Free agent Shohei Ohtani has not made a decision on his next club, per reports from Ben Nicholson-Smith and Shi Davidi of Sportsnet and Alden Gonzalez of ESPN and others. Earlier today, a report from J.P. Hoornstra of Dodgers Nation relayed that the two-way superstar would be signing with the Blue Jays, though nothing has been made official as of yet. Ohtani was reported to be en route to Toronto by Jon Morosi of MLB.com, though Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports that Ohtani is at home in Southern California. Morosi has since retracted the report about Ohtani traveling to Toronto.
Ohtani’s free agency has been shrouded in secrecy by design, with the player and his reps preferring to keep the proceedings as private as possible. Recent reports have pegged the Jays, Dodgers, Giants, Angels and Cubs the finalists, though most of those clubs were hesitant to even admit they were involved, given Ohtani’s wishes. Blue Jays general manager Ross Atkins spoke with reporters via Zoom during the Winter Meetings and would not divulge where he was. Later reporting from Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic indicated that it was “believed” that Ohtani met with the Jays at their facilities in Dunedin, Florida at that time. There were also “rumblings” that Ohtani met with the Giants at Oracle Park, per Susan Slusser of The San Francisco Chronicle.
Dodgers manager Dave Roberts broke through this cone of silence earlier this week, frankly admitting that his club had recently met with Ohtani and identified him as a “top priority.” Many wondered if this plain-spoken approach would harm the Dodgers’ chances of signing Ohtani, given his clear desire for privacy. But Hoornstra reports it’s not believed that had any role in Ohtani’s choice, even a choice has even been made.
All of this has made it very difficult to secure concrete information about Ohtani’s market and what sort of discussions he was having with his suitors, though Morosi reported this morning that a decision was “imminent” and could be announced as soon as today.
ruff kuntry
Oh Canada!
DCartrow
Thought he wanted to go to a contender.
Fever Pitch Guy
Cartrow – They will be now. They already had the starting pitching, now their offense will be darn good too.
njbirdsfan
If Ohtani joining a team instantly makes them a contender…
Then explain why he’s never been to the playoffs, let alone won a division.
Zippy the Pinhead
@njbirdsfan Because the Angels never spent a dime on pitching. The Jays have a good staff. Now it’s time for all the other teams to overpay Bellinger.
CoolKidJoeXBL
Because Arte Moreno throws tons of cash at mid injury ridden fielders and gives his GM a whole dozen dollars to spend on pitching.
rct
Toronto won 89 games and made the playoffs without Ohtani last year. Anyone saying this doesn’t make the Blue Jays contenders is just fooling themselves. Sour grapes and pure jealousy.
infractor
This comment is particularly daft seeing as the Jays have made the playoffs 3 of the last 4 years. Adding the best player in the world to a playoff team does tend to make them a contender.
jhomeslice
Plus Vlad Jr had an off year. I’d put the odds of the Jays not making the playoffs if everybody is healthy at very slim now. They had a good shot before Ohtani, jeez. Very nice move, glad it is not LA!
AJSwims
You all forget the Yankees just got Juan Soto? That lineup is deadly, and Baltimore is a complete team. It’s not far fetched to say Toronto misses the playoffs and gets left holding that $600 mil bag.
BoJuBi
Have you seen the angels roster???
derekjeterfan2hof
Blue jays have incompetent manager if they sign ohtani they need to fire Schneider
migg
Not any team. A decent team
Jaysfansince92
The Jays made the postseason without him. You think they won’t with him?
Mets6986??
They were pretty good before. Let’s not act like they are bad.
Jaysfansince92
@AJSwims I think it is far more likely the Yankees end their one year of Soto with nothing to show for it than the Jays missing out on the playoffs.
Mets6986??
The Yankees have a lot of wholes Soto isn’t filling.
ckc12537
Because the Angels are quite possibly the worst pitching and defensive team over the past six seasons. It was stunning how abysmal they were visiting Houston over the past few years.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Daft punk is playing at my house, my house
ckc12537
Baltimore got swept by the Rangers. They’re by far not a complete team.
neurogame
To be fair, they did spend on pitching, just not on guaranteed good pitching.
Poolhalljunkies
Doesnt he just replace some of the production they sent away in teoscar and gurriel?
Fever Pitch Guy
rct – Especially if Vlad and Springer return to anything close to 2021 form.
coloredpaper
Angels. ‘Nuff said.
metslvt17
Because a contender is nothing but a team in contention. Nothing is guaranteed, especially in baseball
rct
@Fever: Totally. Adding a great bat like Ohtani makes them better, too. More pitches to see, likely more ABs with men on base.
avenger65
“Rumblings” in SF? That can’t be good.
avenger65
AJSwims: That lineup is potentially deadly for 2024. After that, it’s back to 2023 again.
enteluj88
Yankees still need two infielders, a catcher, and a ton of pitching. Soto might not make them that much better. If he alone had that power, the Padres would have been better last year, especially considering that on paper they had a better team than the Yankees, and were fairly healthy.
AngelBum
He is hardly the best player in the world!!!
Mets6986??
Did you say some of the production? Like those two are a tenth of the production of Ohtani.
weaselpuppy
Arte Moreno.
The end.
weaselpuppy
Yankees staff is suspect. Health of hitters/age decline is a huge issue. Volpe struggled w the bat. They could finish 4th, probably 3rd if Ohtani is in Toronto
Mrivers
Jays rotation is superior to the Yankees by quite a bit.
And now Yankees chances of getting Yamamoto just got real slim.
Goin' to Sheetz
Yankees are worse than Toronto even with Soto.
JaysnCards
Because the Angels never had the starting pitching or bullpen depth. Offense alone won’t do it
njbirdsfan
I can see it now…Ohtani calling out reporters after signing with Toronto anyway, for daring to “misreport” his signing when they had credible information to report.
Anyone else getting tired of his routine?
johncal25
Only issue with that is I can see Toronto actually trading Vlad now to recoup prospects and strengthen other areas. Cause they’re not gonna pay Vlad when he becomes a FA.
Ma4170
Of course he is when hes pitching too
Rexhudler86
He’s the best player in the universe
Pete'sView
enteluj88 – I dunno. I’m not a Yankee fan but their outfield and offense has been completely remade with Soto, Judge and Verdugo. Yes, they need a catcher and some starting pitching. But what a great way for NY to start the off season.
Soto will light up Yankee Stadium!
JaysnCards
Exactly 6986 on offense and pitching staff
JaysnCards
Could well be possible but I think they hold him for this season since he is still 2yrs away from being able to sign elsewhere
Moneyballer
Cuz the angels have never had the pitching to get them there. Other teams have this!
JaysnCards
With where things stand I would tend to agree. They need a seasoned guy to get them over the post season hump
luclusciano
I have seen multiple “Yankees need a catcher” – why? Trevino – a platinum glove will be back, and Wells can fit into a tandem role
Mrivers
Yes.
Less said about the Angels, the better.
cards1994
Exactly! 2nd Tommy John and his future in pitching is a huge ?. Easy to prove he is not the best hitter in AL much less baseball.
BoJuBi
But that’s a issue for 2 years from now, why would we trade vlad if we just signed ohtani that makes zero sense
SanDiegoSuperDissapointingPadres
I was really hoping for the barrage of Angel honks to post about their “elite” pitching staff, but looks like they finally got a clue!
Heidegger
You could say the same thing about the Jays though. Pitching was great (like the Yanks even with the injuries), several holes remain in the lineup (like the Yanks with their aging corner infielders).
