Let's round up a few Winter Meetings leftovers…
- C.J. Wilson was a little disappointed the Rangers didn't try to make more of an effort to re-sign him, writes Richard Durrett of ESPN.com. The Yankees also passed on a final opportunity to get involved on Wilson, tweets Bob Klapisch of the Bergen Record.
- Gregor Chisholm of MLB.com has a rundown of comments made this morning by Blue Jays GM Alex Anthopoulos on Kelly Johnson, Yu Darvish, and potential areas of need.
- John Manuel of Baseball America shares some thoughts and quotes relating to this morning's Rule 5 draft.
- The Nationals didn't make any major moves at the Winter Meetings, but GM Mike Rizzo says they're still "open for business," as MLB.com's Bill Ladson writes.
- Geoff Baker of the Seattle Times says the Angels' signing of Albert Pujols is a wake-up call for the Mariners. Several Cardinals players were surprised by Pujols' decision, according to MLB.com's Matthew Leach. For more reactions and fallout on Pujols, click here.
- The Rays and Mets could be among the suitors for Ivan Rodriguez, who is working out in Miami, tweets Jon Heyman of MLB Network.
- The Rockies are expected to sign Mike Ekstrom to a minor league deal, tweets Troy Renck of the Denver Post.
- Yahoo's Jeff Passan thinks the Angels and Marlins might regret spending so aggressively this offseason.
The Rox have officially eclipsed the Angels in big news today and sign the future Hall of Famer Mike Ekstrom to a record deal
The Rox have officially eclipsed the Angels in big news today and sign the future Hall of Famer Mike Ekstrom to a record deal
Am I the only one that hates Jeff Passan? When he isn’t stating the obvious, he is an unwavering pessimist. Always. At least the other writers are funny sometimes…
yeah me too he’s a tight wad
Am I the only one that hates Jeff Passan? When he isn’t stating the obvious, he is an unwavering pessimist. Always. At least the other writers are funny sometimes…
Wilson is shocked? The Rangers knew enough about Wilson not to want to keep him around and the Yankees knew that if the Rangers didn’t want him, why would they?
They way I look at it is that if CJ really wanted to even stay with Texas, he would’ve looked into the 4 year deal a bit more. So if one extra year is enough to make him walk from the team that gave him the opportunities he’s gotten and go to their main rivals, then good riddance and best of luck to him (when he’s not playing Texas).
The Rangers made CJ an offer just to say thank you for your time. They knew he wouldn’t take the offer. You could tell the Rangers just didn’t want him back. It was obvious.
It’s not that Texas didn’t want him back, it just seemed they knew something about CJ that other teams don’t to make them not want to offer that extra year or two.
CJ Wilson said what he did was a reverse of what Nolan Ryan did, going from the Angels to his home state of Texas.
Pretty sure Wilson thought he was better and further established than what he actually is. I’m glad the Tigers didn’t make a run for him, he looked average at best in the playoffs, certainly not worth top-starter money. I think the Angels just re-signed Lackey.
he didn’t get top starter money
the deal was pretty fair value when you take in to consideration the last few years of comparables.
he didn’t get top starter money
the deal was pretty fair value when you take in to consideration the last few years of comparables.
“Average” in the playoffs is being generous. He was so freaking ineffective in October. Lousy performance, yet told the media he pitched well.
Opposed to those dredful numbers verlander put up?
The rangers made a huge mistake and i doubt either team had that thought process
I don’t think Texas made a mistake at all. Texas knows CJ far better than any other team in this league and there’s a very good reason why JD didn’t give him that extra year and a few extra millions. I bet Texas will be big players for Yu Darvish as well.
There was no mistake. I don’t know what you’re talking about. If Texas wanted CJ back they had more than enough money to do just that. They obviously had no desire to bring him back.
Wilson is shocked? The Rangers knew enough about Wilson not to want to keep him around and the Yankees knew that if the Rangers didn’t want him, why would they?
passan is as bad as chris chase.
