Trade winds are swirling around Juan Soto, as it still isn’t clear if the Nationals will deal the superstar outfielder prior to Tuesday’s 5pm CT trade deadline. The market continues to change on an hourly basis based on other deals, and certainly based on countless private discussions happening between front office executives around baseball, and yet Soto (MLBTR’s top trade candidate of deadline season) looms over everything. Certainly, some clubs will want to explore all possibility of acquiring Soto, yet waiting too long could leave that team empty-handed for other trade options if Soto goes elsewhere.
The Padres are widely seen as one of the top contenders to land Soto, and are apparently open to surrendering the type of huge prospect package it will take to get Washington’s attention. As per MLB Network’s Jon Morosi, the Padres are “willing to discuss” such names as C.J. Abrams, Robert Hassell III, and Adrian Morejon with the Nationals. All three are or have been staples of top-100 prospect lists for the last few years, though Morejon has “graduated” from most prospect lists due to his MLB experience, and MLB Pipeline also removed Abrams from their list due to his 43 big league games played earlier this season.
Since the Nationals are known to be targeting younger, controllable players either already in the majors or on the cusp of their big league debuts, the Padres’ trio would seem to check those boxes. That said, it is quite likely that the Nats would want even more from the top tier of San Diego’s farm system (or from the active roster) in order to part with Soto, and the Padres could possibly have to up their offer in order to outbid other suitors.
For instance, the Cardinals also have a stockpile of young talent, and have also been mentioned as one of the favorites to land Soto. Dylan Carlson is a name on Washington’s radar, as Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch writes that the Nats “are fond of” the outfielder.
Carlson is only 23 and has already made a mark in the Show, delivering above-average production at the plate and strong defense (as both a center fielder and right fielder). The Nationals could be eyeing Carlson as their next outfield cornerstone, as the team would already be fairly certain that he could contribute right away, whereas players like Abrams, Hassell, or Morejon are still unproven at the MLB level.
On paper, the Cardinals would seemingly have the depth to move Carlson as part of a Soto deal, yet that would leave the Cards without a reliable center fielder. Harrison Bader is still on the 10-day injured list due to plantar fasciitis, and a setback will extend his stint for at least another few weeks, manager Oliver Marmol told Goold and other reporters. Bader won’t even be out of a protective right boot for another week or two, so while Carlson has capably filled in up the middle, St. Louis could also have to pivot to landing a center fielder in another deal if Carlson was moved. A makeshift combo of Lars Nootbaar and Tommy Edman in center, for instance, wouldn’t be an ideal option for a would-be contender.
As mentioned, other trades can drastically change the situation for multiple teams, and it appears as though two other potential Soto suitors are no longer involved. The Rays would’ve been something of an eyebrow-raising team to land Soto, yet the Nationals’ demands were “beyond their tolerance,” Joel Sherman of The New York Post writes. As such, the Rays eschewed the blockbuster route and instead landed David Peralta from the Diamondbacks earlier today. Yesterday’s acquisition of Luis Castillo would also seemingly take the Mariners out of the running for Soto, as Seattle dealt away a sizeable chunk of its prospect capital to obtain Castillo from the Reds.
Greenmachinelickitclean
Don’t see him going anywhere
The Man 38
After seeing what trade package Luis Castillo brought in yesterday this should make the Nationals more desperate to trade him. He would bring in a better prospect package right now than in the offseason because teams would love to have those two extra months, especially contenders like the Padres or Cardinals who need that extra flare if they want to win it all.
rememberthecoop
I don’t see it that way at all. I see that trade only increasing Rizzo’s demands for Soto. If they were “beyond the Rays tolerances” with all their prospect capital, that means the ask is unreasonable. It will have to wait til the off-season.
jk
I don’t believe it. He will get traded. They’ve damaged the relationship to a point of no return.
gmenfan
Your employer offers you nearly half a billion dollars and it “damages the relationship to a point of no return.” What a world we’re living in.
fox471 Dave
How have “ they” damaged the relationship to a point of no return, jk?
btharveyku08
“wait til the off-season” and “will get traded” are not mutually exclusive. Unless you think the front office there will buckle and take even less than they think they’d get in the offseason, particularly due to a broken relationship in a season they’re not doing anything anyway.
