The Pirates are desperately in need of offense to support an excellent young pitching staff. General manager Ben Cherington said yesterday that the front office has “more flexibility than they’ve had in [any] other offseasons” since he was hired going into the 2020 season. That might enable them to make multiple additions from the middle tiers of free agency.
Mark Feinsand of MLB.com reports that the Bucs could commit between $30-40MM to their 2026 payroll. That’s at the higher end of what they’ve spent in previous offseasons. They spent narrowly above $30MM in free agency going into the 2023 and ’24 campaigns. That dropped to roughly $20MM last winter. They haven’t signed a multi-year free agent contract in nearly a decade. Their $10.5MM signing of Aroldis Chapman over the 2023-24 offseason is the only eight-figure free agent deal of the Cherington era.
Pittsburgh offloaded the remaining four years and $36MM on the Ke’Bryan Hayes contract in their deadline trade with Cincinnati. Dealing David Bednar to the Yankees subtracted an arbitration salary that MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz projects at $9MM. The Bucs have $30.5MM committed to Mitch Keller and Bryan Reynolds next season. They’re likely to spend somewhere between $12-15MM on their arbitration class. They opened this past season with a player payroll around $88MM, so it makes sense that they could add something like $30-40MM. That’d put them a little shy of this past season’s level before accounting for $10-15MM in minimum salary players to round out the roster.
The bigger factor may be whether the Pirates more aggressively pursue free agents on multi-year deals. Cherington told MLBTR’s Darragh McDonald in August that the Bucs have made multi-year offers over the years, but none have been accepted. They haven’t signed a free agent who rejected a qualifying offer since Francisco Liriano in 2014.
It’d register as a surprise if they break that trend for Gleyber Torres or Trent Grisham, though they theoretically have the payroll space to accommodate a three- or four-year deal for one of those players if they wanted to focus most of their resources into one acquisition. Ha-Seong Kim, Luis Arraez, Ryan O’Hearn and Harrison Bader are borderline two- or three-year deal candidates — none of whom was tagged with the QO. Mike Yastrzemski, Cedric Mullins and Max Kepler could sign one-year deals that are towards the higher end of what Pittsburgh has spent in prior offseasons.
It’s also possible the Bucs leverage their starting pitching on the trade market. Dealing Keller would knock another $16.5MM off the books while probably bringing back a mid-tier hitter or two. They could swap Mike Burrows or Thomas Harrington for a similarly controllable bat who has shown some promise. Cherington and his group can look at virtually every position for offensive help. Spencer Horwitz is set for the lion’s share of playing time at first base. Oneil Cruz will be somewhere in the outfield, probably center, while Reynolds is locked into right field. There’s virtually nothing else set in stone, though top prospect Konnor Griffin certainly projects as the long-term answer at shortstop.

Riveting!
In reality Nutting said Here’s 2 bucks Ben. Have fun but I want my change back
Both Ortiz and I have under $40M spent by the Pirates this offseason
Bet!
Wrong Ortiz lmao
Is that 40 mil for the total payroll?
It is awkwardly worded.
“Pirates have to spend that much to avoid a grievance”
Whoa whoa whoa, slow down there guys.
We already have one crazy spending team ruining baseball. We don’t need another one.
Could, or Should. How the title actually needs to read?
I say get Caissie from the Cubs and Casas from the Red Sox and sign Hoskins and or get Castellanos at $5M from the Phillies.
I could see Hoskins.
Hoskins would be good for the Pirates. Are you thinking a Casas/Hoskins platoon?
That might help. Not convinced Castellanos would help (still, the Pirates need all the offensive help they can get, so maybe). Good luck getting Caissie from the Cubs.
I was afraid that someone would say that about Caissie.
I was hoping that Keller alone would get him,but Caissie is in the top 50 prospects in MLB.
The Pirates can probably afford to trade him and Burrowes although the pitching depth would become slim.
I would trade Cruz if they could get somebody good for him.
