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Cubs Expected To Pursue Help Near Top Of Rotation, Back Of Bullpen

By Steve Adams | November 5, 2024 at 11:59pm CDT

The Cubs are expected to be aggressive in their search for upgrades near the top of the rotation and in their late-inning relief corps, reports Patrick Mooney of The Athletic. Chicago was already expected to be in the market for catching upgrades this winter.

Improvements on the pitching staff have long stood as a fairly logical pursuit for the Chicago front office. The lineup was largely set even before Cody Bellinger passed on his opt-out opportunity. The Cubs have Michael Busch at first base, Nico Hoerner at second, Dansby Swanson at short and Isaac Paredes at the hot corner. The outfield/DH mix contains Ian Happ, Pete Crow-Armstrong, Seiya Suzuki and now Bellinger. Each of Happ, Suzuki and Swanson have no-trade provisions.

Hoerner was speculated by many — MLBTR included — to be a possible trade candidate as a result of this inflexibility on the trade front, but his recent forearm surgery makes a deal quite unlikely. The Cubs aren’t likely to add a long-term replacement.  Mooney suggests that top prospect Matt Shaw or an in-house alternative like James Triantos could bridge that gap. Hoyer told Mooney and others at the ongoing GM Meetings that there’s no timeline for Hoerner’s return just yet, but the team expects a “full recovery.” On paper, there’s a path to moving Bellinger and the remaining two years on his contract, but to this point there’s been no indication the Cubs will consider that this winter.

As such, an upgrade behind the plate seems like the clearest path to bolstering the lineup, while an upgrade on the pitching side of things is the most obvious path to improving the club overall. As it stands, the Cubs could be as much as $50MM shy of their 2024 payroll levels — a number that could push closer to $60MM if they opt to further subtract some arbitration-eligible players via non-tender or trade. Trey Wingenter, Julian Merryweather, Adbert Alzolay, Patrick Wisdom and Nick Madrigal are among the options who fit that billing after several arb-eligible Cubs were already cut loose yesterday.

That leaves the Cubs with significant financial firepower at their disposal, assuming ownership authorizes a payroll at least in line with last year’s rough $235MM mark (per RosterResource). President of baseball operations Jed Hoyer (or perhaps owner Tom Ricketts) has typically preferred not to invest money in lengthy deals for relievers. The last multi-year deal for any reliever from the Cubs was in 2019 when they signed Craig Kimbrel to a three-year, $43MM pact. If that trend holds up, it’ll only point all the more significantly toward a potential splash in the deep end of the free agent pool for starting pitchers.

As it stands, the Cubs have Shota Imanaga, Justin Steele, Jameson Taillon and likely Javier Assad locked into starting spots. Candidates for the fifth spot in the rotation include Ben Brown, Jordan Wicks, Hayden Wesneski, Caleb Kilian and top prospect Cade Horton. All have minor league options remaining, and any of the bunch could end up a bullpen option. Brown and particularly Wesneski both got looks in relief last year. Assad has had success as a reliever in 2023.

The top end of the free-agent pool includes Corbin Burnes, Blake Snell, Max Fried and Jack Flaherty. All four were predicted for nine-figure guarantees on MLBTR’s Top 50 Free Agent rankings. Of the four, both Burnes and Fried received and will reject a qualifying offer. Ricketts confirmed in October that the Cubs narrowly crossed the luxury tax threshold in 2024, meaning they’d need to surrender their second- and fifth-highest selections in the 2025 draft as well as $1MM of space from their 2025 international bonus pool in order to sign Burnes, Fried, Sean Manaea, Luis Severino or any of the free agents who received a qualifying offer. (It’d have been “only” their second-highest pick and $500K of pool space had they successfully dipped under the line.) The qualifying offer historically hasn’t been a dealbreaker for the Hoyer-led Cubs. They signed Swanson after he rejected the Braves’ QO in the 2022-23 offseason.

