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Cafardo On Rays, Lee, Fielder, Cubs, Eckstein

By Zachary Links | January 22, 2012 at 8:53am CDT

At Thursday's Baseball Writers Dinner, Red Sox GM Ben Cherington said that he felt good about his rotation heading into Spring Training, but admitted that the Yankees and Rays have fewer question marks in their respective rotations, writes Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe.  The GM might now have the payroll flexibility to bolster the starting five after sending Marco Scutaro to the Rockies for Clayton Mortensen last night.  Here's more from Cafardo..

  • After taking care of their first base vacancy, the Rays can now accelerate a deal for B.J. Upton to get a shortstop.  Currently, Sean Rodriguez is slated to play there over Reid Brignac.  Tampa Bay could also use an everyday catcher, with Jose Molina currently slated to start.
  • Astros first baseman Carlos Lee has to approve any deal because of his 10-5 rights, and hasn't been receptive to waiving those privileges in the past.  The veteran is scheduled to make $18.5MM, but the club has said that they are willing to eat half of it to get a deal done.  Cafardo thinks they'd cover even more of it to appeal to a team like the Tigers.
  • One AL East GM thinks that the Prince Fielder sweepstakes will come down to the Rangers and Nationals, with the Brewers and Cubs taking a shot if he settles for a one-year deal and elects to become a free agent again.
  • There has been talk that Victor Martinez’s injury could open the door for the Cubs to unload overpriced players such as Alfonso Soriano or Marlon Byrd, but Cafardo isn't buying it.
  • David Eckstein, who didn't play last season, has decided to retire even though there were teams willing to bring him into camp.  The 37-year-old hit .280/.345/.355 in his ten-year Major League career.
  • If the Orioles, Tigers, or Yankees don’t come through soon, Johnny Damon could be in a real bind as far as finding a job.  Cafardo opines that he would be a great fit in Detroit to replace the veteran leadership of Martinez.
  • With DH openings few and far between, Cafardo also wonders about the futures of Vladimir Guerrero, Hideki Matsui, Magglio Ordonez, Raul Ibanez, and J.D. Drew.
  • Cherington says that he won't consider bringing Drew back to Boston.  Recently, an National League GM told Cafardo that he believes that Drew can be a great bat off of the bench for an NL team.
  • Larry Lucchino won’t say whether he has re-upped with the Red Sox on a long-term deal, but Cafardo takes that as a yes.
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  1. Iconoclast17

    13 years ago

    If Damon’s not careful he’s going to wind up back in Oakland.

    Reply
    • Thomas Cassidy

      13 years ago

      Why sign Damon when you can sign Manny?!?!

      Reply
      • Richard Ellard

        13 years ago

        Thomas- REALLY? Maybe because Manny would have to serve a 50 game suspension first!

        Reply
        • Thomas Cassidy

          13 years ago

          It was a joke.

          Reply
        • Iconoclast17

          13 years ago

          Well, Beane could sign both. The A’s need a DH and BB usually grabs a veteran bat (very veteran) to fill that role: Thomas, Piazza, Matsui, Cust, for instance.

          Reply
          • Thomas Cassidy

            13 years ago

            Beane should control the pitching. When it comes to hitting, he has no clue.

            Reply
            • Iconoclast17

              13 years ago

              Sadly, true. And, when the A’s to get hold of a real hitter, Andre Eithier, Carlos Gonzalez—Beane quickly dispatches them.

              Beane’s very smart but he continues to overvalue the Derek Barton’s of the world. Coco Crisp is an exception to the walk rule, though, so maybe there’s hope.

              Reply
      • Richard Ellard

        13 years ago

        Thomas- REALLY? Maybe because Manny would have to serve a 50 game suspension first!

        Reply
  2. scott brecht

    13 years ago

    There is no reason the Cubs would sign Fielder on a 1 year deal.  This writer’s credibility is lost with that statement.  

    Reply
    • kräftig. entschieden

      13 years ago

      Not a writer, an “AL East GM”. But I agree, it wouldn’t make sense with the acquisition of Rizzo.

      Reply
      • scott brecht

        13 years ago

        Nick Cafardo wrote the article.  

        Reply
        • SumatranRatMonkey

          13 years ago

          Really confused as to what you’re thinking here.  Yeah Nick Cafardo wrote the article, but it’s not his opinion on Fielder, it’s what someone else said.  How is his credibility lost?

          Reply
    • kräftig. entschieden

      13 years ago

      Not a writer, an “AL East GM”. But I agree, it wouldn’t make sense with the acquisition of Rizzo.

