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MLBPA Director Tony Clark Discusses Pitch Clock, Free Agency, Olympics

By Nick Deeds | February 24, 2024 at 7:41pm CDT

MLB Players Association executive director Tony Clark spoke to reporters, including David Brandt of the Associated Press, today about an array of topics including the adjustments made to the pitch clock this offseason and the state of the free agent market.

The players on MLB’s competition committee voted against the slate of rules changes which were approved back in December, and Clark made clear that he feels adjustments to the pitch clock, which was implemented prior to the 2023 campaign, are being made much too quickly. Clark noted that the rules changes “warranted a much longer dialogue” before being put into place. The clock, which allowed 15 seconds between pitches with the bases empty and 20 seconds with runners on last year, will allow only 18 seconds with runners on in 2024. No adjustments were made to the clock when the bases are empty.

“We just had the biggest adjustment this league has ever seen in regards to length of game and how the game was affected, by including a clock,” Clark said, as relayed by Brandt. “Rather than give us another year to adjust and adapt to it, why are we adjusting again, and what are the ramifications going to be?”

Clark added that his primary concern regarding the pitch clock is pitcher health, noting that shortening recovery time between pitches could leave the game’s hurlers more susceptible to injury. The pitch clock modification wasn’t the only change made to the rules this winter. The runners’ lane has been widened to allow players to take a more direct path to first base, the maximum number of allowed mound visits in a game has been reduced from five to four, and pitchers who are sent to warm up for an inning cannot be replaced without entering the game to face at least one batter.

Also discussed during the presser was the possibility of a free agent signing deadline, which MLB commissioner Rob Manfred advocated for earlier this month. Manfred suggested that a deadline in December would allow “two weeks of flurried activity” surrounding the annual Winter Meetings, though he noted that the MLBPA had rebuffed the idea of a signing deadline in the past. Clark confirmed the union’s opposition to the idea, suggesting that “A deadline, in all likelihood, is going to do more damage to players in those conversations than the other way around.”

The possibility of a signing deadline has become a hotly debated topic in the media and among fans this winter thanks at least in part to lack of movement at the top of the free agent market in recent weeks. With Spring Training already underway, four of the top seven free agents from this winter’s addition of MLBTR’s Top 50 free agents list remain unsigned in Cody Bellinger, Blake Snell, Jordan Montgomery, and Matt Chapman. Each member of that quartet is represented by the Boras Corporation, which has developed a reputation for encouraging its clients to be patient upon hitting free agency. It’s a tactic that has yielded a range of results in the past; while Bryce Harper famously landed a $330MM guarantee back in March of 2019, Carlos Correa instead settled for a surprising short-term deal with the Twins in March of 2022.

While it’s clear that the league hopes to curtail the ability of both agencies and clubs to slow-play free agency and create a short, active signing window akin to those seen in other major North American sports leagues, the MLBPA’s resistant to such a plan makes it unlikely that a proposed deadline would find much suggests when collective bargaining talks begin in advance of the current CBA’s expiration on December 1, 2026.

Clark also spoke to reporters about the possibility of MLB players partaking in the 2028 Olympics in Los Angeles, a possibility which has begun to gain steam as MLB has suggested they’ll consider the possibility. In his comments, Clark echoed Manfred by noting that while the possibility of big leaguers participating in the Olympics is an exciting one for players and that there’s been “a lot of dialogue” about it, there remains a long way to go before making the idea a reality. In addition to working out the logistics of having major leaguers participate with the International Olympic Committee, both MLB and the MLBPA would need to sign off on players participating in the games.

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  1. baked mcbride

    1 year ago

    Morpheus speaks!!!

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      1 year ago

      Boom – Bellinger is returning to Cubs on a smart deal for both sides. Reported:

      3 years at $80 million with opt outs after year 1 and 2

      Year 1 $30 million
      Year 2 $30 million
      Year 3 $20 million

      Opt outs are fine with Shaw, Busch and PCA getting ready

      Go, Cubs!