Yes about the platoon.Both are brutal fielders but the Pirates have become better at that and desperately need hitting.
Horowitz would move to second and Gonzalez to short.
Castellanos would be a cheap RF at $5M and he is a better hitter than pretty much all of the Pirates unless Reynolds comes back strongly.I know that he covers ten square feet but he does not make errors and has a pretty good arm.
They could move Reynolds to LF because he throws rainbows now.
I am not convinced about Nick either but the cost would be cheap and Nick may be mad enough to have a good bounce back year.
The three new guys could alternate at DH.
I really do not think that Cutch will find a job especially with a contender.
Caissie’s minor league suggests K’s in excess of 200/600 ABs.
You use a 2 to 1 ratio so I guess if he gets 100 walks that is OK.
I was not aware of that because he would need 40 home runs to offset it and I am not sure that he has that much power.
Hoskins doesn’t fit at PNC. His power’s too fringy. He needs a park where left field is a chip shot.
I thought of that.But number one the Pirates need hitters and can get him cheap.He would alternate with Casas and start only 30% of the time at home.He could DH on the road if a righthander was pitching.It was not that long ago that he had prime power.That is what the Pirates desperately need.
They will not sign anyone to a long term contract and cannot afford the good players.They have to take chances.
At least it would show that they are trying.
2 of either Ashcroft, Oviedo or Bancroft for Casas, Tolle and Duran. Just my humble opinion
It will take 2 of those players just to get Casas or Duran.
You aren’t getting both, for what’s being offered.
While I don’t have any clue what it would take to get both. I do know Duran has more than double the value of Casas. So saying that package would get you one of the two doesn’t really add up to me.
Casas value is at a low point due to back to back years with injuries.
I honestly don’t think the Sox should trade Casas, because he is one of the few actual power threats in their lineup.
But they will do anything to avoid eating money on the Yoshida deal and trading him to open up the DH spot.
I agree about Duran, not so much about Casas. His value is pretty low with the injury history
I am not familiar with Tolle and I think that you may mean Burrowes but it may be a good trade to make.
So you have Ashcroft, and Bancroft (?) available. What about Sealsencroft?
Unproven pitchers for an All-Star OF, an 800+-OPS 1B making peanuts, and a kid with a 100-mph fastball?
As a Sox fan, I’d make that deal. For Hunter Greene.
What a joke.. The Pirate fans deserve better.
So do Angels fans.
“I don’t want you to get too excited, baby, but there’s an outside chance we can have McDonald’s for dinner.”
This is Bob Nutting speaking to Pirates fans.
thank u for explaining the joke
But is it a full meal or do Pirates fans have to settle for the $5 meal deal?
Enjoy the cheap coffee. Its really good, isn’t it?
You mean “cheap” in terms of the $5 bottles of water, right?
I have the power to offer jung, Malloy and a sweetener for Keller
Sold. How much for shipping and handling?
One autographed picture of liv dunne. Paul is not allowed to take the picture tho
You know? I kind of like this news. Anything that’s higher than the payroll they’ve had before sounds good to me.
I hope the Pirates actually spend $30-$40 million to improve their/your team.
Ownership has squandered a lot of talent over the years so they can have a bit more dollars
and they have the fans pay for it.
Putting $ back into the team would be a refreshing change.
Maybe I’m reading it wrong but it doesn’t read like a higher payroll than they had before. It reads more like the same payroll they had before but that’s how far below that they currently are.
The Pirates receive about 200m a year from revenue sharing which includes national tv money and other shared money.
That’s before any local tv money or other sources like attendance.
Somewhere in the 350m a year range. Yes that’s not a lot compared to the Yankees or dodgers but…even if they have operating costs in the 120-150m range that would still have the ability to afford at least a 120-150m payroll. They should be able have a payroll of close to double last years. Instead of 30-40m to spend it should be more like 100m to spend.
I’m all for the mlb figuring out some revenue parity but they also need to clamp down on teams like the pirates who abuse the system the other way. This is often the argument of the major market teams or at least their fans. It’s a very valid argument.
