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Players, Owners Close In On Deal

By Zach Links | November 13, 2011 at 10:18am CDT

Players and owners are in near-agreement on draft-related issues, a source with knowledge of the negotiations told Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports.  A deal could be struck as soon as today or Monday but other significant issues remain, making it possible that the negotiations will stretch into the latter part of the week.

The two sides would like to reach an agreement Sunday or Monday as the general managers’ meetings start Tuesday in Milwaukee, the owners meet Thursday, and the union is holding meetings for agents Monday through Wednesday.  The new deal is expected to put a lid on the amount of money teams spend on draft picks and overhaul draft-pick compensation for free agents.

The current deal expires on December 11th but it would be a shock if the two sides did not hammer out a new five-year deal before then.  Significant progress was made in the talks last week.

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  1. Dodgersarelife

    9 years ago

    BASKETBALL learn from baseball!!!! These guys actually have college degrees!

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    • Tired_OF_FakeRumors

      9 years ago

      Fisher is very inteligent

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    • sports33

      9 years ago

      I think at the time Moneyball was released, there were 5 guys in the bigs with four-year college degrees. I could be wrong though…

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    • Tom

      9 years ago

      The college degree most of them get are useless.

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    • FamousGrouse

      9 years ago

      Craig Breslow has a  a B.A. in molecular biophysics and biochemistry from Yale.

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    • mikefromchi

      9 years ago

      They play 162 games and teams earn in hundreds of millions. when you have the yankees spending 200 mil and phillies close to that, its hard to argue

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    • mikefromchi

      9 years ago

      They play 162 games and teams earn in hundreds of millions. when you have the yankees spending 200 mil and phillies close to that, its hard to argue

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  2. Guest

    9 years ago

    “A deal could be struck as soon as today or Monday but other significant
    issues remain, making it possible that the negotiations will stretch
    into the latter part of the week.”

    I’m starting to notice there are more and more “This just in: something MIGHT happen sometime in the near-ish future” posts on this website.  It just seems like there’s a growing level of baseless posts instead of credible rumors.  Can’t say that hasn’t affected my opinion of this site some.  Anyone else notice that or is it just me?

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    • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex

      9 years ago

      I know!!! Why are they posting these rumours if they aren’t 100% true?!?!?

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      • John

        9 years ago

        If they are 100% true then they’re not rumors.

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        • Onetimeaccount

          9 years ago

          “What is sarcasm and how do i interpret it?”

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          • John

            9 years ago

            You tell me

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            • John W

              9 years ago

              Any post that end with “/s” is sarcasm. /s

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              • John

                9 years ago

                Okayyyyyy?

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      • Crucisnh

        9 years ago

        Maybe because the name of this web site is MLB Trade RUMORS, not MLB Facts.

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        • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex

          9 years ago

          I laughed

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          • notsureifsrs

            9 years ago

            me too, @ random emphasis of TRADE

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            • Crucisnh

              9 years ago

              Oops.  Sorry, that was my bad.  I meant it to be on “rumors”.  I fixed it.  

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        • Cubs4Ever

          9 years ago

          I saw that same joke on here a few days ago.

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        • Guest

          9 years ago

          Cleared it up for you, since you entirely missed the point.  I’ll try and dumb stuff down for you more from here on out.

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          • Crucisnh

            9 years ago

            I wasn’t replying to you, blurba.  When a person questions why this site is reporting rumors, I feel honor bound to point out that that’s what this site is entirely about … reporting rumors.

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            • FunkyTime

              9 years ago

              And when a person uses 5 exclamation points in one post you should understand that they’re being sarcastic.

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      • Guest

        9 years ago

        You guys completely missed the point.  It’s one thing to come to this site for interesting, substantive rumors, but lately there has been less substance.  I understand what a “rumor” is, genius.

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        • Onetimeaccount

          9 years ago

          So youre saying the non-rumor articles are taking away from the actual rumors? I’d rather speculative or barely informative reads than nothing at all.

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          • Guest

            9 years ago

            I’d actually rather just spend my time doing something else than read what some writer is carelessly guessing might happen.  I guess that’s just me, though.  Kind of assumed most people were on here to find out what was actually happening between teams in the offseason.

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    • Onetimeaccount

      9 years ago

      No youre the only one who notices these types of things, ever. What else have you noticed on this site that we probably missed?

      As for the ”updates”, I’m fine with them when it concerns things such as the CBA talks.

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      • Guest

        9 years ago

        I noticed that you’re probably not a lot of fun to hang out with.

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        • Crucisnh

          9 years ago

          I’ve noticed that you seem to be a bit of a jerk.  ;)

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  3. Jonathunder

    9 years ago

    I don’t know what I would do if there was no baseball season…

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    • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex

      9 years ago

      watch baske… wait, lol.

