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Mets Acquire Phil Maton From Rays

By Darragh McDonald | July 9, 2024 at 11:59pm CDT

The Mets have acquired right-hander Phil Maton from the Rays, per announcements from both clubs. The Rays will receive a player to be named later or cash considerations. Mets president of baseball operations David Stearns said the club is taking on all of Maton’s remaining salary, per Anthony DiComo of MLB.com on X. The Mets designated left-hander Joey Lucchesi for assignment to get Maton onto their 40-man roster. The Rays recalled right-hander Manuel Rodríguez to take Maton’s place on their active roster.

Maton, 31, signed with the Rays as a free agent in the offseason. The two sides agreed to a one-year deal with a $6.5MM guarantee, in the form of a $6.25MM salary and a $250K buyout on a $7.75MM club option for 2025.

Thus far, that deal hasn’t played out the way the Rays had hoped. Maton has tossed 35 1/3 innings, allowing 4.58 earned runs per nine. He has struck out just 19.7% of batters faced while giving out walks at an 11.8% clip. His 49.5% ground ball rate is strong but he’s also allowed six home runs on the year, a rate of 16.2% per fly ball.

That performance is significantly worse than what Maton provided in recent seasons. From 2020 through 2023, with Cleveland and Houston, he tossed 220 innings with a 3.93 ERA, 27.8% strikeout rate, 9.2% walk rate and 40.4% ground ball rate. He was also quite good at avoiding damage, with his average exit velocity being among the best in the league in his career.

The Mets are essentially buying low in this deal, getting a veteran reliever without giving up any prospect talent. Perhaps that will change if the PTBNL turns out to be a player of significance, but they may be effectively buying Maton.

The bullpen has been the biggest issue for the Mets this season. Their relievers have a collective 4.16 ERA, which is in the bottom half of the league. A couple of their better relievers have been lost to season-ending elbow surgeries, with Brooks Raley and Drew Smith both done for the year. Sean Reid-Foley and Shintaro Fujinami are also on the injured list due to shoulder issues.

Despite those bullpen struggles, the club has stayed in the playoff race. They are currently 44-45, just 2.5 games back of the Padres for the final Wild Card spot. It was reported last week that the club was going into the deadline with a buyer’s mentality and could focus on bullpen help, with this move fitting into that framing.

Obviously, the Mets will be banking on Maton’s struggles this year being a bit of a blip and he’s already shown some positive signs of a turnaround. After a four-run outing on June 9, he was sitting on an ERA of 6.56. But over the past month, he has only allowed one earned run in 12 innings, striking out 11 opponents while giving out just one walk. Even if he can’t fully maintain that level of dominance, it’s not unreasonable to expect something better than his season-long numbers.

For the Rays, they have been doing some modest selling of late, though nothing that would necessarily tank their chances of competing here in 2024. They flipped starter Aaron Civale to the Brewers, netting a prospect and some cost savings. But that didn’t really downgrade the rotation as they were able to call up Shane Baz to take Civale’s rotation spot. They are 44-46 and 5.5 games back in the playoff race, giving them a chance of climbing back into it.

Now they have been able to shed a bit more money, getting rid of a player that has largely been underperforming on the season, recent hot streak notwithstanding. The Rays are generally quite good at finding or developing relievers and Rodríguez could fill in for Maton, as he has a 2.79 ERA in the majors this year and a 1.09 mark in Triple-A.

Speaking of that money, the Mets will be taking on more than the Rays are saving, thanks to the competitive balance tax. Maton is still owed about $2.74MM on his salary, as well as the $250K buyout. The Rays will scrub that from their books but the Mets are a third-time CBT payor and well over the fourth and final tax threshold. That means they are paying a 110% tax on any additional spending, so will be actually paying around $6MM to get Maton on the club for the final few months of the season.

Under owner Steve Cohen, the Mets have been pretty unafraid of spending money and are once again flexing some financial muscle to upgrade the club. The Mets have been walking a fine line since about this time last year, looking to keep the big league club in contention without significantly harming the pipeline of young talent in the farm system and also trying to avoid adding long-term costs to their ledger. They still spent money in the offseason but limited themselves to short-term deals and this move is essentially a midseason version of that.