It’s completely unfair to any pirates fan or all the pirates fans they would have if they actually invested in their team.
I hate that the dodgers spend so much money but I don’t blame them for doing so. I wish my team could do the same. I do blame owners of teams like the pirates who purposely don’t hardly spend a dime.
Huge novel of your speculations with very few facts.
Fact you don’t know how much revenue the team generates.
Nobody knows the exact amounts but there is reporting that is likely pretty close.
We do know they are a revenue receiving team. We do know the amount of national tv sharing.
Hence me saying range. Not an exact number. There are several reports the team stores away profits like a chipmunk storing nuts for the winter.
Several reports paid by Scott boras
Well to each their own opinion.
I don’t think many will share your point of view. I believe most will side with the storing cash like a chipmunk.
ThatsIT? is 100% related to Bob Nutting or the VERY rare Bob Nutting empathizer
Doesn’t matter how much the Bucs generate. With revenue sharing it only matters how much the Dodgers/Yankees/etc generate
Huge novel? A few paragraphs strain your capacity to read? Wow.
All teams put in 48% of their revenue into a pile of leaves and the weakest ones jump in like a labradoodle in heat.
Nutting is the labradoodle, btw
That line about the novel always seems to upsets the simpletons
It’s simple with Nutting.
He is a businessman first and foremost.
I did a quick comparison with the Braves two years ago and it seemed to me that Nutting was taking home $50-60M a year .The key is the supposed current team value of $1.1 B which shows a return of about 5% per year.
He has made 10% annually on the value of his investment.
I have looked at the other small market teams over the last twenty years and their payrolls only go up when they have contending teams.The only outlier is the Brewers who have enough money to pay Rhys Hopkins $36 M for the last two years.
The key for any of them is to have a good developmental system.
For pitchers- A. For hitters- F for the Pirates
Nutting will spend money like the other small market teams and cut into his annual profit but it has to make a difference in the team record and only when he has a good team.
Cherington has not provided a good team.
It will be very interesting if he spends $100-110 M this year.
All the owners are businessmen first and foremost. I think only one of them actually made their money from baseball, the Steinbrenners.
If Nutting spends $110MM this season that will be the biggest investment of his life.
But since there will probably be a strike in 2027 I just don’t see Bob investing TOO much in this season.
Is it really higher than before though? “Could spend $30-$40m” this offseason just brings them up to the same payroll area as last year. If they had an opening day payroll of $88m last year and are projected at $66m at the moment, that’s $33m difference. If they only spend $30m, payroll went down by $3m. If they are saying they are getting a $30-$40m budget increase, then you have more like $60-$70m to spend and you can do real work with that.
That was terrible math on my part. $22m, not $33m. Still, it’s hardly a notable budget increase.
The Pirates could commit 30-40 mil but won’t.
It is possible. I’d have to look at the FA list, but i could see two 1yr deals for $10-12M each, then the usual dumpster diving in late Feb to spend another $6-8M on a handful of bums. That will get the spending over $30M
Why is everyone in baseball fixated with the pirates spending more money on payroll? They aren’t ever going to win until they learn how to develop the players they draft.
If the guy running the team can’t draft and develop why should he be allowed to spend 30 or 40 more million for what? To win 74 games instead of 70.
I can pick out 30 million of random mlb players and the pirates wouldn’t win a single game more nor would a single fan more show up because they spent 30 more million.
Wow! This guy might really be Bob Nutting!!!
How about because they are a PROFESSIONAL team. If Nutting wants to perpetually rebuild and have occasional young NLB talent on roster he should have bought a MiLB team.
To continuously pump out weak fostered teams its a disservice to the game, to fans, and to opposing owners and teams whose product hes diminishing.
Im all for teams rebuilding when necessary. But that should only be with intent of actually building a contender, not to pilfering $ and maybe stumble upon a couple competitive seasons.
Spend more money on guys who’ll have trade value at the deadline and trade them for players mostly developed by other teams?