Oddball Hererra
The Rays also have a unique tolerance level because they are totally reliant on their farm and not free agency for competitiveness. They may be the easiest to price out
believeitornot
Trumpspeak. 440 is not nearly half a billion. And it was over 15 years. He won’t accept less money to play on a team that will most likely have a losing record until 2024.
iverbure
Some people say the dumbest stuff I’ve ever read on the internet on mlbtr
fox471 Dave
Dodgers
iverbure
I don’t know who thought Juan Soto who is due like in excess of 60 million through arbitration the next two years, the rays of all teams made sense for Soto, they’ve got to the most ignorant fan in all of baseball.
At no point would the rays be able to afford him in terms or salary, nor prospect capital considering it’s the life blood of their franchise. Furthermore they’re not even a serious contender this year. They have a hard enough time drawing fans and they never go full tank mode. Anyone who gave any serious thought to the rays getting Soto doesn’t have a single clue as to how the franchise operates.
zylo88
Trumpspeak?
jk
Taking the contract negotiations to the press.
jk
Couldn’t charter him a flight to the all star game? seems personal to me. Just my take.
jk
are you referring to the rays that nearly signed freddie freeman?
DogDays2
Taking contract negotiations to press??
Why shouldn’t they?? I’m not blaming Soto for not wanting to resign but why should the organization take the hit?
sportsarerigged
Jk – Signing a player and trading a bunch of prospects are two very different things
believeitornot
He was offered 440 million and someone said he was offered nearly 500 million. Trumpspeak is exaggerating a great deal or lying.
GarryHarris
Boras’ “The team is for sale…” declaration for starters. Negotiating through the media and saying the team will never be contenders is classless.
el rey
Puppet
Trump4TheWin
They didn’t offer him half a billion. If they did, and over 15-years, it would probably get the deal done.
Trump4TheWin
I agree $440M isn’t $500M, however trying to insert an anti-Trump narrative when your party constantly pushes the bar on everything and anything is ironic at best. Whatever happened to transitory inflation? Or did I mix that up with the definition of a recession? Or maybe I confused it with whom was really colluding with Russia (and China)… and of course there was nothing to Hunter Biden’s laptop. Oh, the vaccine was necessary… but, but, but…
How about we both stick to baseball and leave politics out of this discussion. We’ll never agree on the political aisle… however we can agree we love sports and Soto wasn’t offered $500M. I hope he stays with my Nats, however if he doesn’t, I hope Rizzo pillages a farm system similar to how Democrats pillaged the ballot boxes in 2020.
believeitornot
What was dumb?
Smacky
Not entirely true. Come the off-season teams will be able to trade the players they just took in the draft.
FarhanFan22
Never heard of the player to be named later?
FarhanFan22
I think you’re under estimating how many prospects it will take to bring those 4 in.
Murphy, Montas, Soto (DET), and Reynolds all have multiple years of control. Each team is going to want Castillo type returns. Nats want 6 guys and those 4 players would probably cost 12 guys.
FarhanFan22
Sorry this was meant for Henry Silvestre down below but I’m too lazy to retype it so I’ll leave it here.
dadofdonnydownvote
I see the Padres as the front runners unless Cashman offers up his top prospects which he never does.
Captain Judge99
@dadofdonnydownvote- Ca$hman could offer a haul without even giving up Anthony Volpe. Dominguez, Peraza, Waldichuk, Sweeney, Schmidt Pereira and Sears, definitely gets it done, and then Soto finally gets that free charter flight, just to Yankee Stadium, not the All-Star game.
afsooner02
Asking price is too high. Not saying Soto isn’t worth it but it’s just a ton to give up for one guy who isn’t having the best season to begin with.
Whoever gets him will have to mortgage their farm and then spend a record amount to sign him long term.
That’s a massive gamble.
YourDreamGM
Asking price doesn’t matter. It’s hard to imagine a team paying what the trade simulators say is Soto’s value. Nats gain nothing by keeping him for 2 more months. Will teams pay just as much for 2 playoff runs vs 3? It doesn’t make sense. So it’s take the best package now or take a lesser package later. Something is worth what someone is willing to pay, not what someone ask.