The cost is primarily financial but they also could lose Lucchesi. The lefty made one spot start for the big league club this year but has primarily been kept on optional assignment. He has made 15 Triple-A starts this year with a 4.20 earned run average, 17.9% strikeout rate, 9.7% walk rate and 53.6% ground ball rate.

Lucchesi is a decent depth option but he may have been on the road to getting squeezed off the roster anyway. He is in his final option year and will therefore be out of options next year. The Mets have also had improved rotation depth as the season has gone along. David Peterson and Kodai Senga each started the season on the injured list but Peterson has since returned and Senga recently started a rehab assignment. The Mets have also seen Christian Scott jump up from the minors and take hold of a rotation spot.

The current rotation consists of Scott, Peterson, Luis Severino, Jose Quintana and Sean Manaea, with Senga on his way back. José Buttó and Adrian Houser are currently in the big league bullpen but either could be considered rotation depth and the club also has Tylor Megill on optional assignment. That’s enough starting depth that the club is reportedly considering trading someone from that group while still trying to compete here in 2024, much like the Rays did with the aforementioned Civale deal.

Whether that comes to fruition or not, Lucchesi was largely buried in that rotation picture. The Mets have bumped him off the roster and will now have five days to see if they can work out a trade. DFA limbo can last for a week, but the waiver process takes 48 hours.

The lefty has some track record as a viable big league starter, as he posted an ERA just over 4.00 with the Padres in 2018 and 2019, logging 130 innings or more in both of those seasons. He then struggled in 2020 and got flipped to the Mets as part of the Joe Musgrove trade in January of 2021. He required Tommy John surgery that summer and missed most of the 2021-2022 seasons. He returned to the mound last year and his results were fairly comparable to this year. He was mostly kept on optional assignment and posted a 4.74 ERA in Triple-A.

Perhaps a club in need of some starting depth will take a flier on Lucchesi since he can be optioned for the remainder of this year and can also be retained beyond this season via arbitration. But as mentioned, he will be out of options next year and will have less roster flexibility going forward. If he were to clear waivers, he could reject an outright assignment by virtue of having more than three years of service time. But since he has less than five years, electing free agency would mean walking away from the rest of his $1.65MM salary. In that instance, he would likely accept an outright assignment and stick with the Mets as non-roster depth.

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91 Comments

  1. HopefulTwinsFan

    10 months ago

    The stove is hot… er, lukewarm!

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  2. LFGMets (Metsin7) #ConsistentlyBannedBaseballExpert

    10 months ago

    I’m not a fan of Maton but anything to get Luchessi off this team is a win in my book

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    • horaceallen

      10 months ago

      Right. Because he was playing so much he was clearly the one dragging the team down.

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    • carlos15

      10 months ago

      Yea that sub 3 era in 9 starts last season was so unbearable.

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  3. Al Hirschen

    10 months ago

    No, not Joey bag of donuts. No

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  4. davidk1979

    10 months ago

    Rays couldn’t fix him that’s a red flag

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    • User 401527550

      10 months ago

      Better then what the Mets got in their current bullpen.

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      • ExileInLA 2

        10 months ago

        You’re both right!

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    • padam

      10 months ago

      This is true. For the Rays to shell out 6.5M for an RP and he is having trouble on that team tells me something is off. Evidence is the Rays moving him. They don’t normally shell out that kind of money on an RP to begin with.

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      • phenomenalajs

        10 months ago

        They’re not perfect. They couldn’t do much with Uwasawa either. I wonder if Lucchesi could be the PTBNL that goes to the Rays. Maybe they could have more success with someone like him.

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        • alwaysgo4two

          10 months ago

          The PTBNL cannot be on the 40 man roster, so probably not.

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        • phenomenalajs

          10 months ago

          He no longer is on the 40-man roster and I don’t believe the Rays would be obligated to put him on it immediately.