And, to be clear, the mere fact that the Cubs haven’t given out a multi-year deal to a reliever under Hoyer doesn’t mean that they won’t consider doing so this winter. Prior to last offseason, the Cubs had typically spent $5MM or less on free-agent relief pitchers. They nearly doubled that sum when signing Hector Neris. The deal didn’t work out, of course, but Hoyer has already begun to deviate a bit from the bargain-bin approach to building out a bullpen. That’s a far cry from declaring they’re in in top relievers like Tanner Scott, Jeff Hoffman, Carlos Estevez and others, but a step up in their aggression toward pursuing relief help shouldn’t be ruled out.

If the Cubs are indeed intent on sticking to the one-year bucket in free agency, there’s no shortage of older but still high-quality leverage options from which to choose. Each of Kirby Yates, Kenley Jansen, Blake Treinen and old friend David Robertson is a free agent this winter. They’ll all pitch next year at 37 or older, making them likely one-year deal candidates. Any of the bunch could (and likely will) command an eight-figure salary, but the Cubs already came close to that level in signing Neris and could be further emboldened to pursue a solidified ninth-inning option after last year’s bullpen again proved shaky, tying for eighth in the majors with 26 blown saves.

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  1. bigjonliljon

    7 months ago

    The real and largest mistake that Jed made last year that irks me the most, was being over the cap by $300 K. Poor management and stupid. And unnecessary. Such a waste.

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    • Fever Pitch Guy

      7 months ago

      big – You have bad information, the Cubs were NOT over the cap last year.

      Their CBT payroll was $230M and the threshold was $233M.

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      • jawinks

        7 months ago

        Yes last I read, the Cubs were only going to go over if Cody opted out. That would require the Cubs to pay him $5M which would put us over the tax threshold. Maybe Ricketts was expecting Bellinger to opt out when he made those comments, but from the math I’m seeing they did not cross the threshold.

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      • realist101

        7 months ago

        Fever – can you kindly provide a link for that?

        All I can find by Googling are (1) Ricketts saying in October that the Cubs were over CBT threshold this year and (2) Cot’s estimates currently showing the Cubs about $2.8 million over for 2024. The latter include Bellinger’s decision not to opt out.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          7 months ago

          realist – The original poster wrote “last year”, not “last season” therefore he was referring to 2023.

          Spotrac is the source, I have found them to be more accurate than RR.

          spotrac.com/mlb/chicago-cubs/overview/_/year/2023/…

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        • realist101

          7 months ago

          Fever – OP’s use of the term last year is confusing, but he’s clearly referring to this reporting by the Tribune that the Cubs were over the 2024 CBT by a minimal amount. chicagotribune.com/2024/10/11/chicago-cubs-tom-ric…

          We can all agree that the Cubs didn’t pay CBT in 2023. Later in the off-season there’s always eventually reporting on payers/amounts once MLB finalizes the calculation. mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/eight-teams-combine-for…

          I looked at Cot’s, not Roster Resource, for the 2024 estimate. Here’s the Cot’s spreadsheet – docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JDKxXR8y0NfQbQZRL9…

          Cot’s and Spotrac do currently disagree on 2024 CBT for the Cubs: $2.8 million over vs. $2.2 million under. We’ll see which one ends up being correct.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          7 months ago

          real – Not sure how the OP could make such a huge blunder by referring to a season that ended just a week ago as “last year” but whatever ….. not gonna try to figure out his brain. LOL!!

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    • Damn Yankee$

      7 months ago

      Burnes and Williams, book it.

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      • User 3222006999

        7 months ago

        So Jed is at the GM meetings. So where’s his deaf mute GM? In Chicago using a squeegee to get the rain off Ricketts driveway? Wouldn’t you think the supposed GM would be, How do I put this, At the GM meetings and saying something? Anybody who doubts who the GM of this team is take notice.

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        • Dumpster Divin Theo

          7 months ago

          Semantics, isn’t the head of baseball ops or whatever Jeds title is effectively the GM? Not dissimilar to when Theo was the skipper and Jed was hit little buddy

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        • Drasco0366

          7 months ago

          Hoyer is Mikes spirit animal, only giving out mediocre deals to good, not great players yet he complains about him endlessly because the Cubs are not good enough.
          It’s great, it’s like seeing a guy argue with himself.
          “Cubs need to play the kids”-Cubs played 4-pre-arbitration players everyday (until Morel was traded) and had two additional home grown players playing everyday. They also filled two rotation slots with home grown players (Steele and Assad) and worked in a third until injuries bit them hard. Cubs use a very home grown bullpen but he complains non-stop about them not being good enough.
          Mike hates long term contracts for big name players, complains about Happ, Suzuki and Bellinger who are all signed to smaller, shorter contracts. It’s hilarious. Play the kids! No! Not those kids! Other kids!

