Feb. 14: Stroman reported to camp this morning. Both he and Boone have spoken with reporters about the right-hander’s arrival (all subsequent video links via SNY). Stroman, notably, when asked about the potential of pitching in the bullpen, decisively stated, “I’m a starter.” Asked whether that was a message to general manager Brian Cashman, Stroman said that was not the case but rather just a statement based on his track record and his offseason work to prepare himself to be available every fifth day.
Both Stroman and Boone pointed out the folly of assuming anything regarding the health of an entire rotation so early in camp, with Boone joking: “First of all, happy Valentine’s Day. It’s February 14. You’re getting way ahead of this. We’re building him up to be a starting pitcher. That’s so far out there. Obviously, we’ll address anything we have to when we get into certain situations, but right now the focus is on getting him ready.”
Boone added that he doesn’t envision the Yankees going to a six-man rotation but wouldn’t rule it out entirely. He noted that the Yankees have 10 to 11 pitchers who are preparing as starting pitchers this spring, adding: “Who knows how many of them you’re going to have to use right away?”
Feb. 13: The Yankees’ signing of Max Fried pushed Marcus Stroman out of the team’s rotation, effectively bumping him down to seventh starter. Even after sending Nestor Cortes to Milwaukee in the trade that netted closer Devin Williams, Stroman was sixth on the team’s depth chart. The Yankees have spent much of the offseason looking for a trade partner, but to no avail. Stroman is not only owed $18.5MM this coming season but would unlock an $18.5MM player option for the 2026 season if he pitches 140 innings in 2025.
The ongoing trade saga has created plenty of chatter about Stroman already this winter, but the opening of spring camps creates a bit more intrigue. Stroman hasn’t been with the team for the past two days of workouts. SNY’s Andy Martino reports that the 33-year-old did take his physical for the club already. Stroman isn’t holding out, per Martino, but rather is taking a few extra days, which is permissible under the collective bargaining agreement.
Manager Aaron Boone downplayed the issue, stating that he and Stroman had a “very good” conversation and that the right-hander is in a good spot (video links via SNY). Stroman isn’t missing any mandatory dates; even though pitchers and catchers technically began reporting this week, the CBA stipulates that Feb. 22 is the mandatory report date. Workouts and practices thus far have technically been optional/voluntary. Boone was asked today if Stroman’s absence from camp was in any way disappointing.
“Obviously I want all of our players here, clearly,” said Boone. “That said, I’m comfortable with where he’s at physically and mentally. He’s a prideful player. This is a guy that’s had a great career. It’s a little bit of an awkward situation, obviously. So, of course I want him here. I’m trying to keep nudging him to get him here, but again, you also have to respect the fact that this is something that players are allowed to do. There’s a mandatory [report] date.”
It’s possible Yankees general manager Brian Cashman could find a trade partner in the coming days, but it’s likelier that Stroman will simply report to camp and begin progressing through his standard spring schedule. As camp progresses, injuries with the Yankees or with a potential trade partner could change the veteran Stroman’s current situation. Were it not for the ongoing trade efforts and a free agent signing that bumped him from the team’s rotation plans, the optics of him missing an extra couple days early in camp wouldn’t be as notable.
Stroman signed a two-year, $37MM deal in the Bronx last winter. He got out to an excellent start in pinstripes, pitching to a 2.60 ERA through his first dozen starts. He hit a cold spell in June, and while Stroman had a couple more pockets of strong outings, his overall ERA from June 1 onward checked in at 5.70. He finished the season with a 4.31 ERA in 154 2/3 frames. A disproportionate amount of the damage versus Stroman came at home and against left-handed batters. Stroman held righties to a .260/.327/.391 slash and logged a 3.09 earned run average on the road. Lefties torched him for a .296/.372/.474 slash, however, and he was rocked for a 5.31 ERA at Yankee Stadium, where he allowed 15 of his 19 home runs on the season.
I’d buy that for a dollar
“This is a guy that’s had a great career. It’s a little bit of an awkward situation, obviously.”
Great….
Career…
???????
Professional bridge-burner. No thanks.
What team would want this cancer on their roster? Especially with that contract? If someone looks at him the wrong way, he becomes a p*ssy.
22 WAR at the highest level earning over 100MM is a great career. No one said hes a HoF so get your panties out of a wad and relax junior
His point was “great career” goes beyond the numbers. I have really enjoyed Stroman at times but there is no denying he is toxic.
I suppose Aaron Boone is just saying what he feels he is supposed to say.
But “great career”? Eh, no.
Just look up and down that roster he manages in the Bronx. He is kissing Stroman’s butt.
Horace, sure i agree. But downplaying someones achievements and pretending that he didnt have a great career is silly.
