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Latest On Mike Trout

By Darragh McDonald | June 21, 2024 at 11:25am CDT

Angels outfielder Mike Trout’s recovery timeline seems to be growing. Earlier this week, Sam Blum of The Athletic relayed on X that the superstar says he still hasn’t started running and doesn’t have a target for his return date.

At the end of April, the Angels announced that Trout would require surgery to repair a meniscus tear in his left knee. They didn’t provide a recovery timeline but some reporters suggested a timeline of four to six weeks based on previous surgeries of this nature.

Trout’s surgery took place on May 3, seven weeks ago today. The fact that he’s still not running suggests that he’s nowhere close to a return. Even once he crosses that bridge, he will have to gradually ramp up activities and will likely need some kind of rehab assignment after such a long layoff.

It’s the latest frustrating setback as the recent period of Trout’s career has unfortunately come to be defined by injury absences. From 2012 to 2019, there was only one season in which Trout played less than 134 games. He also played 53 out of the 60 games in the shortened 2020 season. But he hasn’t hit the 120-game mark in any season since then and only got into more than 82 contests once.

The 2021 season saw Trout hit the injured list with a right calf strain that lingered and lingered, limiting him to just 36 games that year. The following year, Trout was healthy enough for 119 games but did deal with some back problems. Last year, a left hamate fracture capped him at 82 games. This year, he was only able to get into 29 contests before the meniscus surgery and it’s anybody’s guess how much he’ll be able to add to that number later in the year.

Those injuries have reduced the quantity of his playing but the quality has still been good. He has slashed .276/.376/.575 since the start of 2021 and has a line of .220/.325/.541 this year despite a .194 batting average on balls in play. But the mounting injuries are a significant problem for the organization.

The Angels had two of the best players in the world on the same team for six years with Trout and Shohei Ohtani both on the roster. But their attempts to build a winner around those two continually fell short, as the Halos haven’t even finished above .500 since 2015.

Now Ohtani is gone, having reached free agency and signed with the Dodgers, while Trout has become an ongoing question mark. The Angels are one of the worst clubs in baseball this year, with a 29-45 record that is ahead of just four clubs.

All in all, very little about the franchise is in good shape. In addition to the struggles at the major league level, most prospect evaluators rank their farm system as one of the worst. Owner Arte Moreno pared back the payroll this winter and it’s unclear when it will ramp up again. A lot of the money they are spending is tied up in Trout and Anthony Rendon, with each of them making more than $35MM annually while frequently injured. Rendon’s deal goes through 2026 and Trout’s through 2030. Trout will reach his 33rd birthday in August of this year.

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  1. getrealgone2

    1 year ago

    Moreno is a bozo.

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    • LordD99

      1 year ago

      Trout. Quick to injure, slow to recover.

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  2. bigalcathey

    1 year ago

    Almost $250 million left on that contract. Sheesh.

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    • Sealbeach Comber

      1 year ago

      Moreno loves to pay players big for past performances. It’s a marketing thing. On the bright side, Trout’s past performance was actually for the Angels.

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      • orange2001

        1 year ago

        Bogus take. Hamilton was coming off his best season. Rendon was one of the best third basemen in the game coming off a championship. Pujols is one of the all-time greats who was putting up big numbers in St Louis. And Trout was in his prime and the best player in the game when he resigned. None of these players were considered past their prime when the Angels signed them.

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  3. Acoss1331

    1 year ago

    No need to rush Trout back. Get him healthy and come back at the right pace to have the rest of 2024 healthy and a healthy 2025.

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    • Senioreditor

      1 year ago

      If only that were true?

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      • phillies012tg

        1 year ago

        As if they didn’t do that all the other years he was hurt lol

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    • letitbelowenstein

      1 year ago

      Healthy 2025 until Memorial Day. A real shame. What he could have accomplished healthy.

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    • Blue Baron

      1 year ago

      Warden: That’s as likely as your aunt getting the equipment to become your uncle, lol.

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      • mookiesboy

        1 year ago

        it’s 2024 She doesn’t need the equipment – she can just say she’s your uncle

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        • Blue Baron

          1 year ago

          LOL

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      • JoeBrady

        1 year ago

        “I’d like to introduce you to my Uncle Ellen and my Aunt Jim.

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    • CKinSTL

      1 year ago

      Agreed, there is absolutely no reason to rush him back.. regardless, I’m not sure we ever see another full season (500+ AB) out of Mike Trout.

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      • Blue Baron

        1 year ago

        To put it another way, he’s 33 and I’m sure we won’t.

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    • Sealbeach Comber

      1 year ago

      I totally agree that Trout can still be a major contributor to this team. He’s not getting any younger, but he just put up a 6.2 WAR season in 2022. Sadly, it probably won’t matter either way because this team couldn’t win a playoff game even when he was racking up MVP’s.

      Those who bag on him, IMHO, are a disgrace to baseball. He AVERAGED 8.98 WAR over eight seasons (2012 through 2019) and all but the last year of that run, he was cost controlled.

      Oh yeah, he also is an 11 time All star. I guess being a 3 time MVP is pretty good too. And being in the top 5 in MVP voting 9 times is not too shabby either.

      How did the Angels capitalize on his once-in-a-generation production while cost controlled? Zero playoff wins over his entire career. Now some fans are bashing him for some decline and his salary? He earned the **** out of that salary.

