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The Trade Market For Starting Pitching

By Ben Nicholson-Smith | July 15, 2010 at 3:21pm CDT

The best starting pitcher available has already been traded, but quality arms are there for teams that are willing to pay for them. In some cases that will mean taking on salary, in others it will mean giving up prospects and in select cases it could mean both. Here's a look at some potentially available starters in the post-Cliff Lee market, sorted by 2010 salary:

  • Roy Oswalt, $15MM ($16MM in 2011, $2MM buyout or $16MM option in 2012) – Oswalt won't come cheap, as the Astros still appear to be asking for salary relief and prospects. So why would teams even consider him? Oswalt's 3.08 ERA, 8.4 K/9 and 2.5 BB/9 probably have a lot to do with it. Few starters are more proven and few are having better seasons.
  • Ted Lilly, $12MM (free agent after 2010) – The left-hander should draw interest from teams, given his 4.08 ERA and 2.7 K/BB ratio. The Mets are interested and other clubs may pursue him, too. Lilly profiles as a Type A free agent, so the Cubs could obtain picks in the 2011 draft if he turns down their offer of arbitration.
  • Jake Westbrook, $11MM (free agent after 2010) – The Indians would presumably have to take on salary to move Westbrook, but he would likely clear waivers, so the Indians don't have to deal him immediately. Westbrook has a 4.75 ERA in 108 innings so far in 2010.
  • Ben Sheets, $10MM (free agent after 2010) – Sheets has recovered from a rough start, but his overall numbers (112.2 innings, 4.63 ERA, 6.6 K/9, 3.3 BB/9) are pedestrian. Like Westbrook, Sheets may clear waivers.
  • Dan Haren, $8.25MM ($29MM or more remaining after 2010) – Like Oswalt, Haren is pitching well and earning a considerable amount. His 4.36 ERA has been inflated by some bad luck on balls in play, but his strikeout (8.7 K/9) and walk (1.9 BB/9) rates remain good.
  • Fausto Carmona, $4.9MM ($6.1MM salary in 2011, followed by three club options) – Carmona is pitching well (3.64 ERA in 116.1 innings), but the Indians have lots of reasons to keep him.
  • Paul Maholm, $4.5MM ($6.5MM or more afterwards) – The 4.37 ERA is nice, but it's likely that teams would shy away, since Maholm has a substantial amount remaining on his contract.
  • Dave Bush, $4.2MM (free agent after 2010) – Bush could have appeal as an innings eater, though he's not going to dominate (4.14 ERA).
  • Edwin Jackson, $4.2MM (free agent after he earns $8.35MM in 2011) – Jackson even has command issues when he's throwing no-hitters, so teams may look for more predictable options.
  • Ricky Nolasco, $3.8MM (free agent after 2012) – The Marlins haven't made Nolasco available yet, but his 4.2 K/BB ratio stands out. He's under team control for a while, though he'll be getting raises every year his team offers arbitration.
  • Brett Myers, $3MM (mutual option after 2010) – Many teams will likely have interest in Myers. He has a 3.41 ERA with 6.6 K/9 and 2.8 BB/9, he has pitched in playoff races before and has just $1.3MM remaining on his contract.
  • Jeremy Guthrie, $3MM (free agent after 2012) – The former first-rounder has a 4.77 ERA in 111.1 innings in Baltimore. The Padres have some interest.
  • Brian Bannister, $2.3MM (free agent after 2012) – Dayton Moore would presumably listen on Bannister, who has a 5.56 ERA with 5.3 K/9 and 3.0 BB/9.
  • Livan Hernandez, $900K (free agent after 2010) – Hernandez has struggled over the couse of the past month, but he still has a 3.37 ERA. He doesn't strike anybody out, but at that price, teams could be calling the Nationals.
  • Shaun Marcum ($850K) and Wade Davis ($400K) are a pair of cheap, controllable starters having productive seasons, but it would presumably take a lot to obtain either pitcher.
  • Free agents including Pedro Martinez, Braden Looper and Jarrod Washburn are still available.
  • We already examined the market for potentially available outfielders, catchers, first basemen, second basemen, third basemen and shortstops.
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  1. Joseph

    15 years ago

    You could do worse than trading for Paul Maholm right now. Guy is solid every year, and signed for a reasonable rate the next couple of seasons.