Buckner, again, “”great career”?”? Eh, yes. Hes been very successful at the MLB level and has made a ton of money to boot. By all measures that is a great career whether you like it or not
I read it as “had” being the operative word in what Boone said. If there was a team that still wanted him in the rotation, he’d be in somebody’s rotation. He’s indeed had quite a good career AND he’s past his peak. Two things can be true.
There’s reasons teams aren’t knocking down the Yankees doors to trade for Stroman. Ask Stroman’s previous teams why they aren’t interested in a reunion.
@buck
explain to me, specifically, how he’s been a cancer in his current teams?
As a Yankee fan I’ll agree, he’s been a headache every stop. I hated the signing and blame Cashman for it. Stroman alleged racism where racism didn’t exist, he was a victim when there was no subject, he’s a headache and honestly the Yankees signed him so they now have to live with him and deal with the fact that no teams want him even though his contract is not outrageous. Just like no teams want Bauer who has never been convicted of a crime and players who have done worse were not banned yet Bauer’s twitter comments created the persona non grata so has Stroman’s comments yet he’s still in the majors with half the talent…
@billy
I think you misread me
All yankees need to do is eat some salary, and would love to have him back on the jays
@NYCityRiddler — He certainly has the resume for that title.
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Stroman is not happy about being left off the post season roster last year and then the team adds a starter to take his spot in the rotation this season! Signing a 2 year deal with the vesting option at 37M it’s understandable that he would believe he will be starting for the Yankees this year for sure and if he pitches well next season as well. If I were him I’d be pissed off too!
He should count his blessings the Yankees offered him that bloated contract when he was well past his prime. There’s 0% chance he pitches 140 innings this year. We all know it and i think Stroman got to camp and started counting the starting pitchers younger and better than him and he finally realizes it now too
Stroman’s always had a bad attitude
yanks are no saints either, they’ll let him only pitch 139 innings to avoid the player option
@ chandlerbing
Hope you’re right.
MLB economics =
I mean he “only” pitched 154 laste year, if he doesnt start the year as one of the starters, they might not even need to do it intentionally
Wait, it’s a dog whistle to point out when a dude has had a bad attitude? Have you followed his career?
If he throws 139 mediocre innings I absolutely would shut him down there Daniel Jones style. 18.5 million to be nice to someone is crazy
Boo Hoo!!
The Stroman contract has not been Cashman’s finest hour.
He will probably blame the Astros for that too.
Or blame the Doyers for the disrespect.
I’ll save you guys some time. Stroman is ruining baseball!!!
They signed a guy nobody else wanted, for money no one else was going to give him and a year later are surprised that still nobody wants him and definitely no one is willing to pay him…
@Rsox
Don’t confuse overpaid for unwanted. His ERA/FIP put him about top 65 among pitchers that threw 140 +innings last year. His GB% was still elite sound 49%. His numbers home vs road age night and day. Out him on a more pitcher friendly Dyson with a decent defense behind him and he like be a solid mod rotation guy (150-175 innings with a 3.85-4.00 era.
There is no denying the talent or that he puts it all out there. Then he does this kind of stuff.
@horace
what kind of stuff? he’s not violating any rules and was in communication with the team? it’s not mandatory yet.
He is being a baby.
Saying someone was in the top 65 when only 77 starters threw 140+ IP isn’t saying much. Of that same group he was also 70th in fWAR really close to Cal Quantrill who just got under 4m.
It’s inevitable that there will be some injuries to SPs between now and opening day. Somebody is bound to have a spot for Stroman eventually. The Yankees will just need to be willing to eat at least half of his contract
Just eat half the money and send him somewhere
Gonna be more than that. Plus more for next year if he qualifies.
@Simm
Look at the guys signed this winter. Stro at $10 mil per is a fair deal of you apply context. How many pitchers pitched 150 innings and had a better era/fip? About 65. Now factor in his home vs away splits. On the road his numbers were strong. What kind of pitcher is he? A GB pitcher. Last year he ranked 5th with a GB% of 48%. Any team in a stadium that is equal or negative in reducing homers with a good defense needing an innings rate should go after him.
Now and in his baggage. I am not sure anyone will take for 10m. That’s before you consider him for 18m again in 26’. At the very least the tables are picking up more than half and part of the second year.
He didn’t even show up to camp. I’m more someone would want him for 5-7m a year.
@simm
not sure why ppl can’t get this. it’s not mandatory yet and he’s in communication with the team. he’s not violating any rules.
How many other players haven’t shown up?
@wade
does it matter? it’s his right and he spoke to the team to let them know and get the ok.
@knicks he better get his butt and his baggage down to Florida asap. Boone’s waiting impatiently.