      He’s older now and probably a bit discouraged about being stuck in a pathetic organization with even more pathetic ownership.

      He was a gift to the Angels and they **** all over it. Moreno got his huge increase in wealth. The perennial 3 million attendance fans got the b.s. and zero playoff wins in 15 years.

      Thank you Mike Trout for being one of the best ever over the course of your career, and for being a positive team player in spite of the team being a long-term dumpster fire.

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      • Blue Baron

        1 year ago

        But 2019 was five years ago. Injuries ruined the rest of his prime age seasons.

        He’s simply no longer on a HOF track. That’s nothing to celebrate or be happy about. It’s just reality.

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        • NationalNightmare

          1 year ago

          I disagree. I think he’s already stamped his ticket to Cooperstown, but his chances of becoming an inner circle Mantle type are gone.

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        • Sealbeach Comber

          1 year ago

          Exactly. He’s been a lock since before 2019. Haters gonna hate though.

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        • Blue Baron

          1 year ago

          Not hating. I have no emotional investment here. I just look at the numbers and see a guy who will struggle to reach 1000 RBI and has only a middling chance to reach 2000 hits.

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        • Sealbeach Comber

          1 year ago

          9 time top 5 in MVP voting. 3 time MVP. He was a lock years ago. And you are presuming he’s done. Which is no sure thing. Sure seems like hating/trolling to me.

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        • Blue Baron

          1 year ago

          Why does it have to be about hating?

          What’s the likelihood of any player getting healthier and more productive after age 33?

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        • TigersLoveCinnamon

          1 year ago

          He’s 4th in career mvp shares, and 50th in career war. You’re high if you think he isn’t first ballot if he never played another game

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        • Blue Baron

          1 year ago

          Sorry, I don’t do drugs anymore. But I’m just going by raw numbers.

          Trout has 1648 hits. At his age with his tendency to get injured, he will be hard pressed to reach 2000 hits.

          The fact is that the most recent hitters to be voted in with fewer than 2000 hits are Roy Campanella, Jackie Robinson, and Larry Doby.

          He’s certainly not going in on the first ballot, and IMO it’s maybe 50-50 that he makes it at all unless he unexpectedly has a resurgence in the next three years.

          But I could certainly be wrong. It wouldn’t be the first time.

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        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          86.2 bWAR. That’s a lock.

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        • mlb fan

          1 year ago

          “Sure seems like hating/trolling”…I’m as big a Trout fan as there is, but the Mike Trout of 5 years ago will not be seen again. Trout is a lock for the HOF, but expressing truth(and disappointment)over his injury history is certainly not “hating”.

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        • SkenesandSlopes

          1 year ago

          Correct. You would be wrong. It will not be the last time. Today.

          Trout will be looked at as one of the best players of his era, if not the best player of his era. That is an automatic first ballot unless he is popped for PEDs.

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        • Tigers3232

          1 year ago

          @Baron Outside of anyone tied to PEDs, all 3 time MVPs are in the HOF.

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        • kingbum

          1 year ago

          Here enters Chris Sale….age 35 sub 3 Era and has been the workhorse for the Braves since they lost Strider

          Justin Verlander….age 41….putting up similar numbers to what he did in 2017, 2006, and 2007

          Justin Turner….age 38….putting up good numbers in Toronto

          My point is really great players like Mike Trout have an extended period of productivity usually which allows them to get to 38+. It’s too soon to write his book

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        • TigersLoveCinnamon

          1 year ago

          Okay boomer

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        • Blue Baron

          1 year ago

          kingbum: If you consider .238 with 5 HR and 22 RBI for nearly half a season “putting up good numbers,” then you’re correct about Turner.

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        • Blue Baron

          1 year ago

          SkenesandSlopes: I’m sure it wouldn’t be the last time.

          But unless you’re so perfect that your crap doesn’t stink, you have no right to judge anyone.

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        • Ma4170

          1 year ago

          Hes easily a HOFer

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        • DorothyMantooth

          1 year ago

          Robinson war: 63.9
          Campanella war: 41.8
          Doby war: 56.8

          Trout war:86.2

          I get your stance on the matter. I don’t think your hating but just maybe have your own barometer of who should be a hall of famer perhaps. I’d be in this same court if this were years ago. But as stats have increased and shown a better value of what a player really is I have to say he definitely is a hall of famer. He’s put up more career war then each of the three you’ve mentioned. While postseason play more then likely won’t be there due to the Angels being lost in the woods, I think he’s earned more then enough accolades combined with said war to stamp his ticket to Cooperstown.

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        • Blue Baron

          1 year ago

          DorothyMantooth: No argument from me, although those three were pioneers of integration and, I believe, were given consideration for the hostile conditions they endured as black players in the late 40s and 1950s.

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        • kingbum

          1 year ago

          I don’t sweat batting average lol….His BABIP is .265 and his on base percentage is .325…..It’s close enough to his career averages that there isn’t anything to worry about….his career on base is .364…..I would be concerned about his power but as long as his on base stays close to career numbers for age 39 I’m not flipping out. He is after all the 2nd oldest guy playing in MLB. Trout has 6 years before he reaches 39….

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        • SkenesandSlopes

          1 year ago

          Baron, it is our inalienable right to judge. Right or wrong. You are making judgements throughout. Why can’t I?