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      • its_happening

        1 year ago

        Nothing like handing out large cash when you have the leverage. Well done.

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      • Fever Pitch Guy

        1 year ago

        Manny – All reports earlier in the offseason had Boras asking for more than $250M, this is a big L for Belli.

        I’m happy for your Cubs though, it’s a great deal for them.

        BTW – MLBTR had predicted $264M for Belli … juuuuust a bit outside.

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        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          The MLB prediction was a ridiculous 12 years. That was never happening.

          So he got $80M/3, which is $184M/9 less than predicted. Assuming good health, Belli still stand a decent chance of coming close to that.

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  2. Yankee Clipper

    1 year ago

    Whether good or bad, they’re the ones who approved the contractual stipulation which gave Manfred unilateral authority to implement these changes after proper notification, and also agreed to the rules committee which oversees the change recommendations. Can’t cry about it now.

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    • bkbk

      1 year ago

      They absolutely can and by that logic you disagree with all lockouts and strikes.

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      • Yankee Clipper

        1 year ago

        No, I say exactly the same when owners cry about players getting something they agreed to. This isn’t an owners v players issue for me. But don’t agree to things you feel are that important; or take a hit on salary or other areas where you feel you can. That’s how contract negotiations work. But to agree to this and then talk about how bad it is tells me they have piss poor foresight and planning.

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        • mlb fan

          1 year ago

          The MLBPA is as weak and ineffectual as it’s ever been. It’s just a reactionary bunch of boobs who cater to the top 5% of players and expect the MSM to do it’s job.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          1 year ago

          There probably are ramifications I’m missing but my thought is to consider a compensation system that increase the longer a player remains a free agent. Reward teams for putting strong offers out early and penalize those players that play the long game. Risks for both sides to not get deals done early.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          1 year ago

          For clarity, I meant compensation such as draft pick lowering, international bonus pool money loss, etc. Redesign the system so it benefits both sides to have free agency mostly done so trades could become the focus before spring training starts.

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        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          There is no reason to do anything. The players have the right to stay out as long as they want.

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    • acoss13

      1 year ago

      Clip,

      The MLBPA should have anticipated that Manfred would tweak the rules again. That’s been his entire schtick, tweaking the rules and testing them in the minors.

      Not defending Manfred, just saying the MLBPA needs to get better at negotiating for the next CBA.

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      • Yankee Clipper

        1 year ago

        Agreed completely, Acoss. Well said, man.

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  3. MLB Top 100 Commenter

    1 year ago

    There is no reason to have a signing deadline it just rewards the owners for being slow in making offers.

    That being said, if I am an owner, the amount that I will offer will go down starting around March 1st due to the risk of injury or lost time – not huge risks but more than zero so offers are doing down and not up. But owners can make this correction no need for a generic rule that encourages owner delay.

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    • Jdt8312

      1 year ago

      It’ll never happen. It removes bargaining power from the players. They will strike before they allow that, and they should.

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      • Fever Pitch Guy

        1 year ago

        Jdt – This is not something the owners need to get permission from the MLBPA.

        It’s really, really simple. Teams need to just tell the free agents that they plan to finalize their roster by February 1st or whatever, therefore the free agents must accept an offer by that date or they won’t be signed by that team.

        Teams can dictate what date they will be done shopping, nobody can force a team to sign free agents after a particular date.

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        • Jdt8312

          1 year ago

          It is part of the collective bargaining agreement. The owners can’t do anything like this until the next CBA. What you’re talking about amounts to collusion, and the owners could be sued, and get into trouble with the Federal Government over labor law violations.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          1 year ago

          Jdt – There is nothing in the CBA forcing teams to sign all free agents by any specific date.

          And no, teams deciding on their own to not sign specific players is not collusion. Geez what is with this mentality that employers can be told who to hire and when?