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      • John

        9 years ago

        I’m waiting

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        • WillieMaysField

          9 years ago

          I wish MLB network would play old world series games. I watched a NBA finals game last night from 1975.

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          • FamousGrouse

            9 years ago

            They would just make you cry as you remember how good Vin Scully (and even Bob Costas) was when compared to Joe Buck.

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      • Encarnacion's Parrot

        9 years ago

        Basketball is was in the winter.

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        • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex

          9 years ago

          orly?

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          • Encarnacion's Parrot

            9 years ago

            For serious.

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            • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex

              9 years ago

              I had no idear

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              • Encarnacion's Parrot

                9 years ago

                Neither did I.

                Yes, I’m playing along with you.

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                • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex

                  9 years ago

                  orly?

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                  • Encarnacion's Parrot

                    9 years ago

                    For serious.

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                    • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex

                      9 years ago

                      I had no idear

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                      • Encarnacion's Parrot

                        9 years ago

                        Haha way too funny.

                        For the sake of liking my disqus account: #endgame.

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  4. marchboy4

    9 years ago

    Lets get this deal over with we dont need a lockout. Also, what are your guys thoughts on the possible free agent compensation for Type A free agents.

    BTW im new and I love the cubs.

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    • Patrick OKennedy

      9 years ago

      Most likely, they will have all compensation picks in the form of supplemental round “sandwich” picks, but teams that sign a Type A free agent will not lose a draft pick for signing them.   I’d like to see the compensation based on the average annual value of the contract that the player signs with his new club, rather than the Elias formula.   That would be a better reflection of the actual value of the player that was lost, for which the former club is being compensated. 

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    • Cubs4Ever

      9 years ago

      Ya! That picture is perfect. Pay the man 40MM over 50 years I dont care!

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  5. cyberboo

    9 years ago

    Just an interesting scenario.  If the draft ceiling is capped as suggested, all the players that turned down lucrative deals in the last four years receive what they deserve – nothing for being greedy.  Instead of making 3M, they will have to settle for the going rate, which is one reason 30 of the 31 picks signed in 2011.  Only one declined an offer that would have paid him 2M more than his value and I bet Beedie is regretting his decision now.

    For FA compensation, I can see the same scenario that others see.  If a team loses a type A, they receive 2 sandwich picks, if they lose a type B – they receive one.  That is the only way it remains fair for the smaller market teams, since the big teams would retain their draft pick in the first round.  

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    • Phillies_Aces35

      9 years ago

      Maybe some of them wanted to go to school, not all of them turned down those deals because of greed.

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    • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex

      9 years ago

      oh, it’s the players being greedy, not the multi-millionaire owners? okay.

      PS: Seems to like everything revolves around the blue jays for you. KILL BEEDE

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  6. Encarnacion's Parrot

    9 years ago

    The draft pick compensation is pretty much fine. Just eliminate relievers becoming type-A. Simple.

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  7. LordD99

    9 years ago

    Concerning.  I’ll reserve final judgment until the details are announced, but the idea of putting a “lid” on draft-pick spending is filled with lots of fail.  It will punish smaller-market smart teams such as the Tampa Bay Rays, who allocate more resources toward the draft, and worse, it could end up rewarding the wealthier teams like the Red Sox who will allocate a higher percentage of their money toward the mid-draft picks, who in reality should be top draft picks but have been allowed to slip lower on signability concerns. 

    In fact, the more I think about it, the Yankees seemed to have already been preparing and successfully  implementing a strategy based on this change in the last two drafts, picking toolsy high-school players with some flaws but with high upside with their top pick (their last two players should have been third or fourth rounders), and signing them for lower money. They then direct a higher percentage of money toward the mid to later rounds, signing guys who sunk lower in the draft because of potential signability issues. The Yankees actually spent more money on at least a couple of later-round draft picks than they did on their first-round draft pick.  These type of issues could actually increase with a spending cap, pushing even higher quality players lower in the draft where teams like the Red Sox, Phillies and Yankees will have access to them because the teams drafting first will be spending a huge portion of their budget on big named draftees.

    Worse, it will be much more difficult to draft high-school players, who will opt in greater frequency to go on to college, which will mean MLB teams will opt to draft them at a lower frequency.

    I can even see a scenario where this will actually increase the amount of money paid to the very top picks.

    Yikes, this is stupid.  I’m sure they’ll probably try and put some form of sliding scale in so the teams that finish lower in the standings have more money to spend, but I’m even more sure that this whole thing is going to backfire and will be scrapped and re-worked in the next CBA.

    Bright idea, Bud.

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  8. HolaAmigas

    9 years ago

    Dear NBA, please learn from MLB.

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