ThasIT-Please do not use rational thought nuanced by facts for most in this crowd do not comprehend them.
Nutting is cheap and cares about the bottom line but most of these owners do too.
Anyone who thinks that he takes in $100 M every year is crazy.
Where he really makes his money is in the value of the investment.
He really should ramp it up this year though at least to give fans and players and management hope.He has the pitching staff now that could win with some hitters.
Cherington has basically been a failure.But now he also needs more money to spend.
I am just afraid that if makes any major trades that they will turn out like his others.
Rational thought?? The guy does not even spend the amount he receives in revenue sharing, hes a joke and should be forced to sell the team if hes not going to put an honest effort towards making the franchise competitive.
Yes all the owners aim to profit as with any other business. If very owner took Nutting’s approach MLB as we know it would not longer be the premier professional league. A select few get to purchase pro sports franchises. Yes they should aim to profit but they should also be held to some standard to maintain and ensure teams are aiming to be truly competitive.
Tigers-You have a jaundiced outlook.
How do you know what Nutting spends money on?
Have you ever done any sort of even semi in depth analysis or do you just spout from the mouth?
Who are you or for that matter Jeff Passan to tell the Pirates what they need to do with Paul Skenes for the good of baseball?
Utter arrogance.
What if I told you that the Tigers should trade Skubal to the Yankees or Mariners to allow a very good team to overcome the Dodgers next year for the good of baseball?The Tigers have a good team now but if they cannot beat the Guardians out how are they going to beat the Mariners or the Yankees or the Dodgers?
I explained about the need to have at least a good team to augment with free agents which is one that Nutting’s GM Cherington has not produced.
How are the rich teams going to follow Nutting’s lead to destroy baseball?They do not have to because they are making money hand over fist.
MLB is a failed commodity until all teams are placed on an equal footing like the other three smarter leagues which have all greatly increased their share of the sports pie at the expense of baseball over the last fifty years.
Nutting will spend more money if Cherington or his successor provides a good team.He will not be even at the Brewers level but he will move up the list.Good free agents will not want to sign with Pittsburgh until it seems that they can win games.It is a never ending cycle.
The key with any small market team is to provide fine scouting and development systems and the Pirates have failed at the latter regarding hitting.
Until then the naysayers like you will be complaining about any owner who hoards the good players.
I did not say what Nutting should do. I said pro teams should be required to put an honest effort towards being a competitive franchise.
And I do not know what Utting does with his $. I do not what he does not do much of, and thats spend on the Pirates….
I can agree with what you said there.
Ok, so that definitely means they’ll trade Keller for Ward.
Frustrating organization! What a wasted year with Skenes winning the Cy Young. They desperately needed offense year after year.
As a true underdog I always root for them. Hopefully they can get 3 solid bats this off season. Won’t be all stars for the money they want to pay but at least solid regulars will help. Cmon guys help the good pitching staff out
Well they can’t sign Michael A. Taylor to a multi-year deal because he retired. So maybe Tommy Pham for a two-year and extend Cutch out one more year. If there’s anything left perhaps Rowdy Tellez to a Minor League deal with an invite to Spring Training. That should about cover it.
I hope you are being sarcastic, but, unfortunately, you may be accurate.
Ignorant- I hope that you are wrong but I would not bet on it.
That would be a clerical error for the Dodgers.
This is so sad I had to laugh.(sad face – emoticons don’t offer a sad face)
Well I hope they do and aren’t just blowing smoke.
Replace the word “could” with “won’t” and you have an article that makes sense.
If their ceiling per player is what they spent on Chapman, or just for the sake of argument let’s say a little more at $12 million, you have to go down the Top 50 list on this site to #49 catcher Victor Caratini to find a hitter that might be a fit. Then #50 Willi Castro. You could stretch it and say they might be able to sign #34 Luis Arraez for 2/24. Even if they signed 2 of those 3 and blew their wad, would they be even close to a .500 team?
If they spend $40 million more that will still get them only $2 million over the century mark.
