The Padres are looking at at least one short-term option for their rotation, and their first baseman may be thinking much longer-term. Tom Krasovic of AOL FanHouse has the details:
- The Padres, who are looking to add a starter, but would prefer to avoid rental players, have discussed Jake Westbrook (a free agent after 2010) and Jeremy Guthrie (a free agent after 2012), among others. Guthrie would like to play for the Padres.
- Krasovic hears that Adrian Gonzalez will seek an eight-year deal when he becomes a free agent after the 2011 season. It sounds like a lot, but it’s not surprising. After all, Mark Teixeira signed an eight-year $180MM deal, so Gonzalez’s representatives could easily use that deal as a starting point.
I believe Guthrie would be a very solid pick up without giving up too much at all. “I like”..
I’ll be the first to comment: some players work hard and put up big numbers and should be paid more than others, but where does it end? Inflation starts by overpaying free agents in the offseason (ie: AJ Burnett) becasue they are the best available that year. Then others use that as a starting point on what they should earn and before u know it people are gonna b asking for 8 years and $180 mil! wait….
“Krasovic hears that Adrian Gonzalez will seek an eight-year deal when he becomes a free agent after the 2011 season.”
Adios Amigo!
See ya Adrian!
Of course Guthrie would like to play for the Padres. He gets out of the AL East and moves to a great pitchers park while going from a cellar dweller to a first place team. What’s not to like?
I’m here to tell you that Guthrie might win a Cy Young pitching in San Diego. He’s a battler, doesn’t give in, is not afraid to pound inside and throws a hellacious sinker when he’s on. His ball comes at you in the mid 90s, I’ve seen him hit 96-97 and has a ton of movement. His problem is, when he gets the ball up and it flattens out. He also has a tendency to over throw and it affects his control. He gives up a lot of HRs, but that could be a product of pitching in a good hitter’s park with a short right field and against the Yankees, Red Sox, Toronto, and the Rays all the time. He’s also a solid citizen and well known in the community. I’d hate to lose him but he would be a beast in San Diego.
What do you think Baltimore is going to want for Guthrie? I am thinking a major league ready relief pitcher and a pitching prospect like Cory Luebke.
Ryan Webb and Cory Luebke sound about right?
Scott,
The Orioles are pretty well set in the bull pen, they’ve moved starters David Hernandez and Jason Berken there, and both have been outstanding, Berken might be the best relief pitcher in the AL right now, he’s been unhittable. And Hernandez is thought of as a future closer. Not to mention 12 million dollar man Mike Gonzalez is due back from the DL within the week, and Jim Johnson, he of the 97 MPH sinker, is rehabbing. Their needs are primarily a RH power bat, a SS and corner IFs.
Webb’s young and I like his BB/K ration, right at 1-3, but Luebke is 25, still at AAA and his stats don’t jump out at you. Whatever they say about Andy MacPhail, the fact he has put some premier pitching prospects into the Orioles’ system, another, LH Zach Britton, pitched in the futures game and is expected in Baltimore before the end of the year, possible when(if) Guthrie gets traded.
What kind of hitting prospects does San Diego have that fit the RH power, corner infield requirement?
Ken
Aaron Harang would be a good get for them. While he technically is a “rental player,” he makes his home in San Diego and would be wel suited for pitching in Petco. And since the Reds have a surplus of starting pitching, he won’t cost much if the Pads take his salary.
with a 5.5 mil option on a 15 mil a year guy? I’d keep him til next year when u could trade for something awesome
after gonzalez signs somewhere else padre fans are going to be mad saying, “we should have traded him when we went on that make believe run in the first half of 2010.”
Is that anything like the real-life fourth place in which the Giants find themselves as of this morning?
(Sorry, had to.)
why you sorry? its true. the sad thing is we lost 10 out of 12 recently and were only 4 back of the padres. just got swept by the dodgers and 2 games behind them. but give us a week or two and the giants won’t be in 4th. the dodgers will start their slide after the other 3 teams in the race make a few trades.
Can you list any statistics of any players that are playing over their norm? They seem to be playing to their career line and abilities, i dont see any regression unless its based on potential injuires
just that they guys they are facing ar major league hitter and they will adjust to the padres staff. their regression depends on how they adjust to the hitters after they start getting hit. which they will. every pitcher gets hit.
Its not that the padres pitchers are getting lucky swing and misses. They have a great staff and bullpen because of their defense and a lil bit of petco park defense. Honestly i dont see either of those factors regressing. As for specifics, Richard has shown what he can do before this, its not like he is hiding any weaknesses in his game. Leblanc and Latos aren’t showing weaknesses this year they have located their fastballs, that’s all that’s different. Garland and Correia are not having career years at all. The staff as a whole wont have a dropoff unless its an injury. Making a broad statement saying,” that the league will adjust” is making it sound liek the Pads invented the Spread option for football. They are playing good fundamental grind it out, speedy, defensive baseball, which you cant adjust and cant slump.