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        • TigersLoveCinnamon

          1 year ago

          You so realize roy campanella wasn’t even the best player on HIS OWN TEAM for any of his mvp awards

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      • SoCalADRL

        1 year ago

        Well said Sealbeach. Everything you said is spot on. First ballot HOFer. The greatest of his generation. Not even a conversation. #8 all time in ops+.

        Blue Baron you clearly have never played the game nor do you any clue about baseball in general. “No longer in the HOF track” is laughable. Just stop talking and go in timeout.

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        • Blue Baron

          1 year ago

          SoCalADRL: I’m sure I’ve played the game as much as you have, and I’ve watched it more.

          Disagreeing is no reason for you to be snarky.

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        • Tigers3232

          1 year ago

          @Baron Even if Trout doesn’t hit any of major the career benchmarks such as 500 HRs, his peak was so absolutely stellar. Essentially an offensive Koufax except Trout sustained the excellence longer.

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    • Melvin McMurf

      1 year ago

      we said that last year, and the year before, and………

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  4. 30 Parks

    1 year ago

    Mike Trout is soft & not trading Ohtani was a massive (and obvious) mistake.

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    • Senioreditor

      1 year ago

      When you’re only concerned about attendance, those are the decisions you make.

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      • SalaryCapMyth

        1 year ago

        What a stupid comment. Trout became injury prone by playing hard. That’s how he was so consistent and steady for so many years and now suddenly isn’t.

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        • avenger65

          1 year ago

          If I was starting a team, my first choice would still be Trout.

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        • scottn59c

          1 year ago

          Only if we’re talking about MLB the Show 16.

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        • vtadave

          1 year ago

          Probably one of many reasons why you’re not a GM.

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        • RunDMC

          1 year ago

          @avenger65 – So you’re the GM and not the owner, right?

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        • Blue Baron

          1 year ago

          SalaryCapMyth: Only four seasons playing 150+ games doesn’t qualify as “so consistent and steady for so many years.”

          There’s a good bit of Don Mattingly and David Wright with Trout: a good player who flashed greatness, but injuries limited him to the 1,500-game range and derailed his career from a Hall of Fame track.

          At 33 and beyond, he’s highly unlikely to regain the health and vigor to alter his narrative.

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        • SalaryCapMyth

          1 year ago

          When you compare Trout to players today, playing four years in a row at over 150 games IS quite consistent. His 2012 season was actually pretty decent as well. If you range it out between 2012 to 2019 that is STILL pretty damn consistent.

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        • Blue Baron

          1 year ago

          But the Mattingly-Wright analogy is still apt.

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        • jamaicajan

          1 year ago

          Seriously? Glad you’re not my GM.

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        • Zerbs63

          1 year ago

          This must be Morenos account..

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        • CKinSTL

          1 year ago

          Blue – nothing against Mattingly and Wright. Both had great careers and deserved/received some HOF consideration… Trout just has better career numbers out of those three.

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        • gbs42

          1 year ago

          The difference between Trout and Mattingly-Wright is Trout punched his ticket to the Hall of Fame on Opening Day of his 10th season, the day he became eligible. He was that good.

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        • trackops

          1 year ago

          Trout is already qualified for the hof if he never plays another inning.

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        • Blue Baron

          1 year ago

          CKin: Don’t think so.

          Mattingly 2153 hits, 222 HR, 1099 RBI, .307 BA
          Trout 1648 hits, 378 HR, 954 RBI, .299 BA

          Other than home runs, Mattingly was the more prolific hitter.

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        • Blue Baron

          1 year ago

          gbs42: Mattingly actually had better numbers than Trout except for home runs.

          Trout hasn’t punched any ticket. He’s no longer on a HOF track.

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        • Blue Baron

          1 year ago

          trackops: No he isn’t. He still doesn’t have 1000 RBI or 2000 hits.

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        • CKinSTL

          1 year ago

          Respectfully disagree. Trout has an 160 point advantage in career OPS.

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        • Blue Baron

          1 year ago

          I can see that. Plus he has a much higher WAR number.

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        • AngelsFan1972

          1 year ago

          Blue Baron aka Mr Crabby pants,

          Trout’s career in far from over. You are basing your numbers off of 2 borderline HOFers whose careers are done.

          Most reasonable people can speculate optimistically that Trout will play out his contract and by the end of that contract have accumulated much more realistics stats to back up how truly great Trout is as a player.

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        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          But the Mattingly-Wright analogy is still apt.
          =====================
          Still not close. I like Mattingly as much as any RS fan is allowed to, but Mattingly had a 127 OPS+ while Trout has a 173.

          A more appropriate comparison would be Dick Allen, with his 156, although not nearly the fielder Mattingly was.

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        • mlb fan

          1 year ago

          “If I was starting a team”…As a huge Trout fan myself, you’d be nuts to choose Trout who’s clearly on the downside of his career, over young superstars like Gunnar Henderson or others. Trout’s an all time great, but one who’s clearly on the backend of his career.

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        • SalaryCapMyth

          1 year ago

          No it isn’t. Unless you mean to say Mattingly and Wright didn’t do well beyond they’re injuries. Oh wait..

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        • Tigers3232

          1 year ago

          @Baron You left out walks, triples, runs, stolen bases, etc…

          Trout leads in all those as well and doing so playing a more premium position in the field. Mattingly simply wasn’t case to Trout.

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      1 year ago

      The Angels attempted to make a playoffs run that year. Better than some other teams with no such aspirations.