          So if Boras was demanding $500M for each of the four players and he (with permission from the players) wasn’t willing to reduce his asking price, that means teams should be forced to give his clients $500M each by some arbitrary deadline?

          Collusion is officially “Players acting in concert with other Players and Clubs acting in concert with other Clubs.”

          Teams deciding on their own to not overpay for free agents, not go over their team budget, and not wait to fill their needs until every free agent is signed …. that’s not collusion, that’s just smart business.

          Again, it’s only Boras players that are still unsigned because of his ridiculous demands.

          If anybody can be accused of collusion, it’s his unsigned players. Or Ohtani and Yama deciding ahead of time they will play together on the Dodgers.

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    • Fever Pitch Guy

      1 year ago

      Manny – Am I reading you correctly? You believe it’s the OWNERS fault that so many top free agents are still unsigned?

      All the top free agents still unsigned have the same agent – Boras.

      Which means it’s not the owners fault, it’s him.

      If it was the owners fault, there would be several still-unsigned players who have other agents

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      • MLB Top 100 Commenter

        1 year ago

        Fever Pitch

        In this instance, this year – where no such deadline rule exists – I agree with you that it seems to be Boras who has misread the market. There are only three options. (1) All of Boras’ clients are very close to deals and the final terms which might involve opt-outs are being quietly worked out, (2) Boras misread the market, or (3) owner collusion. I lean toward this being Boras’ fault but without seeing what actual offers his clients have declined, speculation is of limited value.

        But if a rule was created, it would motivate owners to use the deadline threat (which presently does not exist) to coerce player signings.

        The harm of players signing late is less than the harm of owners being able to use a new rule to leverage lower salaries. If it was Boras this time, potential clients will reassess. Boras has a track record of excellent results with some risk.

        I know that some teams do not like dealing with Boras. If I was an owner, around this time of year, I would simply send an email with a PDF with my proposed terms. Yes, Boras would then shop my email to try to get a better deal. But I would be ok with that so the player is made aware of my last ditch offer.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          1 year ago

          Manny – I appreciate your response, but I strongly disagree with it.

          It’s been pointed out here and elsewhere, the Boras stall tactic has hurt players just as often – if not more – than it’s helped. Belli’s $80M contract is a far cry from the $250M+ that Boras was seeking …. no different than Correa’s first contract with the Twins, and countless other late Boras signings.

          Boras has been very successful during the times when he hasn’t used the stall tactic, but that has no bearing on when he does use the stall tactic.

          As for who a deadline would harm most, the MLBPA rejecting it already tells you all that you need to know. It would be kind of like the draft, if you don’t think you can sign an elite player then you draft a lesser one that you know you can sign.

          Teams will never allow Boras to hold them hostage with a deadline. Boras is like an ambulance chaser, he is waiting and hoping contending teams will suffer impactful injuries that force them into a late free agent signing. So far, no luck.

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        • MLB Top 100 Commenter

          1 year ago

          Belli was worth maybe 5 years, $125 million, his three year deal with opt outs is less. Any chitter chatter about double that for Belli was not going to happen. I could see him having sought six years at $150 million as a reasonable posotion at the start.

          Belli has a low floor and a high ceiling.

          Who wanted Belli? Cubs and Giants were interested. When Giants signed Jung Hoo Lee, they were out of picture. Blue Jays and Angels seemed less likely all along, although with Arte you never know.

          My argument is the system is not broke everything worked out fine. Let’s say Boras screwed up, so what, players will pick the agent that suits them best just like always.

          Yes, maybe I am just happy because the Cubs got Belli. But to me, system is not broken, if Boras was asking too much, we will see it in the other results.

          But we really don’t know what offers and positions were exchanged so there is a level of speculation here.

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  4. cbraves

    1 year ago

    BAN THE PITCH CLOCK!!! The pitchers have always and should always have control over the game. Now that MLB want to try to be like the NFL, clock controls the game now more than anything. Also, there does need to be some sort of free agency deadline.

