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Mets Seek Overpriced, Underperforming Pitcher?

By Tim Dierkes | July 28, 2010 at 9:06am CDT

The Mets are quite concerned about their 2011 ticket sales, writes Joel Sherman of the New York Post.  That concern could compel them to make a trade, but Sherman says their target is modest:

What I hear is the Mets are trying to locate a pitcher (probably a reliever) who is overpriced and not having a particularly strong season, but who their scouts like and pluck him for little to no prospect in return.

I can't speak for the Mets' scouts, but relievers Kerry Wood and Chad Qualls might fit the description.

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  1. Moebarguy

    15 years ago

    They should look on their own roster and make a trade with themselves.

    Reply
    • Guest

      15 years ago

      Oliver Perez’s walks for Jeff Francoeur’s plate discipline.

      *world explodes*

      Reply
  2. bbxxj

    15 years ago

    Concerned with image and therefore 2011 ticket sales, the Mets plan to remedy this by aquiring a reliever who is having a bad season and is earning too much. Makes sense to me.

    Reply
    • Moebarguy

      15 years ago

      Despite the humor in it, I would say most teams try to look for a good buy-low candidate. However, broadcasting that effort publicly is sort of silly.

      Reply
    • Jeff S

      15 years ago

      Classic. I get that they’re doing it because they’re willing to give up the proverbial farm more than they are willing to give up the literal farm, but its still hilarious.

      Reply
  3. dc21892

    15 years ago

    That’s just what the Mets need lmao. Overpriced pitchers who don’t perform. Did they not learn when signing Perez? Now you’re willing to take on another one. Sad. Miniya did bring in good talent before but now I’m wondering what he’s thinking. Thank God I’m not a Mets fan.

    Reply
  4. booyahtastic

    15 years ago

    How about Linebrink from the ChiSox! I am sure Kenny would be willing to let him go for a bag of peanuts, preferably one that is unopened but I am sure he would be flexible

    Reply
    • klassic

      15 years ago

      That is the first player I thought of when I read this post.

      Reply
  5. 14 Rocks

    15 years ago

    LOL at the title.

    Reply
  6. andrewyf

    15 years ago

    I thought this post was an Onion-style joke, but no, it’s actually true.

    The story of the Mets is a joke that just keeps writing itself. What a sad franchise.

    Reply
    • Russell Mania

      15 years ago

      I thought the same thing – the subject heading just sounds so wrong haha

      Reply
    • Johnny

      15 years ago

      Trust me, it sucks horribly to be a Mets fan. It truly is a joke of a franchise from the top down.

      Reply
  7. theydizneyboy

    15 years ago

    Eli Manning?

    Reply
  8. Guest

    15 years ago

    that’s why they should get Farnsworth and Meche from KC…

    Reply
    • The_Silver_Stacker

      15 years ago

      Farnsoworth and Meche for Perez and Franceour LMAO if that trade ever went down no one wins

      Reply
  9. JPB705

    15 years ago

    Oh Mets. As a Phillies fan, thank you for being you.

    Reply
    • Nick Migliore

      15 years ago

      And thank you Phillies for employing Ruben Amaro, who is easily becoming one of the worst GM’s in baseball. Gotta love that Howard extension, huh? Ahahah.

      Reply
      • darkdonnie

        15 years ago

        While his start hasn’t been great, he’s still an upgrade over Omar.

        Reply
        • Just_MLB

          15 years ago

          hmmm…lets see…
          there is no replacement for rollins anywhere in sight…
          there are no 3b prospects anywhere in sight…
          no LF prospects anywhere in sight…
          the chances of re-signing Werth look slim if the Yanks/Sox get involved
          u have Dom Brown…but his bat gives u a lineup of almost all lefties..

          Trading Cliff Lee for a bag of balls when they could’ve had a 1-2-3 of Doc/Lee/Cole
          Overpaying for Howard when the market for a 32 year old defensive liability would not have been that great.
          Yeah it looks like Amaro is a splendid upgrade over Omar !

          The Mets have around 10 guys under 30 who are contributing on the MLB level this year…

          Pagan, Reyes, Wright, Niese, Pelfrey, Thole, Parnell, Davis, Mejia, Tejada…
          not to mention they have flores, havens, f-mart, nieuwenhuis, and others in the minors coming up…

          Reply
          • Muggi

            15 years ago

            You’re right, no replacement for Rollins or 3B in sight…luckily Rollins and Polanco are signed for another few years.