And we aren’t sure why you can’t see past the bullcrap. It’s a team sport. There are many dynamics that make a great team. It’s obvious Aaron’s not pleased with what’s going on. That should tell you everything you need to know about it.
Knicks I’m aware it’s not mandatory. At the same time it rarely happens. He is a head case, lots of teams want no part of that.
You remember the scene in Office Space where the restaurant manager asks if Jennifer Aniston wants to only do the bare minimum? Marcos is doing the bare minimum. Not how you gain respect in any endeavor.
I’m surprised they are having trouble moving him, assuming not asking for anything back and adding 10 mil should be market value for 150 ip @ 4FIP
“I’m surprised”…I’m surprised too. I had thought if the Yankees kicked in $10M+ he’d already be gone by now. The Yankees can’t be expecting to trade him at full price can they?
After a month in the pen his option will basically be impossible to vest. I think that’s when you see a trade.
Or, more likely, a grievance. from Stroman.
Grievance?
Does his contract stipulate what his role on the pitching staff will be?
He’s clearly not one of their five best starters. If someone goes down with an injury, then maybe.
Stroman plays for ONE team: Team Money.
That is ALL he is about.
He’s been a starter his whole mediocre (ok, ok, “league average”) career. If he winds up in the pen and cannot possibly reach his 140 IP, you can bet there will be a grievance filed.
Or, at least “the threat of a grievance.”
If anyone is gonna whine, it’s Marcus.
I don’t doubt he’ll file a grievance. As a Jays fan I’m well aware of his personality. Although I do feel a lot of those same traits are what have kept him working hard enough to stay in the league as long as he has.
But he only put up 0.7 bWAR in 2024 so I don’t think he’ll win.
“Contract stipulate…role on the pitching staff”…Grievances in MLB are very much like sunflower seeds. They almost always get spit right out.
Okay dude. Calm down. Jeeze.
@Buckner
If the Yanks 5 SP are healthy then there simply isn’t a rotation spot for him this no reasonable cause. I’m sure it won’t be an issue.
@mule your name made me think of the band. I hadn’t thought about them in at least 10 years. Thanks.
Stroman is a negative for any team, He deserves to sit on the pine for the 2025 season.
Lays be clear here. He took his physical and cleared it with management to come in by the mandatory date. He’s not holding out because there’s nothing to hold out for. Let’s not paint him negatively
“Let’s not paint him negatively”…Marcus Stroman has proven time and time again that he does a great job of painting himself in a negative light and doesn’t need any help.
That being said, the mandatory official reporting date is still several days away and Stroman is currently not in violation of any existing baseball rule.
This is just a good example of the(baseball) MSM(and some fans)not having anything else to talk about with games still being 7+ weeks away.
People definitely shouldn’t get bent out of shape because Marcus Stroman didn’t come to camp early like many other players.
@mlb
other than social media posts what has he done to be sick a “cancer”? I know someone that says he’s an excellent teammate just where his feelings on his sleeves especially if he keys the team down which he usually blame himself for the failure.
“Other than social media posts”…Well, you just named one example of questionable behavior right there. And, bashing former employers, managers, GMs or employees is terribly bad form in practically any business.
But, I essentially said it’s a non issue, because he’s not in violation of any existing MLB rule and appears to have consulted Aaron Boone on the matter beforehand.
@mlb
how does airing grievances with ex employers cause a rift or make him a cancer with his current teammates? I’m just saying, this incident aside, certain Playstation get that cancer tag put on them unfairly
Indeed. Unwavering reverance for our former employers and coworkers is mandatory in a polite society. ALTERNATELY, sometimes your boss sucks and I making life a less than pleasant experience. In that case I’d like to think someone would speak truth to power but I have been seeing more noodle spines lately so who knows what the standard is anymore.
@tj13
the more and more I watch the podcasts and listen to the players voice their truths the less Stro seems to be a rebel.
Knicks, you don’t ever proofread, do you? Lol, no big deal but every post I’ve ever read always has something random all through it like, “Stroman is a good Playstation. He’ll be fine at the back of the corner store.” No biggie. Just saying.
Lays makes a clear potato chip?
“Clear potato chip”..Well, I don’t have any intel on a clear potato chip, but I just found out yesterday that “Jolly Time” makes a cheese flavored microwave popcorn that’s pretty darn good.
A bag of those and a Crystal Pepsi and I’m all set.
@ghostofzim
Only thing better if they came out with Vanilla Crystal Pepsi
Also don’t forget to grab some Zima and a bag of Jolly Ranchers
Team player, for sure.
(yes, that’s sarcasm)
He does that all by himself. He needs no help from the mlbtr comments.
Stroman has the brush
I wish the Yankees would have signed a bat instead of Fried. The Yanks are good at developing and maximizing pitchers, not so much hitters.
i agree they would of been better off with bregman then fried.now fried is good,but not great.they had good pitching.i believe they panicked when they lost soto.my question is why did they pivit to fried instead of bregman?