Why are being so cruel with facts?
Just find a three team trade to send Skenes and Reynolds to the Dodgers and Keller to the third team to bring back 6 or 7 top 100 prospects at this point and clear all of your payroll at this point. This team is completely pathetic and Skenes should be SCREAMING to get out.
I don’t think the Dodgers could put together the BEST package of prospects for Skenes, but they would be competitive.
I have little doubt the dodgers could put together the best package for Skenes if they include some of the major league spare parts.
The thing is the dodgers could trade away their entire farm and not miss a single one of them. Other teams really can’t do that. Then you add in guys like rushing, Sheehan, Páges along with some others that have years and years of control. No other team could make such an offer. The Dodgers won’t offer all that but they could definitely offer more than anyone else.
Milwaukee has the top farm system. Never thought about it but that would be a wild trade.
Simm-The truth is though that they do not need Skenes and for the price in prospects that they would have to pay for him.
@Jeremy Every evaluator is a bit different…I have mainly seen Tigers or Mariners in the first slot. However safe to say they’re all Top 5.
But do they?
The return for Skenes would have to include a number of highly rated prospects mostly near to MLB and/or MLB pieces. Only 2 of the Top 10 rated prospects from BAs last ranking have reached AA, only 1 from BPs just released 10. Not sure that’s enough.
Then you add in all the guys that have made their mlb debut and you have the mlb ready guys who have tons of control left. You fill in those along with prospects and no team is beating that potential offer.
An only prospect deal then you maybe right. When you add in potential guys who have 4-5-6 years of control left that aren’t prospects along with prospects. I don’t see another team that can match that without damaging their major league team. The Dodgers can do so and never feel the damage because of their endless stack of cash. Perhaps only the Yankees could say the same.
NY-Correct- And the Pirates for once need ML ready players or ML players.
Dodgers don’t want Reynolds. They need to improve their outfield defense.
TGO-That is because they can also afford to have the best scouting,management,and developmental staffs in baseball too.Everyone wants to work for a winner.
Now he was a great player.
Frustrating for him but Skenes isn’t going anywhere. He may become very unhappy there unless they start building a team around him as he is locked up til 2029.
Bucco fans deserve so much better than this. Cheap owner after cheap owner has destroyed the fans’ love of what was once one of the great teams in the National League, and I’m not even a Pirates fan. The ballpark is among the very best, but it’s hard to spend money to see them lose, time after time after time. Is there no billionaire out there with the itch to win a World Series for the ‘burgh? Not one?
Disheartening story, to say the least.
Facts
Mark Cuban was said to have interest but Nutting has zero intention on selling. Gonna leave the franchise to his daughters which they can then use for kindling.
That was yearssssssss ago
Zippy-No one stupid enough to think that they could win a World Series without consistently spending like Cohen and losing money every year.
So the answer is to just give up? That’s not fair to the community that spent $210 million in taxes just to get the park built. (That’s close to $400 million in today’s dollars.) Seems like the public, which never benefits from a new stadium, got it in the shorts once again. The team of Honus Wagner, Roberto Clemente, Willie Stargell, Paul Waner, Arky Vaughn, Ralph Kiner, Pie Traynor, Dave Parker, and even to a large extent, Andrew McCutcheon is doomed to failure forever because the owner is a skinflint?
Yeah, pretty much. Only one small market team has won the WS in the last 30 years and even that team usually spends way more than Bob.
Zippy- Pirates have a rich history.When I was a kid in the 1960’s they had the third best NL record(out of eight teams),but that was a very long time ago.
One small market team has won the World Series since 1991,the Royals in 2015.
That is a rate per team of once every 250 years.
Many Pirate fans just want them to have a winning team for a 3-4 year long period and contend for the playoffs like the 2013-2015 teams did while the mega money teams win the World Series.
This is the present state of ML baseball Zippy.
30-40 million in monopoly game money?
Pitchers , especially LHPs, want to sign in Pittsburgh since it’s a severe pitchers park. Would be a great destination for Jordan Montgomery to restore value.