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        • User 3222006999

          7 months ago

          Hoyer is THE WORST negotiator of contracts I’ve ever seen. He is horrible at it. I’d rather he just said pass and went on his way. His team has no game plan, No fiscal plan and no rudder. It’s just throw crap at the wall and see what happens. I’m tired of it. Wonder why nobody else is? Well that’s most Cub fans. All optimism, No basis in reality. Well I’m the exception, Not the rule. I want what’s best for the team and with what they have now they should be duking it out with the Dodgers, Not hiding in the corner with the Pirates and Reds which is where they’ll be with Hoyer running it Extension? You gotta be kiddin me.

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        • Drasco0366

          7 months ago

          Did you literally just say that the Cubs should be duking it out with the Dodgers when earlier you said 5/160 was out of your comfort level? Thatst hilarious.

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        • realist101

          7 months ago

          @unclemike –
          Teams don’t send just 1 person to the GM meetings.

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        • Ogie Oglethorpe

          7 months ago

          Hey DDT, please tell us about the White Tox’s Org. Chart and how well it worked during yourfabulous 41 win season.

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        • User 3222006999

          7 months ago

          Hey realist101- Do the other teams GM’s sit there like a toad on a lily pad and catch flies? Because that’s what Hawkins does. No wait, He probably does less than that.

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        • Barstool Rodeo

          7 months ago

          @unclemike just because Hoyer fields questions doesn’t mean Carter Hawkins isn’t at the GM meetings. Theo addressed the media countless times over then GM Hoyer when the two called the FO shots.

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      • CFS77

        7 months ago

        Williams has a year of control attached. Brewers would want payback for Craig moving south. It would start with Shaw just to stick it to the Cubs.

        I don’t see a deal between the two as they have a history going on.

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        • User 3222006999

          7 months ago

          The Cubs are not getting Herget or Williams just because of who they play for. It’s not happening unless a 3rd team is involved. And Shaw’s probably not going anywhere, Much less for a reliever with one year left on his deal. Stop talking fluent moron.

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        • Drasco0366

          7 months ago

          Oh Mike’s in rare form tonight! So angry! How many drinks ya in Mikey?

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        • User 3222006999

          7 months ago

          I don’t smoke or drink. And yeah the Cubs have everything the Dodgers have. Except a POBO. The Dodgers have Andrew Friedmann.

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        • User 3222006999

          7 months ago

          I also shudder to think what Hoyer is capable of this off season. Having been revolted by his previous work.. I sure hope he doesn’t have any of your ideas. But I’m probably wrong. He always does the wrong thing.

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        • Drasco0366

          7 months ago

          You should probably start then. Maybe hit up some therapy as well

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        • Dumpster Divin Theo

          7 months ago

          He is quiet fluent: eloquent, loquacious, wordy, you could say he has the gift of gab

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    • JoeBrady

      7 months ago

      Assuming that to be the case, that’s a bad oversight. You should be under by $1 or over by whatever the owner can afford.

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  2. Jeremy320

    7 months ago

    Believe it when I see it. Wouldn’t surprise me if they are just trying to drive up the bidding.

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  3. Rsox

    7 months ago

    Wisdom says non-tender Patrick and Madrigal for sure, maybe keep Merryweather as he was pretty good for them a couple of seasons ago

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    • Acoss1331

      7 months ago

      Hoyer is going to dumpster dive, I think most Cubs fans have accepted that. That being said, I have no idea what he’ll do. He could go big and sign someone like Corbin Burnes, or go in the complete opposite direction and sign someone like Frankie Montas. With Bellinger not opting out, he has less money to work with.

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      • Fever Pitch Guy

        7 months ago

        Acoss – I read in the comments here somewhere that the Cubs insisted they wouldn’t sign any external free agents this offseason.

