As the A’s final season on their lease at the Oakland Coliseum kicks into gear, it remains unclear where the club will make its home from 2025 to 2027 while waiting for the club’s planned stadium in Las Vegas to be completed. A spokesperson for the A’s recently told Sam Blum of The Athletic that the club is willing to share the Coliseum with a pair of local soccer teams during the 2025 season and that negotiations regarding the Athletics’ short-term future in Oakland are ongoing.
The sides recently had their first meeting regarding extending the club’s stay in Oakland since the A’s announced their plan to relocate to Las Vegas last year. The club has a significant financial incentive to remain in the Bay Area for the 2025-27 campaigns, as staying in their current market would allow them to maintain their current TV deal, which Blum notes the A’s stand to receive $67MM annually from. A move to Salt Lake City or Sacramento, the other reported finalists for the A’s temporary home, would give NBC Sports California the ability to drop the deal.
That reality has brought the A’s back to the negotiating table with Oakland and, if the club’s reported willingness to share the stadium is any indication, accept at least some concessions in order to remain in Oakland for three more seasons. While the club has begun to attempt to negotiate a longer stay at their current stadium, it remains unclear how willing the city of Oakland is to compromise. Oakland mayor Sheng Thao has previously indicated that the A’s would not be welcome to remain in the Coliseum temporarily without significant concessions, up to and including the promise of an expansion franchise bringing baseball back to Oakland in the future. Thao’s camp seemingly remained committed to that stance as talks began last week, leaving the A’s odds of securing a temporary lease in Coliseum murky.
More from around the A’s and the city of Oakland…
- MLB Players Association executive director Tony Clark recently spoke to reporters, including John Shea of the San Francisco Chronicle, regarding the club’s uncertain future. In his comments, Clark noted that “players had questions” about the future location of the A’s, while adding that “you would like to see come to some higher level of clarity” given the relatively short amount of time until a decision needs to be made. While the club’s lease in Oakland won’t expire until after the 2024 season comes to a close, the ambiguity over the A’s home in 2025 could complicate the creation of next year’s schedule, which Shea notes is meant to be available to teams in May. Once the A’s choose a location for the 2025-27 seasons, the location will require MLBPA approval. For his part, Clark indicated that there “may be things we need to address” regarding the A’s choice for an interim home regardless of whether the A’s remain in Coliseum or move to a minor league facility in Salt Lake City or Sacramento.
- A’s infield prospect Darell Hernaiz figures to be on the big league radar at some point this season after he impressed with a .338/.393/.486 slash line in 71 games at the Double-A level last year before he went on to hold his own with a .300/.376/.418 triple slash in 60 games at the Triple-A level. Hernaiz has played shortstop almost exclusively throughout his professional career, making only brief cameos at second and third base. With the club likely to rely on Nick Allen at shortstop to open the season, however, Martin Gallegos of MLB.com relays that, per manager Mark Kotsay, Hernaiz will get regular reps at third base this spring. The hot corner could provide Hernaiz with a quicker path to the big leagues this season as the A’s are currently without a clear starting option at the position, with Abraham Toro standing as Hernaiz’s primary competition for the third base job to open the season barring any external additions.
A’s fans: Is the Coliseum in good enough shape for the A’s to play there the next three years without significant improvements?
“Is the Coliseum in good enough”….The “fans” don’t maintain the Coliseum the City of Oakland does.
The A’s also own half, so they have some responsibility in bringing it up to code. They’ve obviously ignored that responsibility in recent years.
The lease agreement actual (from what j recall) requires the licensor (the Coliseum Authority) to contribute $1M annually for capital improvements, with an additional 5% increase every year of the term. While the owner of the A’s purchased the county’s half of the coliseum complex, major improvements aren’t his legal responsibility.
No matter how bad the Coliseum is, it’s still in Oakland. Oakland is so bad right now, even In N Out had to close its doors and move out.
“even an In N Out”…Hamburgers aren’t the only thing leaving Oakland. “Starbucks” pulled out weeks ago.
Stores close all the time for all sorts of reasons, although the most common by far is that they are not profitable. What this has to do with anything I dont know, but Im sure you voted for Trump…
You don’t know why they closed it? Is your head in the sand? They closed it because they couldn’t keep their employees safe. CRIME! In N Out is a cash cow.
And I don’t vote for Trump, I vote against democrats.
COMPLETE BS. RETAIL BUSINESSES AND RESTAURANTS CLOSE ALL THE TIME IN CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY,
They said why they close it. You obviously know nothing about In N Out out burger.
It’s actually, technically speaking, not in Oakland lol
I always appreciate facts.
According to CNN, it’s the first In and Out to ever close and it’s in Oakland. And it closed because of crime perpetrated against their customers and employees. M
The Contra Costa (near Oakland) location temporarily closed in protest of being forced to check vaccination records of customers.
Yeah I almost forgot to blame Selig too. And Manfred while we are at it.
You better make the first shot count because Conservatives know how to shoot. 🙂
“Stores close all the time…voted for Trump”…Aren’t you the same Hollywood celebrity worldview “people” that believe the way to reduce crime is to “Defund” the Police?
Fast food is a major indicator of economic health and is usually the last thing to go in a localized economy. If Starbucks and in n out close…pull out. That’s a sign there’s little to service as far as workers, etc. And it doesn’t bode well for attracting outsiders to a stadium in the area. Regardless if there are facts…perception is everything. The White Sox face this as well in Chicago.
Not making profit…not being able to staff…those aren’t indicators of economic viability. And don’t help a team that’s more of a regional team than purely Oakland.
And I despise Fisher and thus move
They do. But SF proper, especially has had a boost from tourist economy more than others. That’s not even holding the tide. It’s an expensive region to operate.
Libertarians shoot better.
A lot of libertarians join the armed forces? My family, everyone shoots… well everyone except me. Maybe because I’m a moderate.