I like that idea
Maybe true but starting pitching isn’t the Pirates main problem so not where they should throw their limited resources.
Nutting purchased then developed the area around PNC Park to help the community in terms of economic growth
The economic growth largely depends upon the attendance at PNC Park
That said, one of the ways to improve the attendance is putting a competitive team on the field at home games. Attendance fell last season because the team stunk offensively. I believe Cherington’s job will be on the line unless the team improves enough to increase attendance
‘26 is the last year of his contract
I see them spending more money to make this team competitive in ‘26
Careful, you’re gonna get Richard and the Nutting apologists pointing to fans as the culprits here.
Nutting sees the development of the area around PNC and gimmicks like pierogi races and dress-as-your-favorite-Star-Wars-character nights and bring your hamster to the ballpark nights as cheaper options than signing or trading for talent
My hamster which I lost several years ago in PNC Park I am confident is getting fat on junk food dropped throughout the stadium.
I just am happy that I did not lose him in The Vet when it had legions of feral cats living in the bowels of the stadium.
You do realize kids/families come to games because of the stuff that is beneath you, right???
A damn shame to have a top 10 pitching staff and not a sniff of a chance for the post season by July.
It may very well be in the top five next year.
That’s probably if they trade Keller and use his 16 million. For a team spends nothing they are covered a lot in the off season
Just trade Keller and Skenes and be done with it lol. MLB should just give them and the Rays an extra first round draft pick. They’re basically a farm system for the league, might as well embrace it versus wining about it.
Rays I agree with, but the Bucs are not a farm system. Vast majority of the players who came out of Pittsburgh don’t last with other teams.
Gerrit Cole, J Taillon, J Musgrove, T Glasnow, D Bednar, etc. disagree
Wow. 5.
I’ll give you a few more to help you out. Marte, Holmes, McCutchen, Morton… Nope, I take Morton back, we didn’t develop him. Didn’t develop Musgrove either.
Not a huge list over the last 15 years, is it???
GWA- The Brewers were even a farm system for the GM and manager.
All small market teams are in essence farm systems for the wealthy teams.
They’ve had better players though
Because most were better teams who had more to lose.
The Rays provide the continuing blueprint for success of smaller market teams:
-get bonafide younger talent
-develop
-keep bringing in young talent while previous classes evolve and have subsequent success at MLB level
-trade when their contracts demand more than they wish to spend
-bring next class up
-repeat
They’ve done quite well with this plan. As have the Brewers, who aren’t afraid to augment their young talent with a trade or signing of a legit MLB player
The Pirates have failed miserably in drafting and developing position players. How can a GM say they’ve developed no impact position player after 6 years under a GM?
Unfair to TB to make such a pronouncement
What have the Rays won?
What
Bob-I think that his point is that the Rays are generally competitive and have reached the World Series twice in the last 17 years.
But you are correct- no World Series wins.
Then again,only the Royals of the small market teams have won the WS since 1991,
It’s not about “what have they won”
If that’s the bottom line of your argument, you’re sadly misguided where Pirates fans are concerned
More often than not, they’re competitive.
That’s the bottom line.
They may chase the division crown, it may be a WC berth
It’s a helluva lot more than what we have
And when the Pirates went to the playoffs three years in a row it still wasn’t enough. Pirates fans said so.
Apples and oranges. Most Pirates fans want a winner, sure, but would support a team that competes hard and leaves it all out on the field
Hustle. Hate of losing. They could be around .500 in this way of thinking and they’d endear themselves to locals
Instead, we have Cruz now. And had Hayes. Two guys who epitomize the idea of being “me”
players
But yeah. Great analogy
We have to be like the Brooklyn Dodgers who won only one World Series and that was in 1955 about 45 years after they started playing.
They used the term “wait til next year” every year.
The problem is with the Pirates that next year never comes.