        Safe to say that was more erroneous BS again? LOL

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        • Acoss1331

          7 months ago

          Fever,

          Lol no, Hoyer is definitely signing agents, there are areas of need. Now even more so straight from the horse’s mouth! I have zero expectations, the Brewers continuously stomp on my hopes to have the Cubs do well lol

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        • User 3222006999

          7 months ago

          The only question is how much will he spend. I don’t want Burnes for 200 million, Soto for 600 million or Alonso for any amount. But Tanner Scott, d’Arnaud maybe, Carson Kelley might be worth a shot. I’d rather take a flyer on Buehler if I’m signing a guy that’s hurt over Fried because he’ll probably be cheaper, And I hope Hoyer is smart enopugh to leave 20 million for the deadline because it could make the difference. Trust the Farm for once Jed, Don’t be stupid again. Unless he can open up more money by losing Bellinger, But I have doubts.

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        • Drasco0366

          7 months ago

          Cubs usually leave 7-10 million in space at the deadline and typically that is more than enough.

          I think the Cubs should go all in on Snell and Flathery, trade Taillon and go with an open competition for the fifth slot (ideally Brown, who did not look good in relief last year, not sure what the writer was thinking there).

          Me: Snell 32 million Flathery 25 million, Holmes 10 million and d’Arnoud 8 million = 75 million.

          Cubs are at around 57 million now after CB declared free agency and Almonte. Non-tender Wisdom, Madrigal which would be close to another 6 million and trade Taillon adding 17 million. Trade Tauchman, clearing nearly 4 and your 9 million under the tax.
          Bench promote from the prospect pool (Shaw, Canario, catcher and add a vacuum left fielder if you have one in the system).

          Roll a benc

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        • Gnar Dogg

          7 months ago

          Brown had 1 bad outing in relief this past season and it was in his big league debut.

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        • Cubby 2025

          7 months ago

          @ Fever Pitch…yep, how dare Steve Adams write such an article when Blackpink has told us for a month that they are doing internal improvements only. Jeeshhh….the gall of some reporters!

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        • User 3222006999

          7 months ago

          Never understood why you keep pushing to trade Tallion. Did he take a dump on your lawn or something?

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        • Drasco0366

          7 months ago

          Because I believe he is in between this year and last year, ie a guy closer to a 4 era and I think the Cubs can do better. Given the payroll limitations he would have to be moved to make two significant starting additions while hoping to also sign a closer.

          Would you rather have Snell and Taillon or Snell and Flathery?

          Also, I believe the fifth slot in the rotation should go to developing pitchers, at least until the trade deadline. We have several guys who can battle for that spot, Brown, Wesneski, Assad, Horton, Birdsell, Pearson, Wicks. Why not improve Taillon current slot in the rotation and add a prospect at the same time?

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        • User 3222006999

          7 months ago

          I have no need of Snell at the price he’s gonna want. So you’d rather pay Snell 200 million for 16 games a year( Or less) And trade Tallion at 18 million a year for 2 years, And have an all LH rotation? Flaherty hasn’t been consistent either. he’s either good or he sucks and Tallion is better and cheaper IMO. That’s a complete waste of money that will cripple the Tax for years. We already have 3 guys we can’t get rid of until 2027. You wanna add more? I hope you never become GM.

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        • Drasco0366

          7 months ago

          If you say so.

          16 games a year? Snell has never thrown less than 20 and that was last season and that was also with him signing late and not being ready at the start of the season.

          All lefty rotation? Last time I checked Flathery was right handed. So was Horton, Brown, Wesneski, Assad, Pearson and Birdsell.

          I also hope I never become a GM, god forbid a GM field a dominate starting rotation and win more than 83 games. The key to being a smart GM is constantly being in a state of rebuilding. No extension! No free agents! No trades! Let the kids play!!!!

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        • Drasco0366

          7 months ago

          I love it though, the guy who says “lets the kids play” talks about it crippling the budget.