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    • CleaverGreene

      10 months ago

      The Rays haven’t fixed too many this year.

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    • Robrock30

      10 months ago

      David Klein is in the House!

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  5. This one belongs to the Reds

    10 months ago

    More Johnny Cash records on their way in a baseball deal.

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    • CO Guardening

      10 months ago

      Do they get to consider his classics or lesser known Cash albums? Maybe just Johnny Cash Christmas?

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      • AlBundysFanClubPresident

        10 months ago

        It’s actually just a compilation of terrible covers of “I walk the line” by such megastars as Kathy Griffin, Roseanne Barr, Kevin Hart and the original 4 members of the show Whose Line Is It Anyway?

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  6. Sunday Lasagna

    10 months ago

    21 career post season innings 2 ER including 6 postseason innings with 0 ER in 2023.

    Anyone else in the Mets bullpen with as good of a post season resume?

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    • NoShoW 2

      10 months ago

      That doesn’t matter since the Mets won’t be playing in the postseason.

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      • User 401527550

        10 months ago

        Yes probably wouldn’t place a bet on that.

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    • Travis’ Wood

      10 months ago

      Who gives a rip about someone’s postseason stats over 21 innings dude…. Beyond irrelevant I can’t believe you wasted time looking that up much less posting it

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      • mlb fan

        10 months ago

        “Who gives a rip…Beyond irrelevant…wasted time”…..Small sample size or not, a player’s postseason stats are certainly not “irrelevant” in any way. In the postseason players face the best teams, pitchers and players. There’s a reason that some people say “the postseason is where legends are made”. I’m not sure why you’re so angry, put off & indignant about someone citing a player’s postseason stats.

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        • BannedMarlinsFanBase

          10 months ago

          It would’ve been more acceptable for him to take a shot at the post by pointing out that postseason stats don’t mean anything when he’s going to a team that may not be in the playoffs.

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      • drasco036

        10 months ago

        21 post season innings is a pretty decent sample size for a reliever.
        To put things in perspective, Craig Kimbrel only has 30 innings, Trevor Hoffman only has 13.

        Crazy stat, Lee Smith had a total of 5.1 post season innings.

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    • JackStrawb

      10 months ago

      Players can turn it on and off in the postseason at will?

      We eagerly await the next issue of your newsletter, “Clutch Clutchiness.”

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      • drasco036

        10 months ago

        I love people who think clutch stats do not exist simply because Bill James said so but those same people still talk about “high leverage relievers” and “closers”.
        Yeah, some players can in fact “turn it on” during clutch/high pressure situations. It’s not a myth, it’s actually a scientific fact, how your body reacts to stress. Anyone who doesn’t believe in “clutch” performance must also not believe that stress/pressure/situation has an effect on heart rate and heart rate has an effect on focus and performance.
        Bill James may have studied stats but clearly didn’t understand kinesiology.

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  7. sad tormented neglected mariners fan

    10 months ago

    This sure isn’t the rays best season

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    • User 4014041831

      10 months ago

      They are doing better. They were under .500. Starting pitchers are coming back and they are making strategic trades based on their incredibly low team salary. Arozarena seems to be doing better. Getting a WC will be difficult but I expect they’ll be right in the mix till the last week
      I would be surprised if they don’t trade one more SP and get a good return

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      • Rays in the Bay

        10 months ago

        They are the definition of mediocrity. 6th worse run differential and hovering around . 500. The front office has given up as they should. The fact that this trade could literally be a bag of cash tells me all I need about the Rays Front Office. Another ‘under the covers’ signing that failed for the Rays. Sometimes the Rays try to outsmart themselves to the point of stupidity. The trades will continue for sure as Littell and Eflin will be next along with Randy.

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        • fljay73

          10 months ago

          Rays have had their fair share of blowout losses this season.

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        • Rays in the Bay

          10 months ago

          They are this year’s Marlins. Scrape by 1-run games and get blown out by actual good teams. Even if they make it to the playoffs, they will get destroyed, just like the Marlins last year.