Well said.
The Padres have started out pithching better than what they will end up. However, they are still very deep and will continue to produce similar to what they have been. I dont expect Leblanc, Garland, or Richards to finish with ERA’s below 3.
The Padres have started out pithching better than what they will end up. However, they are still very deep and will continue to produce similar to what they have been. I dont expect Leblanc, Garland, or Richards to finish with ERA’s below 3.
so what are the padres going to do now that latos is on the DL?
The padres can keep him the rest of this season and all of next and still get 2 1st round draft picks for him. I am not that worried. Adrian wants to stay in SD and will end up signing a deal in the off season, something like 8 years $110 million.
The padres can keep him the rest of this season and all of next and still get 2 1st round draft picks for him. I am not that worried. Adrian wants to stay in SD and will end up signing a deal in the off season, something like 8 years $110 million.
The funny thing is, he will probably still go the Boston. (stirs pot) 🙂
That deal for Buckholtz last year looks better and better every day 😉 lol Looks like Blanks will have a spot in the lineup next year for sure…Maybe they will press fast forward on Decker an see what he’s got in a couple years too? He’s murdering the ball … How about Adrian an 2 prospects for Willingham and Dunn? Dunn can make Petco look like a softball field…. but I’m a big Dunn guy so I’m biased
The thing about Gonzo is he will probably get A LOT of money…. point two.. there are only a FEW teams that can afford him… Boston, the Cubs, MAYBE the Mets..and thats a HUGE maybe… (with their Madoff situation)… the Dodgers messy divorce leaves them out, and the Angels I seriously doubt would spend that much on one player…. and NO the Yankees won’t sign him to be a DH for 180 mil or whatever. They have 2 DH’s ready to go in Arod and Jeter…. If he doesn’t resign with San Diego, Id put my money on Boston.
Yeah I gotta agree there aren’t going to be any other teams willing to spend that amount of money or who can other than Boston..its a sad world of baseball we live in thats why we need a salary cap
There needs to be a better system in place with some sort of cap AND teams NEED to spend the money the Yankees, Cubs, Red Sox etc..send their way in Revenue sharing.. AND no rookie should get some 40 mil contract.,.. its absurd…. there has to be a cap on that too.. its assanine…
Longest sentence ever, But yes there needs to be a cap and a floor on salaries for teams and players.
For the bajillionth time, there is parity in baseball and a cap will do nothing but cause a player’s strike.
If there is parody then how come the top free agents are always signed by the same few teams?
I would think Edison Rincon and Jeudy Valdez would get Westbrook from Cleveland with Cleeveland picking up half of the remainder of Westbrooks contract. If they wanted Cleveland to pay the whole contract the Padres may have to throw in another player.
The only incentive for Cleveland to trade westbrook would be shedding money, so unless the padres fork over: Castro/Forsythe/Rincon then I dont see the Indians picking up more than 30% of his remaing salary
The only incentive for Cleveland to trade westbrook would be shedding money, so unless the padres fork over: Castro/Forsythe/Rincon then I dont see the Indians picking up more than 30% of his remaing salary
You cant use examples from before the economy crashed, in today’s stagnant, wary economical climate, silly!
I Think Adrian is staying in SD, he offer them a deferral option and might be worth keeping him for a few years and if it does not work out trade him to another team that would take over the salary, I am sure the desperate Sox’s will buy him off after a few years
Bo Jackson looked pretty good in the softball game… lets throw him out in left 😉
Yes he did, he can still hit.
I hope they keep Adrian but highly doubt he will sign with the Padres…if he does sign a 8 year deal with the Padres, I hope that happens but I would be so shocked… Guthrie is a great pickup and it would be like a low level prospect…also Padres need a Outfielder either Scott Podsednik, Jose Bautista, B.J. Upton, Xavier Nady, Cody Ross, Josh Willingham, David DeJesus, Corey Hart, or Jayson Werth…one or 2 of them would be perfect and Jed wants to make a avoid rental player which is good news
Personally, I am in favor of Guthrie and DeJesus…. willingham would be OK…. Werth isnt going anywhere
All you Padres Fans, would you guy make this deal? Like the comment if you want that to happen or replay!
Jayson Werth to the Padres
for
Heath Bell to the Philles
Rergadles of how good your BP is you dont trade your closer during a playoff caliber season
The Padres can do it. They have some great bullpen arms, some of which could easily take over the closer role.
Please elaborate, Webb Rookie, Adams, Injured, Gregorson, slumping, thatcher, L specialist, Mujica Not good. Werth is having a career year in a walk season who wants the world for his next contract. Also im pretty sure Hoyer has said he wants long term players not rentals.