But the left has gone so crazy, I’m beginning to think it’s time I learned.
Lol couldn’t keep their employees safe? Would live to hear some instances of them not being safe.
There were plenty. Do you guys not know how to google. You even use CNN as a source.
You people kill me. You have to actually try to have your head in the sand.
Fast Food Restaurants is a VERY SATURTED MARKET.
US Cities cannot support all the old and new fast food restaurants opening every other year.
Thousands of fast food restaurants close every year in every City and State.
People are eating healthier.
The Restaurant business is extremely competitive.
I have tried their stuff.
It is OK, but nothing special.
There are much higher quality, better tasting burgers out there if that is your food of choice.
Your statement and slander of Oakland and SF Bay Are just proves your negative biases and nothing else.
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Only In & Out to ever close. You guys can be the monkeys that hear no evil and see no evil, but facts are still facts.
Do you actually believe CNN reported this with a conservative spin? Oh brother.
Just in case you don’t know how to google.
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The In-N-Out slated for closure is in a busy business corridor that attracts travelers headed to the airport and baseball fans who attend A’s games at the Coliseum. Since 2019, police have logged 1,335 incidents in the vicinity of the restaurant on Oakport Street — more than any other location in Oakland,
Who cares?! Do you have stock in “Inn & Out?!
Well over 2,000 fast foot joints closed last year in red states, blue states cities and towns all over the USA.
The fast food industry is over saturated.
People are eating healthier now.
If you want to eat “a heart attack special”
then there are still plenty of choices.
As I have stated and posted: thousands of fast food joints close locations in every city and state in the country every year.
Another restaurant will take its place.
That Inn & Out is not even in Oakland.
It is in another City.
The stadium is fine; they don’t draw anyone. Major issue is everything around the stadium horrible area. Why the golden state warriors and raiders moved the area not the stadium
Stadium is 100% NOT fine. I’ve been to 15+ games last 3 years.
Raiders moved because Fisher renewed the A’s lease and did not allow the Raiders to build on the Coliseum grounds. Marc Davis has brutal in his take on Fisher and blames him for the Raiders having to move.
And everyone else blames Al Davis.
As much blame can be left on the city. They had the chance to move Uptown 25 years ago. Jerry Brown put condos there instead. This did nothing to improve infrastructure but it sure lined Browns pockets enough for him to subsequently buy another term as Governor.
Meanwhile, conflicts with City Manager Robert Bobb on the issue presaged Bobbs’ move to the same position in Washington DC where, guess what, he was a major player in getting Nationals Park built.
Can’t blame Davis he was the poorest owner of a NFL team and if somebody says here is $2 billion stadium for free move here why wouldn’t you?. The only part annoying is those who claim Oakland drove the Raiders away when the raiders never said they wanted a stadium in Oakland. They planned the move 3 years before their lease was up. At least davis was honest with their fans and not pretend they wanted to stay. and blame the city.
I don’t blame Al Davis for moving to Vegas. I even stayed a Raider fan all the time they were in LA. He is the one who leveraged the move back to Oakland but as a result had that freaking monstrosity of a football grandstand that ruined all the ambience of a park that had been modified strictly for baseball. Yeah the area around the Coli sucks but I knew a few good people who lived around there. Went to some banging parties back in the day.
i am just tired of people blaming Oakland for the Raiders moving when Raiders never wanted to negotiate for a stadium. So much false information in many of these post on what happened with teams moving out.
Raiders were offered a “shared stadium deal”
in Santa Clara with the 49ers.
(like the Rams and Chargers @ SOFI stadium).
Mark Davis’s greed caused the Raiders to move
NOT OAKLAND, NOT SF BAY AREA.
Yes. I went there three times last season. It probably couldn’t handle 40k a night or anything, but from a facilities point of view it’s kind of getting “rest days” on weekdays since the “crowds” are like 3k.
Can’t handle 40k? That’s total bull. Your city does not care enough to save the A’s and kee them in Oakland. Zero desire from the fanbase. Undeserving of a baseball franchise in that city.
Are you employed by MLB to run down Oakland
and support the A’s move to LV?!
It certainly reads like it!
I believe it is but after all of this nonsense I think it’s better left in the rear view. It was never a great arena for a modern small market team. Stick up a 25,000 stadium and make it a boiling cauldron is my advice
I think what they need is a 34-35k seat stadium in downtown that isn’t some kind of mega real estate deal. Laney College was a great site, but unfortunately Fisher and Co couldn’t communicate well enough and announced their plans for the site without bothering to ask if the college was OK with it. Which they weren’t.
The idea that they NEED a waterfront ballpark to compete with SF is wrong. They just need an accessible ballpark with a nice view, local restaurants and bars and bike access.
What they need is to leave Oakland. What isn’t being communicated to you, letsgooakland, is Oakland deserves a total of zero MLB teams.
Want to prove your city should have a team? Join the PCL and support a AAA team. Then hope for an expansion team.
Warriors Owner Joe Lacob has a 10 year standing offer to buy the A’s and build a New private stadium in SF Bay Area.
Reggie Jackson was the “high bidder” for the A’s.
Bud Selig “double crossed” Jackson and his financial partners (Bill Gates, Paul Allen, John McCaw).
Bud Selig forced sale of the A’s to his college fraternity brothers Lew Wolf and John Fischer.
That is how the A’s situation became so screwed up.
Yes. The Coliseum itself isn’t good, but it’s the location which truly makes it non-viable for a site rebuild, etc. The stadium is in rough shape, but the actual experience at the game, so long as the crowds don’t get too big, shouldn’t be terrible.