          The Cubs can make those moves without it “crippling the budget”. They have a handful of close prospects that will be up this year or next, Bellinger becomes a free agent, Caissie steps in next season, Shaw pushes Nico out, then Happ and Suzuki become free agents, maybe then Smith is pushing Paredes out. Horton and Brown should replace Steele when he becomes a free agent. Over the next three seasons, the Cubs would have plenty of payroll flexibility.
          Managing a budget is not that hard if you have a bit of common sense

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        • User 3222006999

          7 months ago

          Yeah right. Because trading 18 million to take on 57 million or whatever it was you said makes complete Fiscal Sense. Wow.?

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        • Drasco0366

          7 months ago

          Yeah, to add two TOR starts over one 3/4 starter it sure does.

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        • PutPeteinthehall

          7 months ago

          Most of what you said was right. Great ideas. However you’re replacing the gold glove left fielder with a vacuum left fielder?

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      • CFS77

        7 months ago

        They should be close to 50M and they have Arb cases going up to 20M.

        If you go big you go after Burnes and be willing to go 7/200. On a back end arm they need a lefty. Minter would be a solid pick up.

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      • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

        7 months ago

        Frankie is not a dumpster pickup…

        10 mil is a lot

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  4. Blackpink in the area

    7 months ago

    You guys are killing me……

    How do the Cubs have 50 million to spend in order to get to last years payroll? Who did that math?

    Smyly, Hendricks, Wisdom and Neris. Am I missing someone? And this ignores raises for the current roster which I am sure there are a few.

    How is that 50 million?

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    • johncal25

      7 months ago

      Not sure the number but don’t forget last year guys like Trey Mancini and Tucker Barnhart were still on the payroll too.

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      • Blackpink in the area

        7 months ago

        It doesn’t add up. Do the math.

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        • User 3222006999

          7 months ago

          Just go Spotrac-MLB-Chicago Cubs and then the hard part, Learn how to read.. They are projected to have 60 million plus, EVEN IF he’s dumb enough to tender contracts to the above mentioned Stew Bums.

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        • Blackpink in the area

          7 months ago

          If the Cubs add 60 million to their payroll in 2025 I will change my name to Cubbieloverforlife.

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        • Drasco0366

          7 months ago

          Hi Cubloverforlife:
          Hendricks
          Smyly
          Mancini
          Barnhart
          Gomes
          Almonte
          Lopez
          Armstrong
          Bethancourt
          Bote
          Neris
          Leiter Jr.

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        • Blackpink in the area

          7 months ago

          So all those guys off the payroll and factor in raises and the total is 50 million?

          I don’t think it is.

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        • Drasco0366

          7 months ago

          Hendricks 16.5
          Bote 5
          Neris 9
          Smyly 10.5
          Almonte 2
          Gomes 6
          Mancini 7
          Barnhart 3.2
          Leiter 1
          60.2 million.

          Factor in all the other nickel and dime holdover such as Lopez, Nido, Morel, boxberger, Cooper and a bunch of others that add up pretty quick.

          Not so many arbitration eligible players aside from Steele and Paredes that are getting note worthy raises. Subtract Wisdom, Madrigal, Brewer, Merryweather perhaps and yeah math adds up.

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        • Blackpink in the area

          7 months ago

          Yeah it’s closer than I thought it was. I think it’s 40 to 45 to match last years payroll with the arb guys that actually get tendered a contract.

          Now why would anyone assume they will match last years payroll? Nothing suggests that’s sustainable. It’s not like the record payroll led to a good team it didn’t

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        • Drasco0366

          7 months ago

          So is there a duration for the name change?

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        • Blackpink in the area

          7 months ago

          I said they spend 60 million. Thats not happening.

          I say they spend on a catcher and some pen help then make a big trade. Catcher needs to be a free agent because the 2 teams that for sure have catchers to traade are St Louis and Pittsburgh and they pr9babky aren’t trading with the Cubs.

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        • Drasco0366

          7 months ago

          I think they will get close and that isn’t me being a homer.
          Hoyer is in the last year of his deal. He knows an extension is going to hinge on a playoff birth/run.
          Tom Ricketts has always let the Cubs spend near the luxury tax threshold as long as they are competitive. They were 237 this season (according to cots) and 230 last year. Doesn’t seem likely to change with Chicagos desire to get back into the post season.
          Also seems unlikely the Cubs gave Counsell a record deal for a manager only to dial back spending

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        • Blackpink in the area

          7 months ago

          You are probably being a little bit of a homer. Last time they had a 200 million dollar payroll the season after it was in the 70s. And perhaps they gave the manager money so they wouldn’t have to pay as much to the players.

