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Giants’ Chairman Downplays Possibility Of Long-Term Deals For Free Agent Pitchers

By Steve Adams | November 7, 2025 at 12:27pm CDT

Giants president of baseball operations Buster Posey kicked off his team’s offseason last month by declaring that pitching would be his focus this offseason. That led to plenty of speculation about the possibility of the Giants being major players at the top end of the free-agent rotation market, but chairman/owner Greg Johnson threw some cold water on those hopes this week. In a Q&A with Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle, Johnson pushed back against the idea of a long-term deal for any pitcher this offseason and specifically called out a preference for shorter-term arrangements.

“We’re in need of one, possibly two [starting pitchers],” Johnson told Slusser. “We’ve got a lot of options in the organization and hopefully somebody emerges, but I’m not sure you can count on that at this point, and it’d be nice for some of those younger arms to get another year of experience in Triple-A as well. As Buster has said, I think we’re hesitant about any pitcher on long-term deals when we have a young core sitting there. So it’s a question of what is available in the marketplace and what we can do on a shorter term basis.”

Certainly, the definition of “shorter term” is subjective. That doesn’t mean the Giants will traffic exclusively in one-year contracts when looking to address the rotation. However, it seems quite clear that at least for the time being, ownership doesn’t have a strong appetite for the weighty long-term deals expected to be commanded by top free agent names like Framber Valdez, Dylan Cease and star NPB right-hander Tatsuya Imai (assuming Imai is ultimately posted for MLB clubs).

The Giants’ rotation is headed by ace Logan Webb. He’s followed by veteran Robbie Ray and 2025 breakout righty Landen Roupp. After that trio, free agent Justin Verlander — whom the Giants have interest in re-signing — was the only other San Francisco pitcher to start more than 10 games this season. The Giants thinned out their rotation depth this summer when trading longtime top prospect Kyle Harrison to the Red Sox as part of the Rafael Devers blockbuster.

As Johnson alluded to, the Giants have plenty of in-house options, but there’s no certainty among the group. Hayden Birdsong shined in the bullpen early on but struggled so much after a move to the rotation that the Giants optioned him to Triple-A. He was tagged for a 6.23 ERA in another 10 Triple-A starts. Right-handers Kai-Wei Teng and Trevor McDonald got looks late in the season, but the former struggled badly while the latter made only two MLB starts after posting a 5.31 ERA in 29 Triple-A outings. Prospect Carson Whisenhunt and deadline pickup Blade Tidwell have varying levels of upside but haven’t proven themselves in the majors yet. Righty Keaton Winn missed much of the season due to injury and was hit hard in Triple-A when healthy.

Both the trade and free agent markets offer plenty of rotation possibilities for Posey & Co. to explore. Seven of the top ten names on MLBTR’s list of the offseason’s top 40 trade candidates were starting pitchers. Another 16 starting pitchers cracked our Top 50 Free Agent list. Not all of the free agents will command long-term deals, and none of the trade candidates in question are signed beyond the 2028 season.

If the goal is to pursue shorter-term arrangements — presumably three or fewer years — the free agent market would have options like Merrill Kelly, Chris Bassitt, Nick Martinez, Zack Littell and Tyler Mahle, among others. A reunion with Verlander remains possible, and plenty have already pointed out the fact that new Giants skipper Tony Vitello coached Max Scherzer in college. Right-hander Cody Ponce set the single-season and single-game records for strikeouts in the Korea Baseball Organization this season and has drawn MLB interest. His brother-in-law is a plenty recognizable name in San Francisco: George Kittle.

Suffice it to say, there’s a wide array of options on the market even if the plan is to forgo lengthy commitments. An aversion to another long-term deal is somewhat understandable, given that the Giants have Devers signed through 2033, Willy Adames signed through 2031, Matt Chapman signed through 2030, Jung Hoo Lee signed through 2029, and Webb signed through 2028. That said, there’s room on the payroll for another hefty contract, particularly with Ray’s contract drawing to a close at the end of the 2026 season (thus subtracting a $25MM salary from the 2027 books).

At present, RosterResource projects the Giants for a payroll of roughly $170MM. That’d be right in line with last year’s Opening Day figure. That mark includes projected arbitration salaries for non-tender candidates Andrew Knizner, Joey Lucchesi and JT Brubaker. Dropping that trio would lower the projected mark, but only by a few million dollars. Still, the Giants trotted out an Opening Day payroll as high as $208MM just two seasons ago, in 2024. Johnson was amenable to raising payroll when asked by Slusser and even acknowledged that he’s comfortable crossing the $244MM luxury tax threshold “in the right situation.” The Giants’ current tax number sits just north of $193MM.

