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Marlins Notes: Fielder, Oviedo, Green, Buehrle

By Luke Adams 2 | December 8, 2011 at 10:07pm CDT

The Marlins offered huge deals to Albert Pujols and C.J. Wilson, but the pair of free agents opted to sign with the Angels for less money. Will the Marlins turn their attention to the top free agents still available? Joe Capozzi of the Palm Beach Post tweets that he wouldn't be surprised to see the Marlins "at least kick the tires" on Prince Fielder, despite their insistence they don't have interest (Twitter link). Here are the rest of the latest Marlins updates:

  • Juan Carlos Oviedo, formerly Leo Nunez, was arrested in his native Dominican Republic today, but won't face false identity charges, according to an AP report (via ESPN.com).
  • The Marlins will sign Nick Green to a minor league deal, tweets Joe Frisaro of MLB.com.
  • Ozzie Guillen wants White Sox fans to know that he didn't steal Mark Buehrle away from the Sox, as he told ESPN 1000 today (hat tip to ESPN Chicago).
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  1. Thomas Cassidy

    14 years ago

    Then why the hell did they arrest him?

    Reply
  2. $7562574

    14 years ago

    marlins’ plan; sign free agents, win a world series, sell everybody.

    Reply
    • EdinsonPickle

      14 years ago

      Yeah, they’ll probably do that. You know except for the win the World Series part.

      Reply
    • Diablo 2

      14 years ago

      That ain’t gonna Happen..They won’t even reach the WS..There’s team’s called the Phills,Braves,Cards,D-Backs,Brew Crew

      Reply
      • CaseyBlakeDeWitt

        14 years ago

        Hey, did you think the Cards were going to win the WS this year?

        Reply
        • Diablo 2

          14 years ago

          I honestly didn’t i was expecting to See D-backs or Brewers in the WS..But when they reached the WS and it was Vs Tex i really wanted them to win because i love Pujols,Carp,and Molina and i ain’t a big fan of Tex fans..

          Reply
          • CaseyBlakeDeWitt

            14 years ago

            I actually thought D-backs, then Brewers as well, but I went the opposite in the World Series. I hate the three guys you named. Haha

            Reply
        • cards2WS

          14 years ago

          The Cards always were a top team. Long slumps (Albert, Rasmus, Theriot, Carp) and stupid injuries (everyone) were the reason we weren’t a 96 win team. Plus, in April our BP blew a bazillion saves (Thanks Franklin). In the playoffs our talent was just as good as anyone in the NL portion.

          We were legit contenders. No one predicted we’d make it to the WS cuz we were facing Philly and their ‘amazing unbeatable pitching.’

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          • CaseyBlakeDeWitt

            14 years ago

            I never said the Cards weren’t a good team. Clearly they were, since they won, but I don’t think they were really the best team. 

            Once Wainwright went down pretty much everyone counted them out, and when they were down in September everyone counted them out, and then in each playoff series they were the underdogs. It’s not that they weren’t good, it’s that they weren’t expected to win the world series, let alone get to the playoffs, at any point.

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            • cards2WS

              14 years ago

              Touché

              Reply
      • Thomas Cassidy

        14 years ago

        Only the Phillies on that list make sense. Add Rangers, Yankees, Red Sox, Rays, and Tigers. Not the Cards, D-Backs, and no way in hell are the Brewers.

        Reply
        • cards2WS

          14 years ago

          Umm why can’t the Brewers, DBacks, or Cards make it?

          Reply
          • Thomas Cassidy

            14 years ago

            Because the Brewers suck first of all. They suck on the road, only good at home. They just lost Prince Fielder. DBacks play in a terrible divison, not a fantastic team. And the Cards just lost their best player, and got nothing back for it.

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            • CaseyBlakeDeWitt

              14 years ago

              Wow. In the first post he was simply referring to NL teams, and saying the Brewers suck is pretty ignorant. Sure, they were way better at home than on the road, but they still have a decent team. They haven’t lost Fielder yet, and they still have all the other parts from that team. As for the D-Backs, I think they’re pretty underrated. Sure they play in a poor division, but they’re a solid team all-around. There’s not really a weak point anywhere among them, not any stars other than Upton, but they have a lot of good players. And as for the Cards, they’ll be getting Waino back and sure, they lose Pujols, but that could be a good thing in the longrun.

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              • cards2WS

                14 years ago

                Exactly. Even though losing AP greatly diminished our offense, its still good. And people are undervaluing the effect of regaining an ace can do.

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                • CaseyBlakeDeWitt

                  14 years ago

                  I would be excited to get Wainwright back, but I’m not totally sure he’ll come back like he was before. I know many come back from TJ stronger and better, but you never know. If he does come back strong though, I expect the Cards could easily contend again in that division.