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    • Mustard Tiger

      1 year ago

      The pitch clock is awesome. No way they are going to get rid of it.

      You’re the type of person who argued against the shot clock in basketball. The offensive team has always been in control of the pace of the game!

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      • acoss13

        1 year ago

        I love the pitch clock. I absolutely hated having to watch pitchers shuffle around on the mound and batters step out of the box to adjust their crotch in between pitches.

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        • cbraves

          1 year ago

          I agree about all the unneeded adjustments players made between pitches but I think the pitcher needs a chance to think about what he will throw next. I mean, pitch selection changes the outcome of the game drastically and needs to be thought through, especially when runners are on.

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    • astros_fan_84

      1 year ago

      The pitch clock returns game length to where it was during the golden eras of baseball.

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      • aragon

        1 year ago

        Did shorter games bring in any young fans?

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        • steelerbravenation

          1 year ago

          Attendance & ratings were at an all time high last year so you tell me

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        • westcasey

          1 year ago

          I would say NO to question.

          I AM old school but adjusted to 2023 pitch clock , like players/umps did.

          I think another shortening is a bad idea. Way too early, with insufficient data, to make this additional change.

          I predict it will cause more issues than resolve anything.

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    • JoeBrady

      1 year ago

      The pitch clock is the best change baseball has made during my life.

      I think the NFL and NBA should have play clocks of maybe 40 seconds and 24 seconds.

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    • Citizen1

      1 year ago

      I don’t know. You kinda don’t miss the human rain delay players. Or that instant reply removed the angry manager v umpire arguments of kicking dirt and tossing home plate.

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      • JoeBrady

        1 year ago

        You kinda don’t miss the human rain delay players.
        =============================
        Things I miss, n no particular order.

        1-Perdroia adjusting his gloves for 15 seconds 20x a game.

        2-Buchholz shaking off the catcher 5x every pitch.

        3-Sanchez visiting the mound every inning.

        4-Pitchers throwing over to 1st to keep Papi close, even though he had a one-foot lead.

        5-Having the pitching coach visit the mound, along with the catcher, 1B, 2B, SS, and 3B. Then back to the dugou. Immediately followed by the manager visiting the mound, along with the catcher, 1B, 2B, SS, and 3B, only to pull the pitcher,

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  5. tigerdoc616

    1 year ago

    They have no issues with 18 sec pitch clock with runners on in the minors and they have been doing it for a few seasons now. No significant uptick in pitching injuries from the pitch clock. Suck it up Tony and deal with it.

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    • Jdt8312

      1 year ago

      Where is your evidence of that? How do you know that for a fact? Maybe MLBPA has evidence that it does have an effect on pitcher health, and that’s why they don’t like it.

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      • mlb fan

        1 year ago

        “Where is your evidence”…The highly ineffectual MLBPA is mostly about protecting and promoting the rights of the top 5% of players(executive committees are dominanted by Scherzer/Verlander types)while literally ignoring the needs of the other 95% of their members.

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        • Jdt8312

          1 year ago

          That is neither true, or evidence. 5 seconds I’ll never get back.

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      • Lfgm85

        1 year ago

        If they had that type of evidence they would have released it to the media

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      • JoeBrady

        1 year ago

        Maybe MLBPA has evidence that it does have an effect on pitcher health,
        =====================
        Is this one of those things where they have evidence, but refuse to show it? Because most people don’t bury evidence that can exonerate them.

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        • BlueSkies_LA

          1 year ago

          Refuse to show it to who?

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  6. westcasey

    1 year ago

    I do agree with MLBPA view about another change to pitch clock already.
    Play another season under previously changed rules and see if/how pitcher, batters, umpires, game times fare. Put a clock on replay decisions and see how that affects length and pace of game.

    I think the FA circus is lousy for fans. I don’t have time for listing all the reasons fans who love baseball don’t really care for Clark or Boras.