            The Phils have most of their core signed until at least 2012, so they have time to find reps…with the ridiculous glut of talent they have in A-AA, the timing should work out well. As noted last week by Baseball America, “no organization has more talent at the A-level than the Phillies.”

            Werth probably won’t be resigned…but it’s not the end of the world. The whole lefty-righty thing gets overblown at times…if you have a lefties that hit lefties well, it doesn’t really matter (and Utley does, as has Brown in the minors). I’d love to see them resign Werth though.

            Comparing the young-player callups of the Mets and Phillies is just a question of timing really…Mets have been calling up their young guys over the last 2-3yrs, whre the Phillies will begin the callup process next year, with the majority of the talent coming in 2-3yrs.

            Reply
            • Just_MLB

              15 years ago

              rollins is a free-agent after next year….thats not exactly a whole lot of
              time…
              the phillies have depth at OF and SP…not in the middle infield or 3B..
              the next 2 years will be critical for them as Rollins will probably look for
              a 3-4 deal…
              do you give it to him ?

              Reply
            • Just_MLB

              15 years ago

              rollins is a free-agent after next year….thats not exactly a whole lot of
              time…
              the phillies have depth at OF and SP…not in the middle infield or 3B..
              the next 2 years will be critical for them as Rollins will probably look for
              a 3-4 deal…
              do you give it to him ?

              Reply
      • UtleyPhan

        15 years ago

        Yeah, .302, 24hr, 81rbi(leading the league, again). horrible. I hate having a great core locked up long term.

        Reply
        • Zebradune

          15 years ago

          LOL at using HRs and RBIs to justify his contract. He’s fat, a terrible fielder, his OBP is declining as is his power. There is absolutely no way he’ll come close to being worth his contract.

          Reply
          • UtleyPhan

            15 years ago

            You must be thinking of Prince Fielder because Howard has slimmed down and improved his defense to be at worst average defensively. His OBP has gone up 2 consecutive seasons, cut down on strikeouts, and the last time I checked the object of the game was to score runs which he produces plenty of.

            Reply
            • Zebradune

              15 years ago

              Fangraphs disagrees with your “average defensively” statement.

              Again, his BB% has declined sharply this year and his ISO has decreased as well.

              I don’t even know why I’m arguing this with you. Any objective person knows that the Howard contract is an abomination.

              Reply
            • Zebradune

              15 years ago

              Fangraphs disagrees with your “average defensively” statement.

              Again, his BB% has declined sharply this year and his ISO has decreased as well.

              I don’t even know why I’m arguing this with you. Any objective person knows that the Howard contract is an abomination.

              Reply
          • UtleyPhan

            15 years ago

            You must be thinking of Prince Fielder because Howard has slimmed down and improved his defense to be at worst average defensively. His OBP has gone up 2 consecutive seasons, cut down on strikeouts, and the last time I checked the object of the game was to score runs which he produces plenty of.

            Reply
      • theydizneyboy

        15 years ago

        Do you even know who your GM is? How can a Mets fan criticize any other General Manager?

        Reply
      • nm344

        15 years ago

        Enjoy the mediocrity that is Ike Davis for the next 5 years.

        Reply
        • Guest

          15 years ago

          LOL YOU FUNNY. Ryan Howard can’t a hit a ball like Ike Davis can.

          Reply
          • fred

            15 years ago

            are you serious? have you seen Howard hit?

            Reply
            • davidwright1234

              15 years ago

              Howard may hit more home-runs but when Davis gets a hold of one there always 400+ ft

              Reply
            • davidwright1234

              15 years ago

              Howard may hit more home-runs but when Davis gets a hold of one there always 400+ ft

              Reply
          • darkdonnie

            15 years ago

            hahaha

            Reply
            • Brian Bickos

              15 years ago

              This has to be one of the dumbest posts ever. I’m a life-long Mets fan and I can’t believe someone wrote that.

              Reply
            • Brian Bickos

              15 years ago

              This has to be one of the dumbest posts ever. I’m a life-long Mets fan and I can’t believe someone wrote that.

              Reply
          • Ryan Nolan

            15 years ago

            even as a mets fan, i gotta say thats a dumb comment. When Howard connects… lets just say it doesnt matter how small Citizens Bank Park is, Its gone.
            But to think in this age, that a rival team would try to steal any 1st baseman not named Pujols for $25 million a year is ridiculous.