It is not about denigrating Pirate fans in any way. It is about The Rays trading players and replacing them with less expensive but equally productive players , and the question I have is “what exactly have they won?” I believe it’s a fair question to ask.
No, I get that. And it depends on your perception, I guess. At the very least, the Rays develop kids. Draft well, and fit them into the blueprint. They compete in most years
The Pirates haven’t developed any position players and are annually out of contention by mid-May
Philly-I always thought that if they do not institute a salary cap that the lowest record teams should get an extra first round of draft choices immediately after their own and the big market teams would not get any.
That is probably thinking too far out of the box for them though.
Probably need to focus on your aging Phillies who have spent their way into a corner
They will spend even more while Harper is there.
The minor leagues are not real bountiful so the window is quickly closing.
They will spend their funny money on Schwarber and Realmuto because they do not have a lot of options.
What would be a mistake though is to give them both too many years.
I don’t trust Cherington to spend the money wisely. They will all be one year deals to guys whose best years are well in the past.
If it’s one year deals it’s because of Nutting and not because of BC
I don’t trust Cherington to make any trades though.
I hear ya. But Huntington didn’t do well either.
We finally have a great surplus of arms and we’ll probably fail on these trades too. It’s the Bucs way.
Huntington was bad his first three years then became a very fine trader.
He must have received as much as he could for Cole and the Archer trade was misguided from the start but they had a chance in 2018 and still had a fine outfield.
Glasgow was not doing anything.Meadows was somewhat superfluous.Baz was an unknown.
But three young talented players for one veteran with his best years behind him was doomed to failure.
I disagreed with Huntington here. You don’t trade away guys who may mature into stars for a so-so pitcher who might have 7 or 8 starts for a WC run
Glasnow alone was too much to pay. Meadows had a couple of incredible seasons before his anxiety issues. And Baz?
Too high of a cost for just a starter.
Especially one player who is a pitcher as any chance that he had to help was wiped out by his injuries.
Further evidence as to why a salary cap should come with a salary floor.
Need to add a zero behind that.
So one Paul Skenes extension. Got it.
MLB needs a Salary Cap AND a floor. I don’t know if it will help keep the same teams out of post season playing October baseball, I don’t think it can hurt?
Trying to make their payroll look a little better before the lockout negotiations next off-season
Truth!
Isn’t the “lockout” idea hilarious? Like we are talking about ownership versus the labor union down at the local plant. Sheesh
Spoiled billionaire owners and millionaire players. It’s sickening
Yaz signs and goes to RF, Reynolds moves to LF with Cruz in the middle. Griffin to the big club ASAP! Still have to figure out catching, Davis or Bart going forward?
The kid they got from the Yankees is probably the better hope. Bart had his one nice surprise of a season and returned to form last year
I know Henry hasn’t hit in the MLB, I wonder tho if he would bring anything back in a trade scenario?
They messed with his head so badly here for a couple years that it wouldn’t surprise me if he finds all the parts in a new place.
It’d be the Pirates luck to trade Davis for little, he gets real advice from a good hitting coach and becomes another Cal Raleigh.
would bring anything back in a trade scenario?
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As a RS fan, I can send you Casas. Both probably need a new start. Or at least include both as throw-ins. Davis is one of the worst development jobs, outside of Adell, that I’ve ever seen.
Not sure how much hitting talent Henry has although he has made himself inro a fine catcher.
The Pirates really failed with Suwinski as he was a good hitter for two years with power and then suddenly he cannot hit anymore.
I always thought Casas had good power which is what the Pirates need and from what you say they may be able to get him for an upper medium level prospect.
Reynolds in LF??? He can barely cover RF. Move him to DH and get a better OF, please.
He has gone downhill a lot in the field and I think that what you mean is that there are a lot more balls hit to left field but he has a bad arm and a good one is critically important to a right fielder.
If free agents are turning down your offers, trade for guys already making money so that you aren’t surrendering the prospects you want to keep. Look into Taylor Ward, Brandon Lowe, Randy Arozarena, Christian Walker, Alec Bohm, Sean Murphy etc.