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    • gbs42

      1 year ago

      westcasey,

      You seem to be placing all the blame for the slow free agent signing pace this year on Clark and Boras. It takes two to tango, so the owners deserve their fair share of the blame.

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      • Dogs

        1 year ago

        The Owners have made a choice, those players are not worth years asked for and/or Dollars Per Year asked for.. If they don’t want to accept what the Owners think is a fair price plus contract length, then they should be forced to sit out a season if not signed by the start of Spring Training, and if that player had a Qualifying Offer Attached, then he can’t have another one again.

        Just my opinion.

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        • gbs42

          1 year ago

          The same owners that have colluded twice before? Sorry if I don’t trust them to always make “fair” offers.

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        • Dogs

          1 year ago

          What is fair in your eyes may not be fair in my eyes, or many other peoples eyes. As a GM, I would not gamble on any long term contract with any of the Borris 4 plus add in JD. JD on a one year and at a much lower price than Borris is asking for. He is an aging DH who will probably decline in production.

          As a Tiger Fan, we saw Victor Martinez & Cabrera finish their Carrers as our DH’s & let me tell you, it has not been nice, many, many years of awful playing & both way over paid, just to DH.

          Management is finally wising up a little, maybe not the Dodgers, but trust me, their contracts will haunt them in the future.

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        • steelerbravenation

          1 year ago

          Don’t get it twisted the owners pay their stars to carry their teams in the hood years and then be the face of the franchise in the lean years that follow. If they can move a player in the lean years and get something for them they will. But there are fans that will still follow a guy in his older years just off nostalgia & there is value in that
          That’s why the players get paid the way they do in the back end of their contracts.
          They know that if there are benchmarks they are trying to reach at the end of their careers that fans will be watching rooting and spending money to witness and they want that compensation
          You don’t think fans were following Reggie in his Angel years to see him reach milestones ?
          You don’t think fans would come out or tune in when he got to visiting teams to see what he would do towards the end ?
          When Miguel Cabrera reached any of his milestones last year do you know how many clicks on social media around the country he got to see the highlights ?
          There is value in that and players should be compensated accordingly

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      • westcasey

        1 year ago

        I don’t think I mentioned blame . I said I don’t want to hear all the reasons for disliking Clark and Boras.

        Of course contracts takes Owner agreement. . It’s player-owner, just not quite that simple.

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        • gbs42

          1 year ago

          westcasey,

          Fair point, you didn’t mention blame. But if you’re citing Boras and Clark regarding the FA circus, owners are as dislikable, maybe moreso.

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  7. mahalkita

    1 year ago

    I still haven’t recovered from the disabled list being renamed.

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    • Michael Carder

      1 year ago

      Me too!! Can’t stop saying DL. Never will

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    • humphrey x boegarts

      1 year ago

      I would approve if they renamed the injured list the “hurt locker”

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  8. prov356

    1 year ago

    “Clark added that his primary concern regarding the pitch clock is pitcher health, noting that shortening recovery time between pitches could leave the game’s hurlers more susceptible to injury.”

    I said all last year the pitch clock could cause injuries to pitchers and I was dismissed. I feel somewhat vindicated in my own mind.

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    • Old York

      1 year ago

      @prov356

      Mark Buehrle averaged about 15 seconds between pitches and generally had an injury-free season. After his rookie year he went on to pitch 15 straight seasons with 30+ starts. Maybe we should encourage more pitchers like him, Greg Maddux and Mike Mussina?

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      • Jdt8312

        1 year ago

        Why should we expect all players to be exactly the same? How much talent are we going to be cheated out of seeing because some guy needed time in between to think about what he was going to throw, and let his arm rest? You can make the argument that they get a half hour more per day to rest their arms, but that doesn’t mean much to a guy who need more time between pitches so his arm can return to it’s relaxed state, rather than the stress that throwing a pitch at 100 mph causes. It’s not all cut and dry.