@slim @stan
I can’t belive you guys would rather have Bregman than Fried. With Cole’s questionable durability, Rodon ‘s wisdoms consistency, and the lack of experience of Gil, Schmidt and 1 year of control of Cortes I thought improving the FOR was a smart move. Plus Fried has a great mix of pitched that should age well and he’s sum a WS. pitching a shutout in the deciding game. Acquiring him slower then to trade him depth and get a closer in Williams too.
Just a lot of money and years for Fried.
Very good pitcher, so far.
But that’s a huge commitment.
Good point. 3B is a black hole ️.
Stroman + attitude to STL for Arenado.
Problems solved – on both ends.
St. Louie don’t want him. Problem not solved.
I think they’re going to trade Gil at the deadline to get that bat. They seemed willing to move him for Tucker but the Astros went with the Cubs offer instead
I don’t think the hitter existed on the level of fried, there was Soto who is clearly elite and they went for him but the options once he came off the board weren’t at that level. I love fried’s mentality and skillset and I think he’s as likely as any pitcher to be worth the value of his contract. He’s a true “pitcher” and will adapt as he ages. I’m OK with leaving the bregmans and Alonsos and adames’ alone and waiting to splurge on a Kyle tucker. They are pushing for spending on elite talent so they have less DJ’s, Hicks, etc… Weighing them down
The Yankees are going to have to deal this guy before the season starts. Even if they have to eat tons of salary and not get much in return. It will be a distraction.
Stro, 16 mil and Lombard Jr for Donovan.
Cardinals say no because of his option. I’m not even sure how they’d feel about trading Donovan to begin with, but I’m sure they’d want nothing but young bucks that are near ready. They have enough guys they wanna trade who are saying “screw this organizations immediate future”, as is.
So, no real news?
Hated this signing from the beginning.
“Hated this signing”…It always seemed to be a reactionary free agent deal, tied to missing out on some better pitchers like Blake Snell a couple yrs back.
I was a huge proponent of signing Snell last offseason.
@sal
you should be glad they didn’t.
Nah, man. Snell is a top pitcher. Had they signed him last season, I doubt we would have spent MORE on Fried this off-season, hence more money to have spent elsewhere since that’s a concern. And without a doubt Snell>Fried, and I say that even though I like Fried.
He’s always been a first half guy. Yankees should get innings out of him early and then send him to the bullpen and, by all means, don’t let him vest.
That’s toeing the line of a MLBPA grievance on the other side. They need to trade him somewhere he can start. Suck it up and eat more cash to make it happen.
Agreed. To make this go away, the trade should include $7 million in cash to the receiving team in 2025 and another $7 million in 2026 if the option vests this year. Cashman – pay for your mistake and let’s just move on.
Well, that 7m in cash is would be taxed at the highest level, so, you’re talking more like 15m with the penalties to make him go away, plus likely the same the following year unless they drop enough salary somewhere through the following season
There’s no way to justify giving Stroman a rotation spot over Cole, Fried, Gil, Rodon, or Schmidt. If the Yankees hold onto Stroman he’ll likely be in the bullpen from the start barring injury and he’s making too much to be a reliever
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Yankees just release Stroman somewhere in between 135 and 140 innings to prevent him from getting that player option.
If teams did that, I wish them luck in the future in signing desired free agents.
Unless there’s an injury, I don’t see a path to 140 innings on the Yankees. He’s going to be in the pen from the beginning.
Agreed. I’m not even sure he’ll be effective out of the pen with his stuff. He pretty much needs to start innings clean.
The proof is in the pudding. The bottom line is, the Yankees don’t want him and nobody else does either so they’re stuck with him. they signed him so they gotta reap what they sell. But they’re using his contract as an excuse to the final piece of their puzzle getting a real third baseman not some guy who has a 50+ OPS or something somebody who’s not even half of replacement level basically is what they’ve got
as a result, they’ve allowed Bregman to go to the Red Sox making them instantly a contender. That is on Cashman.
The upside to keeping him in the pen (beyond the obvious: he’s not a good starter anymore) is that his trade value at the deadline should be a bit better than it is now, if an acquiring team knows he’s not going to hit 140 IP in ’25 and trigger the ’26 option.
Stroman as a pure rental (with a bit of remaining salary paid down) should actually be moveable.
He’s a good starter outside Yankee Stadium. The Yankees (and their fans) have really gone out of their way to bad mouth one of their trade assets. Good luck getting value. Best thing would to be give him spring training starts and see if he earns a rotation spot. Planning on a healthy pitching staff is a Fool’s Errand.
