9:16pm: deGrom met with the media after the game and downplayed the issue (relayed by Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News and Jeff Wilson). He’ll be reevaluated tomorrow but indicated he didn’t feel it was a series problem. deGrom said he hopes to make his next scheduled start.
8:05pm: Jacob deGrom was removed from tonight’s start in Kansas City after four no-hit innings. The Rangers later called it a precautionary decision after the superstar experienced right wrist soreness.
Texas added that deGrom will go for continued evaluation. It’s obviously too early to draw any conclusions about the issue’s severity. That the Rangers specified the removal as precautionary is a welcome development, though any arm-related issue is at least a bit concerning considering deGrom’s history. The righty was limited to 26 combined appearances during his final two seasons as a Met. Shut down midway through the 2021 season with a forearm issue, he missed the first half of last year on account of a stress reaction in his right scapula.
On the optimistic side, deGrom didn’t look any worse for wear during tonight’s appearance. He retired 12 of 14 batters, only walking one and seeing another hitter reach on an error. His final pitch of the night was a 97.9 MPH fastball that turned into a Kyle Isbel fly ball.
The Rangers are sure to provide more information in the next few days. deGrom is up to 20 2/3 innings of 3.48 ERA ball with a ridiculous 32:3 strikeout-to-walk ratio in the first season of his five-year free agent deal. The Rangers have an off day on Thursday; if they stick with a five-man rotation, deGrom would next be lined up to pitch on Sunday against Oakland.
“Precautionary” for him is 8-10 weeks
This is one of the few times where the guy that comments “RIP” would have an applicable joke.
RIP.
“Rangers in pieces”
“This is my last resort”
Good grief
Death, taxes and you know the rest
I had a friend in London who thought the saying went, ‘Nothing can be said to be certain, except death in Texas.’ I told her, yeah, that too.
My London friend says, “the sea monster’s favorite food will always be fish and ships.”
No, I kid! A lot. I have no London friend! Lol.
But, deGrom, oh no? Yes, because injury history tells us injury future. Bad contract! Ranger danger never learns!
I just spent a FA on this guy in NFBC Diamond Challenge. Never fails. SSDD with deGrom!
Nobody cares.
That’s a lot of acronyms.
Well that didn’t take long at all
Always precautionary with this player, until the imaging comes back
Oh no!!!
Owchie 🙂
You know what they say about a fool and their money.
There are a lot of those in MLB among large markets. Problem is they drive up the price for the other 20 teams.
Or the owners are too cheap to pay the going rate.
Only a large market apologist would say that.
Of course you know how to run a small market team…into the ground. Not every franchise can afford these crazy contracts.
But as long ss you get yours, you could care less about the health of the game.
Dude you are obsessed with ‘large market’ teams.
Omly because they are ruining baseball. I actually care about the fame, not my little bubble.
What’s your excuse?
“Reds” is in your name and Cincinnati is definitely a Small Market team. Wouldnt that qualify as your ‘little bubble’?
Also, can you tell me which ten teams are in Large Markets? LA (2) NY (2) Chi (2), — Which ones are the last 4: Bos, Phil, Dall, Hou, SD, Tor, Wash, Mia, Den, Minn, Sea, Atl, StL, Balt, Oak — I’d consider all of those teams are in ‘Large Markets’ or at least ‘Mid Market’.
Does a team not count as being in a ‘Large Market’ if theyre in a big city, but dont have fan support or cheap owners (Mia, Den, Oak)?
Houston is almost as large as Chicago, and doesn’t have to share two teams.
What I said ” I’d consider all of those teams are in ‘Large Markets’ or at least ‘Mid Market’.”
What dr.remulak said:
“Houston is almost as large as Chicago, and doesn’t have to share two teams.”
——
Your point?
“A fool and their money are soon partying.” – Gary 4:18
Mr. Injury. Can’t stay on the field. Just can’t do it.
It’s too bad. MLB is better with him on the field.
Why?
Because he’s sort of good when he’s healthy?
Blue, maybe because the sport is best served when its best players are playing.
@gbs42: I don’t know. Any player being out can create an opportunity for another guy. Nothing wrong with that. Plus it’s the Texas Rangers, so meh.
I agree, but there’s no way to prove this, as he’s hardly on the field.
Oh boy it’s gonna be a long 5 years!
And ranger fans were feeling so high when they just celebrated their “World Series” for the season by taking 2 of 3 from the Astros.