Ohtani is not a guaranteed playoff ticket for the Jays at this point until they do a little more work. Same as adding Soto for the Yanks, except the Yanks added more than just Soto. I wouldn’t call Biggio or Espinal (or even Varsho) above average hitters, and I would say a comeback season for Springer is unlikely given his age. It’s still relatively early in the offseason to make a call- more trades can happen.
Rexhudler86
I think we know, it’s not that great. What about the padres lol.
Killer Refrigerator
Sounds like you’re a Yankees fan – so spare us the “unbiased” angle that you just posted and tried to slide by with. I’m a Red Sox fan and Soto to the Bronx is a good get for them… we’ll see what Breslow’s answer to that is. Sooner rather than later please.
metalhead
Like the contending Angels when they had Othani and Trout?
Rexhudler86
@njbitdsfan I would say the lineup isn’t that great when the only starter was ohtani, and you have nothing but triple a guys playing, and the guy you drafted in 1st round was playing in the mlb 2 weeks later. So yeah I would say that could be a problem it wasn’t just a couple guys it was the whole opening day roster.
Classicfinder
You had me at “daft”.
goalieguy41
Says the guy with zero baseball manager experience
Classicfinder
Sour grapes taste sour don’t they.
Rexhudler86
@cards1994 he didn’t have tommy John for his ucl injury. Look it up it’s internal brace surgery, the same doctor that did his first didn’t think it was serious enough. It’s also the same doctor that did Aaron Rodgers Achilles. Different injury but the same procedure. Could it require a tommy John down the road possibly, plenty of pitchers have two. It’s the third one that’s the problem. so he should be able to pitch through his contract
Classicfinder
Routine??? I won’t step on your lawn.
920kodiak
They do, but Soto might put up 50 jacks, with that short porch.
Heidegger
I agree
MLB Scout
LOOK!
Dave Roberts ruined the Dodgers’ hopes with his remarks and the Blue Jays are doing their best to acquire the services of Shohei Ohtani. The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim are clear favorites & were never the underdogs this free agency. Ohtani’s their guy & Shohei loves the team & fan base.
njbirdsfan
I disagree. My opinion, you put all your eggs in the Trout/Ohtani/Rendon basket, and then expect Moreno to just give you another blank check.
At a certain point, when you have two Hall of Famers on your team, it’s on you to lead the team to victory.
Funny how teams find pitching and don’t have to pay out the nose.
Enjoy the Ohtani cult though.
tmd
Question: When were the Jays last in the World Series? Making it to the playoffs is one thing. Not the same thing as being part of the World Series.
Pickle_Britches
They won’t miss the playoffs if they add Ohtani lol. Yankees got Soto but still need pitching. The Yankees need to go all in and get more pitching because after 24 they’ll have to re sign both Cole and Soto. That about 6-700 mill to get both lol
Pickle_Britches
Plus Monoah was dookie this year. He bounces back and Vlad Jr has a better year look out
Black Ace57
The fact that the Angels had Trout and Ohtani for so many years and couldn’t make the playoffs once goes to show what a travesty the management and ownership of the franchise has been. You can’t make the playoffs with two players, even two who are some of the best of the last 30 years, but that is a great starting point. With how mediocre to bad they were for so long with how they spent Arte would make the owners from Major League proud.
Pickle_Britches
Rangers have the best coach in MLB
99CaptainJudge99
@weaselpuppy- That’s nice wishful thinking, but highly unlikely. Has Othani’s jet landed in Canada yet? Please let us now when it arrives. Wait for it…
99CaptainJudge99
@Mrivers- Really? Please let me know when you wake up from all your delusion, hope you enjoyed the Jays being better then the Yankees last season. I wouldn’t get used to it, enjoy 3rd or 4th place this season in the AL East.
99CaptainJudge99
@Sheetz- I really wish you were a betting man. I wouldn’t let last season get to your head, trust me it will be short lived, even if you get lucky somehow and land Ohtani. Jays fan talk a lot of junk considering they’ve never won anything.
99CaptainJudge99
Nah Pete, Trevino and Wells should be fine behind the plate truthfully. If Yamamoto signs with the Mets or the Dodgers, expect the Yankees to try to get Jordan Montgomery back for 5 or 6 years. Monty seems to be a better pitcher since he left NY. We’ll see what happens.
OnlineFeatures
The blue jays with or without ohtani are not a contender
Ohtani isn’t pitching this year, the jays staff is horrible
JaysnCards
I agree @pickle but still love Gibby more. Even though he is the bench coach for the Mets he would be the perfect fit to lead this group of Jays if Ohtani joins the fold. 3 times a charm?!
Astros_fan_in_Aus
rct – Jays made the playoffs 2022 and 2023 by virtue of the wild card and got swept in both years. Sure they were there, but hardly serious contenders.
Best Screenname Ever
I don’t think there will be a bag to hold. Shohei is a Dodger, the only question is can he make the Dodgers pay closer to the Toronto offer.
letsplaytwo
Bochy is the manager, not a coach
Goin' to Sheetz
Not a Jays fan, it’s just obvious. Unless Cashman signs Yamamoto.
mrpappageorgio1 .
Nah, Rizzo was raking before concussion, Gleybar is in a walk year, Verdugo is infinitely greater than IKF in the outfield. Hal is finally turning the Yankees back into the evil empire and not done yet
Vlad is going to go the Prince Fielder route and eat himself out of a job. His best years are behind him. Toronto doesn’t have the moxy to spend money to surround Ohtani with the proper supporting cast and he will not win there. He will be a road block to other talent in Toronto
Iasounis
So the Jays (89 wins) aren’t a contender adding Ohtani, but the Yankees (bottom dwellers) ‘are’ by adding Soto??
Make it make sense.
Acell's Lil' Homie
Actually, you never know. Ohtani will only DH in ’24. Blue Jays still need pitching and the East is crazy.
Let’s also be for real- Ohtani’s not a Blue Jay yet.
Tigers3232
@Coolkid, which players were mid injury ridden fielders at the time of their signing??
Rendon had average roughly 145 games a season the 3 seasons prior to signing with Angels. 2 of those 3 seasons he was in top 6 of MVP voting and the 3rd he was 11th.
As for Pujols the 3 seasons prior to signing he won MVP, was runner up, and was 5th in the 3rd season.
So neither were obvious injury or regression risks. It’s easy to judge in hindsight, but when people do so without considering the environment at the time being judged its quite foolish…..
kingbum
Maybe not next year, the Yankees are going to score a ton of runs next season they fixed their offense pretty quick. Baltimore and Tampa won 99 games, Texas and Houston are definitely retooling and unless Cleveland decides its going to spend money Minnesota should win that division. The way things are currently you will have Tampa, New York, Toronto, and Seattle going after those final 2 spots….You also have to consider Boston will get into the spending this year too that’s why I say currently. I can see Toronto winning 89 or 90 games and missing those last spots should come down to the final weekend.
Tigers3232
@AJ, Soto without a doubt improves their lineup and is a great fit being someone who consistently gets on base. The additions of him and Verdugo in no way turn that lineup which was horrible last year to being lethal.
kingbum
To be fair it was a statistical anomaly what happened to the Padres last year. The Padres went 10-28 in one run games. That’s the worst record since 1935. The worst all-time is 7-31….If they won more of those games they are easily in the playoffs over Arizona. Usually it’s a sign you need a closer but they had Josh Hader. To me it’s an anomaly then that won’t be repeated.