          Maybe the focus of discussion should be on the moves they need to make not the amount they are going to spend.

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        • Drasco0366

          7 months ago

          What?
          Cubs ran a 237, 230, rebuilding 180 and 160, 216 and 237.

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        • Bet Your Sweet Bippy

          7 months ago

          Moving the goal posts, classic cubbielover4life move

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        • Blackpink in the area

          7 months ago

          I said 60 million and I change my name. Thats what I said read it and understand it.

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    • kenly0

      7 months ago

      Bote and Lopez are also off the books. Plus if they let Wisdom, Madrigal, Tauchman, and Almonte go. I figure it’s closer to 40 million available They don’t have but a few guys that will get nice raises in arbitration. Steele and Parades are basically the only ones. And, theirs won’t even be that much.

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      • Blackpink in the area

        7 months ago

        So you want me to add it all up or will you do it?

        A few weeks ago this site said it was 70 million. Today it’s 50 million. I wonder what it actually is.

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        • User 3222006999

          7 months ago

          What it actually is Again to the feeble minded is 88 million TODAY. What it will end up is how many contracts Hoyer tenders. Obvious ones are Steele about 6 million and how many of his “Pets” He feels the need to keep. So when you add it all up I figure with the guys you’d want, Like Steele, Merryweather , Pearson I’m tossing around 20 million into the kitty. So I figure about 60 miilion WITH Bellinger. 80 if he goes. I’d rather you just stay off the Cubs page than change your name to Sap, Or why can’t Pinkie read but I know it’s not gonna happen.

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        • Blackpink in the area

          7 months ago

          The Cubs are not adding 60 million in salary after their arb cases. Not happening no way no chance whstsoever.

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        • User 3222006999

          7 months ago

          I hope not. I don’t think they need 60 million dollars worth of FA’s. But then Jed does Love and Need shiny things to chase. If you had a laser pointer in his office you could probably have a ton of fun.

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        • Blackpink in the area

          7 months ago

          As i keep saying the Cubs have the young talent to make a big trade or 2. That’s what makes sense not adding payroll.

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        • User 3222006999

          7 months ago

          Yeah get in line. I’ve been saying it for the better part of 2 years.

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    • Joospife

      7 months ago

      Kyle Hendricks, who earned 14 million, and Yan Gomes, who earned 7 million, also come off the books.

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      • GeronimoSon

        7 months ago

        $ 46.02 MM coming off..

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    • Robert-5

      7 months ago

      Plus Gomes, Bote, Garrett Cooper, and the 5 guys released today. Also, I believe Bellinger’s salary drops @ $5M. Thats gotta be @ $20M.

      Maybe some other bad contract finally going away..? Not sure where they got $50M but doesn’t seem irrational.

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    • JoeBrady

      7 months ago

      How do the Cubs have 50 million to spend in order to get to last years payroll? Who did that math?
      ====================
      The four guys you mentioned = $39M, so you’re already 78% of the way there.

      Mancini = $7M, Gomes = $5M

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      • Blackpink in the area

        7 months ago

        Yes but then there are arbitration raises they have 10 or so guys expected to be tendered a contract.

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    • CFS77

      7 months ago

      They are at 189M. Tax is 241.it is a self imposed limit.

      In Arb cases there is potentially 20M in cases that Jed can drop. He has the pitching depth for back fill with pre Arb cases.

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    • Steve Adams

      7 months ago

      Dead money hits to Trey Mancini, Yan Gomes, Tucker Barnhart and David Bote — a combined $22MM. They also traded Mark Leiter, removing him from their arbitration class. That, combined with Smyly/Hendricks/Neris, is $58MM. Seiya Suzuki’s deal also paid him $20MM in 2024 but drops to $18MM in 2025.

