • HalosHeavenJJ

          3 years ago

          Same here. I’d be willing to take Hosmer’s contract if I was in charge. Depending on the return.

          Reply
        • Cap & Crunch

          3 years ago

          Question HHJJ-

          Would you trade Trout and Noah for Will Meyers Hosmer Pomeranz Kim Grisham Abrhams Hasell Gore + comp picks and other prospects?

          Since your taking the early dead money Ana owes zero money at end of deal – SD gets to duck 2022 CBT, and gets to clear 23′ (Pom 1/10) and beyond (Hosmer 3/39/Kim 2/14 ) for Trout incoming salary

          I think Trout would only waive for LAD or SD and I dont think LAD would do it so no real leverage here for Angels…but is that enough in the end ?

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  12. em650r

    3 years ago

    85% of this article is about the Yankees

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    • Captain Judge99

      3 years ago

      @em65or- it really shouldn’t be, because Luis Castillo is not going to be traded to the Yankees.

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      • astick

        3 years ago

        When you stop loosing your marbles for Volpe, can I get the lotto numbers? You seem to be a real Nostradamus.

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    • BlueSkies_LA

      3 years ago

      Because 85% of everything is about the Yankees, and most of the rest is about the Red Sox.

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    • Bobcastelliniscat

      3 years ago

      Yeah it’s hilarious. The Reds and Yankee talks didn’t get very far at all.

      Reply
      • rocky7

        3 years ago

        Because the Reds wanted Volpe who the Yankees will not give up for anyone…..if they fell back to Peraza, who’s probably better defensively than Volpe right now but may not have the speed and bat Volpe does, the Dodgers probably wanted additional multiple prospects who the Yankees may not have been interested in including…..do us all a favor and stop the Yankee hating!

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    • LeapingLenny

      3 years ago

      I was hoping that number will increase, actually.

      Reply
    • UWPSUPERFAN77

      3 years ago

      When you live, in a big population area,with a nationwide fan base, you have to live with it! Kind of like when I get on a roll! LOL!

      Reply
  13. jajacobs2

    3 years ago

    Honestly, I think I’d pass.

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  14. Shawn W.

    3 years ago

    I can’t think of any top prospects for L.A. to send to Cincinnati. It might have to be some combination of Lux, May, and Mitch White.

    Reply
    • Shrutefarm

      3 years ago

      The Dodgers aren’t trading Lux.

      Fun fact: right now, Gavin Lux has a similar or better slash line than the following big name infielders: ***Through last Sunday

      Alex Bregman
      Matt Chapman
      Jake Cronenworth
      Corey Seager
      Javy Baez
      Whit Merrifield
      Bo Bichette
      DJ LeMahiieu

      I’m not saying Lux is better than all these guys, I’m just pointing out that he is having a really good offensive season under the radar so far, and he’s been getting better.

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      • Cap & Crunch

        3 years ago

        Amen Bruin , just crazy talk all up in here today –

        LAD wouldn’t trade Lux straight up for Luis

        Lux is a future All star getting better every day –

        He’s at 305 avg 370 obp today with the pitch recognition of a 10 year vet already

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  15. MLB Top 100 Commenter

    3 years ago

    Michael Busch and Clayton Beeter in return for Luis Castillo.

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    • Shrutefarm

      3 years ago

      If this is all that the Reds want, I could see it happening.

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  16. RedLegJason

    3 years ago

    I’m sure other front offices see how poorly ran the Reds are and they will wait til closer to the deadline when the Reds will be desperate to take any trade they can get. I’m fully expecting the Reds to get nobody for Castillo. Similar to the returns they got for Chapman and Cueto several years back.

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    • Bobcastelliniscat

      3 years ago

      Chapman was traded because of Domestic Violence allegations. Cueto was traded two months before he became a free agent. Luis Castillo is a year and a half away from free agency. He is posting a sub 3.00 era while pitching in a ballpark that consistently leads the majors in home runs allowed.

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      • UWPSUPERFAN77

        3 years ago

        Correct! He is worth a lot more than the other 2 at the time. However, Chapman is still one of the best! he was a find for the Yanks!

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    • redsorbust

      3 years ago

      Cueto and Chapman are much different circumstances than Castillo. Also Reds are not desperate. They will have many different teams after Castillo and not just Castillo’s talents will come into play but keeping him from rivals that would be playing in a short series will also drive price up. Castillo is signed thru next year and not costing Reds that much money even if they were forced to keep him. I know the Reds need a new owner and have made some poor decisions in the past but this is a no brainer. Just sit back and wait for the offers to flood in and they will.

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  17. riffraff

    3 years ago

    Dodgers and Reds discussed Castillo trade. You would think that somewhere in the article the author might throw in a thought or two about who the dodgers might offer or reds might want instead of who the reds asked for from the Yankees and info on the yankee prospects.

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    • Bobcastelliniscat

      3 years ago

      I know it’s hilarious. The Reds and Yankees discussed a Castillo
      Trade a few weeks ago. The Reds ask for the discussion to start with Volpe. The Yankees said no and the Reds moved on. The Reds and Dodgers have a deal in place.

