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Giants Won’t Re-Sign Beltran Or Ross

By Luke Adams | December 7, 2011 at 7:13pm CDT

The Giants won't re-sign Carlos Beltran or Cody Ross this winter, GM Brian Sabean told reporters, including John Shea of the San Francisco Chronicle (Twitter link). Manager Bruce Bochy hinted as much, after yesterday's Angel Pagan acquisition, saying the Giants seemed "pretty set" in the outfield, writes Andrew Baggarly of the San Jose Mercury News.

"Simply put," Sabean said. "With Ross, we could never get on the same page. And Beltran, we knew it was going to be a stretch."

Here are some other Sabean highlights from Shea and Baggarly:

  • The Giants' payroll is maxed out. They'll have to decide whether to tender a contract to Jeff Keppinger or Mike Fontenot, since they can only afford to retain one. With the help of Matt Swartz, MLBTR projected Fontenot to earn about half as much as Keppinger, so Fontenot may have the edge.
  • Guillermo Mota is choosing between two different payout structures, but both Giants offers are for one year with a big league guarantee.
  • No other roster moves are expected besides non-tenders and minor league signings.
  • If the Giants hadn't traded Ramon Ramirez, they would have tendered him a contract.
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  1. NYBravosFan10

    9 years ago

    heard some talk about the Bravos and Cody Ross today…meh…

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  2. Gigantes9

    9 years ago

    No space for Beltran or Ross in the already overloaded outfield

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    • Rockir

      9 years ago

      What a dud. The Giants owners are thinking like most short term corporate types of public companies. They should have expanded payroll for a year to at least $150m. Then brought it in when the Zito and Rowan contracts fall off. Now the Dodgers will get new owners, Dbacks keep signing and spending. When they finish third at best and Timmy and Cain leave they will done.

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  3. qudjy1

    9 years ago

    Dbacks will repeat unless something crazy happens.

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    • bayareabeast

      9 years ago

      twas a fluke, my friend

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    • SFrush90

      9 years ago

      With our pitching we simply still have a great shot especially with Posey, Freddy, and Pablo back for a full season. We’ll struggle for runs, but the Giants still have a very good shot of winning the division.

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      • qudjy1

        9 years ago

        I dont really disagree.    Certainly Beltran would have helped.   AZ also spent most of the year without Drew last year, so he (assuming he eventually gets back to 100%) will be an improvement over Bloomquist.

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        • SFrush90

          9 years ago

          Ya it’ll be close coming down to the last few weeks or days like in 2010.

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  4. dudemanbro

    9 years ago

    what a great trade that was

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  5. InLeylandWeTrust

    9 years ago

    Melky and Pagan to replace Beltran’s bat..?

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    • Jon Stark

      9 years ago

      ya, that trade looks pretty poor right now. Nicely done by the mets though. Wonder why they didn’t move Reyes…particularly if had thoughts about a rebuild.

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    • bayareabeast

      9 years ago

      no..their replacing ross and torres. posey being back in the lineup will replace beltrans bat, as long as he performs like he did before he was hurt.

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      • Matt

        9 years ago

        So then the offense hasn’t improved.

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        • bayareabeast

          9 years ago

          i think the lineup with him in it would be just a weeee bit of an improvement than him not in it..i guess to each his own

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  6. bayareabeast

    9 years ago

    we just won a world series and sold out every game, but were at our limit. cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.

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    • Michael J. Loera

      9 years ago

      Aaron Rowand, Barry Zito. Nuff said

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      • bayareabeast

        9 years ago

        throw huff in there too..hopefully zito cuts his left arm off cooking some kind of organic bs and voids his contract. you can only hope

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        • Michael J. Loera

          9 years ago

          LOL made my night

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  7. loadtimes

    9 years ago

    Why don’t they trade Bruce Bochy? You could throw a dart out the window and hit a better manager.

    Though I guess since his team won the World Series two years ago he’ll never leave.

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    • Darmintak

      9 years ago

      They could trade him, but they’d have to eat his whole salary, and possibly throw in a PTBNL!

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  8. RepOak

    9 years ago

    Same news different day. We all knew they wernt getting signed. Let’s move on..

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  9. Michael J. Loera

    9 years ago

    Okay so we have Sheirholtz, Cabrera, Pagan, Huff, Belt, that can play outfield.  Then we have Huff, Belt, Pill that can play 1st.  Plus you have to think of Posey playing 1st so he doesn’t have “strain” on his body from catching.  I’m thinking we’re going to make a trade before the trade deadline that sends Huff and some other relief pitcher to a team for a mediocre player, albeit an outfielder or infielder.  We should just make that trade now and get a decent shortstop in return.  Those are just Pipe dreams though.  As for FonteNOT and Keppinger, although Kepp is worth more he’s FAR more valuable than Fontenot.  Kepp almost NEVER strikes out, look at his stats. It’s unheard of in a giants lineup.  Keep Kepp and let fontenot go, end of story.

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    • WillieMaysField

      9 years ago

      Keppinger can only play a week 2nd. Fonetenot can play 2nd, SS, and 3rd. Hitting is about the same career wise. Fontenot make half as much. Fontenot stays

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  10. Shahin Shahbazi

    9 years ago

    I hate this team. Replace Beltran with Melky Cabrera and trade away Sanchez. We’ve gotten worse since last year. Next up we’re going to sign Omar Vizquel.

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  11. SFrush90

    9 years ago

    I learn about the Pagan trade last night and even though I knew Beltran wasn’t coming back, this just confirms it. Happy Birthday to me!