            Reply
            • nm344

              15 years ago

              I guess we’ll see when AGonz and Fielder hit the market

              Reply
            • nm344

              15 years ago

              I guess we’ll see when AGonz and Fielder hit the market

              Reply
      • Jason Klinger

        15 years ago

        You mean the extension for the guy hitting over .300, with 23 HR and 83 RBI?

        That’s what I thought.

        Reply
    • Guest

      15 years ago

      So fan meaning becoming a die hard since 2008?

      Reply
      • JPB705

        15 years ago

        That’s funny, especially coming from someone using a rookie as their username. Sorry, bud, but I’ve been a fan for as long as I can remember. I sat through miserable years with the likes of Desi Relaford and Robert Person. I fully admit there are too many bandwagoners in this town, but I’m not one of them. Also, it’s hard to take a comment from you seriously after you stated Ike Davis can hit a ball better than Howard.

        Reply
        • iHeartMets

          15 years ago

          I love Mets, but I’d take Howard over Davis any day… Howard is one of the best power hitters!

          Reply
        • Guest

          15 years ago

          Ryan Howards “Citizen” home runs don’t compare to real home runs like Ike’s “Citi” home runs.

          Reply
          • darkdonnie

            15 years ago

            Majority of Howard’s HR’s are HR’s at any stadium…look it up on Hit Tracker.

            Reply
            • Muggi

              15 years ago

              Don’t confuse him with facts.

              Reply
          • JPB705

            15 years ago

            This is hilarious. Your fellow fans are even trying to tell you how off point you are. You do realize that half of Howard’s games are played elsewhere, correct?

            Davis has hit a HR every 23.21 ABs
            Howard has hit a HR ever 12.58 ABs over a longer stretch of time.

            You’re right in saying those Citizen’s home runs are cheap. The one 500+ ft. bomb onto Ashburn Alley I saw Howard smash is a particularly cheap, bandbox HR.

            Reply
          • nm344

            15 years ago

            I have to believe you’re just trolling. If you’re not, seek help!

            Reply
            • antor

              15 years ago

              Comparing howard to davis doesn’t make sense. Ike is a 22 year old rookie, howard is a veteran. yes the contract is bad because of his age. Davis will be in his prime when howard is on his decline, but right now he is one of the best hitters in the game.

              Reply
              • Guest

                15 years ago

                Ike Davis is better than Howard and Pujols.

                I can’t believe you morons haven’t picked up on this yet.

                Reply
              • Guest

                15 years ago

                Ike Davis is better than Howard and Pujols.

                I can’t believe you morons haven’t picked up on this yet.

                Reply
            • antor

              15 years ago

              Comparing howard to davis doesn’t make sense. Ike is a 22 year old rookie, howard is a veteran. yes the contract is bad because of his age. Davis will be in his prime when howard is on his decline, but right now he is one of the best hitters in the game.

              Reply
  10. bbxxj

    15 years ago

    The Mets already did this with a position player in GMJ. Seeing how they successfully lost a marginally valuable reliever a few million dollars they want to see if they can repeat the process with a pitcher.

    Reply
  11. Nick Migliore

    15 years ago

    Looking for pitchers with great peripherals but bad luck (Qualls is an example of this) is exactly what you should do.

    Reply
    • malcolmec

      15 years ago

      Really? I saw Qualls pitch last night at CBP, and I saw his 8.49 ERA and thought the same thing… he can’t really be that bad, right? Then he gave up a home run to Cody Ransom.

      Reply
  12. UtleyPhan

    15 years ago

    how about lidge at $12mil/year

    Reply
  13. Tom R

    15 years ago

    Please add Brian Fuentes to this list.

    Reply
  14. John Gyna

    15 years ago

    Why is it that you always read “such and such team looking to add a power hitter or ace pitcher” but then with the Mets it’s always some absurd situation?

    I understand trying to find a diamond in the rough, or someone that can find himself like Valentin or Tatis have done in the past or whatever.

    I also understand that they’ve emptied their farm system the last several years and now want to hold on to as many prospects as possible, but part of the reason that CitiField is empty is because the fans see through the politics that surround the front office.

    Reply
    • ben m

      15 years ago

      Because Omar Minaya is the Isiah Thomas of baseball GM’s. Wilpon’s are like Dolan without the $$$$$$$$$.

      Reply
    • Just_MLB

      15 years ago

      “part of the reason that CitiField is empty is because the fans see through the politics that surround the front office. ”

      my friend u nailed it right on the head…

      Reply
  15. mkorpal

    15 years ago

    You can have Cook if you want.

