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GM David Forst: Athletics Aim To Raise Payroll, Retain Coaching Staff

By Mark Polishuk | October 5, 2024 at 9:36am CDT

While the Athletics’ move from Oakland to Sacramento will naturally dominate the headlines this season, general manager David Forst will have his hands full just with the normal trappings of the baseball offseason.  Forst told reporters (including radio broadcaster Jessica Kleinschmidt and the San Francisco Chronicle’s Susan Slusser) that the team plans to spend more on payroll than it did in 2024, and that the A’s are hopeful of bringing back the entire coaching staff for their first season in Sacramento.

As per RosterResource, the A’s spent roughly $63.1MM on payroll last season, easily the lowest in baseball.  Forst’s front office also has an entirely clean payroll slate heading into 2025, as the A’s don’t have a single dollar officially committed to any player for the coming season.  The Athletics have five impending free agents, five players eligible for salary arbitration (to the tune of a projected $13.8MM if all are tendered contracts), and the rest of the roster is still in their pre-arb years.

In theory, this gives Forst some flexibility in upgrading a team that showed some promise last season.  While the A’s were only 69-93, this at least represented a sizeable improvement from the club’s 112-loss performance in 2023.  Moreover, the Athletics seemed to turn a corner around midseason, as they were 39-37 from July 1 onward.  Between slugger Brent Rooker, flame-throwing closer Mason Miller, breakout outfielder Lawrence Butler, and others, the Athletics’ latest rebuild has already developed some interesting pieces of a new core.  Both Rooker and Zack Gelof are quoted in Slusser’s piece as having an eye towards contending as early as next season.

Of course, given the Athletics’ usual reluctance to spend, we should probably wait and see if owner John Fisher will indeed approve even a modest payroll increase.  This winter in particular carries the X-factor of how the Athletics’ revenues will be impacted by the move to Sacramento’s Sutter Health Park, a Triple-A stadium (home of the Giants’ top minor league affiliate) with a total capacity of just over 14,000.  As Slusser notes, there are still plenty of details about the move that team officials themselves aren’t yet certain.  Forst believed Sutter Health Park would continue to have an artificial playing surface during the Athletics’ tenure, though no renovation work has started on the field itself in preparation for 2025.

The other challenge facing Forst this offseason is how exactly he’ll be able to lure desirable players to join the A’s, even if more money is available to spend.  “We do have to sell it, and I’d be lying if I told you I knew what the answers will be on the other side,” Forst said.  While the younger talent on the roster might be attractive to free agents under normal circumstances, the fact remains that many players might not have interest in joining a franchise that will be spending at least its next three seasons in a minor league ballpark.  It seems likely that the A’s will again be limited to signing players to one-year contracts, with an eye towards flipping those players at the trade deadline if the team isn’t in contention.

As for the coaching staff, some turnover might develop if other teams step forward with job offers or promotions for any A’s coaches.  Slusser also suggests that the Athletics might not stand in the way if rival clubs had interest in manager Mark Kotsay, which would be an interesting wrinkle to both the team’s rebuilding plans and to any possible managerial vacancies around the league.

Kotsay is only 179-307 over three seasons as the Athletics’ skipper, though the poor record doesn’t fairly access his managerial ability given how little Kotsay has had to work with on a rebuilding roster, not to mention the added tumult of the franchise’s planned move.  Kotsay is under contract just through the 2025 season, and it is perhaps worth noting that the A’s let previous manager Bob Melvin go to the Padres when Melvin also had a year remaining on his contract.

“As far as the potential for losing [Kotsay], those things are out of my control right now,” Forst said.  “He absolutely deserves to be considered by anyone who has a managerial opening, but he’s under contract here and wants to be here. And there’s no one I would rather have managing this team.”

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  1. Melchez17

    8 months ago

    Raise payroll? Minimum wage was raised in California. They had to.

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    • 82rickey130

      8 months ago

      LOL

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  2. Lets Go DBacks

    8 months ago

    With an average attendance of 11,000 it shouldn’t be such a problem to make a move to a stadium of 13,000 but if they wish to start successfully once they move to Las Vegas, they should start working towards a competitive team now and increase spending, yes. You can’t move to Las Vegas, the city of entertainment, and field an AAAA team.

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      8 months ago

      That depends on whether Fisher wants to bridge an identity of the former Oakland A’s over to Las Vegas. The first Las Vegas team will stand to make very good revenue due its initial buzz even with an AAAA team.

      I suppose playing in Sacremento is better for fringe players contemplating playing in Japan and S. Korea without having to learn a new culture and language. If the goal is to resemble a MLB team, then they should raise payroll to sign such players. Being competitive is a whole another conversation.

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    • LLGiants64

      8 months ago

      I agree, but they are going to. By 2030, Las Vegas will hate the A’s ownership.