They didn’t change the outcomes of those games because degrom left his start tonight….. We still took 2 of 3 from the Astros! Haters gonna hate
Who’s hating? The Rangers are afterthoughts in their own state and are little brothers to the Astros in the division just like the other 3 teams. You can’t even call it a “rivalry” at this moment.
I disagree here. The Astros were terrible for years. They’re great now, but I don’t see the Rangers as “little brothers.” Very few teams maintain success for 5+ years. The Astros are doing that now. They deserve props and it’s incredible, but all things end, and the Rangers aren’t too far away from being a contender.
Let’s be honest. When the Astros are done with their run, Texans will be more interested in high school football and doing everything in their power to make sure those who make it to college get paid as little as possible for their effort. At which point they’ll turn around and lecture blue states on the free market.
@B-Minus21: I don’t care enough to hate the Rangers. Most of us north and east of Texas are indifferent to the state’s worst MLB team.
Oof, makes those losses even uglier then for Houston.
But my point is that outside of Texas, nobody cares.
He should refund the Rangers whenever he doesn’t make a quality start.
Because they had no idea he was injury-prone when they signed him.
No he shouldn’t. They signed a contract with their eyes open.
deGrom is going to break his arm pitching. There’s no way to avoid it
I said a couple years ago, make him a closer so he can still have a career
Many others have floated the idea. deGrom needs to accept he can’t start anymore
Lol who would have thought that all the Rangers had to do was visit the comments section of a website to get professional medical advice!
Well, it’s pretty obvious just by taking one glance at his body. You don’t need a doctor or mri’s to see it, unless you’re oblivious to reality and cant assess anything
In the same way you could take one look at Cespedes leg and know the leg was bad
You don’t need doctors and a scan, mindless buffoon
Your kind is the scourge on modern society who always insist on absurd measurements because they can’t even see what’s right in front of them
Get a brain at some point. It’s obvious by looking at video of deGrom for ten seconds he’s brittle physically
The endless amount of low intelligence people on this site
Dude’s gonna make his next start and you’ve planned his funeral lol
He’s trying to prevent what’s coming by taking himself out of games
Well then he should have retired years ago. Oh wait, there were millions on the table.
It’s an unnatural thing to do with your body. If you choose to accept the risk and do it anyway, and collect the paycheck that comes with it, the transaction has been completed.
I’m sure EVERY pitcher who has ever played has pitched knowing one bad throw means TJ surgery.
He’s getting paid regardless. But converting to relieving isn’t going to get him paid the way he does now., nor would the rangers spend that much on a reliever.
Hm. Stanton and deGrom on the IL. Hard to believe.
I truly almost feel awful for saying this, but as a met fan, I lost a lot of love for DeGrom leaving NY in the fashion he did. Just to have pitched less than a season in his last 2 years & declaring he would opt out before throwing another one. I always wondered why?
Money. The answer is money.
Yes and no. He didn’t give any other team a shot to counter it. I think he wanted out of the big market and to retire with his family in Texas.
He earned the right to choose where he wanted to play and did just that. You can’t fault him for it.
I don’t fault him at all. He made a decision that he felt was best for his family.
@stanthefan: Truly almost feel awful? As opposed to actually, you know, feeling awful? It’s black and white, you feel awful or you don’t. And if you feel awful about saying something, then why say it? Choose not to say it and don’t feel awful.
We as fans do this too much. Players should be able to play wherever they want. deGrom was literally the only good thing about the Mets for a few years, and now some fans lose respect for him? I think that’s ridiculous. Let him move on. Remember how great he was for you. I had these same feelings about Jayson Werth when he left the Phillies. I used to get so annoyed when some Phillies fans booed him. Why? The guy helped the Phillies get a World Series. These players don’t owe any loyalty to a corporate billionaire. They don’t owe anything to some random team and city that drafted, traded them or signed them. I just don’t get that mentality, but everyone is different. To each their own.
Unfortunately some fans take it way too personally. I could never root against him.
@VonPurpleHayes: Well said. Furthermore, many fans don’t see loyalty as a two-way street. The free agent is not obliged to accept a “hometown discount” from his incumbent team or anything less than his best offer.
There actually are fans who wish we could go back to the time when players were illegally bound to their teams by the old reserve system, which the owners used to underpay players for the better part of a century.
Imagine how much Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, Lou Gehrig, Joe DiMaggio, Stan Musial, Mel Ott, Ted Williams, and others would have made if they had had the basic right to become free agents and seek contracts in a free market for their services something we take for granted today.