Camden453
Uh sorry but if you wait you have all the access to 2022 draft prospects also
Camden453
Soto is a typical guy who peaks early. It’s literally programmed as a part of pecota systems in baseball simulators
It’s rarer, but there’s a pattern of some hitters peaking age 19-23 and then tailing off after
If you run thousands and thousands of simulations for 16 years that use advanced pecota projections and aging pattern algorithms that are modelled on real-life baseball data as I have you’ll understand a ton about baseball
Twp
Ha. Yet here you commenting on MLB trade rumors. Soto hasn’t peaked, bro
Reyday
If you think Soto is declining you’re delusional, I have a feeling playing for this nats franchise that is going thru a really quick downturn prob doesn’t inspire the best in him. Put him in a contending lineup he will clutch. Not sure if that means he’s worth nearly half a billion but he’s still a top 5-10 hitter.
Trump4TheWin
He’s literally the best hitter in the game and his batting eye is as good as anyone I’ve watched play over the last 40 years. I’m not saying sound statistics should be disregarded, however I’ve watched way too much baseball to disregard his abilities. Someone will be getting Miguel Cabrera 2.0 when this trade is finalized.
Deleted Userr
They don’t “have” to sign him if they trade for him. Teams trade for good players then don’t sign them all the time.
steveng
“isn’t having the best season.” Actually his OPS+ is sky high. Give him one person who can get on base in front of him and two sluggers behind him for protection, which the Padres and Cardinals can. Then you will see what all the fuss is about.
Deleted Userr
The only people not having the best season are pitchers when Soto comes up in the area of throwing strikes.
CujoMarlin
Finding one impressive stat doesn’t mean you can ignore the less impressive. His BA is .240. That’s not elite. Walking a lot is not terribly impressive to me.
Bjoe
Batting average is a useless statistic
Wrian Washman
If I see one more person label the stat that quite literally measures the percentage of hits against total at bats as “useless” I’m going to strangle a baby cow.
Yep it is
This deal will go on and on and the Nats will be so greedy it will wind up like Durant where everyone is over with it.
thecoffinnail
If Corbin is a must in any deal no way the Cards keep pursuing a trade. The Padres and Dodgers are the only teams that seem willing to take on that much money. The Padres including Wil Myers and taking on all of Corbin plus the 3 mentioned prospects plus including someone like Gore and filler would get it done. Not sure how the Padres are going to pay everyone when they hit free agency. They will be playing much better and won’t be picking so high in the draft and their chance of finding all of those stud prospects will go way down picking in the 20’s routinely.
CujoMarlin
You may be surprised. STL might take Corbin with 50% of his salary and make it work. They need pitching. Maybe they think they can do a reclamation with Corbin. One trade. Lineup centerpiece + a possible starter (which they need) and the proposed t cost is reduced by taking Corbin’s bad contract.
rd42
Of course they’re willing to discuss them. They are the 3 staples of the deal. Abrams and Hassell are obvious, but Morejon has to be included now with Gore hurt.
If they add in Merrill and Wood, it’s a deal.
Javia135
Gore is fine. No structural damage.
JerseyShoreScore
Gore is fine, except for the fact that the Padres are in the playoff hunt and are talking about shutting him down for the season. Nothing to worry about here!
believeitornot
It doesn’t matter that much as long as he is okay for next season. The Nationals don’t really care if he can’t pitch this season.
oldguyG
Teams shut down pitchers when they have passed the amount of innings they have ever pitched
VirginiaGiant
Being a Giants fan… I’ve seen a lot of C.J. Abrams, that guys second tier prospect in my opinion.
Jonthunder
Yeah, he’s basically been Tyler Wade, his whole career.
Captain Judge99
Basically the Padres are offering all “single hitter minor league all stars” for a slugger. If I’m the Nats, I got to get Hassell, Merrill, Woods, Gore, and Weathers. If they don’t part with that package forget it.
Deleted Userr
Ummbyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
el rey
He’s not a real shortstop either. Better suited to play second base.
rememberthecoop
Add Gore too and then maybe. Still only maybe.
Javia135
So CL Abrams sucks, Gore sucks and Hassell is only an okay prospect? The Padres will need to add a ton more to have any chance of getting Soto? I wonder why the article has the Padres and Cardinals as the favorites? Other teams must be offering absolute garbage then. Hmmm…
iverbure
I love the guys who watch these prospects for a couple games at the mlb level and declare them busts lol.
