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Braves, Rays, Mets Interested In Ryan Theriot

By Mike Axisa | December 29, 2011 at 11:48am CDT

The Braves, Rays, and Mets are among the teams looking at Ryan Theriot, reports Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com (on Twitter). The Reds and Rockies are also said to have interest in the infielder, who was non-tendered earlier this month.

Theriot, 32, hit .271/.321/.342 in 483 plate appearances for the World Champion Cardinals last season. He only stole four bases (in ten chances) though, ending his streak of three consecutive seasons with 20+ steals. Theriot had been in line for a $3.9MM salary his third time though arbitration according to our projections.

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  1. Matt Solum

    11 years ago

    Would love him at SS in Tampa, almost anybody is better than S-Rod and brignac

    Reply
    • TophersReds

      11 years ago

      By SS, you mean “guy that stands between second and third to look intimidating and take up space,” right? Please tell me you saw the ESPN segment devoted to Theriot’s terrible defense, though I do like his bat.

      Reply
    • stpete2you

      11 years ago

      I like Theriot in Tampa Bay, but not at SS.  Ryan has declined at SS, but he is still solid at 2B.  As a right-handed batter against LHP, his BA and OBP are very good.  The questions for the Rays are, (1) how much would it take to get him? and (2) is he THAT much more valuable than Elliot Johnson?  If the price is right, I would like to see TB make that move and implement a rotating platoon.  If there is a LHP on the mound, Theriot could start at 2B, S-Rod can start at SS, and Zobrist can play RF or DH (giving Damon(?) or Joyce a rest).  Against RHPs, Zobrist could play 2B and Brignac could play SS.

      Reply
    • Onetimeaccount

      11 years ago

      Hm? Brignac is well above average at SS. S-Rod is a 2nd baseman.

      Reply
  2. Joe Valenti

    11 years ago

    no

    Reply
  3. PTownBrave

    11 years ago

    Think he would be a good get for the Braves… While he’s not a great defender, he makes up for it with his plate coverage, his speed, and his gritty play…Would be a definite upgrade over Conrad and Lugo from last yr

    Reply
    • erm016

      11 years ago

      And Wilson. 

      Reply
  4. MetsEventually

    11 years ago

    The Riot Sweepstakes 

    Reply
  5. RICHARD

    11 years ago

    For once the Jays aren’t involved.

    Reply
    • joeybw

      11 years ago

      I think that means they are going to sign this one.

      Reply
  6. joeybw

    11 years ago

    Here’s a line I never thought I would type: He may not even be better than the backup infielder, Elliot Johnson.

    I mean, sure he K’s less but when you include defense, if anything, it’s even. I mean if he comes for next to nothing, I guess let him compete with Elliot in ST, although with S-Rod and Brignac already for SS, I would be giving that last spot to a Guyer type….

    Reply
    • cubsfanraysaddict

      11 years ago

      Ya, the riot has more BB’s than K’s vs. LHP and nearly an .800 ops, but S-Rod has basically the same output, actual upside, makes a pittance, and can’t be projected to play any worse than Theriot at SS. I don’t know if he’s better than a guy who shouldn’t make the roster (EJ), but at best, he would be a slight upgrade in case our two near replacement level shortstops go down. Replacement level (had to say it again).

      Reply
  7. NYBravosFan10

    11 years ago

    As a backup? Love it. As insurance in case Pastornicky pulls a Jordan Schafer? Love it. As our opening day starting shortstop? Meh…

    Reply
    • joeybw

      11 years ago

      This dude shouldn’t even be a backup SS, I say backup 2B and break incase of emergency SS. He is no gold glover.

      Reply
      • Suh Girls One Cup

        11 years ago

        Back up shortstops are supposed to be gold glovers?

        Reply
        • joeybw

          11 years ago

          With Tampa, they are! If only there was a designated fielder for Reid Brignac…..

        • 14 Rocks

          11 years ago

          Agree.  Everyone loved Omar Infante.  Theriot is an Infante with speed.