JackStrawb
@jhomeslice It looks a great deal less like Vlad Jr had an off year than that 2021 was a fluke year, even a freak year. Otherwise his seasonal average pro rated for 2020 is a tame 2.5 bWAR, and 2.5 bWAR for 650 PA with all measures down dramatically compared to his lucky year. Even more, far more than Soto’s unrepeated 2021 season, Vlad’s 2021 is looking more and more like a complete outlier.
Assuming he’s going to rebound when he’s had all of a single star-caliber seasons is likely to be a mistake. As for his GG in 2022—jaysus. His fielding was below average even then before completely falling off horribly in ’23.
kingbum
Rizzo was out with a concussion, you never know what you will get from Torres or Stanton. If Stanton, Torres, and Rizzo play like they are capable with Judge, Soto, and Verdugo that team scores a ton.
JackStrawb
@AJSwims Who do people think Juan Soto is? Serious question.
On the books he’s a 5 win DH, a 4-5 fWAR DH in fact in 2022-2023. Why is anyone talking as if he’s 2016 Mike Trout? He’s not even 2019, 2021, 2023 Marcus Semien—and he’s not particularly close.
JackStrawb
There’s no reason to think that will be the case, though.
Springer’s 2023 was nearly identical in value to his 2021 season, where the Jays spread out his value by putting him in twice as many games in 2023, something that killed his value at the plate at 33. Springer was never aging gracefully. He’ll be lucky to put up 3 WAR in 2024, never mind repeat 2022.
As for Vlad, well, 2021 defines “fluke season.”
JackStrawb
Well said, though the Padres were almost certainly just unlucky on the team level. 92-70 Pythagorean record compared to their 82-80 record on the field. It happens to nearly every team, one way or the other—just usually not so extreme.
Baseball’s narratives are bound up in “grit” and “character,” which tends to conceal how much luck is involved in succeeding and failing, winning and losing. With ordinary luck the Padres would have won 92 games and the distance between them, the Dodgers, and the last wildcard would have left them well-rested, probably, going into the postseason.
JackStrawb
@Rexhudler Marcus Semien will give more value in 2024 than Ohtani. Start there. Much like Soto, though their value arrives differently, Ohtani’s a 5 WAR DH. That’s just about the limits of both, though freak seasons occasionally arrive.
He’s not going to magically confer a WS appearance on the Jays.
JackStrawb
Verdugo and Grisham are a big help until Dominguez gets back, but the Yankees gave up probably 3 WAR to get Soto’s 5 WAR, and the overlap at DH and in the OF probably ends up costing them another half win. That’s a huge premium to pay for a 1.5-2.5 WAR upgrade from Soto, and only in 2024 unless they’re forking out for both premium starting pitching AND pitching depth.
They may well have done better if they could have added Grisham and Verdugo, and kept King et al they otherwise dealt for Soto. That’s around 6 WAR, which Soto’s unlikely to reach (though it should be close) in 2024, not to mention giving up Thorpe. Ugh.
Add to that the $33m they’ll be paying Soto, and it was almost certainly a foolish, foolish trade.
bullred
Because Ben Nicholson-Smith and Shi Davidi of Sportsnet get to decide. How does two Toronto Blue Jays (Rogers) shills get to decide that a decision hasn’t been made? Share your overlord source.
konalawrence
Because he needed to have at least one other superstar on the team. Oh wait…
Tigers3232
@Kingbum, when you have to say “IF” that’s a big red flag. And let’s be real here Stanton in his age 34 season is far from the player who had some great seasons with the Marlins. As for Torres he played pretty much exactly to his capabilities last season which is about .270 BA with 20-25 HRs. That’s been his production every season aside from juiced ball 2019. Rizzo also going into age 34 season, if healthy his capabilities look to be about .250 BA 30 HRs.
You are just looking at names and not taking an objective look at where these players and their skillsets are or how they ve traded statistically.
iverbure
Why do fans who have no clue what they’re talking about reference a short playoff series and pretend the rest of the 162 games don’t matter?
hittingnull
The Angels. Explained.
99CaptainJudge99
I strongly disagree with you, Soto makes the Yankees so much better. The Yankees want and need him a lot more then San Diego ever did. We’ll see what happens this season, and if I’m right.
Acell's Lil' Homie
With the stupid ghost runner rule, that anomoly can easily happen again.
99CaptainJudge99
Yeah me either, that’s the plan to sign Yamamoto. Hearing 3 teams, Mets, Yankees or the Dodgers,?
99CaptainJudge99
Is Ohtani pitching in 2024, did I miss something? Please let me know.
99CaptainJudge99
Yes I definitely agree with you. The Blue Jay fans are “prematurely getting excited” when we don’t even know where Ohtani is going yet. I would love to see their faces if it’s somewhere else when he decides! LOLOL!
CleaverGreene
Godzilla?
Ella B
If Cole decides to opt out after next season, all the Yankees have to do is give him a 9th year at $36 million to keep him. If the Yankees want to let him become a FA they can but they won’t. A strange contract but it is what it is.
slider32
Yes, but he makes them much better on paper, but they lost some good players like Chapman. They need Hader more than they need Ohtani. Remember he didn’t win in Cali. Pitching wins, and if I was the Jays I would add to the pen with 2 quality arms and you have a chance. The problem is pitching is outlier!
slider32
Actually, the position that has the lowest WAR according to Fangraphs is 1B.
Halo11Fan
How much has Minasian spent on bad pitching? It’s well over 100 million dollars.
How he has a job is beyond me.
Andrew-UK
Because if he joins the Jays he will push them over the top. They made the playoffs anyway without him.
The Angels, on the other hand, are rubbish, Ohtani clearly makes them better, but not enough better.
Andrew-UK
Agree, but so do the Jays.
SonnySteele
Besides, professional prognosticators need a reason not to pick Baltimore to win the NL East next year. 😉
SonnySteele
No crying either. 😉
SonnySteele
Too bad Bartolo Colon is retired when the Yankees need “a ton of pitching.” 😉
ckc12537
and the astros no longer have the worst
Nickybeisbol
Baltimore lacks pitching.
Nickybeisbol
They have verdugo as well. That OF alone can mash anyone
DakotaJoe
he probably told his agent he wants to be in LA and the agent is using Toronto to gain leverage on one of the LA clubs, probably the Dodgers.
DakotaJoe
Verdugo is over-rated.
Yankee Clipper
Objectively, the Blue Jays and Yankees are set to be very, very close statistically. To claim either is better hands-down at this stage is not a fair or objective assessment. Honestly, the greatest impact on their finish will be which team navigates injuries most effectively.
Pete'sView
I thought Montgomery was kinda pissed at the Yanks when they let him go. Am I mistaken? I think he goes back to the Rangers.
Yankee Clipper
I tend to agree with you, Pete. I have him going to TX as well; but he was very close with the players on NY, for what that’s worth. I think it ultimately comes down to the offer though.
Pete'sView
Clipper — And I think, if the Giants lose out on Yamamoto, they will be in on Montgomery.
Yankee Clipper
That’s a good call. He seems perfect for their style of preferred pitcher (admittedly, I’m no expert on the Giants coaching pitching staff though). If you guys acquired him I think you’d be very pleased. He’s a very durable, talented pitcher obviously. A very nice complement to Logan Webb.
nukeg
Unfortunately yes.
neurogame
The majority if their starting pitching is in their 30s (Gausman – 32, Kikuchi – 32 and Bassitn- 34) with Kikuchi being in the last year of his deal. The long term doesn’t bode well unless they start bringing up rookies or spending more money on FA arms,
RShore05
I was very surprised they decided to bring Schneider back for another season. I thought the writing was on the wall when they brought Donnie Baseball in as his Bench Coach. I think he could be on a short leash when the season starts, especially if they do end up signing Ohtani.
