The Astros are telling teams that they'd be willing to pay half of the salaries for Carlos Lee or Brett Myers if they were to trade them, tweets Danny Knobler of CBS Sports. However, the team doesn't want to eat any salary in a potential Wandy Rodriguez deal.
Lee is owed $18.5MM in 2012, and the Astros may have to pay more than half of that figure if they hope to move him. While Myers' $11MM salary is more managable, it includes a $3MM buyout on his $10MM 2013 club option. Rodriguez is set to earn $23MM over the next two seasons, but his 2014 club option would turn into a player option if he's dealt, meaning the team acquiring him could be on the hook for another $13MM in '14.
Here are a few more Monday evening Astros notes:
- Besides moving players like Lee and Myers, the Astros' top priority is finding a shortstop, tweets MLB.com's Brian McTaggart.
- The Astros have interviewed a half dozen GM candidates, with a focus on player development and scouting experience, tweets Zachary Levine of the Houston Chronicle.
- The team doesn't have a timetable for hiring their new GM, tweets Stephen Goff of the Houston Examiner.
sounds like wandy wont be going anywhere anytime soon unless the stros have a change of heart
and why should they have too? I’ve been thinking since last year that Wandy is quite a bit underrated. Same thing I heard last year is how they should eat so much cash to deal him. That’s a fair market contract in a world where Mark Buehrle is about to get another 15mil per year deal.
Buehrle has pitched 200+ innings every year since 2001? that 200+ innings each season for a decade
wandy has never in his career pitched 200+ innings in any season so comparing wandy to Buehrle is like comparing apples to oranges
EDIT: apoligiez wandy did have 1 season where he pitched 200+ innings so i give him credit but i still stand by my statement about comparing Buehrle to wandy
Point being, it’s not a negative value contract, I just threw a name out there. Wandy has pitched 200 innings once, and 190+ the last three years, good K ratio and ERA+ of around 120 these seasons averaged. Last year people said they should have just let the Rockies have him, I just don’t get it.
A weak throwing lefty with a career ERA split of 3.44 @ home vs 4.76 away. A career FIP split of 3.82 at home vs a 4.34 away. He turns 33 in January. Throws a weak sauce of a FB that’s sl…… oooooo….. wwwwww….. llllll….. .iiiikkkkkeeee … .thiiissss. And he was signed to contract that states that if he’s traded his option becomes guaranteed (player option) that raises the total remaining deal to 3/$36 mil. If he was only owed 1/$12 then he would be worth what I like to call a “Javy Vazquez” type gamble, but for $36 mil? Nope.
get it now?
your credibility went out the window when you said he never pitched 200 in any season. In 2009 he pitched 205 innnings then 195 and 191 so that is pretty close to your apples and apples.
I will admit that Buehrle is awesome though, but their eras are almost exactly the same as each other, plus there is only 1 Buehrle and last time I checked there are about 20 something teams looking for pitching much less left handed pitchers.
Of course Buehrle pitched in the AL where he isn’t pulled for a pinch hitter. Comparing an AL and NL pitcher’s innings is a pretty lame comparison
Almost as lame as comparing their ERA’s.
I laughed.
While I do agree Wandy is undervalued in the trade market, you also defeated your point by stating he has a fair market contract. Why would a team give prospects when they could acquire a similar talent at a similar price without having to give prospects? The Astros will have to take on salary if they hope to garner a reasonable return.
Because there are a lot more teams looking for starting pitchers than there are free agent starting pitchers. C.J. Wilson, Mark Buehrle, Roy Oswalt, Hiroki Kuroda and Edwin Jackson are the only free agents out there who are close to being as good as Wandy or better, and all of them (aside from maybe Buehrle) have questions marks relating to either age or consistency. In short, supply and demand.
They could have gotten out of the entire contract last year when Colorado claimed him.
Wouldn’t have gotten any prospects in return though.
Yes because the Astros have so much bargaining room. Your organization is going through some really tough times right now so one of the first steps is to replenish the farm system. Trade him + money for some of those Yankees prospects they’re always raving about but scoff at the idea of actually putting them on the major league roster
That and the Mills deals had me saying wtf? and was indicative of the bone headed stubbornness of ownership not recognizing they were not a competitive team and needed to rebuild.
this would make me very mad if i were an astros fan. they aren’t broke; they should eat every dollar if it means getting better talent back
you can bet ticket prices won’t be going down. if they save money in the trade, the fans won’t see a dime in their wallets or on the field. pony up and pay for better prospects
They are going to find out 1st hand the difference the AL will make on Wandy however. Another reason to move him (anywhere) when they have a chance since they are not going to be competitive for afew years and desperately need warm bodies in the farm system.
Wandy for Barney and Colvin maybe?
Stros wanted Rosario from or another top 5 prospect within organization when Rox claimed Wandy off waivers. So Barney and Colvin wouldn’t nearly be enough.
LOL Colvin
I could see the Yankees being interested but not if they have to pick up his entire salary and send the Astros trade prospects. Plus now the option year turns into a player option. Not going to happen with those conditions. Also consider Wandy will turn 33 shortly and his K’s/9 have gone down slightly, his BB/9 have gone up slightly, his HR/9 have gone up slightly as has his WHIP over the last 2 or 3 years.
I think something has to give for the Yankees to bite. Either the Astors have to eat part of the salary or ask for very little in return for the salary dump.
I remember Astro fans (and a writer) under the crazy idea that the Tigers would give them Turner and Dirks and a mid level prospect for him at the trade deadline. I told them then they should take what they get becuase soon they will get nothing. Well guess what, it’s soon. Glad we went with Fister.
If the Astros won’t eat any money, the Reds are out.
The Astros only have to eat half of Lee’s contract because he already ate the other half…he’s gotta be a over deuce and a half, 300lbs by now. In all reality, if they can get something for Wandy and Myers along with dumping Lee, they will be up to square 1. I say up to square 1 because I think they’ve been negative for the past year or two.
Wandy has developed into a really good pitcher. His stats were comparable to C.J. over the past two years. I don’t understand why he doesn’t get any respect.
I’d hold on to him until after Spring Training, when potential contenders realize they need depth to compete.
Hmmmmm….no they weren’t. Wilson has excelled in a very hitter friendly park, under playoff conditions (at least during the season), has been durable and in addition to performing well at home has been as good (2010) if not better (2011) on the road.
Can’t say the same for Wandy.
Pitching in the NL is much different than doing so in the AL. A lesson Wandy will learn if he isn’t traded soon to an NL team.
he’s underrated, but wilson is not a great comparison. adjusted for park and league factors, 2010-2011
FIP-
wilson 78
wandy 99
ERA-
wilson 72
wandy 92
SIERA
wilson 3.80
wandy 3.72
tERA
wilson 3.82
wandy 4.12
Wilson’s two years as a starter
2010: 3.35 ERA, 4.1 BB/9, 7.5 K/9
2011: 2.94 ERA, 3.0 BB/9, 8.3 K/9
Rodriguez
2010: 3.60 ERA, 3.1 BB/9, 8.2 K/9
2011: 3.49 ERA, 3.3 BB/9, 7.8 K/9
Not saying this is definitive of them. Just saying that these two pitchers are not that different.
you took the same stats i just presented and un-adjusted them for park and league factors. but they played in different leagues and very different parks, so that isn’t helpful
wandy is underrated. claiming he compares well to wilson would be overrating him though