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                  • Phillies_Aces35

                    14 years ago

                    I think it’ll take him about half the season to really regain his cy young caliber form.

                    Reply
                    • cards2WS

                      14 years ago

                      I’ll gladly take his arm either way. If he posts a 3.20 era this year I’ll be happy.

                      Reply
            • cards2WS

              14 years ago

              Give MO some time. I see Beltran comin our way.

              Reply
              • CaseyBlakeDeWitt

                14 years ago

                That’s an interesting option. I would think most Cards fans would want Craig starting in right though at this point.

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                • Lunchbox45

                  14 years ago

                  I think they go hard after Fielder now.

                  Reply
                  • CaseyBlakeDeWitt

                    14 years ago

                    Wow that would be interesting. I’m curious to see how the fans will react to Pujols whenever he comes back to St. Louis next.

                    Reply
                    • cards2WS

                      14 years ago

                      Hopefully, a standing O. As hurt as I was earlier, I’ve moved on and realized Albert couldn’t pass up the offer. He’s been so great for us

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                  • cards2WS

                    14 years ago

                    I doubt it. The market has just blown up, and I think the Cards would prefer to go short term, preferably maxing out at two years in any deal. I say we wait till next off season and push for a center fielder (Bourn, Victorino, Hamilton). Assuming all those guys will be FA’s… Maybe go hard at Hamels, because Lohse and Westbrook and Berk will be coming off the books. Lots of cash comin next Offseason.

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                • cards2WS

                  14 years ago

                  Ya, but Craig is gonna be out for most, if not all, of April. He had knee surgery in November, and will be out 5-6 months. Beltran would cover that month, plus we’d just move Craig back to his super utility role. Then, after this year, you stick Craig at 1B and Beltran remains the RFer.

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                  • cards2WS

                    14 years ago

                    5-6 months starting in November I mean. He should be ready half way through may.

                    Reply
                  • CaseyBlakeDeWitt

                    14 years ago

                    Somehow I missed that he had surgery. I would still think he’s at least earned the opportunity to be a starter, at least until the trade deadline if he’s not working out.

                    Reply
            • Victor

              14 years ago

              You’re being foolish if you think the Cards can’t make the playoffs w/out Pujols. That is a deep team and management knows what their doing. BTW, they also got this little pitcher called Wainwright coming back. I think that should help. And I’m not even a Card’s fan.

              I’d put my money on the CArds making the playoffs before the Braves next season. 

              Reply
      • ludafish

        14 years ago

        The braves are not that good. No offense, hurt aging rotation, and fantastic but burnt out bullpen. Why does everyone put them in the elite category? the could easily not do so well next year. far from a sure thing. they are good and have potential but they are no lock. do not deserve to be with those great teams.

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        • TDKnies

          14 years ago

          uh… what?

          Reply
        • WonderboyRooney10

          14 years ago

          Shocking

          Reply
        • Sean Matrai

          14 years ago

          on the offense you may make a case,but as far as everything else your insane.The Braves have a line of excellent talented pitching, both in the starting rotation and the bullpen.Yes they have been injured but they are not aging as the way you put it.Even if they were aging they still have many top pitching prospects

          1.Arodys Vizciano
          2.Juilo Teheran
          3.Randall Delgado
          4.Mike Minor

          Who have yet to even hit their potential your out of your mind if you think they wont contend.Yes the offense has been poor which is a concerning factor in this strengthening NL East but they are in no way not Elite.Trust me they are an Elite ballclub with a great future ahead of them

          Reply
          • Victor

            14 years ago

             I love it when fans start placing their hopes of a Division title on a bunch of wet behind the ear “prospects”. Yeah. Ok. The Braves have the Division locked down w/ a bunch of  prospects.

            Reply
    • Serdar Sirin

      14 years ago

      Sure buddy…

      Reply
  3. baseball52

    14 years ago

    Underpants Gnome Model

    1. Sign Free Agents
    2. ???
    3. Profit

    Reply
  4. Thomas Cassidy

    14 years ago

    Wait, THE Nick Green? Uh oh. The Marlins are KILLING it! Can anyone say 162-0? I did love Nick Green when he was with the Yanks. Did a good job.

    Reply
  5. Diablo 2

    14 years ago

    I see these guys signing Prince and a lot other players..It isn’t going to work out either..Hanley is going to get super mad at Miami and bring the whole chem down.

    Reply
    • Serdar Sirin

      14 years ago

      What else can you see in your magic crystal ball?