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      • alwaysgo4two

        10 months ago

        If Cash continues to write in hitless wonders like Alex Jackson and Deluca every line-up and overplatooning leaving better hitters on the bench like B Lowe, J Lowe and Rortvedt, not going to get much better.

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        • fljay73

          10 months ago

          DeLuca has had many late innings RBIs. He should be a PH more than a regular.

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        • Rays in the Bay

          10 months ago

          Absolutely agree. Cash is a big part of this team’s failures. I don’t care that he’s “keeping them competitive” despite the salary restrictions. The team has either given up on him or he believes players will figure out their mistakes by themselves (they won’t)

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  8. User 355748524

    10 months ago

    His Cutter is still a great pitch (.179 BA, .205 SLG) and his Curveball is still efficient, albeit less so then last year (.189 BA, .405 SLG)

    It’s his Sweeper that has failed him the most this year (.308 BA, .615 SLG).

    Maybe at the behest of the Rays or by his own doing he started using his Slider again (last seen in 2021) to a pretty terrible result so far (only has thrown it 7% of the time this season but already gave up 2 home runs with it lol).

    A decent rebound candidate who was good just last season, Mets could certainly have done worse. They could have done better too, but this was a cheap option so why not.

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    • EasternLeagueVeteran

      10 months ago

      Thanks for the scouting report. Pretty detailed, and I hope Jeremy Hefner reads it.

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  9. tsc32

    10 months ago

    Is this the bozo that broke Josh Jung’s wrist and beaned like 2 other Rangers in the same inning?

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    • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

      10 months ago

      Maybe; he definitely has that sort of demeanor on the mound. He was somebody you just wanted to go slap, which is very fitting for an Astros player. Also so pale he looks like death warmed over. Also someone like Kyle Tucker who never ever ever smiles.

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    • myaccount2

      10 months ago

      Jung swung. It was his fault. The other 2 were HBP though.

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  10. Karensjer

    10 months ago

    I want to know how the Rays are getting guys to bite with their underperforming pitchers. Hopefully Armstrong is next.

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    • Rays in the Bay

      10 months ago

      Most likely the Mets wanted to sign him in FA but lost to the Rays. Then after he sucked the Mets didn’t have to give up anything much to acquire him. And 6.5 mil for the Mets is nothing.

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    • alwaysgo4two

      10 months ago

      I suppose that some teams think that they can fix the pitchers the Rays couldn’t.

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    • AlBundysFanClubPresident

      10 months ago

      As far as the deal with Milwaukee last week..Civale wasn’t injured, and the Crew needed somebody with an arm to cover some innings. I doubt they were salivating over the guy, it was simply a matter of him being available-both in trade and not on the IL.

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  11. alwaysgo4two

    10 months ago

    Mets fans, this won’t end well. There was so much more available pen help if they’d waited.

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    • User 401527550

      10 months ago

      I’m sure they aren’t done. They have a majority of a bullpen to replace.

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    • EasternLeagueVeteran

      10 months ago

      The Mets felt they could not wait until the deadline. Their pen has been a sore spot, but especially of late. They have for two months cycled thru Josh Walker, Tyler Jay, Matt Festa, Eric Orze, Cole Sulser, Ty Adcock, Danny Young and have gotten middling performances from Ottovino and Diekman and Smith.

      They are in the middle of a pack of wild-card thirsty teams and need to try to separate from the others now.

      It is a buy low, but he can’t be worse than the group they cycled through. If Maton finds his mojo from the past few years, it’s a steal.

      Lucchesi has likewise been middling in Syracuse, and I think they want to give regular turns in AAA to Vasil, Tidwell, Hamel, Butto and open up some room for Sproat to take a crack at AAA before long.

      A shift, yes. A roll of the dice, certainly.
      But I think it is better than sitting still while they are only two and a half back.

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      • BannedMarlinsFanBase

        10 months ago

        What can you give us for Tanner Scott. He’ll do his part for the Mets bullpen.

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        • CleaverGreene

          10 months ago

          Parada. Take it or leave it.