      Reply
    • stewie75

      13 years ago

      i think it’d be a GOOD idea to sign him, cubs would give up what, a 2nd round pick in a draft where teams are restricted in spending? and if fielder has his usual first half, theo & jed could flip him for prospects further along with minor league scouting reports, meaning the bust factor would be lower and they’d be ready for the majors sooner. and all it’d cost is a 1 year deal? what’s the downside here?

      Reply
  3. Martin M.

    13 years ago

    Fielder should become a Blue Jay. That would be great.

    Reply
  4. Zachary Eick

    13 years ago

    As much as I don’t like to say this stuff, Maggs, Ibanez, Drew, and Vlad look to be unemployed next year unless they take pay cuts/part time jobs. Damon has his shot still and Matsui is probably the biggest threat out there just because he attracts the Asian crowds. However Detroit wants Cepedes and will probably go with an in-house candidate over the FA market.

    Reply
  5. Zachary Eick

    13 years ago

    As much as I don’t like to say this stuff, Maggs, Ibanez, Drew, and Vlad look to be unemployed next year unless they take pay cuts/part time jobs. Damon has his shot still and Matsui is probably the biggest threat out there just because he attracts the Asian crowds. However Detroit wants Cepedes and will probably go with an in-house candidate over the FA market.

    Reply
    • Ira

      13 years ago

      I agree. Matsui is still a threat at the plate. the yankees need a left-handed bat (to platoon with Andrew Jones), he is still seen as a WS-hero in NY, and he can help Kuroda transition to a new league/clubhouse. he will be cheap to sign and the fans still love him!

      Reply
  6. CandyMaldonadoLand

    13 years ago

    I wouldn’t go so far as to call Marlon Byrd overpriced. John Lackey, on the other hand…

    Reply
  7. rockfordone

    13 years ago

    Blockbuster – Rays send Upton, Moore, Lee and Brignac to White Sox for ARam and AJ Pierz

    Reply
    • Thomas Cassidy

      13 years ago

      You smoke a lot of weed?

      Reply
      • stewie75

        13 years ago

        *crack

        Reply
    • Stuart Brown

      13 years ago

      I hope you’re not serious. That’s a horrible, horrible trade for the Rays.

      Reply
      • sam agsar

        13 years ago

        I think the Rays might have to throw in Price, Longo, Shields and a couple more prospects to even this trade out.

        Reply
        • Thomas Cassidy

          13 years ago

          No way. Throw in Dunn or Rios, and then the White Sox MIGHT do that.

          Reply
        • scott brecht

          13 years ago

          i really hope you are being sarcastic

          Reply
          • diesel2410

            13 years ago

            Obviously…

            Reply
        • scott brecht

          13 years ago

          i really hope you are being sarcastic

          Reply
    • Stuart Brown

      13 years ago

      I hope you’re not serious. That’s a horrible, horrible trade for the Rays.

      Reply
    • dylanp5030

      13 years ago

      Yeah, Moore is one of the most valuable rookies right now. He’s not going anywhere.

      Reply
    • diesel2410

      13 years ago

      The mental hospital is just down the road. Please keep right

      Reply
  8. RICHARD

    13 years ago

    Eckstein, you will always be remembered for your stance and that World Series MVP award.

    Reply
  9. Joseph Kraus

    13 years ago

    Upton for a SS? Hmm…..who matches up?

    I personally thought the RFO was set with Upton in CF going forward.

    Reply
    • Thomas Cassidy

      13 years ago

      inb4 Ian Desmond. There aren’t that many short stops available worth Upton, even though he’s been a bust. 

      Reply
    • Thomas Cassidy

      13 years ago

      What about JJ Hardy though? He’s 30 years old and the Orioles won’t compete for years and years. Upton has some upside. And they have some money, so if they can’t resign him they can always trade him for a couple of prospects.

      Reply
      • stl_cards16

        13 years ago

        Upton is a free agent after this year, Hardy just signed an extension. How does this make any sense?

        Reply
        • Thomas Cassidy

          13 years ago

          Ah, I forgot all about that extension.

          Reply
      • Aaron Haker

        13 years ago

        Do you seriously think Hardy for Upton is even remotely fair for the Rays, or that it makes sense at all for them?

        Reply
        • Thomas Cassidy

          13 years ago

          I think if the Rays could get Hardy for Upton, they wouldn’t think twice.

          Reply
        • diesel2410

          13 years ago

          I would absolutely swap Upton for Hardy. He brings tremendous power to the lineup and fills the SS hole. It’s very unlikely though because it doesn’t make sense for Baltimore

          Reply
  10. Blue_Bomb

    13 years ago

    If they trade for an SS, is S-Rod still a starter? He’s my fantasy 2B 🙁

    Reply
    • tigers22

      13 years ago

      that’s unfortunate. 