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    • SkenesandSlopes

      1 year ago

      When someone says Mike Trout is soft that someone evidently does not watch baseball. Mike Trout is injury-prone, not soft. An absurd claim to call him soft.

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    • Johnny Bravo

      1 year ago

      Blame Arte Moreno he’s a idiot just sell the #### team

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  5. solaris602

    1 year ago

    For what it’s worth, this is always my argument against the existence of med beds. If they actually existed and did what they’re claimed to do, every professional sports team would have at least one, and IL stints would be much shorter if they’re needed at all. Just an observation.

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    • Dubbs

      1 year ago

      Think about it a little deeper and you’ll realize why these beds wouldnt be out there for the entire public to know about them

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      • avenger65

        1 year ago

        solaris602: Not sure what med beds are, but maybe Trout should try a few hours each day in a hyperbaric chamber. Hockey players use them all the time, especially during the PO. It helps them heal faster to get ready for the next game.

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    • JoeBrady

      1 year ago

      Does anyone actually use a med bad? I mean, I can take rocks from my backyard, polish them up, and someone will bite that they are a medical miracle.

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    • toycannon

      1 year ago

      what exactly is a med bed?

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      • hiflew

        1 year ago

        Something that does not exist except in the mind of QAnon believers and people that think the “deep state” is real.

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      • TurnOffTheTV

        1 year ago

        @hiflew
        If you haven’t figured out the “deep state” is real I don’t know what it will take. The unelected, entrenched establishment bureaucracy that stays in power regardless of which party is in control, is the deep state. Call it what you want, the deep state, the blob, etc. but to state it doesn’t exist is foolish and naive.

        I don’t think I can reply to you as you probably blocked me. You sound like one of those people that are offended by differing opinions.

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        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          I’d make a fairly serious wager that more Far Left holistic types try out a med bed than anyone on the right. Medical quackery is not really a RW thing.

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        • gbs42

          1 year ago

          “Medical quackery is not really a RW thing.”

          Suntanning your sphincter.
          Using bleach to treat COVID.
          Anti-vaxxers.

          I’d say medical quackery is present on both sides of the aisle.

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        • gbs42

          1 year ago

          TurnOffTheTV,

          Differing opinions are one thing. Blaming everything on some bogeyman with no evidence to support your claims is another.

          All opinions are not created equal.

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        • TurnOffTheTV

          1 year ago

          If a tree falls in the woods and the media doesn’t report it, did it happen???

          Using bleach to treat covid – No one ever stated.
          Safe and effective – It wasn’t tested.

          Crazy how much the media can control minds.

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        • gbs42

          1 year ago

          TV,

          You still haven’t presented any evidence of the “deep state.”

          Crazy how much some people want to believe things.

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        • SkenesandSlopes

          1 year ago

          gbs42, you referenced bleach to treat covid twice. If you actually believe that was legitimately said word for word, the evidence presented to you would go over your head.

          This is not an opinion. It is a simple fact that you are not capable of understanding much based on the comments you’ve jotted down in this thread.

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        • gbs42

          1 year ago

          Skenes,

          I referenced it once, presented as an out-there medical quackery. Do I think it was said word for word? No, but the leader of the RW crowd certainly alluded to it, the same guy lacking the scientific understanding to know not to look at an eclipse.

          It’s my opinion you don’t understand facts vs. opinions, nor do you know how to count to two, apparently, based on the comment you jotted down in this thread.

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        • SkenesandSlopes

          1 year ago

          You referenced it twice, actually. Thank you for proving my point as you are not capable of understanding.

          First reference is above “anti-vaxxers”.

          Second reference is above “safe and effective” in your second ignorant comment.

          I guess this means I win, but I would rather say that you lose. You’re not getting your money’s worth here being this ignorant.

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        • gbs42

          1 year ago

          Um, sorry, but “safe and effective” was TurnOffTheTV’s comment.

          Maybe you can’t count or read. My sympathies.

          Winning!

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        • its_happening

          1 year ago

          Skenes that was TV that said it a second time to prove gbs is not bright. Read better.

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        • TurnOffTheTV

          1 year ago

          I told you very clearly who the deep state are
          “The unelected, entrenched establishment bureaucracy that stays in power regardless of which party is in control, is the deep state.”

          Are you expecting the media to report on that??? It’s like when I tell some people the media censors stories and they ask for a main stream source saying it.

          With regards to your bleach comment, its exactly like the very fine people comment. The media cut out the relevant part leaving something totally different. Look for the entire quotation. It was a hypothetical.

          Wake up.

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        • gbs42

          1 year ago

          TV,

          Regarding the deep state, do you have names? A single name?

          Regarding the bleach comment, it was one of three examples of RW “medical quackery,” and it was shorthand to get a point across quickly. Mea culpa for not providing the necessary disclaimers.

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        • TurnOffTheTV

          1 year ago

          Victoria Nuland, The Vindman Brothers, Eric Ciamarella, the leadership in the intelligence agencies.
          I could name many more.
          You used a false quote to try to prove a point. That is the issue. The fact that people still believe the false information is the bigger issue.

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        • gbs42

          1 year ago

          So if the media isn’t reporting that they’re the deep state, how do you have this knowledge?

          Setting aside the bleach, sphincter tanning and anti-vaxxers certainly represent RW medical quackery.

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        • its_happening

          1 year ago

          How do you not gbs?

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        • gbs42

          1 year ago

          it’s,

          Please share your insights, educate us with your knowledge.