    Reply
  2. wickedkevin

    15 years ago

    You left off Paul Byrd 😉

    Reply
  3. Bob

    15 years ago

    If Bannister is listed, why not Kyle Davies as well?

    Reply
  4. koz91

    15 years ago

    The Cardinals should go for Haren! They are plagued with injuries and want him anyway. Seems like a fit.

    Reply
    • Dermick

      15 years ago

      Just herd Mo say that there is a possibility that Penny wont pitch until the end of the season so I think they have to go and get Haren

      Reply
      • Patrick OKennedy

        15 years ago

        Every team wants Haren. What two uber prospects do you have to offer?

        Reply
        • koz91

          15 years ago

          Seems like exactly the thing for the newly extended contract of Moz to figure out to put his team over the Reds.

          Reply
        • Spirit of '69

          15 years ago

          Mejia and Martinez or Mejia and Thole, what say you?

          Reply
          • Msforever

            15 years ago

            I think it would take at least Mejia, Flores and F-Mart. IDK, they may even say that Niese needs to be part of the deal.

            Reply
            • Sean Matrai

              15 years ago

              if thats the case the Mets say no.Trading awy niese is pointless,F-mart,Flores and a prospect maybe Mejjia I say yes

              Reply
            • Sean Matrai

              15 years ago

              if thats the case the Mets say no.Trading awy niese is pointless,F-mart,Flores and a prospect maybe Mejjia I say yes

              Reply
        • Dermick

          15 years ago

          Shelby Miller, Peter Kozma, Eduardo Sanchez, and Daryl Jones. Need me to keep going?

          Reply
          • antor

            15 years ago

            Cardinals farm system is ranked 29th in baseball. Aside from Shelby Miller, everyone else is nothing special.

            Reply
            • Dermick

              15 years ago

              That is based off of projections before the year. if you look at how the cardinal prospects the way some are playing now, its a different story
              And i didn’t mean to like that

              Reply
              • TAYSLACKER

                15 years ago

                The Cardinal’s farm system, as of the All-Star break, is ranked 30th. That doesn’t sound like good trade value to me. If they want Haren, the Cards are gonna have to part with with Craig or Rasmus with probably Dickson. That seems unlikely.

                Reply
                • Dermick

                  15 years ago

                  With Holliday, Rasmus, and Ludwick/Jon Jay in the outfield, I think they might be willing to part ways with Craig. Who is Dickson?

                  Reply
              • TAYSLACKER

                15 years ago

                The Cardinal’s farm system, as of the All-Star break, is ranked 30th. That doesn’t sound like good trade value to me. If they want Haren, the Cards are gonna have to part with with Craig or Rasmus with probably Dickson. That seems unlikely.

                Reply
  5. Spirit of '69

    15 years ago

    Buzz is Pedro hasn’t even thrown off a mound, not sure he’s a viable option as we’re already starting the second half.

    Reply
  6. bbxxj

    15 years ago

    Kenshin Kawakami is a quality starter and is likely available.

    Reply
    • Brandon Woodworth

      15 years ago

      That’s funny.

      Reply
      • MARTIN

        15 years ago

        Hey Brandon when somethings funny, you don’t reply “That’s funny.” just simply press the like button 😀

        Reply
        • Brandon Woodworth

          15 years ago

          Sarcasm doesn’t go too far on the internet. Kawakami is a crap pitcher. I’m glad he’s out of my rotation.

          Reply
          • bbxxj

            15 years ago

            Kawakami has a 4.48 ERA and a 2.04 K/BB and has a career 4.07 ERA in 238.2 innings. That is obviously not elite but it does make him a solid and valuable MLB starting pitcher.

            Oh but wait… he doesn’t get WINZ!!!!

            Reply
            • Brandon Woodworth

              15 years ago

              His second time through the rotation, he’s done. He throws chest high meat. He is crap. Wonder why he’s on mop up duty? Noboy wants to trade for his ass.

              Reply
              • bbxxj

                15 years ago

                Both inflamitory and incorrect, congrats!

                Reply
                • Brandon Woodworth

                  15 years ago

                  Then please explain why you haven’t seen him pitch since he was put in the pen? Bobby even went with Medlen for relief the other day. How insulting is it, and what does it say about Kawakami when the guy who replaced you gets the call out of the bullpen before you too? If some team wants him, take him. But you’re looking at the very least a 5.00 ERA in the AL.