      • NYBravosFan10

        11 years ago

        well the Braves need a backup who can play 2B, SS, and maybe 3B and I’m pretty sure Theriot can do that effectively

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        • bravesdude

          11 years ago

          Drew Sutton is not a bad backup either . But his defense at SS isn’t great . Theriot could backup SS while Sutton backsup 3rd and 2nd .

        • NYBravosFan10

          11 years ago

          having both of those guys presents a big problem when you draw up what the rest of the roster would look like. No room for a backup CFer

        • Jeff

          11 years ago

          Heyward would be backup CF in an emergency.

          You keep Constanza and Hicks at AAA if Bourn goes down.

        • Jeff

          11 years ago

          This is also why I’d want to sign Andruw.  Not really a CF anyone, but he can pretend in a pinch, and Heyward and Prado have plus range at the corners to help out.

        • CowboyJames

          11 years ago

          LMFAO, good thing Jeff isn’t a GM. Good god man. Prado has plus range, Heyward back up CF, The braves need a “Lefty Masher”…What game are you watching?

        • austinhb

          11 years ago

          Prado does have plus range for a LF

    • CoachZ

      11 years ago

      So let me get this straight.  You don’t want him as your everyday SS, but if Pastornicky flops, you’d be fine with him as your every ss?  That doesn’t really make sense?  If you don’t think he’s good enough to handle the job, why would you want him to potentially end up with the job? 

      By the way, Pastornicky is nothing more than the next Tommy Manzella was in Hou…so you might want to hope that whoever they bring in as insurance is capable of doing the job.  Personally I think Theriot would be fine.  Not spectacular defensively but a solid bottom of the order bat with experience as an everyday guy, whose spent time batting in the 1 and 2 hole. 

      The downside is he’s not really capable of playing 3b for any extended period of time..and with Chipper still on the roster, they’ll need someone who can cover for him frequently.  If you move Prado to 3b, then you need a decent 4th OF (Hinske is not that guy).  So signing Theriot wouldn’t make sense for the Braves.  They’d be better of with a more versatile player.

      Reply
      • NYBravosFan10

        11 years ago

        I meant that if we’re forced to use him in case pastornicky goes down i’d be fine with it but i’d rather pasto didn’t go down

        Reply
  8. jwsox

    11 years ago

    No team should be interested in him as a short stop. Now if he officially cones out an says ” look everyone I’m officially making the move to 2nd I’ll only play short in a pinch” then his value skyrockets. A 6.5 career uzr at second plus his bat. That’s a solid player right there.

    Reply
    • Dave M.

      11 years ago

      You’re right about him defensively, but his bat doesn’t have much to offer besides relatively decent splits against LHP (.775 career OPS). He’s been a below-league-average hitter for five seasons running and that includes his one good year (2008) with the Cubs.

      Reply
      • Jeff

        11 years ago

        That’s actually quite useful for the Braves, who need some lefty-mashing.

        Reply
        • Dave M.

          11 years ago

          In a platoon at second base, he might not be so terrible.

        • jwsox

          11 years ago

          there is no way the braves platoon second base they gave a ton of money for ugla there is no way they platoon him unless they are considering moving him to 1st and trading freeman or maybe moving him to left field or trading him along with one of their pitchers

    • CoachZ

      11 years ago

      Shows how much you know about baseball negotiations!  That’s exactly what he told the Cardinals, and as a result they non-tendered him and signed Furcal. 

      It’s true he’s not very good defensively as a SS, but to be dumb enough to tell clubs you’re now just a 2b, and limited your versatility is stupid…and he realizes that now.  Since losing out on the chance to stay in STL, his agent is now billing him as a Utility Inf…which is his best chance and role with any team.

      Reply
  9. hallwagner

    11 years ago

    i hope the mets sign him so i have even more of an excuse to laugh at how pathetic they are

    Reply
  10. AFCFAN06

    11 years ago

    Id like theriot on braves makes alot of sense backup ss/2b maybe 3b if he had to and has decent bat get wren make a splash haha

    Reply
  11. Guest

    11 years ago

    Do it up.
    As long as the fact that’s he’s pretty good doesn’t take away too much playing time for Pastornicky… I’d like to see him up there and given a good, long shot at getting the starting job (as Freeman had)

    Reply
  12. sourbob

    11 years ago

    It’s funny… Hendry was no great Cubs GM, but one of the things he took heat on locally was the players he dealt away or let go. But can any Cub fan honestly say they missed DeRosa or Theriot? Or Choi? Even Wood’s time away from Chicago was mostly middling-to-awful and wildly overcompensated.