    Reply
  16. Greven Rache

    15 years ago

    Mets seeking overpaid, underperforming pitcher… Cubs make Carlos Zambrano available… Make it happen? If nothing else, at least it makes the lineup stronger when he pitches.

    Reply
  17. PujolsHollidayWestbrook

    15 years ago

    I guess Ollie Perez, John Maine, and even Johan and K-Rod (very few are good enough for those contracts) weren’t enough. We better go find another…Granted, this is the same team that will pay Bobby Bonilla $1.19 million a year from 2011-2035 to buy out a contract of $5.9 million from 2000 and Bret Saberhagen $250K (started in 2004) until 2029 for 1995 contract buyout. Why am I not surprised?

    Reply
  18. hawkny1

    15 years ago

    Hmmmm. Mets continue to feel the pressure from their uptown rivals to find quick solutions to long term problems. Will it ever end?

    Reply
    • iHeartMets

      15 years ago

      No. Never

      Reply
      • hawkny1

        15 years ago

        Too bad… I go back to the days of Eddie Kranepool, Le Grande Orange, etc…with that club.  They need a new owner, general manager ( with smarts) and a desire to develop a productive farm system.  They could start by moving their AAA team in Buffalo closer to home, like TEE has done.  In this era of 6-inning pitching, etc… clubs really have to rely on a 40-man roster to succeed year in and year out.  IMHO, playing in Buffalo is like being in Alaska, as far as player connectivity goes…

        Reply
  19. George A

    15 years ago

    Can anyone convince me that Ollie Perez and Luis Castillo for Carlos Zambrano is not a win-win for both organizations? Mets dump two guys who are counter-productive for one who is more expensive, and a major league knucklehead, but has a chance of being productive.

    Cubs save move cause Ollie & Castillo cost less than Zambrano, and they want him to just go away..

    Reply
    • dc21892

      15 years ago

      I like the idea, but unless the Cubs trade Theroit there is no spot for Castillo. The Cubs wont pay him to ride the bench.

      Reply
    • ben m

      15 years ago

      Honestly as a mets fan I don’t think its fair value for the cubs. I guess the money is similar though no? Ollie and Castillo are like 30 million before buyouts.

      Reply
  20. schellis

    15 years ago

    How about Aaron Harang, he’s more a flyball pitcher which doesn’t work well in the GABP. Move him to Citi-field and he would actually be a fairly solid arm.

    Reply
    • mrsjohnmiltonrocks

      15 years ago

      He would be a good fit for Citi. I think they also should look into Ted Lilly. His stuff would play well at Citi too.

      Reply
    • iHeartMets

      15 years ago

      Aaron isn’t going anywhere the Red are doing too good right now

      Reply
      • schellis

        15 years ago

        Yes the Reds are playing well but they also have a surplus of starting pitching, and moving Harang could free up some money for them to get something that is a greater need. Right now they have the following starters

        Cueto, Arroyo, Leake, Wood, Volquez, Bailey, Harang, LeClure, Maloney and Chapman. Now of course Volquez hasn’t looked good his last two starts and Leake and Wood will likely have inning caps, but that is still a lot of pitching talent.

        Reply
      • schellis

        15 years ago

        Yes the Reds are playing well but they also have a surplus of starting pitching, and moving Harang could free up some money for them to get something that is a greater need. Right now they have the following starters

        Cueto, Arroyo, Leake, Wood, Volquez, Bailey, Harang, LeClure, Maloney and Chapman. Now of course Volquez hasn’t looked good his last two starts and Leake and Wood will likely have inning caps, but that is still a lot of pitching talent.

        Reply
  21. Guest

    15 years ago

    I’m all over Zambrano for the Mets. I can’t think of a better candidate and sadly, Carlos would probably do well in queens.

    Reply
    • ben m

      15 years ago

      Yea plus once he starts carrying the Mets offense when he pitches and Jerry’s first RH bat off the bench to pinch hit he’ll be an allstar again. I can see it now Santana pitches a complete game shutout for 12 innings and the met horrid offense can’t scratch out a run and zambrano comes in a pops a dinger his first day as a met.

      Reply
  22. icedrake523

    15 years ago

    So they balk at the contracts of Oswalt, Haren, and Lilly but want a guy who is overpaid AND underperforming? No wonder everything has gone down hill sine 2006.