                  Reply
                • Brandon Woodworth

                  15 years ago

                  Then please explain why you haven’t seen him pitch since he was put in the pen? Bobby even went with Medlen for relief the other day. How insulting is it, and what does it say about Kawakami when the guy who replaced you gets the call out of the bullpen before you too? If some team wants him, take him. But you’re looking at the very least a 5.00 ERA in the AL.

                  Reply
    • roberty

      15 years ago

      I was gonna write the same thing but you beat me to it! Kawakami has about $10 million left on his contract between this year and next. If Atlanta eats some of next year’s salary (or all of the remaining money this year) maybe they could get something done with a team that’s hard up for pitching or wants to dump an equally unproductive contract.

      I doubt any GM’s would give up a player of real value for him.

      Where is Bill Bavasi when you need him?

      Reply
  7. Rockstar4money

    15 years ago

    No mention of Aaron Harang or Bronson Arroyo at all? Both would be near the top salary-wise, while Arroyo would probably be near the top in terms of quality and durability.

    Reply
    • Deviation

      15 years ago

      It’s only by a game but Cincy is in first place. They should be buyers, not sellers.

      Reply
      • bigpat

        15 years ago

        Neither of these guys are contributing a lot, though. They will probably be better of this season with Wood and Volquez. If they can get something for either of them and free up some salary, it wouldn’t hurt. Their rotation would still be solid:CuetoArroyo/HarangLeakeVolquezWoodBaileyJust because it would fall under the category of “selling” doesn’t make it a bad move. It may also help them free up cash to fill a need somewhere else. They should trade Harang if anyone has interest or put him in the pen and just make him a fastball/slider guy. Arroyo always gets hot after the all star break.

        Reply
    • mrsjohnmiltonrocks

      15 years ago

      They really do need to keep Arroyo around this year. He’ll give them 200+ innings; at the very least he’ll keep you in the game, at the most he’ll toss an occasional gem. I’d be utterly shocked if they move him before the season ends, even if they fall out of contention. With all of the youth in their starting rotation, you need a guy that will take the ball every fifth day.

      Reply
    • mrsjohnmiltonrocks

      15 years ago

      They really do need to keep Arroyo around this year. He’ll give them 200+ innings; at the very least he’ll keep you in the game, at the most he’ll toss an occasional gem. I’d be utterly shocked if they move him before the season ends, even if they fall out of contention. With all of the youth in their starting rotation, you need a guy that will take the ball every fifth day.

      Reply
    • Sean Matrai

      15 years ago

      The Reds would be so much better down the road if they dished Harang already.Mr Injury.The Reds would be so good imagine down the road Chapman,Volquez,Leake,Cueto,Arroyo.If that and their over productive lineup with Mr.Votto in it doesnt spell future tell me what does

      Reply
      • Sean Matrai

        15 years ago

        Plus wood and bailey can back up if needed.With that team they are eaily the NL central favorites

        Reply
    • Sean Matrai

      15 years ago

      The Reds would be so much better down the road if they dished Harang already.Mr Injury.The Reds would be so good imagine down the road Chapman,Volquez,Leake,Cueto,Arroyo.If that and their over productive lineup with Mr.Votto in it doesnt spell future tell me what does

      Reply
  8. James Hannon

    15 years ago

    Last Month Sheets has a 3.90 ERA with a 1.21 whip. Some teams might like those numbers. Some.

    Reply
    • jpkinney7

      15 years ago

      Ben Sheets: 9 or 13 Starts are Quality. Hasn’t given up more than 4 ER in over 2 months. An NL Team would be wise to bring him back. Plus, the A’s are more than willing to eat a majority of the salary. Beane might need a decent prospect in return. He seems to like having Sheets around Anderson, Cahill, Gio, and Mazzaro.

      5/8 – 6.1 IP, 2ER
      5/13 – 6.0, 1ER
      5/18 – 6.2, 4ER
      5/23 – 6.0, 0ER
      5/28 – 7.0, 3ER
      6/2 – 6.0, 4ER
      6/7 – 6.0, 3ER
      6/12 – 6.0, 3ER
      6/19 – 7.0, 4ER
      6/25 – 6.0, 4ER
      6/30 – 6.0, 3ER
      7/05 – 7.1, 3ER
      7/10 – 6.0, 0ER

      Reply
  9. Dan Sloane

    15 years ago

    Can someone explain to me why Oswalt’s salary is a stumbling block to teams trading for him? He’s one of the top pitchers in baseball. As a free agent, he would get at LEAST $16 million per year. Why is everyone acting like he’d overpaid?