He’s actually not good away from Yankee Stadium though. He had a 4.86 FIP, 5.0 K/9, 2.6% K-BB%, and 1.53 WHIP on the road last year.
If the peripherals don’t improve this year, he’s almost certainly not posting another road ERA under 4.
CBA – You have the Yankees confused with the Pirates (cut Rowdy Téllez to not pay a couple hundred grand bonus last year).
Stroman isn’t one of the top 5 starters on the team. He isn’t reaching 140 innings.
Halos make a trade for Stro
Stroman plus whatever money it takes for Rengifo?
Doubtful Angels do this now that Rendon is out…or ever…
Don’t take my dreams Sal!! lol
I love Rengifo, but shockingly it feels like the Angels are sorta trying to compete.
You know who could use Stroman? The Rockies. I’m wondering if we could work a deal for McMahon. Stroman and whatever else they need.
Strohman is a really good first half pitcher. Let him pitch for two months and then trade him at the deadline. Let him crash and burn on some other team.
Just send him to the Braves already. Arcia for stroman. Yankees cover $9 million.
I don’t think Arcia is better than what we have already tbh.
@Pronkington: Another garbage trade proposal from a Yankees homer. Braves obviously plan to utilize their over abundance of young arms to fill the back of the rotation spots. Why would they trade the only viable ML SS on their 40 man roster for a pitcher who’s too expensive and isn’t guaranteed to produce value greater than their in house options? Yanks couldn’t pay down enough of Stroman’s deal to make him of interest to the Braves.
Arcia is so NOT all that, that I didn’t give this suggestion a thought as a NYY fan. We already have guys on the team like him like OCab. No interest, but I don’t see how it’s laughable.
Didn’t claim “Arcia is all that.” I said the Braves have zero interest in trading the only ML SS on their 40 man roster for Stroman for several reasons. You’re responding to a comment (laughable) that I edited out of my original response.
If you wrote it, you at least thought it. Either way, this is far from a homer trade no matter how many SS they have. To me, it’s not a match because we already have an Arcia or two that I’d rather play.
It’s a “homer trade” just like other Yankee fans proposals to dump Stroman so yes I thought it was laughable. The Braves have half a dozen plus better rotation options than Stroman. All of them on minimum/near minimum salaries.
……….”half a dozen plus better back of the rotation options than Stroman.”
I’m a Braves fan mang. Arcia is not a starting shortstop for any team. His defensive and batting are utility at best. I’d rather roll with Nacho than Arcia, and Nacho isn’t even a shortstop anymore.
You’re right that Nacho isn’t a SS. After the Braves sent him back to Gwinnett when he bombed his callup to Atlanta, he played the rest of the season at 3B. He also can’t hit a fb. Probably not worth anything more than throw in status in a deal. Of course Arcia is a “starting SS for any team.” The Braves are stuck w/him as their starter because they have no other options on the 40 man.
Hell no
You would also have to throw in your number 1 prospect
For Arcia???? Lol now THAT is laughable. Dude hit .214 last year. Please keep him.
Think the Angels missed a golden opportunity to buy a prospect or two by taking Stroman.
His peripherals suggest a mid rotation guy. He costs less than Kikuchi. And prospects. We need those.
Which Yankees prospect(s) would make sense?
I’d have sent Rengifo because he’s valuable and aimed for two top 10 types. Maybe Hampton and another guy outside the top 3/4.
It’s still early, maybe Cashman bites the bullet and works out a deal with Perry.
The Dodgers take everyone, send him to the Dodgers for some bats and balls and salary relief. They can give him a $2 million contract and to further the rest.
oh, I forgot they only take good players. Never mind.
Pitch him about 38 meaningless innings out of the pen until the deadline, and then trade him to some desperate team for nothing when it’s too late for him to reach 140 innings
Despite all the smooth brain racism in this thread, a lot of teams could use him. (If you just can’t handle not mentioning politics on an mlb site please get help, you are pathetic, and nobody enjoys you).
Very judge-ey response, Mr. smooth-brained racist.
Morgan Freeman said “You want to end racism? Stop talking about it!”
I don’t know Stroman.
Just my opinion: he doesn’t seem like a team player.
Racism, lol. Yeah, that’s what it is. Go ahead and keep claiming that crap at every turn though. You’ve (not you literally, but those with your victim/holier than thou mentality) already cried wolf so much nobody cares anymore already. At least not enough for those claims to change anything. Probably mostly because there’s nothing to change.
They’ll need him in rotation, perhaps from the get go. Injuries happen.
Stroman had a weird season last year. He made 30 appearances. In his first 15 appearances, he had an ERA of 3.08, but his FIP was 4.79. In his last 15 his ERA was 5.79, FIP was 4.42.
Uh oh…
I sure hope he doesn’t find himself in the Friendly Confines…
Ugh.