      They’ve also already outrighted Yency Almonte ($1.9MM in 2024) and have several non-tender/trade candidates among their current arb class (Wisdom, Madrigal, Merryweather, Alzolay). The only in-house raises on guaranteed deals are $2MM to Swanson and $4MM to Imanaga. Swanson’s is offset by Suzuki’s salary reduction.

      So — yes. You’re missing someone. Quite a few.

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  5. jrnorny

    7 months ago

    Just because Jed says they will play for TOR starter & BOPB help doesn’t necessarily mean they play FA market for help, they have great Trade value to use if they choose too as well.

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    • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

      7 months ago

      I could foresee a bellinger to mariners trade

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  6. Blackpink in the area

    7 months ago

    Acting as if the Cubs are going to add 50 million to the current 2024 payroll is silly.

    As I said earlier they should make a big trade. They have the young talent to do so. Trade for Crochet. White Sox need outfielders and the Cubs have those.

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  7. Blackpink in the area

    7 months ago

    Patrick Mooney is a Cubs fan it appears.

    Guys. You keep trying to will the Cubs into spending but it’s getting old.

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    • Acoss1331

      7 months ago

      Hoyer says a lot of things, I’ll believe it when I see it lol

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      • Blackpink in the area

        7 months ago

        I don’t think he actually said any of what this article implies. It’s written by a Cubs reporter and also behind a paywall. Feel free to share actual quotes if you read it.

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  8. Blackpink in the area

    7 months ago

    There is this thing that fans do when their teams payroll is at a record high like the Cubs is. They pretend that’s the new norm and it’s lame. If it ends up being so then fine.

    This isn’t what sports are about folks.

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  9. Lloyd Emerson

    7 months ago

    “The Cubs are expected to be cheap in their search for upgrades…” That’s how it should read.

    Intelligent spending!!!

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    • Big whiffa

      7 months ago

      They have a max payroll. Blows my mind when cubs fans call ownership cheap

      Reply
  10. Captainmike1

    7 months ago

    Sure glad the yanks never signed Cody, what a waste of money that would have been

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    • JoeBrady

      7 months ago

      They spent $20M on Verdugo & Grisham instead.

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  11. MLB Top 100 Commenter

    7 months ago

    If only Cubs would reverse direction and sign Blake Treinan and Tanner Scott to have a solid 8-9 close. Add a catcher like Danny Jensen and a middle of the rotation pitcher and they would be done.

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    • Butter Biscuits

      7 months ago

      Agree

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  12. Blackpink in the area

    7 months ago

    How about Cassie and Triantos for Crochet? I like that deal for both teams.

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    • Logjammer D"Baggagecling

      7 months ago

      Nah. Caissie is on the short list of untouchables for the Cubs.

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      • Blackpink in the area

        7 months ago

        He’s not untouchable lol. He has no place to play.

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        • Logjammer D"Baggagecling

          7 months ago

          He’ll eventually be Seiya’s replacement. He needs to cut down on his k rate so he can stay in Iowa for a while. It’s unfortunate that injuries are inevitable so ONKC can be a call up if said player goes on the IL

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        • Blackpink in the area

          7 months ago

          Cassie is ready to play now. Cubs already have plenty of outfielders all under control for a while.

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        • Logjammer D"Baggagecling

          7 months ago

          I’m looking forwa4d to what Caissie does in spring training. Maybe he’ll get the 4th Outfield spot. It’s not the greatest scenario but st least he can get his feet wet. He’s been also learning 1B so in cast s*** it happens he can potentially start at 1st.

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      • Atlanta Jack

        7 months ago

        That kind of thinking is why your not in the playoffs even with that big payroll you have every year.

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      • Medecineman

        7 months ago

        Hoyer is in talks about him already….SAD.

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    • Atlanta Jack

      7 months ago

      Sounds like a good idea to me.

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      • Blackpink in the area

        7 months ago

        I agree Jack. Cubs have what 8 guys on the top 100 prospect list? They can trade 2 and be just fine they wouldn’t be sacrificing the future.

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    • JoeBrady

      7 months ago

      I doubt those two land Crochet. I think he’ll require a top-25 guy as the headliner.

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      • Blackpink in the area

        7 months ago

        That’s number 34 and 55. Thats as good of a pair of prospects any team can or will offer.