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  18. Rocker49

    3 years ago

    That move would really strengthen Los Karens.

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  19. Bobcastelliniscat

    3 years ago

    The Reds and Dodgers have a deal in place. They won’t announce until after the AS game. Luis Castillo has been notified and is happy to have a chance to pitch in the post-season.

    If someone tells you they know who the Reds are receiving from the Dodgers, they are lying. Well, at least if they are from Cincinnati. I assume some people know in LA.

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    • rocky7

      3 years ago

      Why would the Reds already commit to the Dodgers before waiting for other interested clubs to make their offers which may get better as we approach the All Star game….The Dodgers aren’t going to just throw an offer that can’t be topped this early and also, who told you a deal is in place already….doesn’t make a heck of a lot of sense either to wait if the deal is that good.

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    • ksoze

      3 years ago

      I hope you’re wrong, I really wanted a deal with the Jays. Their prospects lineup better with the Reds needs.

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  20. Duffy S. Cliff

    3 years ago

    For his sake, I hope Castillo gets traded. He is one of the most underrated pitchers in the game, and his best years are being wasted. It happens far too often…

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  21. titanic struggle

    3 years ago

    If the Cards call about Castillo, let it go straight to voicemail…

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  22. hyraxwithaflamethrower

    3 years ago

    It’d be bigger news if he *weren’t* receiving widespread interest. Castillo is as good as gone; it’s just a bidding war now, so I don’t expect him to go more than six hours before the deadline.

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    • KyleT

      3 years ago

      “I don’t expect him to go more than six hours before the deadline”

      Bidding teams will have moved well before then. You think the losers in the bidding war will want to scramble the last 5 hours to find a replacement? He’ll go well before that, probably over All-Star break.

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      • hyraxwithaflamethrower

        3 years ago

        How many other options are there? Mahle? Not as good. Montas? Sure, but only one team can get him, leaving the “losers” in that effort desperate. Castillo is easily the Reds’ most valuable trade chip (at least, that they’re expected to trade), so I think they milk this as long as they can. It’s always possible they’re blown away by an offer before then, but this still seems like a deadline day deal to me, with Mahle and Montas going beforehand by a week and a couple days, respectively. We’ll see.

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  23. Robertowannabe

    3 years ago

    Of course no deal has been done. Until teams get done bidding, no deal will be announced.

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  24. hiflew

    3 years ago

    Very HIGHLY unlikely that the Reds trade Castillo to the Cardinals. Just not going to happen.

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  25. whyhayzee

    3 years ago

    Enough on how the world’s greatest experts on rating prospects are how the rankings are done. Gah. If they were so good, they’d be working for teams! Duh. The prospect rankings are STRICTLY for the fans. There are absolutely no repercussions on the accuracy of said rankings, literally anyone can do it. So it’s nice to argue about how great Volpe is going to be, but don’t base it on the rankings, that’s just fodder for fan conversation. Every team has their opinion on him and what he’s worth along with everyone else out there. And many teams are not THAT accurate, that’s for sure. So we won’t really know until later. No one will.

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    • LeapingLenny

      3 years ago

      “The prospect rankings are STRICTLY for the fans. ” Of course. What would they be for otherwise? But they are not done BY the fans. Got that, now?

      They are done by folks that do it for a living. Are they glitch-proof? Of course not.
      Would be prefer that there would be none at all?

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      • whyhayzee

        3 years ago

        Additionally, there is no way that any outside expert has anywhere near the amount of information about a prospect that his team has, next would be the agent. Next in line would be the other 29 teams. After that, all the other agents. The experts are merely selling a product, they have no stake at all. If they rank one guy over another and they’re wrong, it’s of absolutely no cost to them. If the agents start selling snake oil for talent, they’re out of the game faster than you can say, “Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain”. And if the teams can’t assess accurately, well I think we know what happens there.

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      • stymeedone

        3 years ago

        Who are these “folks that do it for a living?” Are they scouts? Statisticians? Editors? Do they actually go out and see the players, or just read reports 2nd hand? What’s the purpose of these rankings? Are they selling it to major league teams, or to fans? My guess is they are Editors, reading 2nd hand reports, and selling them to Fans. The vast majority of fans will, of course, be in the bigger markets, so pushing those prospects will tend to help sales. That’s why NY, LA and BOS prospects get the most press, and come off over-hyped. When you see a non big market team with a hyped prospect, pay more attention.

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        • LeapingLenny

          3 years ago

          “Who are these people?” Are you Seinfeld?
          YOU, in your eternal logic and knowledge, should post them instead.

          Ask one of the writers on this site why those ranking are mentioned so often in their stories. You hate big cities. We get it.

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    • hyraxwithaflamethrower

      3 years ago

      You’re never going to come up with a perfect prospect ranking system. Too many variables go into it, from psychological makeup to how well a player makes the necessary adjustments to how well these high schoolers fill out to how well athleticism translates into production. Do you really think Mike Trout would have gone 25th had people rated him appropriately?