    Reply
    • j6takish

      15 years ago

      I don’t think its his salary, I think its his and the Astros ridiculous demands. He only wants to go to a contender, but his definition of contender is the Yankees and Red Sox. And Houston wants a team to take all of his salary and still give up top prospects

      Reply
      • jwsox

        15 years ago

        AND he wants to stay in the NL, he does not want to go to the AL at all

        Reply
        • mrsjohnmiltonrocks

          15 years ago

          I think the whole Oswalt thing is kind of funny. He has a no trade clause, presumably because he wanted to stay with the Astros. First he wants to go, and asks to, publicly. Then he only wants to go where he wants to go. Great for him, I guess. Plus, there are plenty of teams that simply can’t take on his contract, but the few that can, well, that’s not where he wants to go.

          Because dealing him is not going to be an easy task, I think he stays with the Astros. Maybe they would have an easier time dealing him in the off season anyway.

          Reply
        • mrsjohnmiltonrocks

          15 years ago

          I think the whole Oswalt thing is kind of funny. He has a no trade clause, presumably because he wanted to stay with the Astros. First he wants to go, and asks to, publicly. Then he only wants to go where he wants to go. Great for him, I guess. Plus, there are plenty of teams that simply can’t take on his contract, but the few that can, well, that’s not where he wants to go.

          Because dealing him is not going to be an easy task, I think he stays with the Astros. Maybe they would have an easier time dealing him in the off season anyway.

          Reply
    • Sean Matrai

      15 years ago

      Noone is going after him because the Astros want the team whom acquires him to pay off all of the money on his contract,and they want top prospects.That sounds even worse then what Jack Z wanted for Lee.Oswalt would be a great fit for any contender but not with that demand does any team strike that deal

      Reply
    • Sean Matrai

      15 years ago

      Noone is going after him because the Astros want the team whom acquires him to pay off all of the money on his contract,and they want top prospects.That sounds even worse then what Jack Z wanted for Lee.Oswalt would be a great fit for any contender but not with that demand does any team strike that deal

      Reply
  10. dc21892

    15 years ago

    Teams that really need a SP like the Mets should be considering Carmona, Sheets, Haren and Oswalt. Oswalt is a premiere pitcher and is under team control. He would fit well with Santana atop the rotation for them. Also, Carmona is a young pitcher that has very good stuff with a lot more potential. He has shown signs of what he is doing now, before he went down with his injuries. Sheets is another pitcher teams should consider because he is throwing the ball better as the season progresses. People have to remember he’s coming off surgery and it takes a lot of throwing to get right again. And Haren, he’s going to be costly, and his numbers are up this year but you know what you’re going to get year in and year out. This is just for them teams that depsarately need someone though. As for the other teams that want to add an arm, anyone else on that list can eat innings and give you a solid 4 era.

    Reply
    • Kevin

      15 years ago

      The Mets should be looking at Brett Myers to solidify their rotation they can then move Takahashi back to their bullpen. He also doesn’t come with a huge financial commitment. I don’t know what the astros would want for him but he shouldn’t cost the Mets too much in terms of prospects

      Reply
  11. sportsnut969

    15 years ago

    According to local sources about a month ago the Mets contacted the Indians about Carmona and also asked about Westbrook and Kearns but we never heard if the Mets ever made a offer for Carmona.

    I will say for Carmona who is signed to a team friendly contract and is under team control through 2014 I would think that to pry him away the offer would have to be pretty substantial IMO.

    Reply
    • mrsjohnmiltonrocks

      15 years ago

      You are correct. The Indians have no reason to deal Carmona at this point, unless you make them an offer they simply can’t refuse.

      Reply
  12. The Big Clayboski

    15 years ago

    I’d add Carlos Silva to this list. The Cubs should be thankful for what they’ve gotten out of him, but if they can turn his contract around for even a decent mid-level prospect, that’d be phenomenal.

    Reply
    • jwsox

      15 years ago

      the cubs NEED to sell high on silva, The got some good starts out of him and if the season were going the way alot of people thought it would then he would have been a huge pick up. But their season is toast and they need to get rid of his salary and get anything in return for him…silva has a huge history of one good year followed by multiple bad years and a lot of people around the league know that so that could be something that hurts them trying to trade him

      Reply
  13. harmony55

    15 years ago

    Would Erik Bedard have any trade value if the lefthander posts a quality start or two this month?