He’s a clown. I was a fan of how well he pitched for the Mets, and respected how professional he was. Then he left the team and did nothing but talk smack about the coaches and organization. Professional a$$ clown.
I wonder if an Arenado to the Yankees deal is contingent on Stroman going back to the Cardinals.
I’d be fine having another mid starter, but there’s no shot the Cardinals would take on the 18 million option the next year.
And it sounds like the Yankees want the Cards eating money on Arenado’s side.
How is Stroman’s market value less than half his current salary?
I can think of several guys that pitched less innings, are older and/or had a worse era/FIP than Stroman yet got much more than 8-9M.
Verlander, Scherzer, Morton and Cobb all got 15M. Sugano also got 15M with no MLB experience. Clay Holmes got 13M and he hasn’t started in years. Montas got 17M.
.
It’s Cashman. Similar to why the Cards still have Arenado. The difference being that Cashman’s hands aren’t tied and can afford to keep waiting for his price.
Unpopular opinion – it is inevitable that 1 of the starters is going to go down with an injury at some point. In the case of the Yankees it always seems like it’s earlier in the season. Last year they lost Cole for a good part of the year, had Schmidt get hurt and Gil miss a little time. I’m also shocked that Rodon didn’t hit the IL with his track record.
If they trade Stroman and get a lousy return/eat most of the contract they’re gonna regret it at some point in 2025.
Get him out of New York and he’d be a good fit on a small market team with a big OF. If they pay half, even better.
Never should have signed him…
Cunningham
Literally the only person to block me on Twitter was……Marcus Stroman
No doubt his ego took a huge hit and he does have a very large ego but he is small in stature, 33 and going in the wrong direction pitching. A tough sell.
The bottom line is, the Yankees don’t want him, but nobody else does either. They’ve been trying to shop them for months without a bite. The proof is in that pudding we stuck with them and he could be useful actually cause someone you know will go down . The real problem is, the Yankees are using his contract, which they didn’t have to procure, so that’s on them, as an excuse to not finish the team and get a third baseman. So as a result, guess what the Red Sox are now a contender thanks to us. They gave Brennan the three-year contract that we could have easily done.Period. In fact, me now even be better than us. Their top three hitters are better than ours. At a minimum and they’re pitching. Staff is much improved.
If NY signed Bregman to the same deal as Boston, it would have cost them $80M per year. There was no way Cashman was doing that.
This feels like an A’s type of trade, given their inability to attract FAs. Stro would be fun over there.
I don’t know this guy, besides the history of being a complainer. Obviously he’s not very smart, or else he would be in camp working his butt off and trying to show the Yankees how wrong they were to go out and buy another starter.
Him not being there pretty much confirms what most people believe, that he’s not a team player.
Other teams are not stupid, they can see what everyone else sees.
Why is anyone upset about Marcus Stroman (or any player at all) missing the first couple days of Spring Training? On the business side nothing changes, either the Yanks find a trade partner and he gets moved or he becomes an expensive long reliever until a starter gets injured which is fairly common when the first line of your job description is “throw a ball 90+mph at least 80 times a week”. On the baseball side of things missing his first spring training game action, if this even progresses that far, is irrelevant too since one or two innings throwing to hitters who won’t even be in major league camp a week or two later isn’t going to make or break Stroman’s season performance.
I’m not a fan of Stroman. I wanted him gone already. But, he’s still here and it’s late in the offseason so I ask this…where are they replacing his innings? Very suspect starting rotation right now. And of course there’s the old adage “these things have a way of figuring themselves out”
They have 5 starters ahead of him in Cole, Fried, Rodon, Gil, and Schmidt.
Cole and Fried will be babied bc of their elbows/contracts, Gil and Schmidt will be babied bc they are new age SP’s and Rodon is just a wildcard. And odds all 5 are healthy for a significant part of the season is unlikely. Why not go 6 man rotation and when the inevitable injury occurs drop down to 5.
TLDR version: Stroman’s home splits had significantly more HRs than he did on the road, so maybe he’s a much better pitcher playing his games away from Yankee Stadium.
I’m not a Stroman guy, but if a team paid half his contract then I’d consider him. I’m a Cardinals fan and I really like our young pitchers and I don’t want one necessarily stuck in AAA because of Stroman (but this also fixes the infield issues with having Arenado. And if Stroman is even just so-so then later in the year I’m sure they would do their best to cut his innings). But trading Arenado for Stroman, where the Yankees pay all of Arenado’s contract and something like $12M-$15 of Stromans’ contract, I think I’d be in. He has had around a 3.5 ERA til last year. But looking at least years splits:
Home: 16 GP. 5.31 ERA.91hits.50 ER. 15 HR.