      As far as arguing on Volpe (or any given prospect), how are we supposed to do it save for the rankings of people who do this for a living? I don’t have the time to go through every team’s farm system and analyze all the players and I doubt any of us really does. And sometimes, the stats lag behind the talent for a variety of reasons. The rankings are a shortcut to knowing which players are viewed as the best. And while I’m sure each of the teams has their own view on Volpe, I can’t imagine it’s that much different than him being a consensus top 20 prospect.

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      • LeapingLenny

        3 years ago

        Bravo! Exactly.
        And a #15 should bring back whatever #15s have typically brought back.
        And any other Yankee fans that wants him valued higher than a 15 is just wrong.

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    • UWPSUPERFAN77

      3 years ago

      HYRIX: NICE!

      Reply
  26. O’sfan222

    3 years ago

    Orioles for Cowser drew rom and Elly de la santos

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  27. JimmyForum

    3 years ago

    The girl that cuts his hair and I had a tryst back in 2021. We still keep in touch although we had to stop our affair. When I spoke with her last week she told me that LC (her nickname for him) spoke of his hatred of St Louis and it’s fan base and if he were to get traded there he would self harm

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    • peteredwardrose4256

      3 years ago

      DoucheBagSaysWhat????

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  28. bwmiller

    3 years ago

    The Reds have to get a quality pitching prospect in return and a starting positional player, and maybe a draft pick after Castillo’s last start.

    The Blue Jays need Castillo the most, and they can put together the best package with Nate Pearson or CJ Van Eck headlining the trade, and possibly Orelvis Martinez as the position player. That’s a good trade.

    The Reds get a top notch starter in the deal and hold on to Mahle, they will be good to go with Greene, Lodolo, Mahle fronting the rotation.

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    • stymeedone

      3 years ago

      Pearson is too iffy and injury prone plus has used up several minor league options, and Reds need 6 full years of control and flexibility.

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  29. angt222

    3 years ago

    Mariners could def get involved with their young OF and pitching. Kyle Lewis probably gets dangled.

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  30. cadagan

    3 years ago

    Ah. This thread already reminding me of getting closer to that part of the year to hear about trades involving all of yankees backups that have immense value. Surely destined for greatness if only they weren’t always blocked by others.

    Andujar, Bird, Ford, Frazier, Hicks, Wade, Refsnyder, Torreyes, Romine.
    Who’s destined this year?

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    • stymeedone

      3 years ago

      Hicks became great when he got to the Yankees. He was blocked in MN.

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      • earmbrister

        3 years ago

        Hicks is great?

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  31. slider32

    3 years ago

    Trading for Castillo is not like your are getting a stud like Scherzer. None of the starting pitchers that could be traded at the deadline are sure things. The Dodgers are more desperate for a starter, so I think they go all out for Castillo, while the Yanks look for an outfielder.

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    • DocBB

      3 years ago

      Dumb take..congrats

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    • peteredwardrose4256

      3 years ago

      Castillo isn’t a stud ??? #slider32 is clueless

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  32. stymeedone

    3 years ago

    Reds won’t trade with the Yankees because they won’t pay the contract of the player they are giving up. Isn’t that the requirement for the Yankees to make a trade?

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  33. theoldviolin

    3 years ago

    Leave it to the Reds to ask for SS prospects when their top prospects in the minors right now are both SS. And what will probably happen is they force the team to take Moustakas and get a mid level prospect.

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    • DocBB

      3 years ago

      Thank God you aren’t a GM. SS is the easiest position to move. They can easily play 6 other positions. You can never have too many SS’s

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      • theoldviolin

        3 years ago

        This isn’t little league. The Reds have tried moving people around, it doesn’t work that way in pro baseball. The ball comes of the bat in different ways at different positions. SS can usually play 3rd and maybe 2nd sometimes, but usually that’s it. When you have a product like Castillo, you trade for players that play positions that fit your needs. You don’t trade for players and hope they can move to positions that fit your needs.

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  34. peteredwardrose4256

    3 years ago

    Why would you even bother using a “Jim Bowden” quote in a Reds article ???
    Jim was Marge Schotts do-boy and Ron Oester should have kicked his @55 for pulling the Managers job out from under his feet

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  35. WhoDeyAllDey

    3 years ago

    Dominguez gets the conversation started.

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  36. Zerbs63

    3 years ago

    I don’t see the Dodgers trading much to get another starter they have at least 4 starters already better than Castillo. Gonsolin, Urias, Kershaw and Anderson are better than Castillo. Plus they have Buehler, May and Heaney coming back. Buehler and May are better than Castillo as well. Heaney has pitched well but is hurt every other start. The Dodgers need a closer and maybe a veteran bat off the bench

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  37. whyhayzee

    3 years ago

    Looks like Moriarty got the upper hand last night.

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  38. realbaseball

    3 years ago

    This screams regret-injury plagued future ahead. Do shoulder problems ever go away?

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  39. CJ81

    3 years ago

    The Cardinals could really use Luis castillo at the top of their rotation. That would move mikolas, waino, hudson, and matz to the 2-5 spots in the rotation which is where they probably belong.

    Do you all think the following enough to get castillo:
    Liberatore (#2), Joshua Baez(#5), Lukan baker #13)

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