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  12. qudjy1

    9 years ago

    Hanley would be a good guy to target for SF.

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  13. NYPOTENCE

    9 years ago

    Now where is the Giants offense going to come from???? Worst offense in the league last year and now they are hoping for production from Pagan and Melky. Don’t think it’s going to work.

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  14. rainyperez

    9 years ago

    As disappointing as this sounds Posey and Sanchez are back. So let’s hope for great health and no freak accident collisions. Those two already make the offense a whole lot better. Lineup will have to be this…

    1. Pagan CF
    2. Sanchez 2B
    3. Sandoval 3B
    4. Posey C
    5. Huff LF
    6. Belt/Pill 1B
    7. Schierholtz RF
    8. Crawford SS
    9. Pitcher

    Left handed heavy still need some sort of RH power off the bench. My guess is that the Giants will now try to extend Cain and Lincecum as priority number 1 after the winter meetings.

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    • Hubbs2

      9 years ago

      Cabrera will be in left, and huff will likely be at first. Belt doesn’t have enough vetrany goodness for boch to play him

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      • rainyperez

        9 years ago

        For some reason I forgot to mention Cabrera. We’ll see what they do. 

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      • genius.gm.on.mlb.the.showbaybombers

        9 years ago

        in fact boch said he wanted belt at 1B, and huff in left yesterday at the winter meetings. I obviously dont know if he means it so im not trying to say you’re wrong or an anything haha

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  15. scott

    9 years ago

    The Giants will be worse at Pitching by getting rid of Ramirez and Sanchez. On offense, they swapped Beltran, Ross, and Torres for Melky and Pagan. Not looking good for the Giants. 

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  16. candlestick22

    9 years ago

    Come on ownership group. There’s no reason why they should not be trying to make a Beltran contract work. And now it looks like they don’t need to outbid a deep pockets club like the Red Sox. You think Timmy and Cain want to sign long term deals after watching these ho-hum moves and then hearing “we’re done”????

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  17. scott

    9 years ago

    I really wish the Giants could find some sucker to take Huff’s contract, that is looking like a really bad deal now. Let’s not forget Zito and Rowand’s deal’s either. Without those deals, we could easily have Reyes and Beltran in the lineup.  

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  18. SC_Giants_28

    9 years ago

    Let me get this straight. The Giants have made two moves (Melky and Pagan) both of which were said to have saved money, and yet there is no money to spend on any free agents? So we had negative dollars to spend this offseason. SMH

    Someone was joking (I think) about signing of Omar Vizquel. Now that we know we are not spending anything, I don’t think it would be a bad idea, he could mentor Crawford and play once or twice a week. (Worked for the Rangers with Andrus). 

    Another thought, now that Beltran’s market seems to be very thin, isnt there a way we can sign him with some deferred money (ala Bonds) or backload his contract once Rowand and Zito money is out the way? What would take to sign him 2/20 with an option? 

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    • genius.gm.on.mlb.the.showbaybombers

      9 years ago

      yeah i think you’re onto something, they could definitely backload it.

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      • SC_Giants_28

        9 years ago

        Will they though? I really doubt it. I love my giants but damn, its hard to not be mad when we have known for years that we need a power bat in the lineup, yet we have not been given one. Its not like we are asking for a Pujols or Fielder (God knows we have zero chance at that). We are asking for Beltran here, a guy that will not require a lot of years or 20 Mil or even 15 mil. 

        You would think that all those sellouts and all they money that has been coming, product of the World Series, would be able to provide for that. 

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        • genius.gm.on.mlb.the.showbaybombers

          9 years ago

          Yeah the ownership group is being cheap right now, we sacrificed with the sellouts and they thank us this way. Rowand and Zito’s contracts infuriate me, we could have gotten reyes at least. More than Beltran. They better consider backloading a contract at least.

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  19. genius.gm.on.mlb.the.showbaybombers

    9 years ago

    The ownership group should have expanded the payroll just for this year, then bring it back down next year. At least give a oppurtunity to get a impact position player damn

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    • HummBaby

      9 years ago

      Are you as excited as I about having Zito for 2 more years and then a $4 million buyout for the year after that? Maybe getting married this offseason will get Zito’s head straight. We all know he was messed up over his breakup with Alyssa Milano.

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      • genius.gm.on.mlb.the.showbaybombers

        9 years ago

        Peter Mcgowan did some great things, first and foremost keeping the giants here, and signing bonds, then AT&T. But that zito deal is just a crime.
        Yeah marry Miss Missouri or whoever she is should change him. Zito should be feeling great. Maybe he goes back to his 2002 form because of it? lol

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  20. smiting_god

    9 years ago

    It doesn’t even seem like The Giants are kicking the tires on Beltran.  I guess I’m out of the loop but it doesn’t seem they would even have that much competition for his services. 

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  21. smiting_god

    9 years ago

    It doesn’t even seem like The Giants are kicking the tires on Beltran.  I guess I’m out of the loop but it doesn’t seem they would even have that much competition for his services. 

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  22. giantsfan650

    9 years ago

    What a way to do a sneak attack on the fans. Ownership extends Sabean and Bochy’s contract, and raise ticket prices next year. Geez, what a way to thank the fans. 

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  23. Brian Lutz

    9 years ago

    Man, this is truly and 100% f-cked up. 
    My solution?????OCCUPY AT&T!!!!Who’s with me!!!!!!!???

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