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        • its_happening

          1 year ago

          Not sure if anyone can get through to you. Anti-vaxxers? Every one of us has had a vaccine and if someone said they didn’t want the Covid vaccine that was fast-tracked with little to no testing done, how does that make them anti-vaccine? Maybe they wanted to deploy the “my body, my choice” position I’m sure you claim to believe.

          What you’ve probably not heard is the big companies you see advertising around the ballparks are being sued. Even if you have heard you’ve already bought the storyline from MSM as you’ve proved to be gullible enough to join the cult-think. The fact that you’d believe “anti-vaxxers” shows it. Get out while you can.

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        • TurnOffTheTV

          1 year ago

          I said mainstream media. There is lots of quality independent journalists out there. They imprison some, see Julian Assange.

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        • Brew88

          1 year ago

          Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, elementary school teachers, curbside trash collectors

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        • gbs42

          1 year ago

          Anti-vaxxers is in reference to those who think vaccines cause autism.

          I think my favorite part of this exchange is how you seem to think you know me so well based on a few comments.

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        • gbs42

          1 year ago

          Brew88,

          Those sound like lyrics to a sequel to We Didn’t Start the Fire.

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        • Brew88

          1 year ago

          While we’re at it, La La La,let’s take out those deep state national weather service forecasters, the teachers and the national guard. La la la. Those bureaucrats and tax accountant ants are making life hard, border patrol is in kahoots with the fbi, remkving my rights and my apple pie, flab lab lah

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        • prov356

          1 year ago

          gbs – you are obviously not up on the latest covid vax news. the anti-vaxers were correct all along.

          4
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        • Brew88

          1 year ago

          90% of mortalities were to non-vaxed. Lay off da Faux knewz

          Reply
        • Brew88

          1 year ago

          Approx. 80% of Covid mortalities in US were to unvaxed, if u trust the data collected by deep state nurses

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        • TurnOffTheTV

          1 year ago

          I admire your commitment to the vax. It’s hard to admit being wrong.
          BTW Fox is just as bad as the others.

          2
          Reply
        • Brew88

          1 year ago

          Conflict with reality can’t be easy

          Reply
        • gbs42

          1 year ago

          prov,

          I’m talking about the autism anit-vaxxers. Are they actually correct?

          Reply
        • Halo11Fan

          1 year ago

          They sure were. And had the government not censored information, some of us would have actually had the information to make an informed choice.

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          Reply
        • Halo11Fan

          1 year ago

          First off, it wasn’t a vaccine. Second, I highly doubt the number was that high, not when they counted gunshot deaths, car accidents and cancer death as Covid deaths.
          Remember, the hospitals were incentivized to call everything a Covid death.

          And most importantly, young people did not have to take the fake vaccine.

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          Reply
        • Brew88

          1 year ago

          Yeah sure buddy, 7 million died of gun shot wounds while on ventilators

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        • TurnOffTheTV

          1 year ago

          Dying with covid and dying of covid are 2 totally different things. The vast majority of people to die from covid had multiple co morbidities.

          2
          Reply
        • Halo11Fan

          1 year ago

          If you still believe the Covid lies than you have discernment issues. It’s amazing how few died of the flu that year. The standard flu deaths went on vacation.

          My 91 year old cancer riddled Uncle died of Covid as well, even though he caught it, was treated, and died two months later.

          You were lied to. You still don’t know that?

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        • its_happening

          1 year ago

          I do know you well gbs. You’re a paid subscriber with little baseball knowledge and you’re part of a cult. Nothing special, not even ordinary, plenty of hatred in your heart.

          See, pretty easy scoring report.

          Reply
        • its_happening

          1 year ago

          90, 80, you’re 100% off the mark. Next you’ll pretend the Brewers play in a strong division and care about winning. Figure it out.

          Reply
        • its_happening

          1 year ago

          gbs, you’re not talking autism but good lie. Cult-like comment.

          Reply
        • gbs42

          1 year ago

          it’s,

          You’re proving your ignorance.

          Reply
        • Brew’88

          1 year ago

          @ everyone above. It’s not like me to enter into conversation here that veers away from baseball, especially when it transcends into politics and the conspiratorial world that so dominates our society today. So let’s all try to keep it mlbtr here eh?

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        • gbs42

          1 year ago

          Good idea, Brew. I shouldn’t have engaged in non-baseball… stuff.

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      1 year ago

      What med beds claim they do and the actual results of using one are worthless without scientific data. And how would one know if players already have one at home while rehabbing? They’re also not all the same.

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    • gbs42

      1 year ago

      solaris,

      I had never heard of a med bed until reading your comment, so I looked them up. If you’re arguing with anyone about their existence, you’re wasting your time.

      1
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  6. jerseyjohn

    1 year ago

    I can’t think of a guy who turned into a pumpkin faster than Rendon. Washington got all the value and the Angels all the early decline and payroll hit. Not a fan so I don’t care just observing.

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    • SalaryCapMyth

      1 year ago

      I certainly don’t think you’re wrong. The same thing happened with Pujols. Good observation.

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      • hiflew

        1 year ago

        Not even close. Pujols might not have been worth the money he was paid for the Angels, but he was still a quality major league player. Not to the level he was with the Cardinals, but still pretty good. Rendon has been infinitely worse. More comparable to Josh Hamilton with the Angels instead.