    I mean, seriously, Michael Barrett…

    Reply
    • Gregory Pioterek

      11 years ago

      I agree to a point..(especially with Barrett and Choi). However, Theriot and Derosa’a gritty play and attitude is what made them loved, and so good in Chicago.  That is what the Cubs are missing right now, someone who actually wants to play the game, and not just collect a paycheck!

      Reply
  13. craigkimbrelfan

    11 years ago

    Who didn’t see this one coming? 

    Reply
  14. kevmill21

    11 years ago

    wouldn’t even say SS next to his name if not for the cards signing him last year.  the same team that lured berkman and beltran by promising positions they have no worldly business at.  3 in 2 years.  whatever this FO has against passable defense is beyond me.

    Reply
    • inkstainedscribe

      11 years ago

      Cards are taking a page out of the Davey Johnson Mets of the ’80s. Don’t worry about the defense so long as you can score runs by the bushel.

      Reply
  15. BDLugz

    11 years ago

    On top of terrible defense at SS, he’s also one of the worst baserunners I’ve ever had the displeasure to watch.

    Reply
  16. mopapa

    11 years ago

    I love him, he’s my favorite player, but he’s not a shortstop.  I think he’d be a really good second baseman, though.  I hope someone picks him up.  I need a team to root for next season!

    Reply
    • Nick Jones

      11 years ago

      He’s your favorite player? You are going to follow a team because they sign him? That is weird.

      Reply
      • mopapa

        11 years ago

        I follow whatever team my favorite player is on.  He happens to be my favorite player.  Ergo, I will follow the team that signs him.  What makes that weird?

        Reply
    • TophersReds

      11 years ago

      So your saying that you choose the team you root for after you see where a below average player is? At least follow a good player like Pujols, Votto, Bautista, Reyes….somebody.

      Reply
      • mopapa

        11 years ago

        As stated above, I root for the team my favorite player is on.  I don’t choose a “favorite player” based on their skills.  Obviously.  Thank you.

        Reply
        • Dave M.

          11 years ago

          Why is he your favorite player?

        • mopapa

          11 years ago

          I just like the way he plays.  He gives it his all.  He’s not the best, but he’s always trying.  Doesn’t seem to be cocky or arrogant.  Seems to love the game.

        • Dave M.

          11 years ago

          Fair enough, though I’m guessing you haven’t heard or seen too many of Theriot’s radio/TV interviews. He can come across as pretty cocky.

        • TophersReds

          11 years ago

          +1

    • MWholers

      11 years ago

      Are you the last of the displaced Expos fans?

      Reply
      • mopapa

        11 years ago

        Never been an Expos fan.  Reds in the ’60’s and ’70’s (Johnny Bench), Yankees in the ’70’s (Bucky Dent), Cubs later (Sandberg).  Like a player, like the team.  That’s how I roll. 

        Reply
  17. Edward Williams

    11 years ago

    Do you expect me to believe that the Rays would be interested in him. Maddon already said its going to be either s-rod or can’t hit reid. You cant put him on second base because zobrist has that postition. I highly doubt he will be used as a dh

    Reply
  18. Triple Hawpes Brewed

    11 years ago

    Wonder if the Braves could get Sean Rodriguez from the Rays

    Reply
    • R.D.

      11 years ago

      All we have to offer is pitching depth and the Rays are the only team that wouldn’t be interested I’m afraid.

      Still holding out hope for Frazier from Cincy personally but Theriot definitely isn’t the worst option bad defense or not. 

      Reply
  19. Pasquale Severino

    11 years ago

    I wouldn’t mind seeing The Riot in a Met Uniform  but the problem is they don’t have enough money to sign ANYONE good and this year is already gone to Miami. Hope he chokes on all that money……

    Reply

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