Mujica may not be “good” be is not bad either. Also, I just dont see the Phillies trading anyone that is currently contributing.
Mujica may not be “good” be is not bad either. Also, I just dont see the Phillies trading anyone that is currently contributing.
I would make that deal in a second. All Star level outfielder with multiple tools for a closer…yes please.
Unfortunately I don’t think Philly will bite!
I would take the deal but i would rather keep heath and get someone like Jose Batista or B.J. Upton and some pitcher like Ricky Nolasco, Jeremy Guthrie, Edwin Jackson, or Shaun Marcum… need to get one for pitching and batting and the padres can still contend
I would take the deal but i would rather keep heath and get someone like Jose Batista or B.J. Upton and some pitcher like Ricky Nolasco, Jeremy Guthrie, Edwin Jackson, or Shaun Marcum… need to get one for pitching and batting and the padres can still contend
Stay Classy San Diego! 🙂
**Some considerations–Long time fair weather (admittedly) Padre fan and honorary GM…The one big x factor (like a poker player not showing his cards) is what the payroll is or will be at points with this ongoing transaction to Moorad. Recall, our payroll used to be $70+ mill just a few years back. Then we shed fat for the sale and down to a paltry $38 mill I believe. This impacts everything. Jed Moyer has come out and said he has “flexibility” to add players or add payroll at this deadline with this 1st place surprise we’re in. Well, I should hope so and we better trade for a known batsman or two. We need guys that hit for average and drive in runs. Names like Hart, DeJesus, Willingham, Dunn, Scott, etc would help a lot. This would stabalize our lineup and not put so much damn pressure on our staff to pitch a perfect game everytime. And, keep us fans from growing old faster by all these 1 run games or come-from-behind victories; yeesh.
The other note is since our payroll is sooo low and we’re winning with what we have you’d think they could afford to pay Adrian some 15 mill/year to keep the face of the franchise. They’ve said they plan on getting back to the $70+ mark so pay Adrian his worth and move on. I’m in the mindset they could justify payouts to a few top tier guys and average a tick or two over 30,000 fans/game to help pay for it.
I would like to see the Padres aquire both Dejesus and Willingham. This would dramatically change the lineup and make them a serious WS contender. The deals would go something like:
Venable/Castro for Dejesus
Denorfia/Adams(assuming he is healthy enough to trade)/Carrillo or Ramos for Willingham
The Padres have a ton of minor league pitching that can be dealt, especially since the majority of their major league staff is young and under control.
Imagine:
Cabrera
Eckstein
Dejesus
Gonzalez
Willingham
Headley
Cunningham
Torreable/Hundley
I would like to see the Padres aquire both Dejesus and Willingham. This would dramatically change the lineup and make them a serious WS contender. The deals would go something like:
Venable/Castro for Dejesus
Denorfia/Adams(assuming he is healthy enough to trade)/Carrillo or Ramos for Willingham
The Padres have a ton of minor league pitching that can be dealt, especially since the majority of their major league staff is young and under control.
Imagine:
Cabrera
Eckstein
Dejesus
Gonzalez
Willingham
Headley
Cunningham
Torreable/Hundley
**Some considerations–Long time fair weather (admittedly) Padre fan and honorary GM…The one big x factor (like a poker player not showing his cards) is what the payroll is or will be at points with this ongoing transaction to Moorad. Recall, our payroll used to be $70+ mill just a few years back. Then we shed fat for the sale and down to a paltry $38 mill I believe. This impacts everything. Jed Moyer has come out and said he has “flexibility” to add players or add payroll at this deadline with this 1st place surprise we’re in. Well, I should hope so and we better trade for a known batsman or two. We need guys that hit for average and drive in runs. Names like Hart, DeJesus, Willingham, Dunn, Scott, etc would help a lot. This would stabalize our lineup and not put so much damn pressure on our staff to pitch a perfect game everytime. And, keep us fans from growing old faster by all these 1 run games or come-from-behind victories; yeesh.
The other note is since our payroll is sooo low and we’re winning with what we have you’d think they could afford to pay Adrian some 15 mill/year to keep the face of the franchise. They’ve said they plan on getting back to the $70+ mark so pay Adrian his worth and move on. I’m in the mindset they could justify payouts to a few top tier guys and average a tick or two over 30,000 fans/game to help pay for it.
Mark my words Adrian will be in Boston in the beginning of 2012 or before then and if that happens it wont be the end of the world for all just the Yankees.Him in that lineup just makes the Red Soc sick.
try is padres line up: 1.eckstein 2.tejada/hariston 3.gonzo 4.headley 5.hunley 6.dye/hariston/denorfia 7.w.m pena 8.GYWNN 9.LATOS