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        • natxandria

          1 year ago

          Minus the drugs of course

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    • avenger65

      1 year ago

      jerseyjohn: That’s because, as Rendon himself has said, he doesn’t like the game. Too bad Moreno didn’t know that before he signed him.

      1
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    • scottn59c

      1 year ago

      Frankly, any team that takes on a 33 year old Mike Trout is going to be absorbing a similar decline.

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      • Gomez Toth

        1 year ago

        I suspect that decline wouldn’t happen quite so quickly if he was suddenly playing for the Dodgers. Then we’d be hearing a lot of “Boy I sure feel great, and I didn’t have to move.” Winning teams often have remarkable curative powers.

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    • Brew88

      1 year ago

      Khris Davis went pumpkin after gettin a big contract

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      • jerseyjohn

        1 year ago

        Brew88, good example. Davis went ass out also. I think he had the decency to retire a year early at least. Rendon sucks out loud and is always hurt.

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  7. terry g

    1 year ago

    It takes more than a couple of star players to make a good team..

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  8. Rsox

    1 year ago

    Trout’s timeline is spring training. He has no interest in playing while the team is absolutely dreadful. Another long-term albatross contract for Moreno to get nothing out of

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    • avenger65

      1 year ago

      Rsox: Not exactly true. Trout could give permission to be traded but he said he doesn’t want to leave. I think it has more to do with him and his family being happy where they are.

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      • Blue Baron

        1 year ago

        At 33, Trout has to be considering his life after baseball, not where to play for the couple of years or less he might have left.

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      • Rsox

        1 year ago

        Trout can give all the permission to be traded he likes but after what 6, 7 years of missing significant time to injuries does anyone really think there would be anyone wanting to take on the remainder of his contract?

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        • Blue Baron

          1 year ago

          Reminds me of Robinson Cano when the Mets took on his contract. The Mariners had to give up Edwin Diaz to make that happen.

          Not sure the Angels have the equivalent cheap young talent to package with Trout and his contract.

          Reply
        • Gwynning

          1 year ago

          Rsox- Arte would have to eat at least half that paper just to start the convo.

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        • User 3594734386

          1 year ago

          Title of this article should read “Latest on the Ghost of Mike Trout”.

          Reply
  9. eddiemurraysafro

    1 year ago

    Arte Moreno is probably the worst owner in sports now. He spends money on deals that have blown up in his face, (Josh Hamilton
    , Gary Matthews, Jr.) Doesn’t spend any money on pitching? This franchise is a grease fire.

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    • avenger65

      1 year ago

      Eddie: I’ll call your take on Moreno and raise you one Reinsdorf.

      2
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      • CC Ryder

        1 year ago

        It’s possible Jerry Reinsdorf is the worst owner in two leagues

        5
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        • Steinbrenner2728

          1 year ago

          I’ll also raise a John Fisher, too

          Reply
    • hiflew

      1 year ago

      Except he did spend money on pitching, except those blew up too. CJ Wilson, Trevor Cahill, Jose Quintana, Cody Allen, Matt Harvey, Julio Teheran, and Joe Blanton are just some of the pitchers signed over the 15 years or so that didn’t work out. The one thing that keeps me going as a Rockies fan is that I can always think that at least my team is not as bad in free agency as the Angels.

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  10. AngelsFan1972

    1 year ago

    blah blah blah blah
    same ol’ story, same ol’ comments

    5
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  11. sad tormented neglected mariners fan

    1 year ago

    The angels would be better even with a cheap owner because at least low payroll teams have a sense of direction

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  12. Seamaholic

    1 year ago

    Goodness did they eff everything up. At least with the other mismanaged teams like the White Sox and Rockies, they have a reasonable excuse that they have been unlucky with their personnel and have rarely had enough talent to be genuinely good (and the Rockies have Coors Field as a major hurdle on top of that). But the Angels freakin’ had the two best players of their generation! At the same time! And they’re gonna lose both for nothing, after not even making the playoffs with them. Amazing. That kind of incompetence is hard.

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    • Dumpster Divin Theo

      1 year ago

      Overpay

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  13. the guru

    1 year ago

    imagine the stats he would’ve put up if he was playing on one of those 6 teams that were cheating stealing signs in 17′- 19′. Or on one of the teams last year that was hacking pitch coms before they fixed it.

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    • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

      1 year ago

      Healthy Trout on 17 Astros would’ve batted .400 and draw walks and have a higher ops than the bonds years

      People would’ve found out the cheating sooner

      Reply
    • Gomez Toth

      1 year ago

      “hacking pitch coms before they fixed it.”
      I have a pretty good (make that bad) feeling that the recent, preternaturally good hacks up and down the Boston lineupy, independent of count or the particular pitcher, indicates the operation of some…electronic assistance. And we know at least one of the principals on that team is hardly above applying such tools. Hell, if the MIT fans haven’t already worked this all out by now, they shouldn’t call themselves fans.

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      • the guru

        1 year ago

        no doubt the brewers and red sox both are doing something to balls or stealing signs still. babip is through the roof and too many career minor leaguers all of sudden hitting .300

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  14. Old York

    1 year ago

    I didn’t know Trout was still in the league.

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  15. Dumpster Divin Theo

    1 year ago

    Bust

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  16. Dumpster Divin Theo

    1 year ago

    Overpay

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  17. Lefty_Orioles_Fan

    1 year ago

    It’s the latest frustrating setback as the recent period of Trout’s career has unfortunately come to be defined by injury absences. From 2012 to 2019, there was only one season in which Trout played less than 134 games.