RShore05
@Mets6986???-Lol! Exactly what “HOLES” doesn’t Soto fill for the Yankees? Bc I’m pretty sure he filled a couple of “holes/needs”. He fills a corner OF need, a need for a LH bat, and a middle of the order bat who hits for power, gets on base, and doesn’t strikeout a lot. All of which was something the Yankees lineup has lacked and needed desperately over the last few seasons. The Yankees had a MAJOR need for a power LH corner OF bat this off-season, and they were able to fill that with one of, if not the best LH corner OF hitter in the MLB. So your “wholes” comment makes absolutely zero sense, tighten up.
corrosive23
He and trout must want to miss the playoffs every year for the length of their careers.
jhomeslice
@corrosive Jays made the playoffs in 2022 and 2023. But you’re right, no chance of them making the playoffs now with Ohtani (eyes rolling). Maybe you should bet some people on Ohtani not making the playoffs with the Jays, you sound really smart.
its_happening
Springer
Bo
Ohtani
Vlad
Kirk
Varsho
Jansen
Biggio
Espinal
That lineup doesn’t make the playoffs. Jays need more than Shohei.
Mets6986??
???? What world are you loving in?
ckc12537
lol
pd14athletics
That lineup looks pretty good to me actually, even with you putting two catchers into the batting order for some reason. I get that Kirk has been DH some, but Ohtani will be the full time DH in this scenario. So replace the catcher in the lineup that isn’t catching with Davis Schneider or whoever else they sign to play OF.
its_happening
It’s not good enough. This also hinges on the starting pitching remaining healthy and effective. Jays are nowhere close to being done. The Yankees have improved. Baltimore has talent still coming up from the minors and we can’t sleep on the Rays.
enteluj88
You know that a variation of that lineup DID make the playoffs last year, right? It’s not like Belt, Kiermaier and Merrifield are irreplaceable. And, who says they’d be done making moves after signing Ohtani? Ownership wouldn’t be approving a $500-$600 million investment to field a losing team. Besides, you’ve got two 2Bs in that lineup. They’re still going to add another outfielder.
Travis’ Wood
Clueless, post the rays lineup or orioles or Red Sox. Jays is much better
its_happening
rols let’s see here…O’s and Rays were ahead of the Jays last year and the Yankees landed Verdugo and Soto. They need pitching. They also won the division in 2022.
By saying the Jays need more than Ohtani is like you saying the Angels won the division every year with Trout and Ohtani. What, they didn’t need more than that???????
BoJuBi
Are you crazy thinking espinal is a starter? And Biggio I’m assuming is a starting outfielder? Why is there 2 catchers in the lineup. Like what in the???
its_happening
Espinal is your current 3B. What have I been saying? Jays need more than Ohtani and yet people don’t seem to get it! Are you grasping it now? Jays need to fill more holes. Lineup not deep enough. Yet.
BoJuBi
Then why post that lineup like it makes any sense? The positions don’t even fit
its_happening
If the season started today Espy is the Jays 3B. What are you talking about?
JaysnCards
Espinal wouldn’t be the starter on the hot corner. He more or less tanked last season. Probably plug Schneider in. I otherwise agree with you the Jays would be far from finished revamping the line up before Feb.
its_happening
Schneider can’t play 3B well defensively. Not pretty like his stache. Jays also have not given Orelvis Martinez enough 3B reps either, perhaps because he too struggles at 3B defensively.
As it stands today, Espy is the 3B.
Travis’ Wood
They were a contender the past two years…. Do you follow baseball?
its_happening
They were tied for 6th rols. Squeaked in. If that’s contention to you I’d say you’re clueless.
bigdaddyt
Best rotation in the league without Ohtani, top 5 bullpens and a lineup that struggled to score but was still one of the best hitting teams last year. Ya jays aren’t good I guess
Anthony maresca
Congratulations but good luck extending Guerrero and Bichette as those guys are each getting $350+ million. Jays simply cannot keep them all.
bigdaddyt
That’s a problem that they can figure out after the next 2 seasons
terrymesmer
And don’t forget: “Blue Jays win Team Gold Glove Award in the American League”
Dumpster Divin Theo
Meh. Bichette happens
Jaysfansince92
FWIW there have been reports management was given 2 budgets. One that included Ohtani and o e that didn’t with the former being a fair bit larger. It has also been reported that Rogers Communications sees Ohtani more as a Rogers business expense than a baseball expense. They own the team, the Dome, the radio station they are broadcast on, the tv sports network they are broadcast on, and the cable company that provides the sports network. They stand to make a lot of money off Ohtani. They also provide home internet and mobile phones. All of this is Canada wide as well. It’s not just in the Toronto area.
In short it is no gaurantee that they lose Bo and Vlad due to this contract.
JaysnCards
Exactly! The Jays have 2 years of Bo and Guerrero still. If they get Ohtani and Guerrero only has another decent season and not a repeat of 2021 he gets shipped next off season. Bo won’t be going anywhere
JaysnCards
That’s right and they will drop their hockey deal after another couple seasons which will free up more money to sign either of them. Deep pockets to say the least
its_happening
You didn’t watch the Jays if you really believe they were the best hitting teams.
They need more than Ohtani to contend in 2024. Expect an injury or two on the mound. They need depth in the batting order. That’s should be common knowledge.
drasco036
Money talking. I’m guessing 600 million
chiefnocahoma1
I doubt it’ll be that high. The south side of 500MM sounds more like it.
99CaptainJudge99
Thinking the Dodgers now might have to sign the next best thing: Cody Bellinger(reunion) since nobody wants to sign with Giants(except Arson Judge & @gfan, of course) Lolololololol!!!
fonz13
Canadian money lol
Anthony maresca
Bellinger going to Giants for 10/250. He wont get that from anyone else if he is all about money.
99CaptainJudge99
Dodger money lol
ckc12537
Hahah 12 year $815 million deal (600 mil USD)
Classicfinder
That is a lot of loonies, Tim Horton’s, maple syrup, poutine, and Molson.
sangroazul
As AC/DC would say, “Come on , come on, listen to the money talk.”
99CaptainJudge99
They aren’t a contender? If they weren’t, they definitely are now.
99CaptainJudge99
I’d give good money just to see Dodger fans face’s right now.
Jerry Hairston Jr's Toupee
Idc either way if they spend money on one guy or spread it out among a bunch of guys. Baseball isn’t an individual sport and has alotta roster spots to fill on a team…..
Jaysfansince92
I can’t imagine how Dodger’s management must feel now. All the maneuvering the did to keep payroll down for Ohtani over the last couple years and have it be for nothing. As you mentioned the fans must be in shock as well considering it supposed to be a formality.
Jerry Hairston Jr's Toupee
Not the first time they’ve missed out in free agency. There’s always a plan B….
JaysnCards
Right! A lot in utter disbelief
CommentsSectionCommenter
@Jaysfansince
As a Dodgers fan, I won’t dare to speak for others.
But freeing up the half-billion to fill the team’s actual needs (2 frontline starters, 3B, LF) is a wonderful consolation prize.
Ohtani is a great player and it would’ve been nice to sign him–no matter how much of an albatross that contract might become, particularly for a 2-time TJ recipient. But now that the circus has left town, LA can get down to actual business.
All good on this end, and have fun with misanthrope….