I find it amusing so many of you here spend so much time watching baseball and yet don’t understand whatsoever. Nor do you understand how the gms evaluate and value talent. Must be quite frustrating as a fan
TexasLeaguer
Carlson lol. Crazy overrated. Definitely not a “cornerstone”
PaulSimon
Yawn these GMs are mo-tards
WillieMaysHayes24
Cardinals are better off in the long run not making a trade for Soto. They’d have to give up Carlson, Walker, Winn, plus two more prospects ranked in the top 10-20 of their system. They should be going after the likes of Syndegaard or Rodon, and possibly another bullpen arm.
jhend12
Agreed. This reasoning is why we haven’t had a losing season since 07 and havent had to rebuild since late 90s early 00s. The only reason IMO why we made the trades for Goldy and Arenado is they didn’t sting like this one would.
Camden453
Cardinals should have already fired their manager weeks ago and should have never hired him to begin with
btharveyku08
Okay, interesting take, but what does this have to do with anything described above?
Camden453
A lot. The fact that theyre desperate for a trade to fix it.
Theyre underperforming miserably. With that lineup and pitching they should be in first place
You can see it on all their faces. The chemistry is off in the clubhouse because the manager isnt comfortable being the guy
Maybe hes a good bench coach but he should have never been hired
And I said that even before the season. I said, ‘oh wow they hired that guy thats never going to work out and theyre stuck with him probably through 2023 now”
playhard9
Shildt, is that you? Come on now Mike, time to let it go. You weren’t a very good manager either.
Deadguy
Only manager in history to not get a first place vote and win manager of the year.
iH8PaperStraws
What pitching? They didn’t have any pitching going into the season and they still don’t. I don’t think Marmol was the right choice either. But he is literally nothing more than a puppet for Mo and Girsch. He’s just there to hand the umpires the lineup card.
stymeedone
Because of the sheer quantity of players the Nationals are looking for in return, I see contending teams having difficulty meeting the ask without creating holes elsewhere on their roster.
abc123baseball
Exactly. The Padres seem better positioned than the Dodgers or Cardinals in this regard. Losing someone like Abrams may hurt this year’s team a little, but not as much as the Dodgers losing Lux or Cards losing Carlson/Gorman.
Course I wouldn’t be shocked to see someone like Grisham being included in a Padres trade. Rumors are that the Nats want “125%” of Soto’s value. That’s totally unrealistic this summer but even 100% would require a bigger package than most would expect.
Brew’88
Unclear to me how this rumor is any different than yesterdays
gmenfan
News flash – it’s not. Its last summer’s Scherzer Watch all over again.
Trump4TheWin
My Nationals were fleeced in the Scherzer/Turner trades… even if Gray turns out to be an ace, Trea Turner is a game changer (and underrated). People love Tatis, Seager, Bichette, Xander, Lindor, etc. I’ll take Turner all day. He shows up to play and he loves the game of baseball. I really hope Soto and Turner get to team up one more time. They both do things the right way day in and day out..
Jeremy135
Jays need to be in on him
iverbure
Nope
JerseyShoreScore
Hassell is a great chip! However, Morejon got hammered tonight and his ERA is pushing 5.00. Abrams is young, but has been a failure to date at the Major League level. Gore is injured, may return in September if he can rehab the injury or they might shut him down.
Not sure the Padres have the chips to add Soto.
Samuel
I cannot recall a team continuing to have a reputation for owning the rights to up and coming stars and superstars when so few actually materialize. Yet the national baseball media continues to push their latest batch of prospects. This has been going on for 7-8 years now.
OK, Tatis is considered a superstar – when in fact he’s a terrific hitter; while a inconsistent and often crummy fielder and baserunner that injures himself going hotdogging in meaningless regular season games. Who else on that roster is a homegrown star?
Most of their depth chart is unimpressive, especially so when one realizes that they had to take on salaries in trade to get those guys. Many youngsters they traded to get those guys were developed by the teams trading for them as the Padres couldn’t do it. How many of them have turned out to be star players? Not good or above average MLB players, but star players? I can’t think of one.
I read about people being breathless over Abrams, Gore, Hassell, Wood, and Merrill. Wow! This is Renfroe, Hedges, Margot, Reyes, Cordero, Patiño, Naylor, Campusano, Trammell, Paddack, Quantrill, Luis Urias, etc. all redux.
believeitornot
Abrams was rushed to the majors. If he gets traded to D.C., I am pretty certain he would go to AAA.