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    • saluelthpops

      1 year ago

      I’m not sure how two less seconds to throw the ball adds any extra risk for injuries. Catch the ball, get on the mound, and throw a pitch. If that takes more than 10 seconds then it’s a sign that you lack confidence in your pitches.

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    • astros_fan_84

      1 year ago

      There’s the counterpoint that shorter games gives players more recovery time between games. 30 minutes more rest per day adds up.

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      • prov356

        1 year ago

        old york/pops

        I believe the pitch clock causes pitchers to rush their delivery resulting in poor mechanics and greater risk of injury. There will always be exceptions with pitchers who naturally pitch a quick game, but they are few.

        It’s not just the 2 second change. It’s the pitch clock in general. It has nothing to do with confidence in your pitches. And as a fan, the historical nuances of the game are gone with all of these changes. The psychological tactic of stepping off the rubber or stepping out of the batters box to get in your opponent’s head is missing. Or a pitcher picking a guy off first base on the 10th throw over. Those little strategies make for good baseball and they’re gone.

        astros – If you can show that these guys are taking 30 more minutes per day for actual rest, you might have something. Otherwise that’s kinda silly.

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        • steelerbravenation

          1 year ago

          You can make the argument that the pitch clock helps the pitchers find a rhythm and helps the mechanics
          The problem with pitching injuries is & always will be the desire for velocity over location.
          It used to be a pitcher threw at 75-80% and dialed it up when he needed it
          Now pitchers go balls to the wall until he don’t have it & they bring in another guy in that throws harder
          And it’s at all levels starting all the way back to travel ball

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        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          You can make the argument that the pitch clock helps the pitchers find a rhythm and helps the mechanics
          =========================
          I’d bet that the pitch clock hurts batters more than pitchers. Guys like Manny stepped out on every pitch to go thru the sequence and develop a plan.

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  9. User 3014224641

    1 year ago

    “ four of the top seven free agents from this winter’s addition of MLBTR’s Top 50 free agents list remain”

    Would that be an addition or edition?

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      1 year ago

      Guardians

      Yes, article requires an “edit” not an “add-it”

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  10. Deleted Userr

    1 year ago

    MLBPeeA at it again

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  11. saluelthpops

    1 year ago

    What next, crying about uniforms? Oh, wait.

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    • PadsFan84

      1 year ago

      I mean those uniforms are pretty terrible. Because of them we have all seen Schmitt’s berries.

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      • ChuckyNJ

        1 year ago

        And those new Fanatics-made unis borrowed from Lululemon which is famous for its see-through yoga pants.

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  12. burrwick

    1 year ago

    What about the most important issue…uniforms?

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  13. baked mcbride

    1 year ago

    Morpheus Rises!

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  14. Diggerydoo

    1 year ago

    We need those 2 seconds back…so the pitcher can catch his breath.

    The complaints are inane. It’s like a pitcher has to psych himself before each pitch and if he doesn’t he may hurt himself.

    Maybe if they hadn’t been pushing for heat over technique for the last 20 years they would have less of a reason to whine.

    Talent and skill are not the same thing. Throwing a ball at 100 MPH is not the same as finessing the corners. I prefer a duel, not a shoot-out.

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    • Dogs

      1 year ago

      300 pitches per game x 2 seconds = 600 seconds ÷ 60 = 10 minutes saved per game, if every pitch was 20 to 18 seconds every time.

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  15. astros_fan_84

    1 year ago

    MLB does not need a signing deadline, but a holiday freeze would serve both sides. For example, if front offices closed for two or three weeks (to allow those workers vacations) during Christmas and NYE, then players would be incentivized to sign before the pause. There’s no doubt that most front offices would want most work done beforehand and would have less money afterwards.

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    • mgomrjsurf

      1 year ago

      NHL does it but it eliminates more Trades from happening. The problem with Winter Meetings not a lot happening and more happens at Trade Deadline.

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  16. Halo11Fan

    1 year ago

    Did he discuss those horrid uniforms. I’ll read the article now.