Road: 14 GP. 3.09 ERA.76 hits.30 ER. 4 HR.
He gave up nearly 4x as many HR while pitching 84.2 IP and 70 IP on the road. That’s a massive difference, and we all know NYY have a notoriously small field. The hits are equivalent to the number of innings he pitched.
The number of runs given up on the road, 30 over up 70 IP, would be 36 over 36 over 84.2 IP. So given the equal number of IP, he gave up 14 more HRs. I’m sure it exists somewhere, but I’m not sure what the average HR costs in runs, but I would certainly think it’s more than 14:11.
So put Stroman in an average ball park and repeat the results of last year and Stroman would have had a very good year. In 2022 he also was much better on the road. But historically he has relatively similar home and road ERAs. And while only 4 HRs is on the low side compared to other seasons, the ones I looked up were not drastically higher.
Ooh, last thing. If he stinks and does give up HRs, then either don’t start him or have a quick hook at the first signs of trouble. The Yankees would be paying most of the bill anyway, and then you’re done with him after 2025. $3-6M risk could really pay off. This is all on the field, of course, and doesn’t account for any of clubhouse or off-field antics.
This is the last mlb contract this clown will ever see.
a 5’8″ dude who has won 87 games in the MLs. And as for these people on here referring to him as a clown and a loser? The only thing they know about pitching is that they know nothing.
Didn’t realize Stroman was so disliked. He was on my team (Mets) and I don’t know a single thing about the guy other than that he’s very obsessed with being short.
Can he play 3rd base so we dont have to see DJ or the 2 Oswalds stink up the infield? He’d probably hit better than all 3.
Was thinking the Sacramento Athletics could swing a deal and make him their #4 starter. Yanks pay AT LEAST half his salary and we just give up a very minor minor leaguer. But didn’t realize how unliked he was. Lol
How could Feb 22 be a reasonable reporting date? Their first exhibition game is prior to that.
Yanks need to lower expectations on what they’re going to get for this guy. Vesting option is problematic…if the receiving team tries to limit his innings for whatever reason he’ll become a huge problem. Just eat $10m and take a mid level prospect and call it a day already.
If everyone is healthy, starting the year with a 6 man rotation can be good for them. Theoretically keeps everyone healthy/fresh on the back half of the season.
I can see the Astros trading for him, as long as the Yankees eat half the contract. Astros need more pitching depth
Get this guy outta here. I get it, he’s training as a starter, but to just plainly say that without any hint of caring or at the least, reading the room. He is not a team player. The proper response is “I feel that I’m best served as a starter, but I’ll help this team any way I can.” For f’s sake ingratiate yourself to like ANYONE!
I don’t take issue with him not sugarcoating things. He was made promises by Cashman upon his signing that he would be a starter based on how his contract is structured. Now he’s being cast aside for better options even though he remains a viable, healthy backend starter for just about any other team. If he pitches out the pen, his ’26 option obviously won’t vest and he’ll probably have some issues finding a good-paying starter job next season.
I get all that, but read the room, you’re the sixth guy here no matter what you’re contract says. He’s not guaranteed starts and he sure didn’t pitch better than the guys ahead of him. Again ingratiate yourself to your teammates and future employers.
Listening to WFAN talk about this right now what a mess. This guy will either do what he’s told or breach his contract. The lack of self-awareness on his behalf to not realize he’s currently the 6th best starter on the team is laughable. Either that or his ego is just that massive that he doesn’t care and he wants to force Gil/Schmidt into the bullpen with his selfishness.
Your comments against Marcus Stroman should be a reflection of how well you’d do if you fought him. A lot of people forget that. Keyboard warriors
What a ridiculous take. Does every argument breakdown into a fight for you? Because if so I’d seek some professional help quick because that’s a recipe for failure.
I’ve never quite understood the hate for Stroman. Works his butt off. Relatively healthy throughout his career. Has anlot of intensity and wants to win. Does he have a big of mouth, sure. But I’ll take guys like him over guys like Gleybar Torres on my team any day of the week. He would have fit in well with the 2004 Red Sox. Lot’s of big loud personalities.
He noted that the Yankees have 10 to 11 pitchers who are preparing as starting pitchers this spring.
Which is it Dr. Boonedoggle? 10 OR 11?
That’s the point, Yanks wanted to save money by trading Stroman, they might move him in spring training when injuries occur to starters! They will eat some of his salary!
Seems like a 3rd team could be invited in to facilitate to he Arenado trade.
Arenado to Yankees, Stroman to 3td team, and prospect from Tanks and 3rd team to Cards.
Just to get them to shut up about the Arenado trade.
Divorced parents, Duke educated, of course he has issues.
As Casey Stengel used to say, you never have enough pitching! Yanks will use more than 5 starters this year, pitchers are outlier!