    Reply
  23. ben m

    15 years ago

    At this point the Mets need to roll the dice with Harang/Zambrano. If those two are gonna regain their ace/staff workhouse status, they are gonna turn it around its in Citi’s flyball par with some NY fan backing them. There is no reason Maine/Perez were given every opportunity to start if healthy even know they sucked and sucked consistently these last couple of seasons. With the Mets payroll, and having an ace still in his prime you gotta at least bring in different guys who can at least eat innings which maine and perez couldn’t even do and as a result always killed the bullpen when they were notorious for sucking the last couple of years. Die Omar its not that the Wilpons won’t give you cash they just see how you spend it on trash most of the time. Unless its a no brainer for the elite players in FA which can GM with your payroll can do, you suck giving out contracts to players just like Isiah Thomas did, your both scouts. Rant over.

    Reply
  24. downeasterjc

    15 years ago

    As a division rival Braves fan, you guys can have Lowe. Don’t even worry about sending a prospect, just pick up his tab and he’s yours.

    Reply
    • icedrake523

      15 years ago

      Only if you take Oliver Perez. You can have Francoeur back, too.

      Reply
    • Just_MLB

      15 years ago

      im sure all the met fans that were bashing Omar for not signing lowe would run for cover !

      Reply
  25. crunchy1

    15 years ago

    Carlos Zambrano!!

    Reply
  26. progmatinee

    15 years ago

    Looking for over paid and under performing? I can do that. Please call 555-CASH.

    Reply
  27. Chris

    15 years ago

    Take Wood for a marginal prospect and I’ll be sure the Indians throw Peralta in for free! Two overpriced stiffs for the price of one…I can only wish. I agree with many others however in saying that Zambrano might fit well in Queens.

    Reply
  28. Aaron Haker

    15 years ago

    Did I read this right, they want an OVERPRICED and UNDER-PERFORMING player. Now that’s the way to get in a pennant race. WOW.

    Reply
  29. billmelton

    15 years ago

    Omar, have you met Scott Linebrink?

    Reply
  30. The_Silver_Stacker

    15 years ago

    This is perhaps the dumbest team philosophy I have heard in quite some time, no wonder they are looked down upon

    Reply
  31. P W

    15 years ago

    Chan ho Park?

    Reply
  32. Zebradune

    15 years ago

    Isn’t the idea to find a cheap, underperforming player???? I mean, we already have Oliver Perez on the roster to fill “overpriced” and “underperforming” (he sucks)

    Reply
  33. ThePaulCrew

    15 years ago

    They could probably pry Hoffman/Coffey/Riske from the Brewers for a low level prospect (each).

    Reply
  34. Thomas McCabe

    15 years ago

    Hello Omar, welcome to the Red Sox relief store. I trust we can find something to your liking.

    Reply
  35. Thomas McCabe

    15 years ago

    Hello Omar, welcome to the Red Sox relief store. I trust we can find something to your liking.

    Reply
  36. iRipper89

    15 years ago

    well that title just takes all the fun out of making fun of the mets.

    Reply
  37. iRipper89

    15 years ago

    well that title just takes all the fun out of making fun of the mets.

    Reply
  38. Darren Snow

    15 years ago

    Typical of the dumb way they do things. Rather than find fresh talent that can win them games that will bring fans to the stadium, they go out and sign “names” that they think will trick fans into attending.

    Reply
  39. Darren Snow

    15 years ago

    Typical of the dumb way they do things. Rather than find fresh talent that can win them games that will bring fans to the stadium, they go out and sign “names” that they think will trick fans into attending.

    Reply
  40. studio179

    15 years ago

    Carlos Zambrano in New York would not be fair to Z. I can’t even imagine how that situation would play out. Chicago is far from the days when the media was soft for a big city. The media is still not New York intensive. I guess if Minaya would want to roll dice…

    Reply
  41. Aaron Smith

    15 years ago

    Linebrink might still be useful in the National League…

    Reply
  42. wright1970

    15 years ago

    The Mets wont be a yearly contender until the Wilpons sell this team. Being concerned about 2011 ticket sales when it is 2010 tells it all. This isnt KC or Florida, start acting like owners of a big market New York team should. pathetic

    Reply
  43. subwayseries

    15 years ago

    Howard and Davis are two dif hitters, and Jeez, one’s a rook. Howard has bat speed & power and gets a long look at the ball. Ike has a sweet swing, but commits much earlier. When he connects it’s with full extension so the ball becomes a projectile. He could develop into a big-time 1B cleanup hitter, or not, but without comparing him to a poss future HOF vet, he is the best 1B we had in years, for a reg 1B.

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