I’m not a fan, but there have been multiple sewage issues as well as issues with animal control that have occurred in the stadium in the past
the sewage problem was from playing games after the Raider games. Since the stadium is built below sea level it could not take that much sewage at one time. They have not had problem since that time since there is no 50,000 + people attending the games anymore
The stadium is the same as it was 30 years ago and I’m sure it will be the same 3 years from now. The A’s won’t care if the stadium is run down from a fan perspective. As long as the field is in good shape (which it always is now that football is gone) the A’s owners won’t care about the rest.
Wrigley Field and Fenway apart are really old stadiums also.
Work with City Officials and clean up the Colisem
and it is actually a very nice venue for baseball.
It would be better if they removed the Al Davis football seats/
The weather is warmer and much nicer for baseball than it
ever was in “Windlestick Park”.
The Weather is still nicer @ the Oakland location than it is
@ the downtown SF location.
It can get cold, foggy, windy in downtown SF.
Sacramento A’s baseball!
They don’t want to lose that lucrative TV deal.
Agreed. But there may be little that they can do about it. It is not like they will lose the whole deal, they can get a new TV deal for a fair amount less – maybe in Sacramento, Bay Area and Las Vegas.
I would guess NBC Sports would love to get out of that contract with the A’s and would welcome the chance to renegotiate or void the deal altogether. The whole situation with the Diamond Sport Group is likely to change the television broadcast model for MLB, reflecting a changing world for sports television.
NBC Sports California is not only available in Sacramento, that RSN airs the Sacramento Kings of the NBA. Dropping the A’s just cos they’re playing in Sactown sounds illogical.
The NBC Sports/A’s contract specially states
it covers A’s home broadcast originating in the SF Bay Area.
Sacramento IS NOT IN THE SF BAY AREA.
Contract doesn’t include Sacramento, only the Bay Area, which is why it would have to be renegotiated. Does NBC Sports CA find value in paying $67M for broadcast rights for a 100 loss team that is moving to Las Vegas? Given the issues with the networks, I bet they see value – just not at $67M.
It would probably be more logical of we knew what key sponsors would back out.
What I never understood is the athletics shared the stadium at least twice with the raiders. The Raiders have this nice stadium in Las Vegas that is pubic funded. Only used 8-10 football games a year.
Why won’t you just make a deal with that stadium and play there for 3-4 seasons. Sure it would be a lot cheaper and down quickly to have it where it could handle baseball.
Benefits; the athletics could developed a Las Vegas following; could see increase sales compared to Oakland and all the issues be over.
The way it sits the athletics is it is like a divorce. Almost like a husband telling his wife I am leaving you for another women in 2-3 years but do you mind still being my wife until my new wife is ready for me. Not a fun topic.
Because the owner of the raiders hates the owner of the A’s. They never got along in Oakland.
Al Davis ruined the coliseum by putting up those extra football seats and blocking views and baseball ambience.
Mark Davis and Raiders were blocked from doing commercial development around the Coliseum by John Fisher
that would have kept the Raiders in Oakland.
Analogy is spot on. Super awkward situation the A’s now find themselves in for the next few years
John Fisher and the A’s have no forward looking view. They think of this moment in time and not the repercussions of their actions. They announced their move with no plan on where they would be playing for the three years after their lease expires. I think that they announced Vegas the SAME week that they were supposed to be entering final negotiations with Oakland to try and get additional leverage with the city, but the mayor didn’t play Fisher’s game and it has been a comedy of errors since then.
Fisher is the worst.
Allegiant Stadium is also the home of the UNLV Runnin’ Rebels and can easily accommodate any supersize spectacle — March Madness, Monster Jam, WrestleMania,
The Raiders owner is on record angry about the A’s move…he’s not helping. He doesn’t like John Fisher.
Who does? Maybe Mrs. Fisher.
I read that the dimensions @ the Football stadium in LV
are not conducive to MLB baseball.
One of the OF fences say in RF would have to be only 200 and less than 300 feet from home plate.
Still coming up with poor ideas I see.
At least a dozen better options than Sacramento, closer to 20.
Now that all the national sports teams have fled maybe now Oakland and it’s civic leaders can focus on it’s numerous problems with crime, homelessness and job creating businesses leaving town at an increased pace.
Grr Oakland grrr. If every city was forced to focus on its other problems before they could have a baseball team, MLB would have to move all the teams to the Field of Dreams.
The solution would be for fans to attend and support the team.
Oh that’s right, they don’t.
They have been driven off on this case
SF Bay Area fans attended and supported the teams when the A’s had a great, competent, Owner who cared about the team and the fans and spent money putting a competitive, exciting team on the field that was playoffs competitive.
When Walter Haas Jr Owned the A’s
the A’s were drawing over 50,000 fans per game in pennant races (the largest amount of any team in that season for a regular season game).
The A’s had 50,000+ home field fans for games against the SF Giants when both teams were competitive and in pennant races.
And, the A’s drew well over 50,0o0 fans for an A’s home playoff game @ the Coliseum in Oakland that broke an MLB attendance record for a playoffs game attendance.
Fans will not be loyal to INCOMPETENT OWNERS LIKE FISHER WHO FIRE SALE ALL THEIR YOUNG ALL STAR PLAYERS EVERY 3-4 YEARS AND INTENTIONALLY LIE TO , TAKE MONEY FROM AND SABOTAGE THEIR TEAM WITH THE NEFARIOUS INTENT TO SLINK OUT OF TOWN LIKE A SNAKE OR A COCKROACH IN THE NIGHT.
So either you are a paid troll for the MLB Commissioner Manfred, or for the SF Giants trying to establish a baseball monopoly in the SF Bay Area
Or for the worst owner in MLB sports
(Fisher.. worse than Frank McCourt_
OR YOU ARE NOT SMART ENOUGH TO ANALYZE MANY OBVIOUS FACTS AND HAVE NO CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS,.
@mlb fan,
Yeah, Oakland was too preoccupied with major league sports teams to take care of its essential issues, but now it can because its slate has been cleared. Brilliant!
