Eric Gagne has been granted his release by the Dodgers, tweets Dylan Hernandez of the Los Angeles Times. Gagne's contract included an out-clause, though he initially accepted his demotion to the minors last week.
The Dodgers signed the 34-year-old to a minor league deal in mid-February. Gagne was set to earn $500K if he managed to break camp with the team and up to $500K in incentives. The Rockies also offered Gagne a minor league contract around the same time.
Gagne's last stint in the majors was with Milwaukee in 2008, where he posted a 5.44 ERA with 7.4 K/9 and 4.3 BB/9 in 46.1 innings.
Well there goes the comeback. I was thinking that this would happen due to his poor performance this spring but at least he attempted the comeback.
Whatever happens he still holds the saves streak record.
The end of a legend…
since when are true legends juiced/using HGH?
i didnt say he was a clean legend… but he is a legend, whether you like it or not. I wouldnt be surprised if no one EVER goes 84 straight
gee I wonder what enabled him to do that in the first place…
Gee, I wonder what got Bonds to hit over 700 homeruns, Sosa to hit 60+ hrs in one season.. Yea, he did roids. But he is still a legend. A Dodger legend and a baseball legend. Is it tainted? Absolutley. Did he STILL close 84 straight, yes
Whatever makes you feel better.
It’s not like the roids granted him a 120mph fastball or anything. Put an asterisk by it and move on.
You cheer/cheered for Manny and Papi in Bos. You know that Manny is a Boston legend because he brought you a title, your first in 80 years. Guess what, it was steroid aided. Did it not happen just because it was roid-aided? Manny will be remembered as the center of the lineup that brought Boston their first titles in 80 years. Gagne will be remembered for 84 straight. Not only for LAD, but for all of baseball.
They will both go down as legends for different things, roids or not… I dont see what your big problem is. If this is going to become a ‘were they good for the game’ conversation, then it’s pointless. But until something is magically erased from all our minds, it still happened. And no, they cannot wipe the books of these titles/accomplishments. There are too many records that have been steroid aided to wipe it..
Most of you guys have only been fans during the Steroid era. Gange is not a legend, he is a cheater. But so was Bud Selig and Major league baseball. Speaking of Bonds since you mentioned him the steroids made his head look the size of zenyattas head a true race horse.
EVERYONE WAS A CHEATER! Everyone. Does that mean we pretend it didnt happen and ignore everything they did. Im sorry, but you have to have SOME talent to hit 762 homeruns, 60 HR in a season, save 84 straight, etc. They will be remembered for what they did, and, for Gagne and Bonds, will be remembered as legends for holding such amazing records..
It Never happened before or after so what does that tell you. Bonds was a 16 to 33 home run a year guy,Check out his numbers with the giants they went crazy, and never in the history of baseball does a guy hit that many home runs or pulls the ball down the line like bonds did in his late 30`s not even Ted Williams and Gange was almost out of baseball. You are entitled to your opinions but these players would never have put up there numbers without steroids. They cheated, they took the money, they basked in there fame but they are still cheats.I doubt in my lifetime if I will ever see Bonds voted in the hall of fame. Gange could get one or two batters out at most then he would get lit up like an outdoor decorated christmas tree. Mantle, Mays, McCovey, killebrew, frank robinson none of those guys ever used steroids. The pitching was better in those days yet these guys got there numbers by being steady for a long time. The pitching mounds were two inches higher, hitters did not wear batting gloves. Babe ruth hit more home runs during a season then some whole teams.
How can you assume that none of those guys did steroids, or
the equivalent of them? Guys have always taken ‘vitamins’. What were in those
vitamins… they probably didn’t even know. Especially when talking about
players who played in the 80s or 90s, I wouldnt be surprised if they did
Anyways, that’s not the point. My point is what do you call
this 20 year era? Act like it didn’t happen? Pretend Bonds didnt hit 762 HRs.
Even if you say wipe the records, you simply cannot wipe out the cheaters
because we are always finding out new guys who did roids. Hell, last year we
had Papi, Arod and Manny all get discovered. Then the argument becomes
“well how much did they help him, and how long did he use them.” It
is impossible to that unless you literally pretend decades of baseball never
You can look at these guys however you want, it’s your
opinion. Im just saying that you cant pretend it didnt happen. And if someone
clean had gotten those records, you’d be saying there is no way those guys
Sosa had 60 homeruns 3 times I believe. That’s impressive as crap in itself, though aided by roids.
The same thing that enabled Manny and Papi through their incredible runs. Please.
since eric gagne!
Legend? Babe Ruth, Hank Aaron, Ted Williams, and Willie Mays are legends. Gagne is not a legend.