The rotation stands as just one area of need. San Francisco clearly has needs in the bullpen — Johnson acknowledged as much to Slusser — and has holes in the lineup at second base and in right field. Unless the team puts together a trade for one of its currently weighty contracts, the Giants will have to increase payroll to meet those needs. Of the contracts on the books, only Ray’s $25MM salary seems plausible to move. (The Giants aren’t going to consider trading Webb.) However, trading Ray would only further create a need for innings, making that scenario at least somewhat counterproductive.

One way or another, the Giants will need to add at least one starter (ideally two), multiple relievers and at least one bat (again, ideally two). It’s a long to-do list for Posey and general manager Zack Minasian — one that portends an active winter in the Bay Area.

Readers — Giants fans and otherwise — are highly encouraged to read the entire Q&A. It’s packed with candid comments from Johnson on a variety of topics, including his thoughts on the forthcoming implementation of the ABS challenge system, Posey’s first year on the job as president, and his early impressions of Vitello — among many other points.

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  1. Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can

    1 hour ago

    They might not sign a bunch of pitchers to big deals anymore, but trades can be made. Wondering if they’re going after Skubal. The aciest ace to ever ace, and he’s on a one year contract basically so it fits the short term commitment the Giants are willing to go for. Problem is, I don’t see Skubal as the one piece that will put SF over the top. They have a lot to do before they can climb up from .500, let alone take down the Dodgers and Padres.

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    • SalaryCapMyth

      50 mins ago

      I especially agree with your second statement. Second base and Catcher was a blackhole of production. The catching market is pretty slim and Bailey IS a gold glove quality player so I would think at least second base has to be addressed. I didnt see a no-brainer, up and coming second basemen in pipeline but maybe an informed Giants fan knows better than me.

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      • Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can

        42 mins ago

        As much as I love it when catchers can hit (one of my favorite players in recent years has been Cal Raleigh), it’s not a top priority as long as he’s good with the glove. Bailey is great as he is, and if his bat develops even a little bit that’s icing. He put up 3.2 fWAR just from playing elite defense! They do need a decent 2B, and a good hitting outfielder as well.

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        • SalaryCapMyth

          17 mins ago

          Huh..Baseball reference gives Bailey a WAR of 1.1. Usually there isnt that much disparity but I do see fangraphs as the better site for this.

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  2. Aoe3

    1 hour ago

    They should have signed Kevin Gausamn instead of letting him go to Toronto.

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    • GMoney28

      49 mins ago

      He’s been pretty mid the last 2 years. And generally 5 year deals to 30-year-old SP don’t work out too well

      They were prob especially weary knowing that he only has 2 pitches. Once the velo goes he’s done forever

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      • MuleorAstroMule

        6 mins ago

        Gausman has put up almost 20 fWAR in his four seasons of Toronto, made over 30 starts every year, and he’s only got one left. That contract was a win for the Jays no matter how you slice it and any team would have been happy to have his production at that price. Would you rather have Gausman at $22M a year or a reclamation project at $15M?

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      • SalaryCapMyth

        12 seconds ago

        You didnt look at his stats before you said this, did you.

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  3. James Midway

    1 hour ago

    I can see the hesitancy in signing a starter for a long term deal. I think anything over 4 years these days and it’s likely the starter will need TJ or some other procedure that will put them out for a season or more sometime in that time frame. You will be donating cash to that pitcher at some point. So I can see wanting to see what the minor guys can do or bringing in someone in on a 1-3 year deal.

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  4. Non Roster Invitee

    1 hour ago

    Short term deal screams Scherzer.

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    • oldgfan

      24 mins ago

      I’d rather roll the dice with Ponce on a 1-2 year deal. Just my opinion cuz Sherzer’s Australian Shepherd eyes creep me out.

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  5. azcrook

    1 hour ago

    Bring back Tyler Rogers

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  6. GMoney28

    46 mins ago

    The difference between a Framber/Cease type and a 5th starter is like 15% output (85 ERA/FIP- to 100)

    The difference between an elite bat like Tucker and an average COF is like 35% (140 OPS+ to 105)

    Always prioritize bats

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  7. chembry

    38 mins ago

    Eldridge and whatever else is needed for Joe Ryan. Benefits both teams.

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  8. Never Remember

    11 mins ago

    What a loser. Continued mediocrity for the foreseeable future but I guess they don’t care since making so much profit.

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