Jonthunder
If Abrams is a headliner, I don’t know what the Yankees are waiting for…another playoff loss to Houston?
Javia135
If the Yankees want Soto all they have to do is up their offer. Perhaps they could offer the Nats a SS prospect that they would like even better?
Jonthunder
Seems like something Brian Cashman should do, if he really doesn’t wants to win the World Series…
Captain Judge99
The Yankees sure can offer a better shortstop. Peraza will be a better player then Abrams in the majors.
prov356
Time is getting short for a Soto and an Ohtani trade.
YourDreamGM
Ohtani never sounded like it had good odds of happening.
dgid
Angels aren’t smart enough from a “team building” standpoint to trade “Ohtani”
He brings too many star power and revenue to the owner for them to move. As an angels fan it would hurt to see such a talent leave, but I would understand. Angels are probably forced to keep him and try to resign, which would ultimately screw us financially moving forward.
prov356
Yeah, if we signed him long term to 45m AAV or so (that’s what is rumored to be his number), we would have 110m tied up in 3 players leaving about 70m for the other 23 (based on Moreno’s personal cap of about 180m). But Moreno makes too much money on him to do what’s right for the team.
YourDreamGM
Teams are fighting it out to land Travis Jankowski. Once he is off the table they will pivot and settle for Soto.
Camden453
A leadoff guy with a .370 OBP and 92 sprint speed is an incredibly valuable asset. Trust me on that one. It can be the difference between 83 wins and 90 wins. Ive run countless thousands of baseball simulations for the last 16 years.
Simply having a 98th percentile BB% and average contact hitting (.260) with 92nd percentile sprint speed is worth a ton of wins. 7-10 or more.
The 80s Cardinals and the other 80s teams in general used to hunt these types of players constantly. Steve Sax, Vince Coleman, Eddie Milner, Lenny Dykstra, Tim Raines, Von Hayes and on and on and on
Jankowski would have had incredible trade value and would have started regularly for a decade back in the 80s
The problem is today’s bonehead executives and scouts and the bum players they prefer are way too power-centric. Power is important but not every player in the lineup needs to have power
Gain a clue at some point. Teams used to stockpile a ton of players with speed and high OBP (and no power) like Jankowski back then
Literally one of the MOST valuable players in the league is sitting in DFA right now
If SD claimed him and started him regularly at CF theyd see a massive uptick in wins.
SocoComfort
Yea unfortunately small ball is dead for the most part. NL DH rule was the final nail in the coffin
iH8PaperStraws
People who are designated totally bring a ton a value. Mets are just generous folks to let him go I suppose. Also, no one is impressed by in depth knowledge of the show and your video game simulations.
Camden453
Yeah, ok. Former GM Steve Phillips once said on espn radio that he would trade prospect Stephen Strasburg for Roy Oswalt
So we should totally just blindly trust the moves all the gm’s make
Odubel Herrera is totally way better than Jankowski and his gold glove CF defense, .370 OBP, and elite speed
iH8PaperStraws
Phillips wasn’t a GM in 2010. He was a frequent guest on a radio program and did his own specials around the trade deadline. His job was to say things like that. Oswalt was having a great year and helped the Phillies reach the NLCS but he wasn’t traded for anything near the 1.1 overall draft pick a year removed.
mookie1
@guest678
I was picturing strat-o-matic in his parents basement with a stack of loose leaf paper and a calculator.
Twp
You are the bonehead
iH8PaperStraws
I think your simulator needs to be upgraded from punch cards to using R like all of the analytics departments use. But your right, clubs don’t yet realize what they are missing with Jankowski. The fact they he has only gotten over 300 ABs in a season twice is a black eye on the game. That he has only played for scrub teams is mind blowing. Players like him are literally a dime a dozen. Defense isn’t the hard part of the game, there are tons of players who never make it who are gold glove capable defenders. He can’t hit, plain and simple, his career OBP is .320, no where near .370.
mookie1
@guest678
I think Camden is Jankowski.
mgomrjsurf
Mistake in article time says 5pm when really 6pm. Can also eliminate the Yankees for him. Maybe effecting other moves the Nats are trying to move,
YourDreamGM
Tuesday’s 5pm CT trade deadline
100 percent correct
mgomrjsurf
East Coast time is 6pm and central time is 5pm.