      Reply
      • Blue_Bomb

        13 years ago

        Well I drafted him in one of the last few rounds of a 16-team league, so i’m sure I can find or trade for someone else if need be.

        Reply
    • diesel2410

      13 years ago

      Then your team must suck

      Reply
  11. User 4245925809

    13 years ago

    The idea of JD Drew as a DH is one of the most outlandish and never going to happen of the many Cafardo always writes about every week.

    Drew cannot even hit anymore..Big **IF** he manages to find a job, if will be because he can play a still decent RF with a good arm and not because he can hit. His bat deserted him 2 years ago and has long since been MIA.

    Reply
  12. sourbob

    13 years ago

    Marlon Byrd’s 2011 value, according to Fangraphs: $9.1MM.
    Marlon Byrd’s average value, last 5 yrs, Fangraphs: $11.5 MM.
    Marlon Byrd’s 2012 salary, 2012: $6.5MM.

    How is that overpriced?

    The Cubs have some serious dead weight to unload, but Byrd is a guy they can deal while rightly insisting his contract has surplus value.

    Reply
    • scott brecht

      13 years ago

      i expect him to have a better year this year than last.  he never looked comfortable after coming back from getting beaned in the face.  

      Reply
      • 101andcounting

        13 years ago

        I also heard that he dropped forty pounds this offseason by doing Muay Thai. He could come out the gates pretty hot this year.

        Reply
    • KyleB

      13 years ago

      I loved Marlon when he was here in Texas with the Rangers. I was dissapointed that we couldn’t pay him. He’s a great guy and a really good/underrated player.

      Reply
  13. Patrick Relano Kim

    13 years ago

    I don’t buy Upton getting traded at this point.  His value to other teams would be pretty low while Rays would value him higher.  If Upton continues to produce the way he has been doing for last couple of years, he would elect FA after turning down arb. offer.  

    Possibly meaning two 1st round picks for compensation.  There is also a possibility Upton finally having some breakout year due to his first FA year and with the slash line he had after August, .333/.432/.606 in last 26 games.

    I don’t think there is any viable SS option in market who projects to be better than S-Rod neither.

    Reply
    • javywoz

      13 years ago

      I think this is pretty dead on.  Any SS who might be available (outside of HanRam) is a minimal upgrade to SRod, and that improvement would pretty much be completely negated from the dropoff of BJ to a Fuld/Guyer platoon. 

      Reply
      • IndianaBob

        13 years ago

        Desmond Jennings will play CF if Upton is traded.  They could try to upgrade with youth at SS/1B/corner OF/C in return for Upton.

        Reply
  14. diehardmets

    13 years ago

    If I’m the Rays, I would keep Upton for now and let Sean Rod start at SS. He has had some gaudy minor league numbers and perhaps he can tap into them to some degree. If not, Beckham and/or Lee should be ready for the majors soon. As for C, Chirinos or the lesser known Stephen Vogt could start there with Molina as back up and probably produce acceptable offensive numbers.

    Reply
    • IndianaBob

      13 years ago

      Sean only hits lefties (.377 lefties vs .259 righties wOBA).  Brignac does not hit anyone.  They really need a SS that is decent against righties.

      Reply
  15. Vote4DougWilson

    13 years ago

    I could live with
    Jackson (cf) Damon (dh) Boesch (rf) Cabrera (1b) Avila (c) Delmon (lf) Peralta (ss) Inge/Kelly (3b) Santiago (2b)

    Reply
    • Garrett Gottschalk

      13 years ago

      Avila is not batting 5th. 

      Reply
    • Zachary Eick

      13 years ago

      I would much rather have Delmon DH and sign a LF. Hello Andy Dirks :p !

      Reply
  16. Holden Clark

    13 years ago

    Block Buster: Geo Soto, Darwin Barney, Brett Jackson for Upton and Shields

    Reply
    • Thomas Cassidy

      13 years ago

      Throw in the other 22 players on the Cubs and the Rays will wait a couple of extra seconds before they hang up the phone.

      Reply
    • chrisenvy

      13 years ago

      I can’t imagine the Rays doing that.

      Reply
    • chrisenvy

      13 years ago

      I can’t imagine the Rays doing that.

      Reply
  17. Dynasty22

    13 years ago

    If I were the Rays, I would try B.J at the number 2 slot before I would trade him. He seemed to do well there during the final two months.

    Reply
    • javywoz

      13 years ago

      This, Upton had a 1.000+ OPS batting 2nd towards the end of the year. 