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  17. Arnold Ziffel

    1 year ago

    I hope the players zBoras represent lose money because of his tactics. If all 4 come up short that could end his nonsense,

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  18. smacnc

    1 year ago

    Again the MLBPA using another Lame Excuse for top pitchers being injured, this time it’s due to the Pitch Clock…The constant amount of injuries to pitchers will become less frequent once the obsession and ultimatums from Major League front offices and Scouts to “pitch as fast as you can” are eliminated from travel baseball, high school baseball and college baseball.. Until this happens or until individual high school coaches and college coaches start to go ROGUE and train their pitchers to actually truly pitch again with finesse and not value just SPEED, every pitcher is eventually going to go down with arm and shoulder issues…Speed is not helping the sport, it’s killing it and the talented pitchers it’s created… Being one of the highest paid pitchers because of how fast you throw, means nothing if you can’t physically get on the mound and pitch consistently..

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  19. Jdt8312

    1 year ago

    A signing deadline will never happen. It removes bargaining power from the players, and if the owners try to implement one, I would encourage the players to strike. There would be no “bargaining in good faith” ever again. It would make things very easy for the owners. Just wait until the deadline, and undercut the players. Then, if some artificial deadline is reached, what happens to the unsigned players? Do they have to sit out a season? Play in the minors for a period of time? It’s stupid.

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  20. Jdt8312

    1 year ago

    I would like to put forth the idea that even if the players made less, that that money wouldn’t go toward lower ticket, food, drinks, souvenirs. It would go into the owners pockets. The fans will not benefit one iota from lower paying contracts to players.

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  21. Lanidrac

    1 year ago

    When good players are still lingering on the free agent market when Spring Training has already started, it’s generally their own fault.

    First, because it’s usually their own (including their agents) fault that kept them unsigned into February in the first place, by some combination of excessive demands, misreading the market, and/or personal issues.

    Second, because they’re idiots not to lower their demands and scramble for whatever deal they can get as Spring Training begins. Missing even part of Spring Training is more harmful to MLB players (especially pitchers) than missing out on an extra $10M or even more, that is if they even do manage to still get the contract they wanted.

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  22. Lfgm85

    1 year ago

    I like the Olympics idea, mlbs version of the dream team the NBA put out in the 90s but it’s gonna be a hard sell. Will games be played in dodger stadium or have the colosseum repurposed for baseball which leaves a small left field porch that’ll be exploited by right handed hitters. Will NPB and KBO also be willing to shorten or suspend part of their seasons, and is it worth doing with the WBC in 26 and 30? It can go either way.

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    • steelerbravenation

      1 year ago

      If they want professionals on the Olympic team they should use retired players that can still play.
      They are already established stars and who wouldn’t be interested in seeing their favorite players a year or 2 out the game. I know if it was 2 or 3 years after Chipper retired I would have absolutely watched to see him in the Olympics
      I am sure Jeter, ARod, Bonds, Griffey etc fans feel the same way.

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  23. BlueSkies_LA

    1 year ago

    I’ve never seen the new warmup rule actually explained. Does it apply to pitchers warming in the bullpen or on the mound? Neither interpretation of what this new rule means makes any sense.

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    • Herc33

      1 year ago

      It’s throwing warm up pitches on the field. I read an article on CBS sports saying that there were 24 times last year a pitcher was brought onto the field and warmed up only to be replaced before throwing a pitch in the game and it wastes a few minutes when this happens so they outlawed it.

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      • BlueSkies_LA

        1 year ago

        Once the pitcher is on the mound, he should be in the game, so why doesn’t the three batter rule apply? Under what circumstances does this new one-batter rule apply?

        I’ve read MLB’s official explanation on this new rule and they don’t make it clear at all. This is going to be very confusing to fans especially if they are watching at the stadium.