I question what Oakland thinks they are accomplishing here. You’d think the best course of action would be amicable seeing as the A’s are gonna leave either way now. By feuding with a leaving team you’re just making it harder for a potential expansion team to come to Oakland. I mean, it would be one of the most logical spots to expand to when the A’s leave. Why burn that bridge before you even need to cross it?
Aren’t they dealing with politicians? Other than actors and athletes, politicians are the dumbest well paid people in America.
“Aren’t they dealing with politicians”…Oakland is run by loony, lefty ideologues who believe that demonizing the police, billionaires and the job creators is the way to go. It’s no surprise that businesses are fleeing the Bay Area at an alarming rate and being quickly replaced by homeless encampments.
Amen mlb fan.
The bay area itself is a cesspool when it comes to politics, but it’s a really great place to live for the most part. Oakland’s politicians take it to the next level and make sure the city isn’t even a nice place to live.
The A’s are leaving. It’s done. Make the best of it by dramatically increasing the lease costs in a way that essentially shares the TV revenue. That’s a realistic concession.
Agreed. The city should asked for no less than $20M a year for the next three years, which is up significantly from the $1.25M (I think) they current receive. City then agrees to host the Oakland Roots and Soul games, generating even more revenue for the city.
BULLSHEET!
MLB is still practicing the billionaire boys club stadium extortion racket what ever they can get away with by trying to hold taxpayers hostage to their demands and playing cities off against each other.
Meanwwhile, another privately financed stadium with the Owner’s own cash and credit is getting ready to open in Inglewood, CA for the Clippers and the Olympics in 2026. Billionaire Owner Steve Balmer(Microsoft) is using his own cash and credit to built the 2B New Home of the Clippers Intuit Arena. Inglewood is a working class area just like Oakland.
No other team is coming to Oakland: even where they wanted to move in Oakland at one time are just horrible areas that are not family friendly for coming to the games.
Working class and retired people are fleeing California at huge rates. California is a nightmare.
Expansion teams most likely be in Salt Lake City and Nashville.
And the CA, and especially Bay Area, bashing continues.
Gbs42; do you live in the Bay Area or California? Ever been to an Oakland athletics game??
I live outside Fresno California and usually go to opening day in Oakland as it is the cheapest and usually 1-2 more games a year.
If you had driven around the stadium; Oakland and the area you would know what I mean about the city the area. Dennys and In n Out burger have just pulled out of Oakland.
Until you have lived in California; been around Oakland and other areas most of you watching the news will never understand how bad it is
@Benjamin101677,
I live in the Bay Area, have been going to A’s games for years, and you are fill of shut.
There is a certain breed of “aLpHa MaLe” who loves to brag about how they are utterly scared ****less of urban areas and how they pee their pants any time they have to go anywhere near these places with all of THOSE scary people.
You’re a liar then straight up if you feel safe around the stadium and it is not crime ridden; and homeless camps everywhere.
Fresno is much worse than Oakland for crime.
So you are saying the homeless scare you?
St. Louis has a very high murder rate yet 3M fans attend games every year.
What I think Benjy is saying is that the St. Louis murderers are more courteous and polite; i.e., less threatening.
SLC is a terrible spot for a team. Small market and higher elevation than Denver. Nashville yes, and either Charlotte, Portland, or Montreal.
Not Portland or Montreal.
Assess the AAA attendance records the last 5 years. Indianapolis and Columbus more deserving of MLB than the latter two teams you mentioned. San Antonio also.
Denver is 1000 feet higher elevation than SLC, and SLC is one of the fastest growing metro areas in the USA
SLC is 4400 ft and Denver is a mile high.
its_hap,
I wonder if existing loyalties would hinder a team in Indianapolis or Columbus. Minor League games are more about fun factors and results. Indy has the Cubs, White Sox, Cardinals, Reds, and Tigers all relatively close, so most baseball fans already have an MLB team to cheer for. Columbus has Cincinnati, Cleveland, and Detroit. And the only really big market among those cities is Chicago, which has two teams.
The closeness is exactly WHY you put a team in Indy. They have a loyal fanbase who attend games on the regular. Same with Columbus. Some of the teams you mentioned draw little to games. Guess what? More road trips, more fans attending games and more people watching.
You don’t deprive a city of a team if they can sustain support. Close in proximity? Horrible excuse not to have a franchise.
Tampa Bay is full of Yankees fan retirees, which is part of the reason the Rays have a limited fan base. A team in Indy or Columbus would either develop a small fan base or pull away from the smaller fan bases surrounding them. I don’t think either would create very many more Major League Baseball fans.
Horrible comparison.
Tampa Rays are not in Tampa. They are in the middle of nowhere in St Pete’s.
And what you fail to understand is the teams like Cleveland and the White Sox looking for a crowd, places like Indy and Columbus take the roadie to those places. Toronto has a charter tour to Cleveland and it would be a benefit if they put Cleveland and Detroit in the AL East.
To choose a city that doesn’t care about baseball is foolish, and it seems you’re in that camp.
Thank you for the incredibly condescending tone, as if I haven’t been a baseball fan for decades.
I am fully aware it’s not a direct comparison and of the location problems for the Rays.
I stand by my point that a team in Indianapolis or Columbus would struggle to be anything more than a small to mid market franchise because of the surrounding competition.
The Tampa Bay area has a number of minor league teams and leads the nation in professional baseball attendance per capita. There are baseball fans there in abundance.
The problem is that the Rays are not in Tampa. Even the owner of the Rays has said the best place for the team would be in the Ybor city area of Tampa.
As has been said over and over and over by people that attend games there, the stadium is in a horrible place to get to for most of the population of the region. Its an hour plus drive for 75% of the population of Tampa Bay. If there is a wreck on any of the bridges you have to cross, that time can easily double.
So people have to leave work at 5pm, fight traffic to get home, then spend an hour more in traffic and hope to get to the ballpark by 7pm.