It may not be a “series problem,” but is it a serious problem?
I don’t know deGrom personally, but he seems to be a bit of a hypochondriac and perfectionist, like if everything is not exactly 100% right and the stars aren’t aligned correctly and his puppy didn’t piddle on the pee-pee pad that morning then he’s not gonna pitch. (Totally open to changing my perception upon further evidence.)
I think that’s a fair assessment from a fans perspective. Wrist soreness? Soreness? I’m sore every single day, man.
The other thing I’ve been pondering with him, is how much toll does it truly take on a guys body to throw 100+ consistently? To throw that hard slider he has consistently? His stuff at one point was about as nasty as you could possibly get. And I think we’re still discovering what that does to a 30ish year old man.
Even though I’m not necessarily a fan and certainly don’t want to see the rangers do well; the game is better when Degrom is healthy. At his best, not many pitchers out there more fun to watch.
There was a time when you looked ahead to buy tickets to a Gibson-Seaver-Carlton-Marichal-Palmer start, because you could count the games ahead and know they would pitch every fourth day, and even rainouts wouldn’t mess that up because that other starter would get skipped for the Ace. Jacob deGrom was the first pitcher since then earlier in his Mets career who I would try to plan ahead on. MLB is better with him playing. But reality is He should be a Rays starter with the bullpen lined up behind him, except the Rays can get quality innings from someone making 1/12th of what Jake makes.
Or maybe it’s that since he started throwing triple digits, his body has broken down at a much faster rate, and can’t take it anymore? When he first came up, he topped out at 94-95MPH.
@Jdt312
According to Fangraphs, he topped out at 99.87 in his rookie season in 2014.
Topped out is the operative phrase. Look at his average FB velo since he came up. He wasn’t throwing this hard in his Cy Young years.
He was averaging 99.1 mph or so in 2021. Had an historic first half and hasn’t been able to start consistently since then.
He was not throwing that consistently.
According to fangraphs, his average 4 seam mph was in the mid 90’s for the first 4 years of his MLB career. 2014 was 94.2. 2015 was 95.6. 2016 was 94.0. 2017 was 95.2. It was when he started turning it up that he developed arm problems. I stand behind my initial statement.
@SODOMOJO: Unless you’re maybe 12, why do you waste energy hating a team that much?
Did he take one off the wrist? Maybe he just snapped one off to hard. Rangers were always shaking the dice with this signing.
Hint: Throw 95 and save 100 for 2 strikes…
Can MLB rename the injured list the Degrom list?
He should have signed with the NEW YORK Rangers, what with his wrist shot.
“indicated he didn’t feel it was a series problem”
“Series”? Really?
Jesus H., c’mon, man.
Unveiling the City Connect Uni’s and his wrist hurts the same night Coincidence?
Obviously he’s not a Master of his Domain
This brings back memories of the summer of 2021, when deGrom had a forearm strain, and went down for rest until after the all star break. Flash forward to August of 2022…..
Testing
I see ya buddy. All good.
That’s right, he’s going in for testing.
Not a series problem, maybe a season problem
He’s fine you dummies. Also, Dunning stepped in and did a great job. Kewl.
Stepped in he did, like the red headed, goggle wearing step child, that he is. Thanklessly mopping up other peoples messes, toiling away in obscurity. Dirty deeds, Dunning dirt cheap!
DUDDUS: tapping away missives for dummies from the intersection of Fort Worth and Dallas, since 1974
Does anybody ever just suck it up and play through the pain anymore?
He brought the Lol Mets all the way to Texas.
Look at the local TV deals, the primary among other revenues, and you have your answer.
As with every other business, you can’t make expenditures without the revenue to do so.
With a few exceptions, no one is going to run their business at a loss. You don’t get to be a billionaire by doing that.
I am more concerned with the health of the game, not just my favorite team as a kid. In fact, my involvement with MiLB was with a different club.
He and Duvall need to get together and do some wrist exercises.
Are you feeling teased yet, Rangers fans? deGrom’s brilliance is right in front of you, only to be taken away from you. Expect 4.9 more years of this.
No, I’m feeling great. It was precautionary like said and he threw great today without missing a start.
At some point, “precautionary” becomes “chronic”. deGrom passed that point long ago.
DeGrom is the pitching equal of Giancarlo Stanton….teases you with promise, and then plumets you into despair!
Update: Degrom doesn’t miss a start and throws 6IP, 1 ER, and 11ks. Sorry to everyone who was wrong.