Not a clever name
Jays fan, that’s didn’t age well. I feel for you guys. As a Giants fan we get used to this.
Braves Butt-Head
The Jays could easily fall to 4th place even with an Ohtani who isn’t gonna pitch next season. It’s that tough of a division and the Red Sox could improve as well there’s no soft teams in that division
enteluj88
Correct, It also means that the Yankees, Orioles or Rays could also fall to 4th.
JaysnCards
@braves butthead unlikely but definitely possible as it’s always the toughest division. That being said imo both Tampa and especially Baltimore overachieved last season
Baseball_dude
He does, he just doesn’t wanna go to a team that’s a guaranteed choke artists in the playoffs
JaysnCards
Hahaha bitter much! Book the parade for late October in T.O. baby!!!!
Niekro floater
Just Ohtani n his agent turning the screw to milk out lil more on Dodgers offer, Toronto please, doesn’t even speak Canadien or he can remain in his current Home, be paid kings ransom, n play on biggest stage in beautiful sunny southern california n be baseball God.
Tigers3232
@Niekro did u say “doesn’t speak Canadian”?? English and French are the primary languages spoken in Canada. Ohtani knows some English but doesn’t speak it fluently and most always has an interpreter.
Regardless of where he signs he ll be paid a kings Ranson. As far as becoming a baseball God, why would LA be the place to go??? They have had 1 player who has fit that bill in Koufax. There are numerous other franchises that have been far more effective at producing “baseball Gods”.
unpaidobserver
They instantly become a contender…because he signed with them.
CeruleanDrew
Hmm. A willfully ignorant or intellectually dishonest comment? Or both? Either way you garnered attention if that was your end game. Congrats, DCartrow.
padam
MLBTR contest percentages just went down across the board.
deweybelongsinthehall
Ain’t that the truth…
Rexhudler86
@padam all this means is dodgers are out. It was one of their writers, Probably heard that much.
Hemlock
but but but!
He only wants to play on the Left Coast!
surfdoc37
Sort of the left coast of Lake Erie.
Slow day at work
I think you meant West Coast. Absolutely no one (with a functioning brain) calls it the “Left” coast
unpaidobserver
Maybe hes just tired of the anti asian racism south of the border…
Silas
get a clue dude
Fever Pitch Guy
ruff – Wonder what will happen to all the commenters here who insisted they had some kind of inside knowledge that he was going to the Dodgers.
They will likely do what they always do, disappear and pretend it never happened!
AJSwims
$600mil for MAYBE two more seasons on the mound, assuming he remains effective.
That’s gonna cripple that franchise for the next 10 years
Travis’ Wood
Maybe 2 more seasons in the mound?? You’re just making crap up lol
AJSwims
Two elbow surgeries…he doesn’t have much longer as a pitcher in this league.
$600 mil DH
Rexhudler86
He didn’t get tommy John surgery this time around.
Datashark
That is what they all say before TJ2- once contract is signed
Rexhudler86
That’s what his doctor said the one who did his first tommy John, it was internal brace surgery.
HBRC1987
It was still elbow surgery
drasco036
You’re stupid if you think it will, if this rumor is true, buy stock in Roger’s Communications
Rexhudler86
The blue swallows signed shoey ohtami, sources unknown not even sure who the team or player is.
Longtimecoming
And the Dodger fans all come out and say – “oh, we didn’t want him anyway.”
MotownWings
You clearly have no idea who owns the Jays and how deep that corporations pockets are.
A'sfaninLondonUK
@AJ Swims
No it won’t, and it wouldn’t cripple any franchise. Ohtani will cover 2/3 of his salary in merchandise.
Stealing Signs
$30-40 MM in broadcast rights to Japan + in game advertising.
Increased attendance, merchandise sales, concessions & parking.
Increased ad revenue as well. Rogers will profit from Ohtani.
99CaptainJudge99
I love this! Best thing in the world for the AL East!
Shadow_Banned
When Vegas odds gives you The Dodgers, bet against them.
Vegas is never going to give you the actual team and want to lose.
User 2079935927
Vegas wouldn’t let people bet on something that controlled by a person’s decision
Shadow_Banned
The Dodgers Dodged a bullet, he seems mighty expensive for a $60MM a year DH
AJSwims
I hate the Dodgers, and I was really hoping they would drop that kind of money on him just so I could laugh at Dodgers fans when his elbow goes after another season. I guess they got smart though…
BoJuBi
Hater
trout27
Shohei Ohtani is the best player in MLB, maybe the best ever. If by some chance he can’t pitch any more the he won’t be a DH. He will become one of the best defensive OF or 1B in baseball while being a top five hitter for the next several years.
Unless you have watched him every day you can’t appreciate what he can do on the field. He also is worth 10s of millions each year in marketing for his team. He will be the face of MLB for the next several years.
I’m sure that his contract will back load a lot of salary and the contract may come with a opt out or two.
As an Angels fan, I am sad that Moreno wouldn’t allow his GM to build a team around him that could compete. I will be rooting hard for Toronto and hope Ohtani continues to be the best.
AngelBum
He only had two solid years out of six with the Angels!
Rexhudler86
@angelbum thanks for letting everyone know you don’t watch baseball.
Silas
lol not even close
l9ydodger
Shadow_Banned;
I agree. Before Ohtani hurt his arm last season I was hoping the Dodgers would sign him, but not so much now, especially for the money that’s still being reported. They need to address their starting pitching and a corner outfielder. Maybe even a third baseman.
Lots of money needs to be spent these positions!
99CaptainJudge99
Hey Dodgers no soup for you!
Highwaymenace
California routinely released cherry picked statistics that give the illusion they are a major world economy, they are not. They put their economic numbers full of government spending against countries that do not include the same government spending numbers. California isn’t even a top 20 worldwide economy, and spends hundreds of billions more in tax revenue than they collect from taxes. Don’t be fooled by ridiculous government propaganda.
M.C.Homer
Easy 50Cal. The Texans are already suffering due to the horrible weather and crazy property taxes.
Rise above the ignorance.
Who cares about envious opinions?
The rest of the country hates us so much the twisted hair brained opinions bred from that is just comical.
We should secede from our “enemies”
User 1413108128
U.S. state and local government outstanding debt 2021, by state. In 2021, the federal state of California had about 541.24 billion U.S. dollars of debt outstanding, the most out of any state. New York, Texas, Illinois, and Florida rounded out the top five states with the most debt outstanding in 2021.
Don’t blame me, I just copied and pasted from who keeps track.
Blue Baron
@Darth Pug: Of course the largest states with the largest budgets have the largest debt loads. Duh.
Brew88
Never trust reports on a Friday
Blue Baron
@50Cal213: Oh Canada, our home and native land!
Blue Baron
@ruff kuntry: Our home and native land!
Scream_name
Dodgersnation trying to throw a wrench in the works.
99CaptainJudge99
Not so fast Tiger! We can’t find Shohei right now!
Larry Bernandez 1324IM
It’ll be the Giants for 3 days.
gravel
Oh the pain.
roob
Fake news. My cousin saw him at the airport in Kansas City and he’s signing with the Royals.
Best Screenname Ever
Pretty simple game plan which MLB should not put up with past this weekend. I imagine the desperate Blue Jays have offered far more than the Dodgers, where Ohtani intends to go. Shohei’s team wants to get the LAD offer as close to the Toronto offer as they can, Meanwhile, MLBPA doesn’t like the idea that he’s leaving maybe 100MM on the table, maybe more, because he’s not going to go to Canada. And MLB finds it embarrassing that a player will give up a fortune to not go to Canada. So there we have it. Shohei to the Dodgers, maybe $400MM, turning down $6ooMM from Canada.
gardyparty
I love this lol. Just the chaos of it all. It’s a weirdly plausible theory too! Not that we’ll ever find out whether or not it’s true.
