Offseason In Review Chat: Los Angeles Angels By Darragh McDonald | March 2, 2023 at 11:57am CDT MLBTR will be hosting team-specific chats in conjunction with each entry of our Offseason In Review series. Earlier today, we released the Angels’ entry in the series. Click here to read the transcript of the Angels-centric chat.
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How many more seasons do the Angels have to go without making the playoffs until Mike Trout finally requests a trade?
There is not a trade package that could be offered that would be enough to land Trout
As long as Arte owns the team!
BTV says Triston Casas and Brandon Walter would do it for your team. There’s still the issue of Trout having a full NTC tho.
That’s a huge undersell on the Angels part. I believe if for whatever reason Trout requests a trade or the Angels decide to try to move him that he would only waive his NTC for the Dodgers (so he can continue to live in Orange County during the season) or the Yankees/Phillies (childhood team, closest he can get to playing at home)
I’m just telling you what BTV says. They don’t take into account things like “name value” or “the inside track to extending the player” like most on here do so they tend to value players like Trout who are still elite when healthy but the “when healthy” is starting to become a pretty decently sized asterisk less so than people on here do.
For the Dodgers they say Bobby Miller, James Outman and Yeiner Fernandez would work.
Trade him after Trout and Ohtani play their first full season together and they miss the playoffs. So far that hasn’t happened.
He would be a Dodger right now if not for Arte!
The whole Jared Weaver thing speaks volumes about Angels culture. Having Nevin respond to the criticism is strange. A new manager is not in charge of reaching out to alumni, that’s an organizational thing that falls on the front office. The Cards or Giants or Yanks or Dodgers seem to have the same guys back regardless of who’s coaching. There’s Once a Yankee always a Yankee. And there’s Once an Angel, once an Angel
Liberate yourself Ohtani from the baseball backwaters of Anaheim!
Weird take. Nevin was asked about the tweet & responded that he invited Championship winning Angels alumni & former team mates as guest coaches. Almost like a you’re projecting your belief/opinion on how things are done.
I’m not sure I’m going to like Nevin. I don’t think he knows how to handle the pen and he seems like a bit of a dic_k.
He should have handled that question much much better.
That’s an opinion. I think he handled it fine.
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Not sure Wikipedia is the best source, but it seems the consensus within Wikipedia is that Arte’s team is the Los Angeles Angels.
Really, his team is just “Angels”. He removed the city name from the road uniform in 2004. Home or road, the brand is simply “Angels”.
@SkipJutz—It wouldn’t have killed you to spend a minute learning about the story before inflicting your thoughts on the world. Nevin extended the invites to the early 2000s-era Angels, because he played with most of them, knows all of them, and wanted to bring a crew in from a specific Championship era to show the younger players how its done, and to allow them to pick the brains of the retired players.
I’m impressed your life is running so smoothly that you need to reach this hard just to be outraged over something. Just remember to warm up first.
Keep in mind that Nevin was with the Angels in 1998 when Tim Salmon, Jim Edmonds, Garret Anderson, Darin Erstad, Troy Glaus (rookie season), Jarrod Washburn, and Troy Percival were on that same team. Bengie Molina, Ramon Ortiz, and Scot Schoenweis were top Angels prospects at the time, and were probably there with Nevin in spring training. All but Edmonds were on the ‘02 club. Nevin also made a name for himself in Angels lore in ‘98. He led an all out attack on the Royals in KC in one of the more intense bench clearing brawls of the 1990s. Nevin got hit in the side, threw his helmet at the pitcher, and charged. Angels and Royals traded HBP throughout the game. In the late innings, another fight broke out, and Percival and Gary DiSarcina went full beast mode, chasing the pitcher down the right field line. I believe that was Washburn’s major league debut. Anyways, I never understood why they let Nevin go, but when he was here, he was one of the boys.
Under the circumstances, I don’t mind Weaver not getting an invite, I just thought his answer was pretty bad.
There were a lot better ways to handle the question and very few worse ways to handle the question.
Weaver, Tanana and Finley are the best three pitchers this organization has ever produced. I think more respect was needed.
@Ryan I agree. I think Weaver just misunderstood the circumstance. Nevin is the one that invited and invited people from the championship team. He didnt mean to slight Jered.
Also, Nevin is intense. As we seen when Seattle keep throwing at Trout;s head last year. He started Wantz the next day to hit a couple players which lead to a brawl. It accomplished what it needed to as Trout stopped getting his head throwing at.
This type of retaliation isn’t for everybody, but since Trout and Ohtani have endorsed Nevin, I think it is fair to say the players have his respect.
I don’t think I would have started my quote, with.
“If you throw a party, there is always someone who is going to be upset.”
First of all, how you start is the most important. Second, that line should have never been said. Who doesn’t realize that?
That’s management 101.
Weaver is the third best pitcher this organization has ever produced. He asked what a guy needs to do to get an invite, and that’s Nevin’s first line? You’re don’t manage people if you think that is a good response.
Nevin could have handled it better, get rid of that line, don’t start with it, and his response was fine.
Of course it’s an opinion. I’m not stating this as fact sheesh. Anytime a new owner buys a team that has a history of neglecting certain alumni, the first thing they do is reach out to any alumni and welcome them back into the fold. Basketball, football, you name it. Weaver wasn’t addressing Nevin or this year’s “championship winning” alumni. He said since he retired, he hasn’t heard nothing from the organization. This goes back to ALL managers. Ausmus. Madden, etc. I’m actually criticising ownership for not taking responsibility. And then Nevin rationalizes it as “I’m just focusing on wins and losses” is tone-deaf and lacking common sense. All Angels should be welcome every year to be coaches, not just whomever the current manager is comfortable with.
So in your opinion, Mo Vaughn should be in camp followed by Jose Guillen and Trevor Bell. Perhaps they should revive Tony Phillips to show the players ho to make hotel reservations.
Weaver was addressing Nevins choice when he decided to make it about himself and say something publicly in the during Nevins 1st camp.
If you don’t like my opinion. Just say you disagree with me. To say my comment is an “opinion” or a “projection of how I want things to be” is redundant. Of course it’s my opinion and that’s the way I think things should be done!
“It’s important for young players to have the opportunity to learn from people who have done it, and our organization always felt it was important to have guys like [Bob] Gibson, Lou [Brock] and Red [Schoendienst] around,” said Smith, a Hall of Famer and a 1982 World Series champion with the Cardinals. “What’s always made this organization special is having those type of people, those type of Hall of Famers, around. You don’t even have to talk baseball. It can just be about life in general. The Cardinals have taken advantage of having people who were successful at their craft around their young players, and it’s paid off.” from Ozzie Smith last week. How many teams wish they could have a Rod Carew hang around Spring Training?
Rod Carew. Great hitter & amazing person. Made comments regarding Pete Rose about a month ago, no way that topic is coming up during Angels camp if he was attending, right?
In a perfect world your idealistic view of how camps should be ran would work but we live in a messy world.