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        • BannedMarlinsFanBase

          10 months ago

          Come on! Some sucker…I mean…trade partner will give us more for Scott.

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    • andyklngnbrgr

      10 months ago

      Sucks that they’re limited to one trade.

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  12. Motor City Beach Bum

    10 months ago

    I’d like to see Detroit grab Lucchesi and let Chris Fetter have a go at fixing him. Drop Easton Lucas off the 40 man. He’s not that far removed from being a useful arm.

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    • stymeedone

      10 months ago

      Unfortunately, Maeda got paid and Chris I. won’t eat a contract. I could see the White Sox grabbing him to fill innings to get thru the year. Fedde and Crochet are supposedly available.

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      • Motor City Beach Bum

        10 months ago

        We can only hope Maeda has a 2nd half turnaround this year. Same boat for us with Lucchesi if they trade Flaherty. Manning has lost a gear this year don’t you find? I think Montero has passed him on the depth chart.

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  13. CardsFan57

    10 months ago

    So far everyone is just nibbling around the edges. I can’t wait for the real deals to begin.

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    • Canosucks

      10 months ago

      yeah, trade Sevy and Polar Beer to the Astros!

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  14. Appalachian_Outlaw

    10 months ago

    Could it be said the Rays passed the Maton to the Mets?

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  15. LongTimeFan1

    10 months ago

    I’m somewhat surprised Mets DFA’d Luchessi who is starting pitching depth. He hasn’t gotten much of a chance under Stearns so the writing’s been on the wall.

    But he has a competent 4.14 big league ERA, someone will claim him if not traded first. He’ll have a chance now for change of scenery and opportunity for restart. Before his lone Mets start this season he was optimistic he would succeed this season and prove himself worthy of big league starter payday should he have good season. He said he was working hard on his psychology and belief in himself. Getting sent back down to the minors probably was a blow to his confidence. Luchessi didn’t have much of a spring training and probably should not have been pegged to start when he did. He’s a good guy and hopefully will have another shot at the major league level this year.

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    • geofft

      10 months ago

      @ LongTimeFan1 From a baseball standpoint, Lucchesi really isn’t that depth anymore. He didn’t have a spring training because he reported to camp with diminished arm strength. When they finally used him in a game a month after camp started, his fastball velo was still sitting at just 88-89, 4 MPH lower than last year. Two months later in May, he was sitting at 90 and barely touching 91 a few times. Seven weeks since then, and he’s not throwing any faster. AAA teams have figured him out and he gets shelled more often than he pitches well.
      Administratively, he is just 59 days shy of 5 years MLB service time. Reaching that would give him the right to refuse minor league assignments. Not reaching it might put the Mets in the crosshairs of a union grievance over service time manipulation.

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      • EasternLeagueVeteran

        10 months ago

        There is no way this year he deserved 59 more days on a major league active roster.

        He might be deserving of another big league shot, but you gave every reason why it shouldn’t be this year.

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        • geofft

          10 months ago

          @ EasterLeagueVeteran
          You’re certainly right – he hasn’t deserved it yet. But that doesn’t mean the union wouldn’t file anyway. And what if the Mets fall out of the race and deal off Sevy, Manaea, and Quintana. Can they field a rotation without Lucchesi? Yes, for the moment. But that would include Megill who failed all of last year, and twice more this season. Giving him another shot while Lucchesi rots in AAA is enough for the union to file. And what happens when Scott reaches his innings limit? Can they find 5 starters without Lucchesi? Not right now. At the very least, its questionable enough for the union to file.

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        • EasternLeagueVeteran

          10 months ago

          @geofft The Mets would not trade all three off unless they went into a tail spin following the All-Star break.
          One of the three, maybe. Two if all was lost. But not all three. So the rotation would be Senga-Peterson-Butto-Megill-Scott ( or not) and the other three. Not happy with Megill who cannot pitch consistently one start to the next. But maybe he needs to go to the pen. Can’t feel as shaky as Diekman nor Ottovino. Maybe Maton returns to form, or maybe he doesn’t.
          I don’t think the starters at AAA (Hamel, Vasil, Tidwell) are ready for prime time much less a wild card race, but you never know. If the Mets are out of it, you could see one up by years end.