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        • steelerbravenation

          1 year ago

          I think it pertains to when a pitcher is already in the game. Comes out to warm up and then he would be replaced before facing a batter.
          Then the new pitcher comes in & gets a new set of warm up pitches.
          They want to make it so if the pitcher warms up before the next inning he has to face a batter

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        • Herc33

          1 year ago

          The 3 batter rule does apply. I think this happens mostly with L/R switches with a pitcher who had been in the game previously. A hypothetical situation where this could take place is Kershaw (L), who started, comes back out to warm up for the 7th to face Cronenworth (L), who is leading off the inning. Then Ha-Seong Kim (R) is announced as a pinch hitter, so they pull Kershaw out without facing a batter that inning and bring in Joe Kelly (R).

          It’s probably less confusing to fans at the stadium if the pitcher stays in after warming up because the alternative is pitcher warms up -pinch hitter – pitching change – different pitcher warms up – inning starts. That said, this didn’t even happen once per team on average last year so it’s a pretty rare occurrence that they’re getting rid of and I think most people will never know the difference.

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        • BlueSkies_LA

          1 year ago

          These are good theories but the very fact that we need theories about how this rule works only shows how poorly it’s been explained by MLB or anywhere else where I’ve read about it. I can also see how it might be abused.

          Granted this situation is rare (which makes the rule a solution in search of a problem) but I believe in the instances where it is invoked it will be confusing. The manger walks out to the mound to remove a pitcher at the start of the inning, then walks away. Does the pitcher then face one batter and walk off the mound? Or does the manager have to come out again? If the latter, does this count as one mound visit or two?

          I agree with the players. Too many rules changes at once, and some for no clear reason.

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  24. steelerbravenation

    1 year ago

    The problem is going into the off-season with the winter meetings being where they are. They don’t need a deadline for free agency they need a new day free agents can begin negotiating.
    Have the Winter Meetings pushed back & have a legal tampering period where teams can negotiate & then have a day that starts the signing of players
    Also have a set day maybe before FA starts that is for international players being posted have to sign by so they are posted & negotiated all at the same time.
    Baseball’s off season & regular season all have the same problem they are to long but the biggest problem they have in regards to the off-season is they want everything done before NFL playoffs & the SuperBowl. Have Free Agrncy & the winter meetings start the off week after the NFL playoffs
    Gives baseball a week that nobody cares about and the NFL hates because it makes the SuperBowl feel drawn out

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    • ChuckyNJ

      1 year ago

      I’m old enough to remember when the World Series was the biggest thing in American sports. And it hasn’t been that long ago that NFL teams were playing in baseball parks.

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  25. its_happening

    1 year ago

    League had to make smaller ballparks for the fan experience (not talking about the OF fence, it’s foul territory). League had to then put up fencing because of a horrific incident that could’ve been prevented with a bigger foul territory.

    Said foul territory would have also resulted in more foul outs, thus speeding up the game and rewarding pitchers making good pitches. Instead you have hitters getting more chances and adding to the pitch count. Plus they are heavily protected, crowd the plate more, and the hit by pitch continues to rise like it has for 30 years – thanks to said protection. With that, pitchers should be allowed to wear an elbow brace on their pitching arm if they choose. Because there are too many elbow injuries in the game.

    There were ways to speed up the game; push back fences like Baltimore did, bigger foul territory, hitters stay in the box (one foot) after each ball they take, ump enforces hitters to get in and hit.

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    • Arnold Ziffel

      1 year ago

      Cut commercial time, will never happen.

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  26. GarryHarris

    1 year ago

    Justin Verlander was a fast worker at one time.

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  27. steelerbravenation

    1 year ago

    I don’t know how anybody is against the pitch clock
    The flow of the game is so much better
    I am in agreement no reason to change it again yet
    But the implementation of the clock as a whole has been nothing but positive IMO
    No judgement on the pick off attempts yet
    Don’t care for the 3 hitter rule although it kinda does get rid of the LOOGY. I feel if a manager wants to waste arms in the pen than so be it
    I like the extra innings rules to an extent it’s not perfect but I can’t think of another way that is better

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