    I love how this is phrased

    The reality is, Trout has not played a full season since 2017!!!!

    SMH

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  18. avenger65

    1 year ago

    The next time I have surgery, I’m gonna call my local newspapers to find out how long my rehab will be.

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  19. Rugga

    1 year ago

    Surely when he returns he becomes a full time DH. In the lineup he’s still a strong contributor but he hasn’t had a full year in about 8 seasons now. As he progresses into his 30s the likelihood of his body handling an OF role will further diminish not improve.

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  20. taran7

    1 year ago

    Give him to the Dodgers. We’ll give you a few kids and we’ll just get Trout ready for October.

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  21. marcfrombrooklyn

    1 year ago

    As was discussed in one of the Realmuto articles, it takes longer to heal from meniscus repair surgery as opposed to where the torn meniscus is removed, but you are more likely to end up with an arthritic knee if the cartilage is removed.

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  22. swinging wood

    1 year ago

    He’s still tracking Mickey Mantle’s career quite well. Sucks that we’re at the injury stage.

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  23. SportsFan0000

    1 year ago

    As I have been posting for the last 2-3+ years, The Angels should have “cashed in” on both Trout and Ohtani in separate trades.

    With the right GM and the right 2 separate deals at the time that Trout and Ohtani were both healthy and playing well, The Angels could have received a massive haul of top young players and highly rated prospects with huge upsides.
    Anywhere from 8-12 top young players in two separate deals could have loaded up the Angels Roster and farm system with great young talent and made the team a serious contender within 3-4 years of the deals.

    Moreno means well, but he needs Hire a top Rated Baseball Executive to completely teardown and rebuild the Angels Front Office, Scouting system, minor leagues (development), domestic and international drafting/signing and a team that makes great trades also.

    Get the right Front Office people (like Mike Elias who rebuild the Orioles in 3-4 years) and just get out of the way and let them do their jobs.

    Moreno’s biggest mistake was being a “hands on” Owner.
    It may work in the business world, but MLB success requires hiring top rated Front Office talent, given them a yearly budget and getting out of their way for most decisions. Many teams have a “veto power” with Owner if a deal will empty the farm system or cost a large financial commitment over many years.

    Otherwise, Ownership can be “spinning their wheels” or running in place for years and never know what they are doing wrong because their ego is too big, because they are reluctant to let go of their real life fantasy team that they invested a lot of $$$$$to buy, and they won’t admit they they are wrong and need some expert baseball Executives experience to make it work.

    If Trout was not healthy for awhile, then that could lower the returns and may have made a trade of him not the best move to get the higher rate of returned players required to rebuild the
    Angels.
    Ohtani was not resigning with the Angels.
    His trade value was very high his last few years with the Angels.

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      1 year ago

      Moreno’s M.O. is profits and attendance gate receipts. His people have done quite well getting fans to show up. All the while without having to the take the risks of going over the LTT. Why change when there is zero motivation for a championship?

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    • letsplaytwo

      1 year ago

      Sportsfan 0’s
      Trout has a No Trade Clause and doesn’t want to leave Anaheim. Your long article was a nice form of Fantasy Baseball.

      Reply
  24. Halo11Fan

    1 year ago

    The Angels never had the two best players in the world on the same team.

    Ohtani was not special in 2018 and 2019, and was horrible in 2020.

    Trout was hurt in 2021, 2022 and 2023.

    At some point it’s not a mistake anymore, it’s a flat out lie.

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    • whyhayzee

      1 year ago

      The Angels had Jim Fregosi and Bobby Knopp at the same time.

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      • whyhayzee

        1 year ago

        Knoop dang it.

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      • Halo11Fan

        1 year ago

        Knoop? Is that a joke?

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    • orange2001

      1 year ago

      H11F – finally, some facts.

      Reply
  25. YankeesBleacherCreature

    1 year ago

    Moreno’s M.O. is profits and attendance gate receipts. His people have done quite well getting fans to show up. All the while without having to the take the risks of going over the LTT. Why change when there is zero motivation for a championship?

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  26. Halo11Fan

    1 year ago

    Willie Mays just passed away, there is something special about a player and a team and Trout’s statue will be in front of the Angel’s stadium as longer than anyone here will be alive.

    I don’t know how far he’ll go up on the all time greats list, but he’s already near the top, He’s already well beyond Griffey, and he’s a better human being than player.

    I don’t mind one bit that he’s an Angel.

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    • User 401527550

      1 year ago

      Trout in no where near Griffey. He might not even make the hall of fame at the rate he’s not playing.

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      • Halo11Fan

        1 year ago

        Really, no where near Griffey?

        fWAR Griffey, 77.7.

        Trout is 32 years old, 85.7.

        You have no idea what you are talking about.

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      • AngelsFan1972

        1 year ago

        Trout WILL make the HOF

        Nice try…trying to stir things up though.

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    • AngelsFan1972

      1 year ago

      Halo
      In addition to what you said
      Griffey had a string of years being hurt as well. He came back, at an older age, to preform admirably. With Trout there is hope he can do the same.

      I realize this is possibly “a wish”, but no one knows for certain. Good or bad.

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      • Halo11Fan

        1 year ago

        Trout was leading the ML is home runs when he got hurt.