Sure, but you need the guy you have sixth on the depth chart to take on the long relief role in the meantime and Stroman isn’t playing ball. So we’re forced to start him over Schmidt?
It’s early though so yes these things tend to work out, but if it doesn’t??? That’s why it’s better to find him a new home now and not worry about it.
While he has at times hurt himself youhave to admire Stroman in a way. His entire life/career he has been told he couldn’t hang with the big boys and he always proved everyone wrong. There is not one pitching or baseball expert posting on this story who wouldn’t love to have such a career as a major league ball player. Earn millions competing at the highest level known playing a game . But we had no talent or determination or drive or whatever so we became baseball fans. spectators.
My bet is Stroman is in the rotation somewhere by May 1 and he will compete at the very least.
Stroman manages to accomplish reducing the Yankees already thin trading position. A little self-knowledge might have helped–if he had pitched like an $18M man perhaps the Yankees might not have gone so hard after Fried? That being said, pitches get hurt and he’ll get his starts somewhere.
Stro in a nut shell
I love my new team and I am excited to be a part of this organization.
2 months later: team dislikes him.
1 month later: injury. No one cares. Crickets
You never have enough pitching….Stroman, regardless of his so-called “attitude” that every negative commenter has centered on, is an asset that the Yankees should plan on employing unless a pitching needy team approaches them about making a trade for an asset of theirs that fits with Yankee needs….that way, both teams accomplish a win-win scenario…..let’s not believe what the pundits have to say about the desperation on the Yankees part to separate themselves from Stroman or what a clubhouse pariah he is….he’s a professional ballplayer who can help the team.
A pitcher that’d be motivated to beat the Yankees brains in is exactly what Boston needs. I’d take him but not at that price, New York gonna have to pony up so Breslow can say to Stroman this is how much the Yankees pay you to play against them and make that chip bigger….If there’s ever a player with a chip on his shoulder and is motivated by slights it’s him.
He doesn’t need a chip. He needs better stuff and better control of that stuff.
With everything said about Stroman and how it’s all about him and the money he reminds me of another player that has the same attitude…all about him, all about the money and a big chip on his shoulder…Stroman is just the pitching version of Tommy Pham…he might win you some games but he will wear out his welcome sooner than later.
I think the Yankees will keep him until the deadline and let him pitch some just to show he is still a starting pitcher but nowhere close to the innings needed to trigger any incentives / options. Somebody will trade for him if they think he can help them get to the postseason.
The guy has answered questions in a professional, team-first manner. He knows he is on the trade market and even addressed that before (he wanted to always be a Yankee, but it is a business).
Everyone keeps digging wanting to make drama where there isn’t any. A big to-do about him missing two days that weren’t even mandatory — which many players have missed. But to see it on another site called a “boycott” is one writer trying to generate clicks.
He’s going to get traded, but he’s been a good teammate and he’s prepping himself to be here.
At this point the Yankees will have to throw in Judge to get someone to take a trade for Stroman and that’s not gonna happen so they are in trouble
They wouldn’t have to go that far to get rid of him. They could simply eat some of his contract and kick over some decent prospects to maybe get a fair value in return. It’s just that they aren’t in the business of doing salary dumps because they don’t need to. Plus, even though he’s a flawed pitcher and at times is a little bit of a toxic personality, he has value in that he can start games. In an age when pitchers are constantly dropping due to injuries, having someone like Stroman around is important because he can eat innings and keep the team in the game sometimes.
I don’t know but i think n e one who wouldn’t be upset if they r going to lose out on 18 million dollars.
this article is a nothing burger as they used to say. nothing that we don’t already know. The Yankees want to trade him, they won’t spend any more money on a third base with that. They really need until they do, and nobody wants him. And his attitude does not help. End of story.
Even if the Yankees picked up 100% of his salary I think there would be very few takers…
Yes a people say his stats are average to good, but none will even come to the table for him…
Some on here say well he’s better than league average. With that said would you want him on your team?
Yes 202o was difficult, but he opted out and collected a salary… he is a POS
StroME not disappointing again. How is this ego case still in MLB?
If goal is just to get him out the jays owe Myles Straw 11m over 2 seasons. Yankees take Straw and his 11M and trade Stroman and 8M to the jays. The Yankees fix there problems and have a backup CF who can be sent to the minors NP plus the AAV values work out that the Yankees save 9M or so. Cleveland is covering some of Straws deal so I think it’s a 9-10M AAV vs Stromans 18
His stuff plays for someone who could be good every year, but I don’t like it playing in Yankee stadium 10-15 starts!?
Trade him for a tepid cup of urine
He is getting paid a large amount of money. Suck it up and add value. What BS. Get rid of him and trade him for a used piece of gum