Rickover50
Please just stop until he signs.. this is silly. Where did he have dinner? Favorite dessert ?
DarkSide830
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
Hemlock
TOROhtani
Balk
Congrats, I’m glad he’s not in the national league west with the Dodgers
99CaptainJudge99
I heard Giancarlo Stanton is available for the Dodgers right now. Lol.
User 2079935927
Can’t play hurt foot on bullpen gate Ouch!!!
PinstripedPride
For real though, if Ohtani does sign with Toronto there could be an opening to send Stanton to LA. He’d agree to waive his NTC for that, I’m sure
Balk
I’m sure they would rather bring back Jd though
Yoki
SHOronto.
Dumpster Divin Theo
TorOHTonto
Dumpster Divin Theo
Canadohtani
fivepoundbass
Candiotti?
Fever Pitch Guy
Dark – It’s really not a surprise.
The owner of the Jays is Rogers Communications.
Ohtani will become a national hero, the greatest Blue Jay ever.
And all his games will be broadcast by Rogers Communications.
The additional revenue in TV ratings and ticket sales and merchandise will more than surpass Ohtani’s contract.
AJSwims
Assuming they contend every season of his contract, which I don’t see happening. He’s not even pitching this next season, and has MAYBE two more seasons left from the mound. After that the franchise will be crippled financially. He won’t even be the biggest Japanese star in the game after this season.
dh4all
Your nuts. He hit over 40 homers last year. He’s a monster at the plate.
BoJuBi
Why do you not see that happening? Do you own a crystal ball? Otherwise you can’t even tell me who’s all the contenders are next season nevermind the future? We’re the dbacks contenders? Don’t lie amd say yes
gbs42
AJ, do has anything to support your contention Ohtani will only pitch MAYBE two more seasons?
Terrier1980
Either that or he becomes a huge burden on the franchise like Pujols and Miggy while the Jays struggle to compete for a decade..
Taejonguy
and Roger’s will continue to reap in the cash
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
You’re right fever. When I was in Victoria Canada this summer every Blue Jays game was on the Television in every Sports Bar. They ARE the national team.
DarkSide830
Well, I mean, I had expected LAD. Not a crazy shock, to be fair.
rememberthecoop
Welcomed by whom? Only the maple syrup drinking Canadians lol.
ssowl
Wow
Skipp504
huh?
User 2079935927
Glad it’s not the Dodgers
Rocker49
Shocked it wasn’t Los Karens
geg42
?
Smelly_Cobb
That’s what he calls the doyers, apparently
yogineely
Aren’t puns supposed to rhyme slightly to be funny or clever
DeusSexMachina
As a Dodgers fan, me too. He’s amazing but his elbow, the size of the contract, the length of time, I was never convinced it was the right move.
joe_roc
You might be the only one
DeusSexMachina
Well me and my brother lol, so there’s two of us
SoCalHardBall
I agree with Machina. Generational talent, but how long on the mound? Now the Dodgers should go spend that $500mm on pitching and a shortstop
bleedingblue1996
Yep. Never thought the dodgers were front runners. Andrew Friedman and FOs highest priority has always been flexibility. Committing 500-600 million to have your DH spot locked in for 10 years would be absurd for the front office.
bullred
As a Jays fan, me too. I would have signed with the Dodgers. I guess he is wired differently. I am shaking! I don’t believe it is real. I’ve got to calm down until it has been verified.
AJSwims
Oh, I wanted it to be the Dodgers. Sinking $60 mil plus a year into a DH would have been fun to watch fall apart.
HBRC1987
Yeah ohtani will be a bust
zack novotny
Um Wow?
Slow day at work
no Shotime for you!
TAKERDBACKS
Wow!! Congrats!
reno24
At least its not the Dodgers
jdgoat
Omfg we are so back
HCCanuck
Let’s F’N go!!!
Mystery13
This seems surreal and not true. Wtf
Mystery13
That new update doesn’t make me happy
Taejonguy
this should end the Shatkins bs…
IHLgulls
I felt it in my nuggets
jfv33
In my plums!!
Mustard Tiger
I’m glad it’s not the Dodgers and I’m a Dodgers fan. Too much risk for the money. He will end up being a high priced DH.
mlbdodgerfan2015
You may be right. Probably a blessing in disguise, as great of a hitter Ohtani is. Can now sign some SP. JDM probably back too.
bullred
Your right but we can’t think about that right now. Worry about it when it happens.
bullred
I would like to see the contract more front loaded for that reason. Maybe 50 mil in 2024 , 70 mil in 25-26, 60 mil in 27-28 etc. as long as there isn’t opt outs to worry about.
Rocker49
Shocked it wasn’t Los Karens!
Zippy the Pinhead
I think I read that somewhere.
UncommonSense
How many times are you gonna make the same joke that doesn’t even make sense?
Dumpster Divin Theo
That’s what she said
Travis’ Wood
Lol they’ll make back most of it from marketing and merchandise
mlbdodgerfan2015
Sure some of it is made up in marketing and merchandising but Dodgers already do very well in those areas so they get less of a relative boost from that versus other teams.
It’s harder to reset that luxury tax with such a lengthy and concentrated contract.
Don’t get me wrong it would have been very fun to have Ohtani, Betts and Freeman in same lineup but such is life. Onto Yamamoto, who is a real need for the Dodgers.
AJSwims
You’ve got another Japanese star coming into the league this season which is going to literally split that, and maybe worse. Even Ohtani can be surpassed, and after his next elbow injury, which will be two years at best, that contract will be franchise crippling.
User 2079935927
Angel fan here. You could be right. 2nd elbow surgery. I hope the Jay’s medical team did their homework.
SHAMROCKYOASS60803
How do you say 500 million in Canadien?
reno24
I saw a report that is saying its 10 years $600 million
For Love of the Game
US$ or CA$???
geg42
~$815 MM Canadian
Loony toons
bullred
Lol
high_upside
Here in Canada it’s pronounced 800 million
dumper
That lineup is formidable
skyrider1011
Toronto and Atlanta will have the best offenses in baseball
agood
I guess winning wasn’t his number one priority after all
ThonolansGhost
Usually it’s all about the $.
gbs42
Why do you say that? Where would he sign that would make you say winning was his #1 priority?
Dustyslambchops23
Dodgers have 1 WS win in the last 30 years lol
DeusSexMachina
That’s one more than most teams. But I think he means winning as being in contention year in and year out. The Jays don’t do that.
holycow16
Do they though?….
DeusSexMachina
You know they do, but you can claim it doesn’t count if you like. Would you like a do over?
geg42
1 real one
Wire to wire 2024
*
DarkSide830
Could have said the same with him going to LAD too.
Travis’ Wood
Huh???? The jays are good?? What’re you talking about?
high_upside
Amazing! Game changer
Oddball Hererra
After Ohtani and Soto join the division, the Orioles will jump in in the arms race by acquiring…
Oh wait, no one, who am I kidding
Cedric Lee
They got kimbrel
Hemlock
> They got kimbrel
Kimbrel ‘N bits and gravy bits
Asfan0780
Cole irvin bounce back season.