YourDreamGM
There ya go
Old York
Yankees and Blue Jays should be trading for Soto. Even if it is only for 3 more seasons, that’s 3 more potential post-seasons witha guy like Soto. Not getting that with prospects who may or may not pan out in the bigs.
YourDreamGM
You may get 2022 Soto production from a prospect and for 6 years. Doubtful but you never know. Might get 2 regulars 12 years. . I would rather the Yankees unload the farm instead of the Padres. Live Hassle but not crazy about Camp Abrams. Gore is interesting. Tuff to give up Hassle.
Shrutefarm
I think missing out on Castillo is going to hurt the Yankees more than any other team. Do we really trust Cole in a big game? Will Cortes still be strong by the end of the year or will fatigue be setting in? (He’s already maxed his previous high for seasonal innings)
Their offense is very home run dependent. When the playoffs start, home runs are harder to come by. So when they get down early, it won’t be secondary pitchers/relievers out there for them to catch up like they have been doing so far this year. They need starting pitching to keep them in games.
YourDreamGM
For 300 and some million you better trust him. He’s all yours for the next decade.
FarhanFan22
Preller gonna trade. I have a feeling he empties the farm for Soto.
Something like Abrams, Hassell, Esteury Ruiz, Morejon, Matt Waldron and a RP like Ray Kerr might be enough.
Big whiffa
6 dudes ?!? Lol. Well I guess reds got 4 for Castillo so why not 6. Honestly I think that’s why tx is fav. They got a couple good name offer followed up by a slew of high floor teenagers. I think 6 rangers get it done too
FarhanFan22
Yeah but the rangers high end guys are far from the majors (Jung) or pitchers (Leiter, Winn, Rocker) and TX really needs pitching.
The padres package I threw out there has ML ready talent like Abrams, Ruiz, Morejon, a high end guy far away (Hassell) and plenty of arms. SD gets to keep Gore, Campusano, Knehr as ML ready guys and high upside youngsters like Wood and Merrill.
dale123
Whatever jung will be in majors by September
FarhanFan22
I didn’t know Jung was back from his injury that’s kept him out all year. Still doesn’t change the fact that TX needs pitching and probably has to move a decent chunk of it to get Soto. I also think SD prospects are overrated and Preller is more willing to move a large number of them. Nats have a lot of holes to fill too.
Trump4TheWin
I would be willing to sacrifice Soto for Jung, Taveras, Leiter, Rocker and Winn. Doubt a package like that would materialize… however it would be an outstanding haul for the Nationals. The Rangers are going to be scary in about three years.
Mystery Team
If Dylan Carlson intrigues the Nats then the Nats are easy to impress because that dude isn’t that good. I feel like the Nats are humoring the Cardinals to help get the package from the Padres better. Unless the Cardinals are going to give them ten prospects I’m not seeing them being legit. Beside Walker and maybe McGreevy it’s a bunch of blah.
Deadguy
Dylan Carlson is a legit 5 tool player
mrnotsoniceguy
Cj Abrams is so fkin overrated
Big whiffa
Naw. He’s a G. Just to old and predictable for this deal. Most 21 year olds are breaking AA if they are any good. He’s in the majors.
I don’t think padres and nationals are a good match. Why trade gore or abrams ? Neither have reached their peak value. But at the same time are as highly regarded prospects you could have while playing at major league level.
rememberthecoop
No way to know until he plays in the Show. He could be good you don’t know. Overrated? Only if he doesn’t do well when he gets to the bigs. We don’t know yet.
Big whiffa
Ohtani is the real prize. GMs should give up way more for him.
He’s the perfect crazy Red Sox deadline trade.
rememberthecoop
Everybody’s trying to propose a deal as if the Nats are willing to negotiate. Not right now. Maybe in the off-season but right now they will probably only trade him if someone meets a crazy ask. That’s my read on it.
YourDreamGM
Good luck to the Nats. Some of the teams showing interest have zero intentions of giving him half a billion. They want to use him for two playoff runs and trade him . Even the ones who will use him for all 3 want all 3. I find it hard to believe teams will pay just as much for a year less.
iH8PaperStraws
No team team has the intention of giving him half a billion dollars. He’ll be lucky to get 10 for 350 unless he wins an MVP but that ain’t happening on the Nats.