I don’t know if Murphy is really available, but if not him, go get a field general. See if you can beat Cleveland to Austin Hedges or something along those lines. Make a decision on which one of those former top catching prospects is still worth trying to develop in a timeshare and move on from the others. Or option them for the ones that still have minor league options. You have young pitching here and now with more arriving soon. Give them a veteran behind the plate.
Absolutely! Murph or Realmuto would be great additions behind the plate! J.T. is a FA, Murph is getting less playing time in Atl with Baldwin getting the ABs. Would Atl pay down some of Murph’s salary in a trade? Davis could go to Atl as a back-up catcher.
Polanco as a free agent signing would be a great start also
If the Bucs trade Skenes, they damn well better get something huge, an MLB tested player that’s ready to rock immediately in return. Otherwise, the little attendance that the Pirates currently have will go down to nothing,
Bucs fans didn’t really turn out for Skenes either, except for his bobblehead night.
@rond They wouldn’t think of trading Skenes but rest assured, if they did, they would get a kings ransom for him. Few teams would have (or offer) what it would take to pry him away.
If the Pirstes ownership wants to have even a shred of credibility they will build around him in earnest this off season. They won’t spend a lot but getting 2 or 3 better bats would help.
I could see a Paul Goldschmidt caliber being a fairly good fit. He is still putting up decent numbers and a contract with him would be under 10mil. It’s one idea anyways that would be a small upgrade and a step in the right direction that may put a few more fans in the seats
As Pirates fans, we’ve become accustomed to these types of articles each off season. They might do this. They might do that
Last year at this time, it was a natural assumption that with the emergence of Skenes and Jones and with Keller here, they were bound to add hitting. And we got Pham and Frazier
The only goosing Cherington may feel is this rumor that Skenes may wish to be a Yankee.
Otherwise, forgive my skepticism in saying they’ll again add lower tier types who’ll do little to push the needle forward. And committing $30-40m in this era?
We can only hope that Griffin continues his meteoric rise through the farm and a couple of guys who’ve shown real promise are the real deal as the ascend the ladder
I “could” buy a Mercedes tomorrow
I definitely won’t, but I “could”
We’ll believe it when the contracts are written and signed
Could, but won’t
as long as the system keeps allowing it, There will be teams that want money but not being competitive.
This won’t age well.
If this article is accurate, it would be a major help for the Pirates to seek better FA’s then in recent years. The big question is when are they actually going to offer Skenes a long term contract? Based on his first 2 seasons and all of these other teams in the MLB signing young stars to long term contracts there hasnt been any reports of the Pirates making an offer to their Cy Young winner. You cant build a possible team to contend and entice FA’s to come to Pittsburgh if you dont have the face of the team and league signed long term.
They may have already offered him a longer term deal, and if so Paul turned it down because he knows he can make bank in arbitration.
no matter what they do .. it won’t be enough
She’s 68 but she says she’s 54. Yeah I don’t wanna work on Maggie’s farm no more.
But what if a simple twist of fate leaves you tangled up in blue?
They’ll stone you when you’re at the breakfast table
They’ll stone you when you are young and able
Yeah, all the criminals in their coats and their ties, are free to drink martinis, and watch the sunrise
Oooooh that’s a good one. But with Dylan you can hit the Shuffle button and any random song that comes up will have a killer line in it. It’s a plethora of riches. Wow.
Idiot Wind blowing every time you move your jaw…from the Grand Coulee Dam to the Mardi Gras
Try imaging a place where it’s always safe and warm, “Come in,” she said, “I’ll give ya shelter from the storm”
The day they blew out the brains of the king, thousands were watching, no one saw a thing
People like Sparky1000 just don’t get it. The Pirates won’t commit to a payroll that high.
Keep dreaming on a Skenes trade as he won’t be going anywhere.
What it would take to pry him away from the Pirates would make the past Soto haul look like chump change.
“I don’t get it?” What a pleasant thing to say.
Still not enough! Payroll should be 120m