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  13. bmcferren

    7 months ago

    Ian Happ for Mitch Keller is the trade

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    • Logjammer D"Baggagecling

      7 months ago

      Happ has a full NTC. Apparently he has some major dirt on Jed Hoyer to get that. He’s done nothing to have earned that. 7 and a half pretty decent seasons. Nothing that justified getting a full ntc. Maybe a partial no trade.

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  14. Logjammer D"Baggagecling

    7 months ago

    Give me Tanner Scott or Mason Miller and Max Fried or Corbin Burnes.
    Cmon Jed moves like this will severely help your job or if you don’t make a move like that you night not have a job.

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    • Drasco0366

      7 months ago

      I like Fried, he’s a guy that is well within Hoyers comfort level but I’m tired of seeing “comfort level”. Cubs need to target Snell and Flathery (no QO on either) and a solid back if the bullpen reliever. I like Holmes and, just like last season, wouldn’t mind having Robertson back for a year.

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      • Logjammer D"Baggagecling

        7 months ago

        Either one would be good. Now that I think of it, another lefty in the rotation would make 3 lefties in the starting 5. Steele, Shōta and Wicks. Adding Snell or Fried would make Jamo the only righty unless Assad earns a starters job.

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  15. capone14

    7 months ago

    They have a great hitting catcher at AAA bring him up and he can learn what’s left on the fly , The starting pitching is fine unless they don’t have faith in the young pitchers they drafted ( starting pitching wasn’t the problem in 2024 ) cubs need power so sign Soto & Bregman trade for Rooker and then look to see who Japan is posting to help with the bullpen or Trade Nico and Happ for bullpen help maybe work out deal with A’s to get Rooker and some bullpen help

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    • Atlanta Jack

      7 months ago

      Is this guy a dreamer or what?

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      • User 3222006999

        7 months ago

        They have a great hitting future DH. The C part is still got a Long, Long, Very Long way to go.

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  16. SeanStL

    7 months ago

    They should spend all their money on Soto and then trade prospects for a solid starter. Plan B of signing someone like Snell and hoping for the best with their hitters, or even picking up a slight upgrade hitter, isn’t nearly as appealing.

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  17. Ogie Oglethorpe

    7 months ago

    Patrick Mooney again breaking a story like it is going to change your life on something that was so obvious during the season.

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  18. Captain Fernandez

    7 months ago

    The narrative of being aggressive has been consistent for a couple years now, but to date has been more geared towards the Wrigleyville real estate market than roster improvements.

    I hope they see the potential of the current roster and are aggressive though. Can really make themselves contenders. No reason the CBT should an obstacle.

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  19. oldgfan

    7 months ago

    SFG should want to trade Doval and Birdsong for Bellinger..
    Good arms !

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  20. rememberthecoop

    7 months ago

    I’m sick and tired of hearing Hoyer talk a good game. I’ll wait to see the results. Until then, it’s nothing more than selling tickets.

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  21. Big whiffa

    7 months ago

    Cubs fans are sooo negative! Maybe some positive reinforcement will get them the few more wins they need to make the playoffs!?

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  22. Old York

    7 months ago

    So, is this a hint that should I pick Burnes & Snell to sign with the Cubs on the FA selection contest?

    Reply
  23. to4

    7 months ago

    Max, Fried, Jack Flaherty and Shane Bieber would look good on them. I don’t think however Burnes and Snell will end up there !!

    Reply
  24. cplwhite

    7 months ago

    Fine but get a freaking power bats in this line up too

    Reply
  25. Medecineman

    7 months ago

    Come on Rickets, get rid of this incompetent fool before he gets rid of Owen Caisie or a few other REAL FUTURE ASSETS and throws more money away. Hoyer is a JOKE. Don’t allow him to destroy their minor league system.

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    • MLBTR needs to hire editors

      7 months ago

      He’s not a good GM at all and I’m surprised more people don’t talk about it. Always been overrated just because he worked under Theo, but his teams have only made the postseason once.

      Reply
  26. MLBTR needs to hire editors

    7 months ago

    When “and” starts the sentence, there shouldn’t be a comma after it.

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