Assuming no one goes for 85 straight saves, will Gagne be remembered in 40 years? Yea. Lets face it, he had one of the best 3 run stretches a reliever has EVER had. Like it or not, he will go down as a legend.
Just because he is remembered for something, doesnt make him a legend. Sorry but he is not a legend.
being remembered for something and having a record that no one will likely ever touch are completley different. On the same field, is Bonds not going to be a legend because he juiced to get to 762. I doubt people will magically forget him, and he will be remembered, whether he should have that record or not. Gagne destroyed the previous record by a mile. He will be a legend for it, sorry
Denny McClain is the last person to win 30 games, is he a legend?
30 wins… 84 straight saves. One great year, 3 seasons of domination. Then consider that wins are probably the worse stat to base a pitcher on, and you have a very poor argument.
3 years of domination does not make a player a legend sorry but it doesnt. Neither does 1 year, I only asked about McClain to see if you thought he was. I mean come on your putting Gagne in the same class as Babe Ruth, Ted Williams or Willie Mays. Its just not right.
What Gagne did was simply amazing. It was. 84 saves with an ERA under two I believe. He won a CY as a closer… not many have done that, especially now a days.
You are correct that he isnt on the same level as Ruth, Williams or Mays. Those guys were once in every 20 generations talent. But just because he wasnt on the same level with the very best legend(that is what I consider Ruth to be), does that make him not a legend all together? I dont think so..
Ok lets just leave it as that. You think he is. I dont. No point in argueing any more, You cant convince me and I cant convince you.
what a hater you are. just he isnt a great yankee doesnt mean hes not a legend. the man won a cy as a closer. i bet you think mariano is a legend though huh?
You dont have to be a Yankee fan to know Rivera is a legend. Silly comparison. He is the best closer of all time.
Last time I checked, Ted wasn’t on the Yankees.
boo gagne. good riddance
darn I wanted to watch him here in Albuquerque and throw syringes on the field
The real life canadian kenny powers.
He is not a legend, just a below average pitcher who juiced his way into the record, books. Glad his career crashed & burned so early.
That’s funny, thousands of players juiced yet none of them broke Tom Gordon’s save record or shattered it like Gagne. How many of those players that juiced won a Cy Young? Duh he cheated, but he had very good skill.
There were hundreds of players juicing. To single out a few players and rip them is BS. Every team was tainted in some way. That being said Gagne was a monster. As a Giants fan I hated it when he came in the game, but a baseball fan he was sure fun to watch.
Hated the Dodgers…. but was he ever dominant. Good Lord.
With Street possibly going on the DL, maybe the Rox want another bullpen hand around. Not saying he would be the closer but still. If he does well then keep him around but if not (most likely), release him.
Gagne had good stuff before juicing – he just couldn’t cut it as a starter – partially because of control issues. He was a Baseball America top 50 at one point before breaking in.
Point being that the juice may have helped him recover from arm problems in his early career, may have even helped him perform a bit better and with more consistency, but he was always a good prospect. His early struggles were control related, and I’m not convinced that juice helps a guy stop throwing 7 walks per 9.
I enjoyed watching the guy play – he was the best reliever I’ve ever seen.
“His early struggles were control related, and I’m not convinced that juice helps a guy stop throwing 7 walks per 9.”
This is me talking out of my anus, but wouldn’t the added arm strength from the juice allow him to throw harder with control as opposed to trying to muscle a ball over the plate?
I wish someone would throw $500,000 at me and call it a day…
It’s always fun to read Dodger fans reactions to their roiders after years of Bonds bashing…
Just following the Giants fan’s lead of them doing the same.
As we all knew you guys would…even though you all denied it for sooooo long.
I was done with that argument long ago. When you can’t trust Jay Gibbons, who can you trust?
Matt Herges should ask for a refund
Herges, damn, that guy made his way all around the NL West. By the time he made it to Colorado I think it was time for a trip to the clinic, haha.
As a Brewers fan, I was hoping to see at least one of our two disgraced former star relievers (Turnbow and this guy) make something of himself, but I guess it’s over for both of them now.
well, if the dodgers will not guarantee him a chance to make the big leagues with a minor league contract, it’s difficult to see other teams doing the same, especially if he wants an out-clause, because his demands for a big league contract suggests his desperation to return to the big leagues. So, if nothing comes into fruition with a major league team, he needs take his chances in a new league to resurrect his diminished skills, such as japan.
I could see a team taking him on in the majors, but they won’t be a team that is contending that’s for sure. Maybe the Padres or someone to that extent.