Bigtimeyankeefan
Cashman sneaks in and steals him
Rumors2godsears
The Nationals overplayed their hand and watched as the Reds swooped in and got the prospects they were coveting. They won’t be able to land what the Reds landed and will have to wait for the off-season to revamp their trade request.
YourDreamGM
They will get more.
Camden453
They’ll wait until offseason. I wouldn’t get too excited
Terry B
Soto won’t get traded until the off-season!
Inside Out
Wrong
Terry B
Bottom line, I’d take Ohtani over Soto in a hot minute! You get two players for the price of one! Stud pitcher AND stud hitter! Soto not even very good on the defensive end!
YourDreamGM
Injury will take away 2 players as well. Soto has extra year. 6 man rotation. Value is pretty close. 2 years of 1 player vs 1 year of 2 players. You get Ohtani’s pitching for the rest of this year.
fljay73
A 15 year $440 million contract wasn’t enough to get him to sign on paper. Just 2+ years left & any team would be foolish to go
beyond that or above $500 million. Pass. Happy the Rays did.
jvent
Hope Cards or the Padres get Soto, as a Mets fan, the only player that I would give up multiple prospects for is Ohtani.
Amanda
St louis wont win the WS this year with or without soto, they arent that good this year, would they be better? hell ya, any team would, Same for the red sox, we have been building a really good farm system for years, they wont dump half of them for 1 player, plus have you seen the guys who we have brought up? they have been horrendous and simply arent ready, I dont get the texas rumors, they have a horrible record and wont make the playoffs, why would they bother, i also dont see the yankees getting him, if the yankees are gonna loose minor league players, its gonna be for a pitcher
paindonthurt
I feel like you are missing the point of acquiring a player like Soto. He is a generational talent. That makes you better for the remainder of his contract. You likely don’t trade for him unless he is being locked up for over a decade. It’s not just about this year.
iH8PaperStraws
It only about this year, the next two and nothing more.
DLL 2
Scott Boras and Soto are looking to rack up the highest home run totals before he goes free agent.Why would he go to San Diego?.The stadium is at sea level and is in a cool climate.No idea for home run production.
Deleted Userr
Soto and Boras have no say in that matter.
YourDreamGM
Boras and Soto don’t have much say where he goes.
Henry Silvestre
Time for AJP to use those specs to land Sean Murphy + Montas. The more valuable (to the Pads) Soto as in Detroits Closer and CF Bryan Reynolds..these 4 COMBINED won’t cost as much as Soto by himself… and Pads would be a better team with the +4 vs the +1 Soto
Brew’88
Or keep those prospects because we’ll need them starting in 2023-2025
Shrutefarm
Wow, Jeff Passan is reporting that Soto is going to LA for Gavin Lux and 4 prospects.
YourDreamGM
Where on CNN?
Shrutefarm
Looks like I may have been duped by twitter. Fake news for now. Sorry
DLL 2
Padres prospects are way overated.Abrams hitting 231,Ruiz 222,Morejon’s ERA is 6:75,Gore’ is 4 plus with potential arm injury.Preller must think the National’s GM is stupid
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BREAKING: The Los Angeles #Dodgers are close to agreeing to a deal that would send 4 prospects and Gavin Lux to the Washington #Nationals in exchange for All-Star OF Juan Soto.
YourDreamGM
Cartaya is part of the “package’ as well according to Ben Dover.
Joe It All
I just read the reporters name out loud that broke that possible trade and I feel stupid. He should have went with the classic Mike Hunt over Mike Hawk.
Joe It All
So between the two big deals they’ve each made with each other over the last year, we now have the Cincinnati Mariners, Seattle Reds, Washington Dodgers and Los Angeles MVPS
TheOpener
Soto is overrated but he has similar trade value as Ohtani. More team control and while Ohtani has had a higher peak, the 1 less year of team control is a big difference maker. The saved roster spot is a myth because an (awkward) 6 pitching staff is required- and even if it wasn’t- it’s not like teams are desperate for roster spots.
desertdawg
Padres maybe willing to take Patrick Corbin’s contract off there hands
YourDreamGM
Only if Nats take Hosmer and Myers.