      Reply
  18. TheSportingHippeaux

    13 years ago

    Not that this changes the fact that Tampa Bay could use a catcher, but I’m fairly certain that, if they started the season with this roster, they’d use Jose Lobaton in platoon with Molina (at least, and probably as the primary backstop). Lobatan put up big numbers in a half-season at AAA last year and got several starts during the stretch drive. I don’t think he’s a long-term solution, but certainly has more upside than 37-year-old Jose, who has never been a #1 option anywhere. 

    Reply
  19. Miles

    13 years ago

    I was thinking the M’s could ship Olivo and Ryan to Tampa for a bag of oranges. Then I remembered, it said the Rays needed a catcher.

    The M’s will sign Fielder. Have you heard anything from the M’s? That’s the way it always is with Zduriencik.

    Reply
  20. Patrick Relano Kim

    13 years ago

    JJ Hardy for Niemann, Beckham(SS prospect), Dietrich(SS/3B prospect) ?

    Reply
  21. H E I N Z

    13 years ago

    Blue Jays will sweep in for Fielder once most of the offers from other teams are official and the Jays will pull something off.

    okay im dreaming but thats what i would do like the Angels did. 

    Reply
  22. rfffr

    13 years ago

    Didn’t Eckstein donate a kidney? Can he still play after that?

    Reply
    • Thomas Cassidy

      13 years ago

      I don’t see why you can’t. John Kruk had one ball.

      Reply
  23. BlueCatuli

    13 years ago

    Marlo Byrd is overpriced?

    Reply
  24. owlssc

    13 years ago

    Ibanez might be a good fit for Detroit if they’re willing to go to the FA market. Possibly 2 years, $20-24 Million?

    Reply
    • Thomas Cassidy

      13 years ago

      If Ibanez gets that kind of deal then I should be able to make 3M.

      Reply
    • Thomas Cassidy

      13 years ago

      A 1/3.

      Reply
  25. Ashley

    13 years ago

    I thought J.D. Drew was supposed to be retiring? For that matter, does anyone retire anymore? They just seem to fade away. 

    Reply
    • Thomas Cassidy

      13 years ago

      The big players do. The other small players “retire,” also known as “I can’t find a job.”

      Reply
      • Ashley

        13 years ago

        Unless it’s guys like Manny, Vlad and Wakefield who are just stat-chasers. These guys would take $12 an hour from the Astros for the love of statistics.

        Reply
        • 101andcounting

          13 years ago

          It might also be because, you know, they’re professional baseball players. It’s their livelihood; it’s all they’ve ever known; it’s what they’re better at than anything else in the world, and they’re better at it than 99.99% of the world’s population. If I’m Vladimir Guerrero, I’m gonna swing a bat till my arms fall off.

          For the love of the game.

          /rant 

          Reply
  26. Chris Perry

    13 years ago

    Carlos Lee waived his 10-5 rights when he signed his contract, in favor of a limited no-trade clause that takes place this season.  So the Astros can trade him to any of the teams he said he would allow without his consent.

    Reply
    • Hal_Jordan77

      13 years ago

      Reportedly, most AL teams are on Lee’s no-trade list because he doesn’t want to DH.

      Reply
      • tony mengden

        13 years ago

        I read that the Indians, Twins and Tigers are not on his No trade list though, since they are all Central teams.

        Reply
  27. jesse heiman

    13 years ago

    Bj upton to nats for Espinosa or to Astros in package for Angel Sanchez and Catcher Q

    Reply
    • Chris Perry

      13 years ago

      The Astros would take that offer 10 times out of 10.  Why do you want Sanchez and Q?  They’re terrible.

      Reply
  28. jesse heiman

    13 years ago

    Danny Espinoza to the rays for Upton he had 21 hrs last yr

    Reply
  29. Nate

    13 years ago

    Andrew McCutchen from Pit to TB for:  BJ Upton, Tim Beckham, Hak Ju Lee, Alex Colome

    Reply
  30. mgsports

    13 years ago

    BJ Upton back to SS or sign Edgar Renteria.

    Reply
    • GriffeyandSizemore

      13 years ago

      Your back in 2004 i see.

      Reply
  31. mgsports

    13 years ago

    Bring back Bartlett or Trade for Hudson and put Zobrist at SS.

    Reply
  32. Logjammer D"Baggagecling

    13 years ago

    Why is Marlon Byrd over priced? He makes like5 mil a yrs. compared to Soriano’s 18mil a yrs. Byrd is a good clubhouse guy I’d keep him and trade Soriano and 90% of his contract for a Single A player from Detroit.

    Reply

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