The Marlins are definitely not spending much more moving forward outside of maybe a run for Cespedes. But you can bank on Pudge being a Marlin next year.
The Marlins are definitely not spending much more moving forward outside of maybe a run for Cespedes. But you can bank on Pudge being a Marlin next year.
Here’s how Heyman came up with the Ivan Rodriguez rumor:
“The Marlins are spending a lot, Rodriguez used to play there. They could want him. The Mets would like a catcher. With Reyes gone, no one wears 7 which is the number Rodriguez always wears. Yeah, those make sense. Time to tweet them!”
It says Rays, not Marlins. But thanks for trying.
I sometimes confuse the 2 Florida teams no one cares about.
Did you come up with that on your own? Good job!
It says Rays, not Marlins. But thanks for trying.
“CJ Wilson was a little disappointed the Rangers didn’t try to make more of an effort to sign him.” ~~ In other news, the Rangers were a little disappointed that C.J. Wilson actually believed his 43 career wins were deserving of $15.5 million per year.
Clayton Kershaw has 47 career wins… pretty sure u’d give him more than 16 mil a year right?
You’re dang right I’d give Kershaw that kind of contract. Clayton Kershaw is 23 years old. CJ Wilson is 31. Clayton Kershaw won the Cy Young and a Gold Glove this year. CJ Wilson did not. Kershaw is better than Wilson in every conceivable way…what’s your point?
my point is that Wins are a useless stat.
Perhaps I should have said “the Rangers were a little disappointed that C.J. Wilson acutally believed that as a 31 year old starter with 43 career wins he was deserving of $15.5 million per year.” Would that satisfy you?
nope.
Why does he deserve that much less than Lackey, Burnette ?
The cost of FA pitchers is through the roof its just how it is
Aww, bitter much? Wilson is leaving a hitters haven to a pitchers paradise. Just like Kershaw has in Dodgers’ stadium. Wilson is going from having all the stress of a #1 to being a #3/4 guy. He also is pitching close to home. Rangers have talented, cheap, young arms coming up and that’s the only reason they did not offer big money to CJ. Plus the amazing weather of Orange County will preserve a health nut even more like Wilson. Oh and CJ Wilson now has 16 Golden Glove awards backing him up. Halos out!
Not bitter. CJ is a talented pitcher but he is very much overrated. Plus I think the reason Texas let CJ leave is because they know they have a group of Lewis, Feliz, Holland, Ogando, Harrison and Feldman to make a very good rotation (albeit still with no proven ace) with Perez and Ramirez waiting in the wings. Also you can’t forget that Texas wants to lock up their stars and go after Yu Darvish.
And Robbie Ross!
True. I think Ross might still be a year away though. And Ross will never have ace talent but I definitely see him being a very good, workhorse 3 starter in a few years.
Basing your arguement around Gold Gloves is dumber than investing your money in stocks for the Green Bay Packers.
Right because defense is completely irrelevant when coming to winning baseball games. You really need to learn this game. And if you want to say “We, the Green Bay Packers” are the best team in NFL because you actually are a part owner, then it isn’t so dumb.
Those date back how far?
wilson wishes he could be kershaw…..kershaw and verlander are the best there is going right now……wilson can take his average rear to anaheim and hope they dont need him to pitch in the playoffs….
Clayton Kershaw has 47 career wins… pretty sure u’d give him more than 16 mil a year right?
I wouldn’t say Angels will regret it.. Arte’s got Bank and Pujols has to be the best player to invest in..you pay the guy 254M and you get more than what you paid in return..This has positives in every way..
For now.. eventually it will become a bad contract. Its inevitable..
however if the Angels win 2 -3 Championships before his performance slips considerably, its well worth it
I hope it’s 4+ Championships having that Trout will come 2013 for sure and Trout with Pujols will bolster the offense
lets not get too excited..
lol your right..This has just got me inpatient for the season though and have high hopes on Angels..Also since i didn’t expect Angels getting Pujols and on top of that they got Cj..Like everyone else out there ..And i can’t wait to see what they can do!..It’s like a perfect world just like Jerry was explaining the other day in his interview! this man makes Miracles happen!
maybe Albert can teach Vernon Wells how to hit?
nah Albert will get to frustrated at him..Glad Mathis is gone if not it would be worse
Mathis is a lock to post a wOBA of .400 next year just so you know
Ya since he will only play 10 games
I hope its only 10!!