      Reply
      • Diablo 2

        14 years ago

        LoL..I see a lot.Like i see that im about to like your post

        Reply
        • Serdar Sirin

          14 years ago

          Amazing! 🙂

          Reply
          • Diablo 2

            14 years ago

            Indeed 😉

            Reply
    • Thomas Cassidy

      14 years ago

      They need to trade him. No point in keeping a player that puts himself before his team. Ramirez for Gio, straight up.

      Reply
      • Serdar Sirin

        14 years ago

        Oakland wouldn’t do it IMO. They would most likely want a top prospect or 2 since Gio is still relatively cheap.

        I’m not worried about Hanley. Sure, he can be a baby. But he’s still a top talent when healthy and will put last season behind him. The biggest thing I see helping Hanley this season is Ozzie. 

        Reply
        • Sean Matrai

          14 years ago

          Agreed,they may also demand a second top prospect because he is a top of the rotation starter thats under comand until 2015, but you covered that already. Ive made one trade option for him in a 3 year deal between Yanks,Phills and A’s

          Yanks:get Hamels
          Phils:Get Gio
          A’s:Montero,Bentiaces,Mid Level

          Reply
        • Victor

          14 years ago

          Agree. I’m not worried about Hanley. If he decides to start tanking it, he is only hurting himself ling term. He had a down year last season. If he has two down seasons in a row, he is really damaging his future. 

          Reply
      • Diablo 2

        14 years ago

        I agree..and that wouldn’t be a good trade for A’s..If they would to trade Gio they would want 3 prospects so they can rebuild not just one guy..Who do Rays have at SS though? They can trade him to Rays for a pitcher since Rays are stacked with young pitchers

        Reply
        • Serdar Sirin

          14 years ago

          It would be a mistake to trade Hanley right now considering his value is junk after last season. He’ll be fine in Miami. He’ll get over what problem he may or may not have. What I have a problem though is Buster Olney reporting false information about Hanley wanting a trade after the Reyes signing. It was debunked by Hanley’s agent and the team immediately right after.

          Hanley probably isn’t thrilled about moving to 3B, but he’ll get over it. Ozzie will make sure of it.

          Reply
          • Diablo 2

            14 years ago

            Very true didn’t see it that way..I just wish Hanley and Miami the best..Well see how far they go

            Reply
          • Sean Matrai

            14 years ago

            Hanley has very little value now.As much as the Marlins have done I dont know just how many fans they are really going to drive to their park based on these signings. Reyes  is the only signigficant player who would drive up the Latino attendance at the new Marlins ballpark, Bell and Buerhle won’t do pee for that.The Marlins made good signings but lets not sugarcoat this

            Burhele is no more than a low number 2 in a strong division
            Bell is a good signing that will help them shutdown games.
            Reyes and Ramirez will be very good and almost deadly IF they can stay healthy.Notice I capitilized if.

            The Marlins have improved and that should be noted but they are not scaring the Phillies or Braves by what they have done.If anything they have just as a much of a chance of winning as do the Mets and Nationals.

            Reply
  6. Lunchbox45

    14 years ago

    Fielder should get atleast 200 million i think..

    My only prediction is that he ends up signing with a (current) non contender.

    I’m thinking the Mariners or Orioles land the big boy..

    I also think that Fielder will provide more value to his team, than Pujols will for the Angels  (over the course of the contract)

    Reply
  7. NYBravosFan10

    14 years ago

    Wow, Juan Carlos Oviedo or Leo Nunez or Sum Dum Gai or whatever his name is seems to be quite the winner…

    Reply
    • Guest 5755

      14 years ago

      I literally lol once you got to Sum Dum Gai

      Reply
  8. lefty177

    14 years ago

    with everyone saying Hanley is lazy, why don’t they move him to 2nd instead of 3rd? If he’s at second, he has more time to lazily throw the batter out at 1st than if he played 3rd, also he’d be 1 of the best hitting 2nd basement in baseball too

    Reply
  9. Wayne Bainbridge

    14 years ago

    will the real “Leo Nunez” please stand up….and the marlins will still only be third in the nl beast…..phillies,atlanta,nats/marlins fighting for third….put it in the bet book

    Reply
  10. Sean Matrai

    14 years ago

    For the Marlins it may be harder to trade for Gio simply because I think the A’s would want Stanton although if the Marlins do sign Fielder which isn’t out of the question they could swap Sanchez and Yellich or even Domineguez + a mid level to the A’s.

    Reply
  11. lolpods

    14 years ago

    ozzie needs to stay out of white sox business.

    Reply
    • JimBaily

      14 years ago

      Kenny needs to stay out of White Sox business…….
      But only if they ever want to win anything.

      Reply

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