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        • geofft

          10 months ago

          @ EasternLV
          First, a tailspin is not out of the question for this team. Second, I don’t know if it takes a full-blown tailspin for them to fall out of the race before the deadline.
          This is all academic, since the Mets have DFA’d Lucchesi, anyway. That said, maybe I didn’t make my point well. That point is that the union does not need a definitive case in order to file a grievance. They just need a hint or a theory of impropriety. And the mere fact that you’d run Megill out there yet again while leaving Lucchesi in the minors, even after there is noting to play for is enough for them to challenge why Lucch was at least given a chance to pitch this year.

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        • LongTimeFan1

          10 months ago

          Geofft,

          I doubt the Union files a grievance for J.L. It’s not like he was having good season in AAA, although he didn’t have one last season either but performed well in the majors.

          I think someone will claim him or trade for him as low risk depth piece. If not, it’s hard to imagine he gives up 1.6 mil in guaranteed salary to become free agent.

          I was just somewhat surprised Mets DA’d him over other other 40-man 4-A relief pitching options who haven’t done as much in their big league careers. But I also shouldn’t be surprised because they also have pool of AAA starting pitching prospect depth they haven’t had in long time. In an emergency they’re available for call up but that locks the Mets into 40-man roster spot long term whether they intended on that for this season or not.

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    • JackStrawb

      10 months ago

      Looch’s FIP in his 4-0 year was 4.12, and his milb ERAs are well over 4.00.

      It’s not like he’s had actual success since 2019. He doesn’t K anyone, and he’s turning 32. The Mets will get a very little something for him and move on. Being #12 in the multiyear depth chart isn’t a good place to be.

      Welcome to Oakland, Joey.

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  16. 3 finger split

    10 months ago

    If Lucchesi still has that 100 moving parts delivery, I don’t know who could fix that and when you think of pitchers that have a smooth delivery …Lucchesi isn’t one of them

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  17. Rational_Mets_Fan

    10 months ago

    Stearns has been throwing relievers at the wall to see who would stick. He’s found some effective ones but the sad reality is they’re overworked. During the 10 game stretch Diaz was suspended they went 5-5 but had 3 extra inning games on top of a mediocre SP staff that doesn’t go late enough in games. The SPs are among the lowest in the league in quality starts and no decisions. They’ve played musical chairs with all this extra work. Hopefully Maton is on the upswing and a week off for the bullpen will be helpful. The broadcast said 6 man rotation once Senga comes back so they better be going deeper.

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    • EasternLeagueVeteran

      10 months ago

      Six-man rotation gives Senga and Scott innings limits breaks. Maybe it keeps them all fresher and healthier later in the year.

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  18. fljay73

    10 months ago

    Smart move by the Rays. He wasn’t effective as a high inning reliever this season. Save money & move on.

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  19. holecamels35

    10 months ago

    I hope the next person to get traded is Phil Magroin.

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  20. Logjammer D"Baggagecling

    10 months ago

    Isn’t there an umpire with the same name? Did the Mets trade an umpire for Phil Maton?

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  21. vtadave

    10 months ago

    lolmets

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  22. Motown is My Town

    10 months ago

    Won’t help as the Mets are their own worst enemy…explain how they refuse to start JD Martinez two day games in a row. And you wonder why they suck so bad!

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    • User 401527550

      10 months ago

      What are you talking about? He had a sore ankle. Let’s go with they refused to let him play though. Some fans can really be out there.

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      • Old York

        10 months ago

        @Mets6986??

        Should be out there playing, regardless, just like the good ol’days when you either played or were not paid.

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        • LongTimeFan1

          10 months ago

          @old York – The good ole days of horse and buggy, road trips via locomotives, skinny shortstops batting .150, and pitchers throwing 400 innings a season.

          Does your idea of the good ole days also include only white folks in MLB?