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      • desertdan

        8 months ago

        @LLGiants- Vegas resident here. Most of us are leery of Fisher already. There isn’t even a finalized plan of financing the stadium

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        • 82rickey130

          8 months ago

          Settle down for the long haul (and keep your hand on your wallet) cuz these guys have NO CLUE how to actually get things done

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        • astros_fan_84

          8 months ago

          Fisher is a genius as wringing as much as possible from his fans.

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      • Rsox

        8 months ago

        They already do

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    • Blackpink in the area

      8 months ago

      Most teams around the league inflate their ticket sales numbers. Many teams would be fine with a seating capacity of 14k.

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      • rememberthecoop

        8 months ago

        How do you know that? I’m not necessarily doubting you, just would like a source.

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        • Blackpink in the area

          8 months ago

          Finding a source would be difficult. I am a Cardinals fan routinely they announce 30k tickets sold and there is maybe 10k in the stands. They sell tickets to ticket brokers right before the game and call them sales eventhough the brokers always end up with extras.

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  3. SweetBabyRayKingsThickThighs

    8 months ago

    Buy some back-end starters and relief help that can be flipped. Take a chance on that Japanese pitcher looking to come over stateside.

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    • LLGiants64

      8 months ago

      What professional baseball player with other options would sign with the A’s?

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      • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

        8 months ago

        That Japanese pitcher is the next shintaro fujinami

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  4. This one belongs to the Reds

    8 months ago

    From the outside looking in, they couldn’t really go any lower….

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    • Acoss1331

      8 months ago

      I’m sure Fisher did his best to haggle for some sandlot in the Bay area from the local kids.

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  5. Yankee Clipper

    8 months ago

    I love how they can’t even commit to actually raising payroll, despite how near impossible it is to stay the same – “Aim to raise payroll…”, “plans to spend.”

    I wouldn’t wish this type of management on our biggest nemeses.

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    • LordD99

      8 months ago

      Spend one more dollar than last year and they’ve raised payroll!

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      • shaft

        8 months ago

        The other 29 teams tell their fans the same thing year after year…We’re raising payroll! Politicians are especially good at this. Turning stats into BS

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    • 82rickey130

      8 months ago

      well said

      Reply
  6. Put John Sterling in Sarco Pod ASAP

    8 months ago

    Ive wished death on better people. And better people have wished death on me.

    I have refined that hate into strength. The strength to keep the baseball team I own in its rightful place.

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  7. PronounsRUS

    8 months ago

    Real fans would uproot themselves and move to Vegas instead of just complaining.

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    • Paleobros

      8 months ago

      I’m assuming you’re being funny, but just in case, people love a team because they love their city, and that team represents that city.

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      • PronounsRUS

        8 months ago

        It’s not a coincidence every sports team has left that city. Those people there don’t love anything except playing the victim

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        • 82rickey130

          8 months ago

          Have u ever ever to an a’s game? Or even to Oakland itself?

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    • unpaidobserver

      8 months ago

      …And wait three years.

      Reply
  8. JayRyder

    8 months ago

    In other news – The Sacramento A’s are planning a to play a month of the season in Antarctica next year. Stay Tuned. ! Teams to be announced.

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    • letitbelowenstein

      8 months ago

      Jay, there’s an idea! Barnstorming. They can travel the country, playing their ‘home’ games in places like Buffalo, Hartford, Eugene, Provo and Cheyenne.

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      • Put John Sterling in Sarco Pod ASAP

        8 months ago

        Cheyenne during Frontier Days, call them the Frontier As. Then make it more realistic by giving John Fisher dysentery.

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        • JayRyder

          8 months ago

          Just don’t give the players guns, Fisher be warned !!!

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  9. Bart Harley Jarvis

    8 months ago

    I’m not sure anyone is complaining, as much as they’re just enjoying taking a well deserved shat on John Fisher.

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    • astros_fan_84

      8 months ago

      As an Astros fan, I feel sorry for A’s fans and Angels fans too, but I’m grateful for Fisher and Arte Moreno. The AL West is much easier to win when two of the teams have no desire or ability to win.

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  10. CarolinaCubsandKush

    8 months ago

    Still one of the most embarrassing situations in MLB right now. Probably most embarrassing. Good luck luring any decent names to a minor league park.

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    • Bart Harley Jarvis

      8 months ago

      I most definitely do not claim to be a decent name, but I’ll gladly travel from Palo Alto to Sacramento to watch the A’s. It’ll be fun to watch the Phillies play the A’s in a MILB park.

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  11. Nevrfolow

    8 months ago

    There must be an increase in revenue sharing to where they’re obligated to spend more.

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    • holecamels35

      8 months ago

      Wouldn’t help a ton if they spend it on more garbage like Alex Wood and Stripling who are no better than a random minor league arm. They should try to sign a few better pitchers and maybe work on long term deals for Rooker, Bleday, and Langeliers.

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  12. inkstainedscribe

    8 months ago

    I don’t know what the Sacramento ballpark looks like, but I can say firsthand the Durham Bulls Athletic Park provides a better fan environment than the Oakland Mausoleum. The player facilities will have to be upgraded, of course.