Armaments216
Mike Trout. Angels fire sale begins today.
windmill_noise_causes_cancer
Boom goes the dynamite!!1!
cwsOverhaul
Trade Vlad for a haul
Champ world champion Texas Rangers
Texas wants Vlad
BoJuBi
A haul of what that would help us more then guerrero does now?
10centBeerNight
And just like that, NYY are #4 in AL east again
10centBeerNight
Will be Nightengale-like if someone jumped the gun here
bumptiousrex
I guess Farhan’s offer of unlimited Gilroy garlic fries couldn’t get it done.
gravel
Poutine may have been the Blue Jay’s offer.
PhilliesFan91
Calling it , Jays sign Ohtani & Boston gets Yamamoto
Oddball Hererra
Going out on a limb there calling that Ohtani signing
Dumpster Divin Theo
Soto is getting traded next, to an East coast team. Maybe the Mets, Nats or Uankees
Blah blah blah
get ready to learn Canadian, buddy
dumper
Man, he is still learning english, and now he’s got to learn canadian?
Ducey
At least he will learn proper English.
spudchukar
With a French accent!
AngelsMinion
This legit made me laugh!
bullred
For sure, I know what yer talkin’ boot .
tedtheodorelogan
He’s not your buddy, friend.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Hee not your friend, guy
2012orioles
Add “eh?” After everything you say. Done
Blue Baron
And learn how to say “poutine,” “Molson’s,” and “going oot and aboot,” eh.
BoJuBi
Do you guys actually think we all speak French? It’s Toronto lmao
dumper
Oui.
CheapazMariners
John Stanton #selltheteam
Simm
Dave Roberts curse
shibbynotdude
So all that talk about wanting to be on a team that consistently makes the playoffs was just that… talk
Travis’ Wood
Lol what????
tuna411
Jays made the playoffs 3 of the last 4 seasons and 5 of the last 9.
shibbynotdude
I’m sorry, you’re right. I forgot they made the ALCS back to back.
Ska0_Kmbappe1
I’m a diehard dodger fan and I’m hoping he goes to the Bluejays, I don’t think a contract to that degree is worth it..something high on salary and short on years…we need pitching and we can trade our prospects and keep it moving, congrats to them
Clofreesz
Yikes!
Longtimecoming
Well at least he will wear Blue – can’t wait for the Dodger faithful. Don’t put all of your eggs in one basket sounds about right.
tedtheodorelogan
As a Giants fan, I fully expect the Dodgers, Yankees, and Mets to swoop up all the remaining desirable players over the next week, leaving the Giants with nothing.
soxshortstop
Wait…..Chaim Breslow just signed Whit, Seth and JBJ
Dustyslambchops23
Holy freaking eh
ThonolansGhost
Congratulations to the Blue Jays, it looks like they mean business.
desertdawg
I had a gut feeling that he was going north of the border. I read a while back that he wanted to go to a team that was not a big press conglomerate, he likes his privacy away from the game. He also said he wanted to go to a promising young team that had a lot of offensive tools..
bullred
Um, I hope he didn’t say that cause that ain’t happening. Rogers will be putting his picture on every item and product they sell in Canada. His face will be everywhere and on every billboard. Sorry Shohei.
Candy Maldonado
Welp. At least it’s not the Dodgers.
gbs42
Why would he sign a one-year deal when he can get >$500M now?
Clofreesz
The team’s making sure he can stay healthy after getting hurt last year.
SJKinMD
Exiled to Siberia.
shortstop
Sell the team Arte! All time blunder to not put a good team around Ohtani!!!
dh4all
Yes, so many blunders wasting too much Trout time.
stretch123
Now flip Vlad to the Marlins for Luzardo lol
One can dream
Mystery13
No f’n way. Now they will sign Yamamoto and trade Manoah and Springer
ellisd19830
What’s better than a new city of fans? A new country of fans!
wvsteve
I will wait til one of the big boys tweets it
Wire to wire 2024
I’d like to see if Derek Johnson and a change of scenery could get manoah back on track, I mean he couldn’t cost too much why not take a chance
aragon
Good luck!
This one belongs to the Reds
Congrats Jays fans.
May the Cito be with you.
DanUgglasRing
Dave Roberts just got “old yellered” in the parking lot.
aragon
That parking lot is still owned by ‘Boston parking lot attendant’. Haha!
CravenMoorehead
Bro is gonna get the Duracell treatment on opening day at Dodgers Stadium every time he leaves the dugout
Halo11Fan
Good for the Blue Jays.
I’m glad I don’t have to see him in a Dodger Uniform.
I’m glad the Angels DH slot isn’t locked up.
I’m glad the Angels don’t have to go to a six man rotation.
I’m sad I no longer have this wonderful person to watch play for my team.
Tanana and Ryan and Two Days of Cryin’
Well said!
dh4all
I’m with ya.
robw5555
I will admit I was wrong. I wont hide like others do. I was very sure it would be Dodgers or Angels, SF wouold surprise me a bit. I did not think Toronto would be it, no matter. I know there were Blue Jays fans who said that they have the bucks to come in with the biggest offer etc. Again VERY surprised.
gardyparty
I believed in my heart he was gonna be a Giant. I feel bad for all those Giants fans I convinced of this. Fortunately I personally am not a Giants fan. But I actually do feel sad for them today.
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
Yep me too. Thought it was the Giants for sure 100%.
bag o ballz
as a giants fan honestly between ohtani and yamamoto I would rather the giants get yamamoto – younger, cheaper and solidifies a rotation this year. for me yamamoto and lee would be a great offseason
agnes gooch
gardy, I’m a massive Giants fan and I couldn’t be happier!
gardyparty
Appreciate you telling me that, Agnes. Legitimately. I weirdly feel like I let down a bunch of Giants fans lol.
DarkSide830
No one is “hiding”. Most of the world will admit they thought it would be LAD.
Ma4170
I thought since last summer there was no doubt it was the dodgers and am still surprised its not
gardyparty
Blue Jays signing Shohei is really gonna force the Yankees to sign Yamamoto. I’m OK with this.
PhilliesFan91
Actually boston is going to get him or the cubs
Ma4170
I think its basically yankees mets or dodgers just bc of the money theyll be willing to spend
Murphy NFLD
Yankees and jays game are going to be unreal for a few years now. i think they knew and thats why the yankees went out and got soto after turning him down for price reasons. I bet the Padres gave them a heads up when the jays backed off
DanUgglasRing
If the Giants don’t sign Yamamoto there will be riots.
gardyparty
@DanUgglasRing One of our cities is gonna have some riots, in that case. (Just imagine if the Mets sign Yamamoto lol)
bag o ballz
i don’t see why
gardyparty
Because we just traded away one-third of our pitching depth for one year of Juan Soto!
Mystery13
I still don’t believe this could be happening
Salzilla
How the actual best player in baseball go from the Angels to the Blue Jays? Like, dude, what are you thinking? Go to a big name classic team where your legacy can thrive and really become legend. Ooof, talk about doubling down on bad judgement calls.
Murphy NFLD
If he wants privacy then Canada is better for him, outside of real jays fans no 1 will recognize him. Now he has 2 whole countries rooting for him. Also half of Canada’s population is how many people are in California. Calli and NY state added together have as many ppl as all of Canada
Salzilla
Dies he though? His actions never seemed to suggest that .
YourDreamGM
California Canada roughly the same. California had a a million or so more last I checked.
sirchaseph
Have you seen LA? I live in OC, and let me tell you, LA sucks man. I am reasonably certain that to a guy like Ohtani, getting out of a disgusting city like LA and going somewhere like Toronto was a massive draw.
titanic struggle
Exactly.. he would hit 50-60 HR a year at GABP, and with all the young talent they have, he’d be getting sized for a ring year after year for a decade! GO REDS!