Then when they get there its not in a great area with little to do before or after a game and the stadium is terrible.
These are things I know from experience. I still own a home there near my daughter and will attend a handful of Rays games again this year like I do every year.
Well GBs, I think you are a good poster, but I worked in downtown LA, 9th and Hill, I use to walk to lunch everyday and never had an issue.
A year ago, I drove by where I use to work and it l looked like a third world nation.
The fact is businesses are moving out for a reason and that reason is crime.
A couple years ago I flew to Minnesota and KC to see games, even “technically” Oakland is my local team, I wouldn’t get in a car and see a game in Oakland.
Salt Lake City is not a viable location. Three words; beer and alcohol sales. No profit margin for ownership.
Have you been to a sporting event in Salt Lake? You can buy a beer at all of them.
BIL, people generally don’t like facts interfering with their opinions.
Very true gbs.
Oakland will NOT get an expansion franchise and no current team would want to relocate there. The mayor can forget most of her demands for a lease extension for the A’s. No way does she get a guarantee of an expansion team, no way do the A’s give up the name Athletics or the team colors. The city should though charge a large fee for a lease extension. Squeeze every penny possible out of Fisher
That’s like saying baseball should expand into Montreal when it does in Oakland. Right now SLC and Portland are above Oakland for the West coast expansion, Nashville probably gets the other.
Seeing how Fisher has treated the city, there is no reason for them to be amicable. Fisher backing out of Howard Terminal site after the city spent millions on planning, the environmental impact study, and defending against multiple lawsuits hasn’t exactly endeared him to city officials.
If they renew the lease as is, the Coliseum Authority loses money. So no reason to do that.
Fisher has refused to allow other sports to share the coliseum which cost the city money.
The city has many reasons to distrust and dislike Fisher and doesn’t benefit from making things easy for him and the A’s.
Manfred has not exactly been helpful in this whole situation, so the city is not likely to make it easy on MLB without some give from Manfred and the other owners.
The city is looking for major concessions from both Fisher and MLB. Fisher has $200 million reasons to sell the land to AASEG and MLB has reason to guarantee the Bay Area a franchise because they will get up to $2 billion in franchise fees, a waterfront ballpark at Howard Terminal, and possibly the continuation of a $67 million annual TV deal.
If they renew the lease as is, the Coliseum Authority would lose money.
The A’s aren’t asking to renew the lease. They are asking to do a new lease. Even Fisher, with $70MM on the line, knows he won’t be getting the same deal. The city can ask for a lot more, because if Fisher walks away, he’s poorer. At the same time, they have to be reasonable, because if Fisher walks away, the city is poorer. That stadium has costs whether teams play in it or not.
Or you know, Oakland’s leadership and representatives could try to focus on things which benefit the city more than trying to exact revenge on Fisher. It’s only millions of dollars of taxpayer money at stake.
It’s wild the city of Oakland doesn’t seem to recognize Fisher will get a new TV deal… Better yet, make the TV deal for Las Vegas and rename the team the Las Vegas Athletics or whatever just to increase fan interest in the team which is coming to town. Totally realistic.
The city of Oakland’s bargaining position is quite dubious.
Fisher will get a new TV deal in Vegas and potentially at an interim city from 25-27, but he’s not going to get anywhere near the $67M annualy he’s getting from his current contract with the general downturn in MLB RSN evaluations and the fact that every metro area mentioned is a fraction of the media market of Oakland.
It behooves Oakland to play hard ball. Currently, Oakland is getting just $1.25M annually from the A’s lease. At that rate, the next 3 years would be worth a little less than $4M plus tax revenue generated (I have no idea what that looks like, but I’m guessing it’s not considerable) whereas the broadcast value to stay in Oakland for the A’s is $200M over the same period.
And if the A’s a) haven’t previously negotiated in good faith with the city and b) intend to leave in short order regardless of how nice the city’s lease terms are, why shouldn’t Oakland ask for the moon?
Good post. Why shouldn’t the A’s give Oakland extra money to stay since they were the ones that broke the verbal agreement. Knowing Fisher he wants it to based on attendance knowing the average attendance will be less than 5000 a game since he alienated the fans. Oakland should require a certain amount of employees hired no matter what the attendance is.
@straightuphonestguy knows what’s up. MLB RSNs have been a huge issue, which has impacted revenue across most all teams thus off-season. The Mariners, Padres, Rangers, Twins and Guardians are only a small list of teams that have been dealing with the uncertainty of broadcast revenue.
@straightuphonestguy – That’s the only leverage they’ve got. The difference between the current deal and the lesser projected new TV deal.
The A’s negotiated in good faith for over 20 years.
Considering the stark differences in asks from the team for an additional mixed-use development at the 55-acre Howard Lincoln site vs. the bare-bones 9-acre Tropicana Hotel site, I respectfully disagree.
I would think their biggest motivator is losing the TV contract if they move out of the market. Who’s gonna give them any kind of contract then? Best course of action is staying in Oakland.
Bud Selig, Manfred and Fischer burned the bridges.
Oakland, is wisely, protecting their economic interests.
Selig, Manfred, Fisher and the SF Giants
PURPOSELY SABOTAGED THE A’S ECONOMIC SUCCESS IN OAKLAND AND THE SF BAY AREA.
MLB should force Oakland to have a minority owner. All 30 owners have something in common
“All 30 owners have something in common”..Symbolism and tokenism is not real change, Liberal Steve. Why do leftists believe literally everything in the world is about skin color?…You yourself have a lot “in common” with a certain group of “socialist” people that occupied Germany in the early part of the 20th century.
The christian conservative right and their unhinged, orange leader are the reincarnation of that “certain group of “socialist” people” you are talking about. Learn your history.
Germany became far right wing, ultra nationalist, Christian fascist State that lead to World War II and 100M dead.