    Reply
    • JASONH

      15 years ago

      I think so 100%. His career numbers are simlar to Kerhsaw’s. If he can show he is healthy and effective for 2 starts before the deadline he woulod be the best LHP on the market. He has a $8.5 mil option for next year, so he wouldn’t be a 1 year rental.

      Reply
  14. Kelly

    15 years ago

    Your way off on Oswalt… Oswalt has Said he want to go to a contender Is Washington a Contender? Becouse he said he would go there. I think he said no to the White Sox becouse his buddy Peavy might have scared him alittle but it doesnt rule them out. If Drayton talks to him he would go. Also Incase you didnt know this already Astros have said they would pay a portion of Oswalts and Berkmans Salary to get a better return. IE like 5 to 7 million or so. So Again its not Oswalt. Mostlikly its the Offers the are getting and to my knowledge they want Oswalt to Beat Phil Niekro record before they trade him.

    Reply
    • Kelly

      15 years ago

      White Sox: Gordan Beckham Daniel Hudson, Brandon Short and Tyler Flowers for Roy Oswalt (Astros pay 7 Million) and Jeff Keppinger.

      This would be a real fair deal for the White Sox.

      Yankees: Jesus Montero, Brandon Laird and Manny B for Roy Oswalt and Brandon Lyon (Astros Pick up like 7 Million of Oswalts and 2 Million of Lyons Contract)

      See where Im going here. Astros want a fight for Oswalt so they can get a steal in Prospects. I thought Most Of you can read between the Lines.

      WAtch out for Brett Myers Matt Lindstrom and Brian Bogusevic to the Dodgers for Matt Kemp and Jerry Sands.

      Reply
      • jwsox

        15 years ago

        hahahaha why would the sox get rid of gordon beckham who is starting to hit again and is playing great D for 30 year old jeff keppenger…..That deal is too much for oswalt…short, flowers and 2 more minor leaguers not named hudson for oswalt with thte sox taking most of if not all of his deal is better and much more realistic given kenny and jerrys willingness to take on big contracts….

        you are clearly a astros fan, none of these deals make any sense for teams not named the astros,, bret meyers and lindstrom for MAT KEMP? are you kidding me?

        Reply
      • JASONH

        15 years ago

        Way to much for Oswalt to the Sox, not gonna happen.

        Not nearly enough for Matt Kemp.

        Reply
  15. sportsnut969

    15 years ago

    After looking at the numbers at this time the best overall starter that seem to be available on the market all 3 with playoff experience which can’t be over looked

    Oswalt
    Carmona
    Westbrook

    Reply
  16. daveineg

    15 years ago

    Bush has been much more than an “innings eater”. Don’t let his 4.07 ERA fool you. Throw out 2 terrible starts where he allowed 14 ER in 4 innings, and his ERA is 2.95. He’s 12 for 18 in quality starts with 6 straight.

    Reply
  17. tooch2112

    15 years ago

    Is a Smoltz comeback out of the question now? Just curious.

    Reply
  18. tooch2112

    15 years ago

    Is a Smoltz comeback out of the question now? Just curious.

    Reply
  19. BeenThereDoneIt

    15 years ago

    Carmona will be on the Jays by the time the month is over. They have been talking to the Indians since the middle of May. Book it.

    Reply
  20. BeenThereDoneIt

    15 years ago

    Carmona will be with the Jays by the end of this month. They have been talking to the Indians about Carmona for a couple of months now. BOOK IT!!!

    Reply
    • NorCalTribeFan

      15 years ago

      Not a chance….unless the Jays overwhelm the Indians. I don’t think that is likely.

      Reply
    • NorCalTribeFan

      15 years ago

      Not a chance….unless the Jays overwhelm the Indians. I don’t think that is likely.

      Reply
  21. geofff

    15 years ago

    Has anyone heard any talk about Zambrano? I know he has a lot of money owed to him, but I would think the Cubs might be willing to negotiate, and he would certainly be an intriguing possibility for some teams.

    Reply
  22. geofff

    15 years ago

    Has anyone heard any talk about Zambrano? I know he has a lot of money owed to him, but I would think the Cubs might be willing to negotiate, and he would certainly be an intriguing possibility for some teams.

    Reply
  23. jose7reyes

    15 years ago

    i would the mets having a brett myers or a dan haren

    Reply

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