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    • VicM

      8 months ago

      Have fun watching in Sac when it’s over 100 degrees and no shade.

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    • 82rickey130

      8 months ago

      Ever been there?

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  13. FOmeOLS

    8 months ago

    Has anybody thought about how much fun that stadium will be? It’s “old-school” in the best possible way.: small, intimate, not a bad seat in the house, a maximum of 14,000 people, you could probably introduce yourself to everyone there. Very little of the massive dome mausoleum stadiums that most teams have. No stupid giant TV screens, no dot race.
    I am looking forward to attending a couple of games there next summer even though I live several states away.
    Terrible thing to do to the Oakland Faithful, though…

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    • PronounsRUS

      8 months ago

      A foul ball could kill someone.

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      • Put John Sterling in Sarco Pod ASAP

        8 months ago

        That’s a good point. Someone should get John Fisher front row seats! Maybe put a very strong magnet in his hat and another one on the ball.

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      • letitbelowenstein

        8 months ago

        Won’t get killed by a foul ball if they put their phones back in their pockets and watch the game.

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    • LordBanana

      8 months ago

      Not a bad seat in the house just means they have no cheap seats. The total amount of “good” seats is no more than any other real stadium, you just lose out on the atmosphere of having thousands of screaming fans. Which I guess the As didn’t have already

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    • kahnkobra

      8 months ago

      that’s a good way to look at it

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    • 82rickey130

      8 months ago

      its the heat that will be a problem

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      • 82rickey130

        8 months ago

        and its such an obvious problem that there is NO EXCUSE for MLB (and especially the MLBPA) not to have demanded an more detailed plan and analysis of just how how it can get

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  14. ohyeadam

    8 months ago

    You can only go up when you’re at rock bottom. 5 players to replace. 3 bounce backs averaging ~$5m and a bunch of AAAA dreamers for the other two

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  15. EM41

    8 months ago

    Fisher will give A’s players two free pairs of Levi jeans to attract free agents

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    • Acoss1331

      8 months ago

      Fisher will give all players free access to the vending machines, that’ll lure players to the team!

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    • kahnkobra

      8 months ago

      Gap jeans

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  16. holecamels35

    8 months ago

    I wouldn’t be surprised if veterans would be excited to play there, seems like a fun team. A few good young guys, zero/low pressure, cool coach, can think of a lot worse ways to work.

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    • Acoss1331

      8 months ago

      Better situation than the White Sox…

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  17. rockingryan

    8 months ago

    As an A’s fan they are the embarrassment of baseball at least for 3 more years. Who outside of guys who can’t play for other teams would want to play for them?

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  18. Dranas

    8 months ago

    FJF4E

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  19. DonOsbourne

    8 months ago

    Soto to the A’s. Fisher’s going to prove how spiteful he can be by spending huge the first year out of Oakland.

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    • Acoss1331

      8 months ago

      Fisher is going to offer Soto an offer the Yankees won’t be able to top!

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  20. Rsox

    8 months ago

    The A’s went 39-37 from July 1st to the end of the season including playing .500 ball after the All-Star break. They could very well be a fringe Wild Card team next season but they need to make similar moves as the Royals did last winter. Guys like Wacha, Lugo and Renfroe weren’t big sexy names but look at the difference they made in KC

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  21. pjmcnu

    8 months ago

    oh, gee thanks! A team with a $62M payroll saying they’ll let it go up. So maybe they’ll sign 1 non-scrap heap FA? 3/$30M? STFU. Go to Sacramento and rot. My guess is ownership points to the small stadium and actually cuts payroll. Then rolls around in competitive balance money like Scrooge McDuck.

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  22. oscar gamble

    8 months ago

    How can a team have zero dollars committed to 2025? I don’t think I’ve ever read an article that says a team had zero dollars committed to the next season.

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  23. Atloriolesfan

    8 months ago

    The Orioles are very close to zero, also, because “dollars committed” excludes arbs estimates, team options and players not yet eligible for arbs. The A’s have no one and the Os have 2 on guaranteed contracts (Eflin and Felix Bautista, totalling $19m). 15 Orioles are arb eligible and nearly all will be tendered, OAK has no one on a guaranteed contract and 5 arbs.

    Every other team has $20m or more committed, but in many cases it’s simply bad contracts (e.g. Baez for DET).

    The As are simply starting from a base of zero

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  24. Atloriolesfan

    8 months ago

    That payroll number included $30m for Wood, Stripling and Diaz and another $10m or so for other guys that are gone.

    They’re starting at zero (but call it 30m with obvious arbs). They could comfortably sign $40m worth of non-scrapheap Ps with some potential value on the field and potential deadline flips regardless. Basically guys like Stripling and Wood that could actually deliver value. A combo like Trevor Williams, Buehler, Cortes and/or Lance Lynn might actually be good enough to get them over .500.

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