That’s exactly what could happen here in the U.S. thanks to history illiterate people like the 30-40% of weak minded trump groupies. People only need to read The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich to see just how similar the tactics are between the two.
Are you insinuating that having a minority owner would be appropriate punishment for the A’s? This is an odd statement.
Most minority owners would be liberal: liberal politics are what has caused the collapse of California as liberals have been in charge for many decades. So a minority owner would do nothing to help the city or the team or the state.
You as a team / owner are not going draw fans and families into areas that are not seen as safe. Oakland area has an exploding crime rate; homeless camps around the city that just makes it unsafe to be in. Not going sell tickets.
what made red states collapse
Last time I checked; California and New York are seeing massive exits of the working class; retired and jobs to states such as Florida and Texas. California exit is so bad that they lost Congress seats. First time ever.
Both California and New York had billions in budget deficits. That is covered by all news sources. To date I have never seen Florida or Texas had news coverage about budget deficits.
We can argue all night but the fact is that blue states California and New York that are 85-90% democrat ram are seeing rough times. With no noted plans for pulling the states and cities out of trouble.
Yet states like Florida; Oklahoma and Texas are growing like crazy with people.
I recommend everyone get off the mainstream new channels; cbs; cnn and fox and look at the other podcast and smaller news channels like newsmax and you will see there are 2 Americas. What the media says is happening and what is really happening.
I live in California and be around Oakland and the stadium for years. I can speak first hand what I have seen.
Red states collapse when blue people move in.
Newsmax! Thanks, Benjy.
CA and NY are net payers to the federal govt. CA on it’s own recently went from the 5th largest economy on Earth to the 4th.
Most red states, EVEN TEXAS the red state gem, are net takers from the federal government. The moocher states.
Maybe don’t intentionally become a mushroom managed minion. There are 2 Americas when one of them is reality TV, yeah. The point of that show is to make one a pawn. It’s working perfectly.
CA recently went from the #5 economy in the world to #4 even with all these whiners whining about how they have to move.
Actually, maybe that’s why. It’s like pruning a tree.
Send the dead weight to Texas and CA just keeps getting stronger.
Yet states like Florida, Oklahoma, and Texas are growing with crazy people.
Fixed it for you.
Newsmax lol my guy
Yeah, people flocking to Florida and Texas cos they like banning books or demonizing foreigners. Florida and Texas are becoming havens for filthy rich billionaires who don’t want to pay taxes.
That’s why California lost Congress seats and more companies that you could guess
Well I hope for your sake Cult Leader Trumpa Loompa gets re-elected.
Georgia is growing like crazy as well. My parents live there and every time I visit it seems the population has doubled
CORRECTION: CALIFORNIA HAS PASSED GERMANY AS THE 4TH LARGEST AND RICHEST ECONOMY IN THE ENTIRE WORLD WHEN COMPARED TO COUNTRIES.
CA lost only 1 seat. And, that was because of Covid.
CA is almost 40M people and still growing.
Ronald Regan and The Governonator both say hi.
Your point, Kappel? Because Reagan was Governor of California about a thousand years ago.
Mister we could use a man like Schwarzenegger again…
The collapse of California has been climate change. Economically, its not collapsing. Mud slides, fires, earthquakes and floods, and now, even hurricanes, are not the fault of either political party.
Regardless of race, rich people tend to be conservative because its all about the money.
Um ok stymeedone run with that narrative. California is in the hands of that spoiled rich kid that is still running daddy’s multibillion dollar company, only instead of being worth $50-billion it’s worth about $19-billion.
It’s like where Disney is today. They’re doing fine but certainly not like it was, thanks to poor decision makers making decisions. That is California today. Not about climate SMH…
California is collapsing they have lost many companies all the working class are moving.
California refused to log or clear forest so they had massive burns
Climate change if real read the research is 2 degrees warmer in a century. That is it
All this climate change talk yet the rich and the president and governor have not given up their gas vehicle fleet or private jets.
You watch way too much far right news. California is not collapsing. Companies are not moving. The only companies moved is because they refuse to pay taxes moving to a state where the middle class pays the taxes not companies. 80% of the forest land is owned by the Feds who got their budget cuts to give rich elites tax cuts. So please stop listening to opinionated news talking heads.so you can know the truth.
FALSE
Many of the most successful entrepreneurs, millionaires and billionaires are progressives and liberals.
Silicon Valley was built by progressives, radicals and outside the box thinkers “sticking it to the man”.
Innovation comes from open minds that think
“outside the box” and
not from closed minded dogmatists.
Put down the vodka bottle and the bong.
California is booming.
Every place you live or travel to has problems.
There is no perfect place in the World.
The problems you see in California I have seen every where with homeless, crime and all these other issues in cities and States all across the country and the world.
Extreme capitalism in its pure form causes wide disparities in incomes.
Supply and demand factors cause big disparities in pricing
in housing and other services.
Since so many successful people want to live in California then that causes the market prices to go higher for essentials especially housing.
It is similar to pricing in Hawaii, Washington State, Oregon.
and other “high demand” cities and states.
Stop playing so many video games and watching
slanted, biased news shows and take a class in economics or read some books on it.
Tell me, what color is the sky on your world? Does it hurt being so full of excrement?
Wow you sound angry full of hate hearing facts. So what is not a fact?
“All 30 owners have something in common”
I sure hope you’re trolling here.
RACISM BY BUD SELIG AND MLB IS A BIG REASON THEY ARE FORCING THE A’s out of Oakland and the SF Bay Area.
Reggie Jackson and his financial backers (Bill Gates, Paul Allen and John McCaw) were blocked from purchasing the A’s and building the A’s
a New Stadium in Oakland and other sites in the SF Bay Areas.