CrikesAlready
If the Padres get him, I still don’t think they win in the playoffs (if they get there). The team is so thin, offensively, they only have hope 1/3 of the time.
dodgerfan83
If hassell, morejon and Abrams get it done for Soto, Dodgers could send May, Busch, and Pages and it’s a better deal for the Nats.
iH8PaperStraws
If the Nats want Carlson in the deal they can have him. That means the Cards keep O’Neil who is the far superior player. And the writer needs to watch more Cardinal games, ONeil can play center very well. Carlson’s ceiling is Stephan Piscotty. Soto could very well be in Carlsons seat on the plane when the cardinals leave town tomorrow night. And they’ll still have Gorman, Walker and Wynn in the organization. It will funny though when the Nats roll out an outfield of Thomas, Carlson and Burleson.
dodgerfan83
If Morejon, Hassell, and Abrams is all it takes, Dodgers can top that with May, Busch, and Pages. Maybe throw Pepiot in there. Padres gotta offer more than that.
dodgerfan83
If Morejon, Hassell, and Abrams is all it takes, Dodgers can top that with May, Busch, and Pages. Maybe throw Pepiot in there. Padres gotta offer more than that, or they won’t get him.
Henry Silvestre
I can see Jake Croneworth added with +Josh Bell and Cesar Hernandez added to the deal.. and Hosmer +$20mi going back to Wash as well
BobGibsonFan
If the Padres are offering Hassell Abrams and Morejon… they should seriously consider it. They are risking losing Soto and just gaining one mediocre draft pick. That is 3 top young players. Of course, try and sneak a couple more out of them, but man. Make the deal.
Joe It All
What are they risking? He’s still under control for another two years. It’s not like they can’t trade him in the off-season for more than a draft pick is nothing comes together by Tuesday.
JoeJackson4HOF
So, say you’re the Padres. Send a bunch of prospects. You’ve got Soto for 2 pennant runs. Two years from now, trade him. You won’t get everything you gave up, but you’ll likely get more than half back. And, those prospects will be closer to MLB-ready and you can slot them in to specific needs. That’s a relatively inexpensive rental for one of the best young bats in the game.
Deleted Userr
I promise you that no one, i repeat, NO ONE, is trading for Juan Soto so they can flip him later on for significantly less value than what they gave up to get him in the first place.
Bright Side
Ignoring the “rankings” these guys aren’t great prospects. C.J. Abrams, Robert Hassell III, and Adrian Morejon. Abrams is more athlete than player, Hassell is having a great season – in A+, and Moreion hasn’t pitch well as a relief pitcher in MLB. This is Rizzo’s second attempt to overrate another team’s prospects to up the bidding from the Yankees and Dodgers.
Deleted Userr
What, in your opinion, is the 20 y/o Robert Hassell III supposed to do?
Brew’88
@Bright side. What makes you think Abrams, Morejon and Hassell gets the deal done? Oh, this article says so…. well, that’s why it’s MLBTRumors, not MLBTReality. It will take more.
EvelKnievelVsGodzilla
As I don’t see the Rays taking part in the Soto sweepstakes, what better way to sell a new stadium with Soto under contract!?
Voice of Reason
The Nats aren’t dealing him at the deadline. That would be so stupid. You wait until the season is over and then bring as many teams to the table as possible for the best return.
iH8PaperStraws
Don’t understand that logic. What’s prohibiting all 29 teams from being involved now? The Rangers are rumored and they are going nowhere this year. any team that trades for him now will at least see a bump in attendance and TV ratings for the rest of the season.
BeforeMcCourt
The only reason to wait is if someone isn’t willing to meet your price, or if you’re very convinced you want a teams recent draft pick
Otherwise, you’re cutting 1/3 of his true value by waiting- 3 title runs become 2 possible
Deleted Userr
They’re not getting a better return in the offseason. To say that they would is just ludicrous. 3 potential title runs is worth way more than just 2. And don’t try it with “But there will be more bidders in the offseason!” If contending didn’t work out for a team in 2022 but they plan on contending in 2023 and 2024 they will absolutely be in on Soto at the deadline. They aren’t going to wait until the offseason and risk someone else trading for him first.
BeforeMcCourt
Whatever they do, I love that the dodgers dont have every piece of business in the media