Andy Martino of the New York Daily News writes that the Mets are unlikely to make any moves for pitching via trade or free agency, and specifically adds that the Mets are not interested in Jarrod Washburn.
If it seems a bit early for such discussions, that is largely due to the travails of John Maine, whose fastball velocity is way down, while his ERA is way up. After allowing seven earned runs in three innings last night, Maine faces a do-or-die start on Sunday night against the Cardinals, according to Newsday's David Lennon.
Another reason for New York's reluctance to reach outside the organization is a lack of attractive external options, though should the team climb into contention, a partial-season deal with Pedro Martinez could be considered.
I hope you realize that Jarrod Washburn is not what the Mets need either, so why would they be interested? They need a #2, not a #4. Seriously, no Mets fan is dying to have Jarrod Washburn. Time to make Mejia a starter again?
That may be true, but the Mets aren’t going to find a #2 starter in the middle of April.
Obviously. They could have had one, but they missed their chance.
takahashi can probably step up and fill his role if need be. no point in signing/trading for another #4/#5 when they already have a ton of those guys available.
The mets rotation is good enough for now
lawl.
Good rotation
NYM GET: Matsuzaka,Lowell(BOS eat 9M salary), Beltre,Felix Doubront ,Josh Reddick
BOS GET:Wright,Feliciano,Tatis
How about this?
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wow, in your f’in dreams
Joke, right?
You gotta be kidding!
Wait till the off season and sign Cliff Lee!
probably. they need him. badly….
but i think its gonna take like 10year/2billion to play for the mets.
haha, maybe.
I just don’t think anyone is worth going after on the free agent or trade market. That may change as the deadline approaches though. I’m thinking Peavy or Oswalt? Still, at that point, I would recommend not giving up the farm and just wait till Free Agency next year. They really screwed up by not getting Lackey.
Lackey isn’t worth 82million.
The mets, suprisingly, didn’t miss the boat on him. Not when 82mil can get you..say…jorge de la rosa+ ted lilly next year
He isn’t, but he was going to get that much, at least, from any team because he was the best FA pitcher this year, albeit in a very weak pitching market. So financially speaking, you’re right, they will get a lot more bang for their buck next year, but it will be at the cost of having a poor rotation this year.
Why Peavy? He aint going anywhere.
If the White Sox fall out of contention, he will be the first person they’ll try to move. Peavy is signed for 3-4 years for at least 15m per.
I don’t see them making the playoffs for the next few years with the Twins fielding the team they have. And it’s pretty much a guarantee that one of the AL East teams will snag the wild card.
just wondering..how is toyota igarashi doing? i remember the mets got him for 2year/3million and i thought it was a good deal. but i got blasted because people kept going off on how bad omar minaya is when it really wasn’t that bad of a deal.
Why is warthen still the pitching coach? he comes here and the pitchers either have their worst seasons (Pelfrey), getting hurt (Johan), or both (Maine and Ollie). Im not sure what hes doing, but its not good at all
Seriously, what is with all of the man-love for Jarrod Washburn? Is he the only pitcher left in baseball? First, I hear he’s still “recovering” from surgery. My understanding is that even “if” he signs, he will not be available until mid-season AND the fun part is, he hasn’t faced a major league batter at all since the surgery last year so you have a seriously unknown question about if he’ll be effective at all if you take the risk and sign him (and paying him millions of dollars). Also, something else to consider, let’s face it, some teams can be out of the pennant race by the end of April (I’ll resist the urge to name Houston and Baltimore specifically) so signing a higher priced veteran may not be a good move for some teams. AND- if you are in the pennant race where a game or two might decide if your going to the play offs or not, at this point would you trust Jarrod Washburn with the ball every 5th start if your season’s on the line? Just my thoughts…
The Mets just need to trade some of those utility players and one of their crappy starters (Perez) for a decent #2. I think somebody like Aaron Harang or Bronson Arroyo would do the job just fine. Peavy would be great, but I don’t think that will happen.
How does trading utility players and crappy starters net then a #2 pitcher?
I think just because they are the Mets, people assume they have to be making contender moves, but their team really isn’t in position to compete this year. They shouldn’t give away any valuable pieces for one year rentals when a lot of things would have to break right to get them into the playoffs. They needed to sign a starter in the offseason or trade for one to compete, but now they might as well just wait for free agency because I’m sure one of Harang or Arroyo will get let go and they can have them if they wish.
There was a lot of talk in the Astros Cardinals game last night about Oswalt possibly leaving Houston. Wouldn’t he make for a nice number 2…
Trading utility players and “crappy” starters only returns other utility players and “crappy” starters in return. If the Mets want to land a true #2 quality starter, then they’ll have to move David Wright, or Julio Reyes (if other teams aren’t scared off by health issues) or some top, near-ready minor league talent in return.
julio reyes? ahaha
What’s Braden Looper up to these days….
The Mets have essentially been big on potential and small on results. Do they really have so much money tied up in Wright, Reyes, Santana and K-Rod that they can’t sign anyone else? If so, someone really needs to look at the return on investment that they are getting on these guys. Bay was a nice addition, but there really needs to be more offensive production from the corner infielders to really be competitive. Where is the Mets Miguel Cabrera, Albert Pujols, Carlos Pena, Lance Berkman, Ryan Howard, Mark Texieria, Adrian Gonzalez, etc. Even second tier guys like Kendry Morales, Billy Butler, Adam Dunn, Todd Helton, etc. are putting up better numbers than what the Mets are getting from 3rd and 1st base. Can the Mets really not afford to make a play for Adrian Gonzalez? I realize that they need pitching BADLY!, but that isn’t the only problem needing to be addressed. This team needs to look at moving some potential for the much more important goal of getting some results.
Its really good the Wilpons decided to hang onto Omar after the last few years worth of debacles, since hes been so capable for fielding a competitive team.
I really hope he gets fired over Jerry Manuel. Manuel is just working with what he has.
Santana’s fastball usually is slower at the beginning of the season than at the end.
No, 88 is about what he’s at. Give the other starters more than 2 starts before you call for Warthen’s head.
According to the Pitch F/X, his fastball in both starts topped at 91 and the average velocity was 89. That’s normal.
Maine should be sent to AAA to keep working on getting back to form.
Igarashi has been great! May not be a bad idea to put him in the rotation for Maine if he struggles again next start.
His change up has always been around 78. That is why it is so nasty, because it has movement and has a huge speed differential when compared to his fastball. I’m not disagreeing with you, because I think Dan Warthen has really messed up some of these mets pitchers. I just don’t agree that he messed up Santana, because he has always lived in the low 90’s high 80’s at the beginning of the season, give him 5 starts and he’ll be sitting around 92 93. As for Maine I think its a combination of Warthen being a complete fool as well as John being a little over cautious due to the injuries. He needs to stop spotting the ball and let it fl like he did in 2007.