Instead, former Commissioner BACKSTABBLED REGGIE AND STEERED THE SALE OF THE A’S TO HIS WHITE, COLLEGE FRATERNITY BROS LEW WOLFE AND JOHN FISHER?!
youtube.com/watch?v=EVlXbORV3_Q
youtube.com/watch?v=f9hheBjx3Yo
Why is everything racism? In belittles your point.
Everything is not Racism.
Why were Fisher and Wolfe WHITE COLLEGE FRATERNITY BROTHERS of former MLB Commissioner Bud Selig
“fast tracked:” to buy the Oakland A’s when they had not previous interest in the A;s and in fact were Giants fans?!
Why was a bid to buy the A’s by Hall of Fame legend and African American Reggie Jackson with financial partners Bill Gates, Paul Allen and John McCaw REJECTED?!
Why WAS THERE NOT AN OPEN, COMPETTIVE BIDDING PROCESS TO BUY THE A’s and built a stadium in the SF Bay Area?!
Why did Bud Selig LIE TO REGGIE WHEN PROMISING TO GET REGGIE APPROVED AS NEW A’S OWNER IN SF BAY AREA AND THEN BACKSTABBED REGGIE?!
Why is A’s Owner Fisher ( a White guy) SUBSIDIZED BY MLB WITH REVENUE SHARING IN A NON REVENUE SHARING MARKET!?
Why is Fisher subsidized by MLB to move to LV AND WAIVING THE 400M relocation fees?!
Oakland is a Majority Minority City RUN BY WOMEN OF COLOR WHO DON’T FIT INTO THE WHITE SELIG & ; MANFRED COUNTRY CLUB SCENE.
FISHER (White Owner) IS GETTING SPECIAL TREATMENT BY MULTIPLE MLB COMMISSIONERS.
THE BAR TO MLB OWNERSHIP BY AFRICAN AMERICANS WAS SET MUCH HIGHER FOR REGGIE JACKSON THAT IT WAS FOR WHITE JOHN FISHER.
THIS LOOKS LIKE A TEXTBOOK EXAMPLE OF INSTITUTIOALIZED RACISM.
MLB does not want African American Ownership.
MLB, Selig, Manfred and the Giants are forcing the A’s out of the SF Bay Area to take a much lesser deal in LV and to subsidize Bud Selig’s underfunded white Fraternity brother(s) Wolfe and Fischer) in his attempted move to Las Vegas.(Revenue Sharing subsidies in a non revenue sharing market, waiving 400M plus relocation fees, more revenue sharing in LV, help with financing to buy the team and to build stadium in LV).
Reggie Jackson and his Financial Partners( Bill Gates, Paul Allen and John McCaw) were blocked from buying the A’s and building a new stadium in the Oakland and/or The SF Bay Area by Selig, Manfred, MLB and the SF Giants.
marca.com/en/mlb/oakland-athletics/2023/03/24/641d…
Reggie Jackson claims Bud Selig blocked him from buying Oakland A’s
The legendary ‘Mr. October’ accuses the former Major League Baseball commissioner of blocking his attempt to acquire the team.
I reads a lot like MLB engaged in
“INSTITUTIONALIZED RACISM ” in BLOCKING AFRICAN AMERICAN Reggie Jackson from buying and owning the Oakland A’s.
marca.com/en/mlb/oakland-athletics/2023/03/24/641d…
youtube.com/watch?v=EVlXbORV3_Q
At A’s Fans Fest today the mayor said that the A’s can only get an extension if Oakland gets to keep the A’s brand and Oakland is GUARANTEED an expansion team. I’m calling A’s to Sacramento or maybe SLC
Oakland will NEVER get another MLB team, maybe a minor league team, but never again a major league team in any of the four major sports leagues. The A’s also will never give up the franchise name or colors. That mayor is delusional
10k+ at A’s “Fansfest” today, ran by die-hard fan groups and sponsored by local businesses and teams.
Pretty good for a fan-run event. Royals had 11k in 2023, ownership’s spending spree this year got them to 20k.
Imagine if Oakland had the team-sponsored event, with an owner who spent money.
Okay so you are a California guy like me; who wants to go the stadium where the homeless camps are all around the stadium. Businesses are fleeing.
Oakland is the not he place right now for a franchise to survive. When the athletics did there events for season tickets holders and other last year at jack London square the turn out was less than 300-400 fans.
Fans don’t want to support Fisher because he’s gutted the team.
Charge a lot more for rent and use some of that money to help the homeless. Win-win.
There wasn’t an event last year. They haven’t hosted FanFest since 2020.
Dude, there are homeless camps in Walnut Creek. Get over yourself.
There was no fan fest by the As last year. The last one was 2019.
Imagine if the Athletics fans actually showed up to games?!
The Athletics have been to more than 5x the number of playoff berths than the Royals in the 2000s. They’ve outperformed the Royals in win/loss percentage 3x more often. In the last 10 years, Oakland’s fans have outperformed Kansas City at the box office only ONE time.
Imagine a owner that loved the fans that made him rich and is honest to the fans. Not the owner who called sponsors of the A’s fan fest and told them to pull out because he didn’t want them to show support. The same owner who has NEVER brought in a all star free agent and refused to pay a player who reached free agency. A owner that said I am leaving and unwilling to sell to a local owner who will keep the team in the city.
They’re saying now that according to Bloc15, the venue that hosted it, 15-20k people showed up.
That’s nuts. That’s more than Tampa Bay had this season (15k) even though we had to use guerilla marketing tactics.
It’s exhausting coming on here and just reading stupid political comments.
Can we please go back to when nerds and dweebs who just want drone on about politics got shoved in lockers?
John Fisher sucks, he has sucked and will suck. Couldn’t build a ballpark in the Bay Area when 3 other teams managed to get it done.
“Can we please go back to when nerds and dweebs who just want drone on about politics got shoved in lockers?“
Your lack of intelligence is showing there, Matthew. The majority of the world hopes that you have no offspring.