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        • Brew’88

          1 year ago

          When he plays, Trout is one of the best to ever play the game. When he plays.

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        • Halo11Fan

          1 year ago

          Well how can someone be the best when he doesn’t play?

          Not counting known PED cheaters, Trout is top 6 in WAR over the last 50 years.

          I’ll bet big money he moves into the top four or five by the end of next year.

          Then he’s about 1500 ABs from being number 1.

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        • Brew88

          1 year ago

          I agree with you about his greatness. But you’re the one who mentioned that he got hurt and is no longer leading the league in HRs.

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        • Halo11Fan

          1 year ago

          I didn’t understand your comment. I think I do know. I was confused with “best ever to play the game.”

          I was thinking over his career he’s the best, but you were mentioning today.

          His days of a post 7 WAR are likely over.

          Today, when Trout plays, I don’t think he’s one of the top players in the game. His upside, when he plays, is all-star.

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  27. Americanentropy

    1 year ago

    I wish they would trade him and put him out of his misery. Dude deserves better.

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    • AngelsFan1972

      1 year ago

      and there it is

      The Trout needs to be traded……ugh

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  28. wifflemeister

    1 year ago

    Even though it is still early, I thought for sure that Wash would turn these guys around but that doesn’t seem to be the case.
    That would seem to indicate that the problem is not in management of the team but more likely in the GM area.

    Reply
    • woodhead1986

      1 year ago

      The idea that an utterly out of touch old grump would work out well is so funny. How did anyone expect results from him in 2024? It didn’t work for TLR, it didn’t for wash, and it only “worked” for dusty because that astros team was idiot proof. And I do mean idiot.

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    • Samuel

      1 year ago

      “The idea that an utterly out of touch old grump would work out well is so funny.”
      –
      Anyone that follows or knows the first thing about MLB realizes what an inaccurate and vile comment that is.

      Here’s a deserving, well-earned one back – you’re a pathetic poster, woodhead1986.

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  29. User 2976510776

    1 year ago

    I wouldn’t say it’s going slower than normal. Ever since Minasian became GM every injury is painted as “the best possible outcome” or *he could be back this year”. And then the expectations are raised and then it doesn’t usually happen in the original timeframe or the injury was worse than previously described. The question is why is all this necessary for a last place team unless you’re withholding injury info for betting purposes or something. It makes no sense. With other teams they’ll let you know if they guy is out with a root canal. The Angels would make up some elaborate story instead

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  30. jorge78

    1 year ago

    Not a surprise. He’s become a slacker.
    But ugh, he rosters
    with the Angels.
    Don’t blame him at all…..

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    • Halo11Fan

      1 year ago

      There is much more evidence you’re an idiot than Trout is a slacker.

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  31. Brew’88

    1 year ago

    With Mays’ passing I’ve been thinking about the next giant of the game and Trout came to mind. He had the opportunity for a career that would have put placed him among the elite of the game but unfortunately the steady string of injuries won’t let that happen – a career cut short similar to Griffey Jr, or Mantle. If healthy, Trout would have easily reached 600 HRs, 3,000 hits, 2,000 RBI and 2,000 runs scored.

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  32. woodhead1986

    1 year ago

    So sad that so many baseball “fans” are full blown haters and Clowns.
    Trout is already one of the top 10-20 players ever, he’s a supreme talent, the type of career that you should consider yourself LUCKY to have lived through. And instead? Nothing but smack talk, accusations of laziness and smug, nastiness. What’s wrong with you all? Do you even like baseball or just the team that geography picked for you? Pathetic.

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    • AngelsFan1972

      1 year ago

      Wood

      Most of the responses are from people who like to incite anger and then go hide in a corner to watch the chaos.

      I am willing to bet they are only replying during commercial breaks of the Kardashians. haaaaaaaaaaaaa

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      • Samuel

        1 year ago

        This virtuous comment from a loser that just did the exact thing he accuses other of doing by lambasting Ron Washington above – a man respected by literally everyone
        in MLB.

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  33. TrillionaireTeamOperator

    1 year ago

    And yet he will somehow magically be given 11.7 WAR for the 2024 season.

    Reply
    • woodhead1986

      1 year ago

      Durr numbers scary!

      Reply
  34. Citizen1

    1 year ago

    Trout will likely be back by the all star break. Trout will make the HOF. Better numbers than say joe Mauer and he’s still playing & Mauer made the HOF. I guess as badly as the angels are run , one is witnessing in modern times how such a hof caliber player is on a bad team or badly run org, there’s been a few hof players on bad teams and I’ve always wondered why those teams never built around good players.

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  35. Johnny Bravo

    1 year ago

    Arte Moreno and Perry Minasian missing an action prisoners of war

    Damn, who’s running the team AI digital bot

    Alexa, make out the Angels batting order for tonight game

    Reply
  36. jimmy ray hart

    1 year ago

    I’m not an angel fan

    but I do have a question …

    Trout knew what team he was signing up for when he signed his big contract a few years ago

    Is there any truth to the thought that he doesn’t really like the limelight
    …

    There are Dodger fans who don’t think Kershaw should be in the Hall of Fame because he hasn’t been able to perform well in the playoffs …

    Trout may never have that accused of him … and maybe he’s OK with that?

    Not a hater – just asking …

    Reply
    • cencal

      1 year ago

      Dodger fan or not, anyone that thinks Kershaw shouldn’t be in the HOF isn’t worth listening to.

      Reply

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