Go Go Power Rangers
Wow. So does Dave Roberts lose his job or…
Salzilla
The dude did the one thing Shoei said not to. He should be a Dodger for sure (if not a Yankee).
YourDreamGM
Nope. Dodgers gm should lose job.
Rick Wilkins
I keep telling myself I’ll stop checking my phone for FA news every 2 minutes once Ohtani signs, but then I’ll just check every 3 minutes to see where Belly is going, and YY, and Dylan Cease news, etc. Addictions are unhealthy, but baseball got me about 35 years ago, and I’ve been hitting the vein since. I always tell my family it will be over once the season ends, but then you have the awards and the hot stove, and next thing you know, it’s pitchers and catchers time. Go Baseball.
spudchukar
Cards fan here, but I love your post!
titanic struggle
Just come clean with your family Bro.. they’ll understand.. lol
clubberlang
Boring
Travis’ Wood
Opposite of boring lol
robw5555
Last year I felt it was Steve Cohen because he would not be outbid. I dont think the Mets made a bid. Maybe the inury scared them off I dont know.
Bobcastelliniscat
Othani said he could not see himself playing in NY. There is life west of the Hudson.
newpony13
Toronto is barely west, still the east. But very cool city and way more managed than nyc
newpony13
Manageable
Miles-
Wow. Surprised, shocked and intrigued. But hey, should be entertaining in the AL East. Super curious to know what the other offers were.
hiflew
If he wanted to be on a third place team for the rest of his career, then why didn’t he stay in with the Angels?
shortstop
Hey now, unfair shot at the Angels… they are a fourth place team, not third.
Monkey’s Uncle
He wanted to be on a third place team, just not one that’s cursed with every pitcher blowing their arms out?
hiflew
So he chose the team cursed with the one year wonders like Ricky Romero or Alek Manoah.
Chipsss
cause they’re likely to be a 4th place team?
of course so will Toronto most years
DarkSide830
Or the Rox!
Murphy NFLD
Up until he went to Dunedin i did think they had a chance, i thought my jays were the favorite then but he would go to Dodgers. I bet its 580 over 12 years. Now the jays have to go all out to win in the next 2 years
Bobcastelliniscat
Baseball is so screwed up. Good for the Blue Jays but that contract is not going to age well.
redsorbust
You might be right but there will probably be some sort of opt out clause after two years in case his pitching arm comes back online.
Unclemike1526
Well this is not somebody from Ohtani’s camp. This could just be another speculator. But if it is true then the Cubs can get on with it and sign Bellinger and Hoskins.
Catuli Carl
You’re fkin kidding me
desertdawg
Well Toronto just one upped the Yankees, Yankees get Soto for one year, Blue Jays make a bigger splash sign Othani..
Who got the bigger bang for the buck???
darkmanx
Jays because they actually have the player extended.
gardyparty
This sucks for the Yankees, they might have to sign Yamamoto just to stay relevant. Darn it.
JRamHOF
Jason Heyward, get ready to DH 162 games
UncommonSense
He was signed as a platoon guy, and has great defense. Your comment makes no sense.
JRamHOF
Jason Heyward, get ready to DH 162 games
UncommonSense
Polly want cracker?
Ranger Danger19
Glad that’s over with.
kipwells
Damnit I was at the casino last night and almost jumped at wager of “anyone but Dodgers” paying 300-1 but I passed
TheGreatBaseballMind
300 to 1 anyone but the Dodgers and you didn’t place a dollar bet at minimum on that? Yeah. OK.
AndyWarpath
Vote for your favorite regurgitated comment below!
A) He might not ever pitch again!
B) He’s always hurt!
C) He should have signed for 2 years and re entered the market!
D) No one should get paid this much. I make less at my super important job!
E) This contract will somehow make hot dogs more expensive at baseball games.
F) Good! My team didn’t want him anyway!
G) (something racist)
Ezpkns34
H) $60M/yr DH
rwboss
citing a dodgers fan page writer as the source seems discreditable. we will see shortly.
fred-3
JP was a Dodger beat writer for years. He has sources.
gardyparty
Ah, appreciate that info.
VonPurpleHayes
I love this. Blue Jays are super relevant.
acoss13
Well that’s a bummer. Oh well, time to pivot to Plan B for my Cubs…
Mustard Tiger
Ohtani wanted to go somewhere where he’ll never be heard from again and still make a ton of money. Man needs his privacy.
Central Valley
Giants fans are drinking the hard stuff this weekend..
Monkey’s Uncle
Very happy for Toronto. I don’t know if this puts them in the drivers seat for a World Series or not, but they’re trying.
Troy Percival's iPad
There wasn’t an option to pick Baseball United in the contest. I had him signing with the Dubai Dragons for $1.2 billion in real life. I guessed right on Nola and it went south in a hurry. Oh, well. Maybe next year
shortstop
Do we have another Arson Judge situation?
Butter Biscuits
Fire Andrew Friedman what a colossal failure
trueblue4life42
How do you fire Friedman? Ohtani is the one with the decision here. Friedman could have given him the stadium and called to Ohtani Stadium, and it still would have been his decision to sign with whichever team he wanted to sign with, Everyone is so quick to ask for someone to be fired. These people are humans doing a jobs just like everyone else.
Mustard Tiger
$600 million in Canadian dollars. Which is something like $100 million American.
User 2079935927
More like a buck fiddy
Monkey’s Uncle
“Then I said, ‘wait a minute, that ain’t no Girl Scout, you the Loch Ness Monster!”
trueblue4life42
If he got the $600M this would translate to …
600,000,000.00 US Dollars = 815,150,288.76 Canadian Dollars
The federal income tax brackets in Canada and the US are similar. In 2023, the top federal income tax rate in Canada is 33%, while the top federal income tax rate in the US is 37%.
So, he will be saving a few millions vs signing in the US.
Jobba 2
It’s worth noting as a Jays fan I’ve had to listen to a narrative about how awful this front office is , and yes it’s ownership money but the money does not get approved unless there is alot of faith in the people running it . That goes for the Florida complex as well . I question if he will ever pitch again and what the contract will look like then but for the Jays to land this level of star is something 2 weeks ago I would say is not possible . Good time to be a Jays fan ( if true )
Champ world champion Texas Rangers
OK cool now y’all can trade Vlad to Texas.
gojira15
Whoa, bro. Tim Hortons gonna make a fortune selling O-tani donuts.
Not totally shocked if this happens, but I sure didn’t pick them.
CrookedAsstros
You hate to see it
Yazmyhero
Yamamoto will now go the most the Dodgers
Anthony maresca
Ill bet my life Yamamoto going to either Yankees or Zmets and Yankees imo win out and wont even be top 2 highest bidders!
Deleted Userr
Bye Roberts.
Liberalsteve
This makes the lineup average.
Bobcastelliniscat
Toronto has a very large Asian community. I’m sure that was a big part of his decision. The Blue Jays might as well sign Yamamoto too because they are in Win Now mode. Like Soto with the Padres, Othani didn’t make a difference for the Angels.
CardsFan57
Asian or Japanese? The distinction is very important.
LetTheGoodTimesROFL
There’s something satisfying when people are so arrogantly certain and end up wrong.
dodgerfan
This is exactly why I don’t bet, I would have put all my money on the Giants signing him. Now let the floodgate open!
Luke Strong