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      • Motown is My Town

        10 months ago

        And why are the Mets sitting Martinez today? Ankle still sore or do they just not want to win? They mange JD like the Yankees manger Stanton…they won’t let them play more than 1 game in a row…it’s unbelievable

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  23. bjhaas1977

    10 months ago

    Wandy just got charged!

    Reply
    • Johnny Vander Meer

      10 months ago

      I kinda wish the comments were open on that thread because one of those idiots would roll in there and talk about how Trevor is waiting and he could help.

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  24. YourDreamGM

    10 months ago

    A+ Salary dump. Maton can be better but well done Rays.

    Reply
  25. padrepapi

    10 months ago

    The list of young SP’s to be dealt by Preller that ended up being released grows:

    Joey Lucchesi
    Luis Patino
    Cal Quantrill
    Eric Lauer
    Matt Wisler
    Logan Allen
    Joe Ross

    Only Zach Eflin and soon to be Max Fried will have made it to free agency without being released.

    We’ll have to see where a bunch others end up: Robert Gasser, Drew Thorpe, Jairo Irate, Mackenzie Gore, etc.

    His record dealing future late inning bullpen pieces is far less impressive.

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    • Windowpane

      10 months ago

      Quantrill was traded, not released by Cleveland.

      Reply
      • AlBundysFanClubPresident

        10 months ago

        And not to pile on, but didn’t Lauer just become a free agent, not get released? I’m thinking of his time with the Brewers, so maybe I missed something since then..?

        Reply
  26. DarrenDreifortsContract

    10 months ago

    The Mets are now the favorites to win it all.

    Reply
  27. jvent

    10 months ago

    PTBNL should be McNeil lol, the Mets can still deal some of our players and still be in on the Wild Card. I think that they should still deal Alonso, just not sure if they’re going to resign him, why not try Alonso, Quintana and either McNeil or Marte to Seattle for 1 of their SP’s (not Castillo) and Ty France. Than trade Baty, Tidwell and a SS prospect to CWS for Crochet. That’ll give the Mets France at 1b and 2 SP’s now and the future.

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    • LongTimeFan1

      10 months ago

      @jvent.

      ‘Cmon, a deal has to make sense for both sides and consider short and long tern needs and goals.

      PTBNL is typically from an agreed list of young players, minor leaguers the other team chooses from. They did salary dump on Maton… Why would they then add an aging, struggling vet’s multi year contract in McNeil when they have history of building through youth?

      I can see the Mets trading McNeil and Baty. Maybe Quintana. Doubtful they trade Alonso.

      Ty France makes zero sense for the Mets.

      An ailing, aging Marte makes no sense for Seattle..

      Is Stearns willing to trade one of the best young arms in the system in Tidewell? He talks about keeping high end prospects, not trading them.

      This 2024 Mets squad has tons of chemistry which in part fuels them. Break up the team too much by trading too many, could be their downfall. Why would Seattle trade one of their controllable starting pitchers for rentals? When are they ever all in? And who would that be that makes the Mets better this year and at least next year to trade their clean up hitter while making a postseason run this season?

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  28. Windowpane

    10 months ago

    70+ comments about fringe guys. Geez.

    Reply
  29. Non Roster Invitee

    10 months ago

    Ray’s should trade Wander.

    Reply
    • AlBundysFanClubPresident

      10 months ago

      Nah, just move him to the Pen.

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      • EasternLeagueVeteran

        10 months ago

        Yeah! Looks like Wander will be playing winter ball and chain.

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    • LongTimeFan1

      10 months ago

      @Non Roster Invitee

      ,Trade him? You think he’s ever gonna play in the majors and the states again? Visa denied. Perhaps many years in prison. And even if let in, who would want him and the controversy, the headache? MLB punishment likely and extensive.

      Wander is such an idiot, a fool, and if proven guilty, a sexual predator of the young.teen. Just terrible. It appears he’s ruined his career, his life, his finances, and more importantly, untold damage onto this 14 year old girl who also appears to have been utterly betrayed by her mother.

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  30. Non Roster Invitee

    10 months ago

    San Quentin needs a shortstop.

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