I heard its 11 =O
nah Albert will get to frustrated at him..Glad Mathis is gone if not it would be worse
Wells and Hunter are going to have solid .280/25hr/80+ rbi season due to the lack of pressure. I think Howie is going to be top 5 in MVP this upcoming season as well.
lol
bada bing!!!
For now.. eventually it will become a bad contract. Its inevitable..
however if the Angels win 2 -3 Championships before his performance slips considerably, its well worth it
Baker doesn’t know a thing about roster construction and building a perennial contender. You don’t just sign a player for eleventy billion dollars because you can afford to. You build from within then pull the trigger on the big guy when you’re close. He’s continually tried to influence the front office with his agenda. It’s getting old.
eleventy isn’t a real number.
This exactly. Please stop referencing Baker, he’s a terrible beat writer and he has absolutely no concept of the objective business of baseball. He makes has the patience of a hormonal teenager. If it weren’t for Larry Stone, the Seattle Times would be unbearable.
Baker doesn’t know a thing about roster construction and building a perennial contender. You don’t just sign a player for eleventy billion dollars because you can afford to. You build from within then pull the trigger on the big guy when you’re close. He’s continually tried to influence the front office with his agenda. It’s getting old.
I actually agree with Baker for a change. Seattle is the smallest market in that division and with Houston coming in will be even smaller. The team is losing and ownership cut payroll, so they can’t spend their way out and keep the fans happy. The system is moving in the right direction but it’s still depressing.
You have to know that even with Fielder, the Mariners have no hope
whatsoever of competing in 2012. So if your rivals just spent a third
of a billion dollars on two players, what do you do? Acquire as much
high quality young talent as possible and gear up to dominate the league
for half a decade starting in 2014. Playing keeping up with the Jonses is the absolute wrong thing to do for the Mariners.
Exactly why they should trade the Rangers Felix Hernandez for our young talent. They can help us alot now, where as we’ll help them alot in the near future.
Fielder, Darvish, Cespedes, Oswalt(bit of a stretch)
If Rizzo doesn’t land a single one of the above, this off-season is a failure
Throw the fans a bone. How about that? Prince probably won’t have his best year his first year in the AL. But if you’re talking about contending in 2013 and beyond, by the time Prince has adjusted to the AL pitching the rest of the team will catch up.
With the Mariners’ luck, Fielder would come here and bat .250 with 25 homers.
Unrelated; but here’s a proposal for the Jays which Might work, but all would have to fall in place:
Jays Sign Prince Fielder for 5 years with vesting options for 6 and 7; which would negate criticisms about his weight.
To TB:
Adam Lind
Prospect? (if needed)
To TOR:
Joel Peralta
JP Howell
Jays Move JP Arenciba to Part time DH/1B, alternating with Prince.
Jays call up D’Arnaud for full-time starting duty.
Potential Lineup
SS Escobar
LF/CF/RF Thames/Snider
3B/2B Lawrie
RF/3B Bautista
1B/DH Fielder
CF Rasmus
DH/1B/C Arencibia
2B/LF Johnson
C D’Arnaud
Bench
C Mathis
DH/1B/3B (hopefully not 3B) Encarnacion
2B/SS Valbuena
OF/PR Davis
Rotation
SP Romero
SP Morrow
SP Alvarez
SP McGowan
SP Cecil/Drabek/FA Acquisition
Bullpen
RP Janssen
RP Villanueva
RP Howell
RP Peralta
RP Carreno
RP Perez
CP Santos
(with maybe a FA Aquisition as a RP)
Seems to be a contending lineup to me.
Thoughts?