He has a point.
Not in Oakland Matty. Here is a synopsis of Oakland teams:
Warriors: couldn’t get a stadium agreement done with the city of Oakland, moved to San Francisco
Raiders: didn’t like sharing a stadium with the A’s. Couldn’t get a stadium agreement done with the city of Oakland, moved to Vegas.
A’s: couldn’t get a stadium agreement with the city of Oakland, moving to Vegas.
There is a distinct pattern here that involves more than just Fisher. I agree Fisher bears a lot of blame, but the negotiators at the city of Oakland have lost all the major sports teams they had…
OK here is the real facts.
Warriors never tried to get a new stadium in Oakland. They wanted to move to SF knowing there is no large venues and would be able to have huge concerts with no competition.
Raiders never negotiated with Oakland. Davis wanted to move the team to Vegas for the last decade. They were given $2 billion dollars by Vegas to move there. Who would not take $2 billion when you are the poorest owner in the NFL.
A’s did work with Oakland and was just waiting for the final papers to be d signed but covid hit and A’s owner lost about half of his wealth. Vegas offered free land and $380 million. Fisher still has not shown how he will build it or even the designs on the stadium 6 months past the date he needed to show it.
They still haven’t committed dollar one.
I just wonder if they got the $380 million just yet? I know Vegas schools are suing to stop the redistribution of tax dollars to Fisher.
Arc, none of that has a single shred of fact in it other than Fisher not being able to finance or even come up with renderings for Las Vegas.
And Santa Clara offered the Raiders a brand new shared stadium, Levis Field, to share as the Raiders new home stadium with the 49ers like SOFI for the Rams and Chargers.
Mark Davis passed on it
Don’t forget the NHL team that Oakland lost. The California Golden Seals
That was about 50 years ago. The team was poorly ran and like the A’s refused to pay their own players. It was so bad the NHL bought the team. they moved to Cleveland and even had worse attendance there and moved again 2 years later. They ended up merging with the Stars.
The Athletics have been refusing to pay their players since the 1910’s. .
Any hockey in the US west of the rockies is totally stupid anyway. Or in the deep south. Hockey should only be played where it actually snows. Lol
That Oakland Seals Team was owned by former A’s Owner Charlie Finley who broke up that dynastic Oakland A’s team that won 3 Championships in a row in ’72. ’73. ’74.
Because Finley was either too cheap to pay them OR
because he did not have the money to keep those teams together or both.
That team was loaded with Hall of Fame and All Star players..
Reggie Jackson says that 1970’s Oakland A’s team was
“”THE BEST, MOST TALENTED TEAM HE EVER PLAYED ON INCLUDING THOSE YANKEES TEAMS” that won Championships also.
Fisher is at the center of all 3 of those moves. He renewed his lease at the Coliseum and refused to allow the Raiders to build a new football only stadium on the property. He blocked Lacob from building a new basketball arena on the site of the Coliseum.
The problem has always been Fisher.
Joe Lacob says he has had a “standing offer” for 10 years
to buy the
A’s and build a New A’s stadium in the SF Bay Area.
Fisher, Selig, Manfred and the Giants sabotaged the success of the A’s in the SF Bay Area.
Get the team to bring in the homeless to fill the stands, 2 problems solved in one shot!
Imagine the A’s make the world series in their last year in Oakland. And the new stadium in Vegas would be ready to open the following spring.
Both are equally likely
Well ic you’re the real Matt Stairs formly as a member of the Oakland A’s and Cubs among other teams. I think youd love for the A’s could be biased.
For the record I have no idea what’s going on. I’m currently “reading a book” and I’m on chapter 50 of 51
VERY UNLIKELY.
It is more likely that Fisher does not have the cash and credit to do the Las Vegas stadium deal and that it blows up
and the A’s and MLB have to go somewhere else
and maybe back to the SF Bay Area.
They’re definitely moving to Vegas. They wouldn’t have filed for a relocation if they could get a deal done for a stadium in the bay area.
Happy for Darrell H. Top 20 Orioles prospect stuck behind others on the infield depth chart. Gets his shot in Oakland. Well deserved.
Is Fisher another clueless silver spoon owner? Maybe read your contracts ahead of time.
Fisher was born on 3rd base and thinks he hit a triple.
Anyone can inherit stock from their Dad and relatives.
Not anyone can own and successfully run an MLB franchise
as we can see from Fisher’s incompetence
with the Oakland A’s.
The A’s need to get out of Oakland ASAP – why would anybody want to have a business there and MLB would NEVER give them an expansion team EVER.
I agree 100% the Bay Area is dieing;
Education standards, dignity and critical thinking appear to be absolutely dead where you are from.
SF Bay Area has a 600B dollar per year GDP
which is higher than many countries and most US States.
Only thing dying are your brain cells.
Stranger things have happened, but, I would be stunned if MLB brought an expansion team to Oakland.
This negotiation is just going to be briefly:
A’s: we’d like to temporary lease
Mayor: we won’t do a lease without promise of an expansion
Manfred: we won’t promise an expansion unless unless Oakland builds a new stadium by 2030
And then it’ll just be who budges and lowers demands
the A’s demanded that no other team can use the stadium after the stadium signed deals with a soccer team and a independent baseball team. There is a big hassle on how they can work all 3 teams playing schedule games. Also Oakland will not give them the same price deal as before. No hometown discounts to the A’s. As with Fisher he wants to pay as little as possible.
Reggie Jackson claims Bud Selig blocked him from buying Oakland A’s
The legendary ‘Mr. October’ accuses the former Major League Baseball commissioner of blocking his attempt to acquire the team.
marca.com/en/mlb/oakland-athletics/2023/03/24/641d…
Looks a lot like “Institutionalized Racism”
by Selig, Manfred and Major League baseball..
youtube.com/watch?v=EVlXbORV3_Q